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True it is dated material but my guess is you did not know it.
I thought you would like some military stuff.
Enclosed is to show you how Independent Media and Libertarians agree.
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The Myth of a Maverick : Matt Welch on GOP Frontrunner John McCain February 04, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/yrk7c8
Ahead of Super Tuesday, Senator John McCain is leading Republican polls, a significant comeback for a campaign that appeared expired just six months ago. We speak to Reason Magazine editor Matt Welch, author of McCain: The Myth of a Maverick.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/4/the_myth...
High Energy Laser Weapon Systems Applications
June 2001 /
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/ADA394880....

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The Creation and Dissemination of All Forms of Information in Support
of Psychological Operations (PSYOP) in Time of Military Conflict
May 2000 /
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/ADA382535....

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Poppo,
Barack OBama's Prism program of targeting and spying on every American citizen is both morally and ethically wrong.
You can forfeit your right to privacy if that makes you happy, but I will not willingly give up mine.
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What to do with Republican "conservatives"? Stand by and watch as they self-destruct.
Thanks for putting that in quotes. The only thing "conservative" about these morons is their attire for a Sunday morning "appearance"

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If you want to move forward, you must have both oars in the water.
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Barack OBama's Prism program of targeting and spying on every American citizen is both morally and ethically wrong.
You can forfeit your right to privacy if that makes you happy, but I will not willingly give up mine.
The program started up again with Bush and Cheney.

Back in the day Hoover made it into an art form.

Even President Nixon was terrified of him.

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Hoover Planned Mass Jailing in 1950
December 23, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/26s5jy
A newly declassified document shows that J. Edgar Hoover, the longtime director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, had a plan to suspend habeas corpus and imprison some 12,000 Americans he suspected of disloyalty.
Hoover sent his plan to the White House on July 7, 1950, 12 days after the Korean War began. It envisioned putting suspect Americans in military prisons.
Hoover wanted President Harry S. Truman to proclaim the mass arrests necessary to “protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage.” The F.B.I would “apprehend all individuals potentially dangerous” to national security, Hoover’s proposal said. The arrests would be carried out under “a master warrant attached to a list of names” provided by the bureau.
The names were part of an index that Hoover had been compiling for years.“The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven per cent are citizens of the United States,” he wrote.
“In order to make effective these apprehensions, the proclamation suspends the Writ of Habeas Corpus,” it said.
Habeas corpus, the right to seek relief from illegal detention, has been a fundamental principle of law for seven centuries. The Bush administration’s decision to hold suspects for years at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, has made habeas corpus a contentious issue for Congress and the Supreme Court today.
The Constitution says habeas corpus shall not be suspended “unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it.” The plan proposed by Hoover, the head of the F.B.I. from 1924 to 1972, stretched that clause to include “threatened invasion” or “attack upon United States troops in legally occupied territory.”
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Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say
http://tinyurl.com/n882x / June 30, 2006
June 30 (Bloomberg)-- The U.S. National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New York federal court.
The allegation is part of a court filing adding AT&T, the nation's largest telephone company, as a defendant in a breach of privacy case filed earlier this month on behalf of Verizon Communications Inc. and BellSouth Corp. customers. The suit alleges that the three carriers, the NSA and President George W. Bush violated the Telecommunications Act of 1934 and the U.S. Constitution, and seeks money damages.
``The Bush Administration asserted this became necessary after 9/11,'' plaintiff's lawyer Carl Mayer said in a telephone interview.``This undermines that assertion.''
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Barack Obama is illegally following your electronic footprints.
loose
I know Loose! I downloaded the White House app during the campaign so he could keep in touch. Now it sends a daily rundown of the president’s activities so I can know what he’s doing as well. LOL……

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What to do with Republican "conservatives"? Stand by and watch as they self-destruct.
They say the black usurper has taken away their free-dumbz. I for one can’t where this is the case…..LOL
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Chris Matthews: We Are All Neo-Cons Now.

So Wrong for So Long: Greg Mitchell on How the Press, the Pundits—and the President—Failed on Iraq / March 24, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/2bouue
As the Iraq war passes its fifth anniversary, we take a look at the corporate media’s coverage of five years of war with Greg Mitchell, editor of Editor & Publisher. He has just written a new book chronicling the media’s failing on covering Iraq titled, So Wrong for So Long: How the Press, the Pundits—and the President—Failed on Iraq.
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Chris Matthews is a centrist corporate Democrat
http://tinyurl.com/36gq4c / December 18, 2007
Matthews to an MSNBC colleague, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer magazine.
Matthews made 10 positive remarks about Hillary Clinton in the past three months, most of which were evaluations of her campaign performance. But six of these 10 remarks also contained some criticism, as when he said, "She has been charming but cold and absolutely flawless," or when he described a debate as "a highly scripted, brilliant performance by Hillary Clinton." Others -- for instance, his praise of Clinton's success in getting support from "every interest area in the Democratic Party" -- could also plausibly be interpreted as backhanded compliments.
Matthews made 82 negative remarks about Clinton during this period. They cover a wide range of topics, but most have to do with character issues -- that Clinton is overly calculating, disingenuous, or unethical.
Matthews made 28 positive remarks about Rudy Giuliani, most concerning how much of a leader and how tough Giuliani is.
Matthews made eight negative remarks about Giuliani, most about his stance on immigration. http://mediamatters.org/items/200712180005...

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If you want to move forward, you must have both oars in the water.
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Not if you’re sailing, canoeing or motor boating. LOL
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Z was called a white Hispanic because 99% of the population would know what it meant. Apparently Rouge is part of the 1%.
I've never heard of anyone referred to as a whitle hispanic. I've never heard of a white black either! You're really reaching. Must be bored as heck, huh? Hey, how's that rolling total looking? Going shopping today? LMAO!
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MLK was a community organizer my friend so if you’re still dumbfounded by what they do or the skill set it takes to be an effective organizer then I can’t help you.
OBAMA WAS ALWAYS OUT OF ROMNEY'S LEAGUE
“The day after the election, CNN headlined, November 7th,“Analysis: Why Romney Lost,” and Peter Hamby wrote that Republican operatives from around the country expressed awe at the skillfulness of the Obama campaign organization, and they admitted to have been shockingly outclassed”
“Mitt Romney, who had claimed, throughout his campaign, that Barack Obama possessed no executive experience and was “just a community organizer,” and who had bragged constantly about what a great CEO he, Romney, was, turned out to be instead a CEO dwarf next to the gigantic Obama”
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-was-alwa...
Ignoring the fact that Obama was a civil rights attorney, constitutional law professor, author, 3 term state senator and one term US senator makes your argument a little suspect as well.
LMAO! Out-classed? At least Romney can speak without a TELEPROMPTER. Obumbler isn't qualified to shine Romney's shoes. Obumbler is a garden variety con man. Nothing else! Just look at his great accomplishments! LMAO! Enough of this "Obumbler is great" crap. He is an epic failure, known to lie and put up fraudulent BCs. He should have been impeached a long time ago. That brain of yours (if you ever had one) has turned to complete mush. Go get another rock.
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Wonder how long it took Obumbler to come up with the idea of a "fake" terrorist plot being foiled? You do realize he is just trying to save face, right? I'm throwing a flag on this one, a fifteen yarder too, for unnecessary BS! How could a decimated and "on the run" Al Qaeda be responsible for this plot? LMAO! Someone is being fed a lied and I know who is gulping it down. LMAO! Fools.
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LMAO! Out-classed? At least Romney can speak without a TELEPROMPTER. Obumbler isn't qualified to shine Romney's shoes. Obumbler is a garden variety con man. Nothing else! Just look at his great accomplishments! LMAO! Enough of this "Obumbler is great" crap. He is an epic failure, known to lie and put up fraudulent BCs. He should have been impeached a long time ago. That brain of yours (if you ever had one) has turned to complete mush. Go get another rock.
Re: "fraudulent BCs"

Only birther “experts” have called Obama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

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Wonder how long it took Obumbler to come up with the idea of a "fake" terrorist plot being foiled? You do realize he is just trying to save face, right? I'm throwing a flag on this one, a fifteen yarder too, for unnecessary BS! How could a decimated and "on the run" Al Qaeda be responsible for this plot? LMAO! Someone is being fed a lied and I know who is gulping it down. LMAO! Fools.
Maybe Obama's republican predecessors should've had "fake" terrorist plots prior to Beirut barracks bombing, East African embassy bombings , 9/11 etc.

Win-win situation for you, LRS. Always. For example, and jsutr as an aside, Obama loses pres. election, WTG winner Romney, it's all good. But, Obama wins,(breaking news : he did) it's fraud. In this case, Obama calls emergency, closes missions, and to you, it's a "fake" terrorist plot. But let's say he doesn't act, and U.S. is attacked, it's another Benghazi, and I can hear you and birthers cry : "why didn't he trigger an emergency a he knew of a terrorist plot and close missions?". Loser oracle and Monday morning QB Justice ha ha LRS.
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Maybe Obama's republican predecessors should've had "fake" terrorist plots prior to Beirut barracks bombing, East African embassy bombings , 9/11 etc.
Win-win situation for you, LRS. Always. For example, and jsutr as an aside, Obama loses pres. election, WTG winner Romney, it's all good. But, Obama wins,(breaking news : he did) it's fraud. In this case, Obama calls emergency, closes missions, and to you, it's a "fake" terrorist plot. But let's say he doesn't act, and U.S. is attacked, it's another Benghazi, and I can hear you and birthers cry : "why didn't he trigger an emergency a he knew of a terrorist plot and close missions?". Loser oracle and Monday morning QB Justice ha ha LRS.
At least you can see the difference between "real" and "fake"! Thanks for agreeing. I think it's nothing more than an attempt to save face. And that just drives you nuts, doesn't it? Maybe, just maybe, one or all of our people in Libya knew about the gun-running to Syria. Why, something like that would call for drastic measures! Know what I mean, Path?

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LMAO! Out-classed? At least Romney can speak without a TELEPROMPTER. Obumbler isn't qualified to shine Romney's shoes. Obumbler is a garden variety con man. Nothing else! Just look at his great accomplishments! LMAO! Enough of this "Obumbler is great" crap. He is an epic failure, known to lie and put up fraudulent BCs. He should have been impeached a long time ago. That brain of yours (if you ever had one) has turned to complete mush. Go get another rock.
The proof is there for all to see Mr. Liars. Obama is president, Romney is not. Your feelings and opinion of course notwithstanding.

There’s more! LOL

“Mitt Romney was massively incompetent as the CEO of a large and complex organization. He surrounded himself with sycophants, to such an extent he had no idea of any problems in his own organization. He was just a repeat of George W. Bush. Both were typical aristocrats.

It turned out that the braggart CEO Romney, lied just as much about his executive skills as he did about most other things. Obama had won political victories not only because he was the best political campaigner in modern times, but also because he hired the best people in the country to run his campaigns. Obama was a crushing opponent, a great manager of a large organization.

Romney wasn’t in Obama’s league, and never had been. Romney was just a well-trained buyer, stripper, and seller, of corporations, who knew how to game the system so as to rip off workers and business competitors, and how to play governments off against each other so as to evade taxes legally and leave the public everywhere holding the bags after everything was stripped by this predator”
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-was-alwa...
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At least you can see the difference between "real" and "fake"! Thanks for agreeing. I think it's nothing more than an attempt to save face. And that just drives you nuts, doesn't it? Maybe, just maybe, one or all of our people in Libya knew about the gun-running to Syria. Why, something like that would call for drastic measures! Know what I mean, Path?
Very wise of you not to reply! LMAO!

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The proof is there for all to see Mr. Liars. Obama is president, Romney is not. Your feelings and opinion of course notwithstanding.
There’s more! LOL
“Mitt Romney was massively incompetent as the CEO of a large and complex organization. He surrounded himself with sycophants, to such an extent he had no idea of any problems in his own organization. He was just a repeat of George W. Bush. Both were typical aristocrats.
It turned out that the braggart CEO Romney, lied just as much about his executive skills as he did about most other things. Obama had won political victories not only because he was the best political campaigner in modern times, but also because he hired the best people in the country to run his campaigns. Obama was a crushing opponent, a great manager of a large organization.
Romney wasn’t in Obama’s league, and never had been. Romney was just a well-trained buyer, stripper, and seller, of corporations, who knew how to game the system so as to rip off workers and business competitors, and how to play governments off against each other so as to evade taxes legally and leave the public everywhere holding the bags after everything was stripped by this predator”
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-was-alwa...
Great reply, Poppo

Wonder what Justice ha ha LRS prioritizes :

Romney, a failed presidential candidate who speaks without a teleprompter?

OR

Obama, a successful presidential candidate who speaks with teleprompters?

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Very wise of you not to reply! LMAO!
Difference between "real" and "fake"? Do YOU know the meaning of the word "sarcasm"? Obviously not. Clue : is why no reply.

As to gun-running, poor loser, there are at least 15 countries in the ME running guns to various countries, groups and terrorists. DOH! Short of dropping H-bombs on those countries and groups, how would you propose stopping it?

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Difference between "real" and "fake"? Do YOU know the meaning of the word "sarcasm"? Obviously not. Clue : is why no reply.
As to gun-running, poor loser, there are at least 15 countries in the ME running guns to various countries, groups and terrorists. DOH! Short of dropping H-bombs on those countries and groups, how would you propose stopping it?
P.S.: Oh, in prior republican administrations , there were neither "fake" OR "real" warnings before Beirut barracks bombing, East African embassy bombings and 9/11. Oh oh.

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