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check world nut daily, think Romney won and the south won the Civil War?
They're also pretty certain that the Cubs won the last 5 World Series.

When, to birthers, 0-209 represents a winning score, then one has to consider many possibilities.

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What a hoot. Politico does an article about Obama Care and the picture shows ONE volunteer phone operator!!! Yep, the bloom is off the rose!
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Obamacare message war goes local

By KYLE CHENEY | 8/4/13 4:59 PM EDT Updated: 8/5/13 7:06 AM EDT
CENTREVILLE, Va.— A race to define Obamacare to the masses began today between the stacks at the Centreville Library. Over pizza in Decatur, Texas. And with a glass of wine in Naples, Fla.

Dozens of communities around the country hosted pro-Obamacare events, convened by the president’s foot soldiers at Organizing for Action. The series is the first salvo in what is fixing to be a month of high-stakes health care spin. When Congress returns from its summer recess in early September, there will be less than a month until Obamacare’s most sweeping coverage programs start signing up customers in new health insurance exchanges.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/obamaca...

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<quoted text>If Obama's father was a United States Citizen,Hilary Clinton never would have been able to use this controversy to try to win the primary.
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Er, is it my imagination or did Obama not win the primary? Er, he also won the presidency. ONCE. TWICE. And, not unlike Clinton, would win it a third time were he allowed to run. She DIDN'T win the primary, Frank.
Typical Libtardian Logic. He won the election, ergo he is a lawful president.
Did you say that about G.W. Bush too?!?

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Rouge read this
Fifty years after the crisis, Graham Allison wrote:
Fifty years ago, the Cuban missile crisis brought the world to the brink of nuclear disaster. During the standoff, U.S. President John F. Kennedy thought the chance of escalation to war was "between 1 in 3 and even," and what we have learned in later decades has done nothing to lengthen those odds. We now know, for example, that in addition to nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, the Soviet Union had deployed 100 tactical nuclear weapons to Cuba, and the local Soviet commander there could have launched these weapons without additional codes or commands from Moscow. The U.S. air strike and invasion that were scheduled for the third week of the confrontation would likely have triggered a nuclear response against American ships and troops, and perhaps even Miami. The resulting war might have led to the deaths of 100 million Americans and over 100 million Russians
Allison, Graham; Zelikow, Philip (1999). Essence of Decision, Explaining the Cuban Missile Crisis. New York: Addison Wesley Longman. ISBN 0-321-01349-2.
I notice you dodged all of the other issues but I will address your one point. Just like the United States, the Soviets had a protocol for launch of "special munitions". In the case for an American "Boomer" they have the Two-Man-Rule where they both must confirm and agree. The captain of a Boomer can not by himself launch his missiles and likewise the Soviet commander must be in agreement with the Political Officer.
Every military unit in the Soviet Union had a KGB Political Officer who could countermand any order by the unit commander to launch their weapons!!!
Oh yea of no experience in these matters thing you know everything.
Oh, you still have not explained why we did not need the Skybolt and then went ahead under Reagan to develop the next generation of cruise missiles which we are still using to this day?!?
And can you explain why the removed the Hound Dogs from service in .... 1978 (under ... Jimmy "The Peanut Man" Carter)
From Wiki: On September 22, 1966, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara recommended retiring all of the remaining Hound Dog missiles, within a few years. The Hound Dogs would be retained pending the outcome of the Terrain Contour Matching (TERCOM) guidance system development program. Secretary McNamara's recommendation was not acted upon, and the Hound Dog remained in service [1]

After thirteen years of service with the Air Force, the last Hound Dog missile was removed from alert deployment on June 30, 1975. The Hound Dog missiles were kept in dead storage for a number of years. The last Hound Dog was retired for scrapping on June 15, 1978, from the 42nd Bomb Wing at Loring Air Force Base, Maine.

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What a hoot. Politico does an article about Obama Care and the picture shows ONE volunteer phone operator!!! Yep, the bloom is off the rose!
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(idiomatic, business, economics) Business is not going well for a particular identified firm or industry, or the overall economy has taken a downturn.
Obamacare message war goes local
By KYLE CHENEY | 8/4/13 4:59 PM EDT Updated: 8/5/13 7:06 AM EDT
CENTREVILLE, Va.— A race to define Obamacare to the masses began today between the stacks at the Centreville Library. Over pizza in Decatur, Texas. And with a glass of wine in Naples, Fla.
Dozens of communities around the country hosted pro-Obamacare events, convened by the president’s foot soldiers at Organizing for Action. The series is the first salvo in what is fixing to be a month of high-stakes health care spin. When Congress returns from its summer recess in early September, there will be less than a month until Obamacare’s most sweeping coverage programs start signing up customers in new health insurance exchanges.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/obamaca...
The OECD comprises 34 countries

Of those 34 countries, 33 have universal health care

The U.S. is the only holdout

Do you ever wonder, Rogue, in those 33 countries where you have progressives, liberals, socialists, communists, fascists, yes, fascists, conservatives, ultra right wingers, libertarians, and an extremely diverse electorate, not one party, not one voter, no group has ever fought for the dismantlement of universal health care, in spite of the current difficult period they are traversing. Any idea why that is?

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<quoted text>If Obama's father was a United States Citizen,Hilary Clinton never would have been able to use this controversy to try to win the primary.
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Typical Libtardian Logic. He won the election, ergo he is a lawful president.
Did you say that about G.W. Bush too?!?
1. You did not follow the discussion or else your reading skills have further eroded. Your buddy Frank wrote that Hillary Clinton won the primary. Try againč

2. G.W. Bush, it is proven, lost both the electoral college and the popular vote AND Florida. Seems his 2nd elections was legitimate.

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Reagan to the rescue .... again!!!!

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In 1983 General Dynamics Convair Division (GD/C) was awarded a development contract for the AGM-129A.

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Rouge read this
Fifty years after the crisis, Graham Allison wrote:
Fifty years ago, the Cuban missile crisis brought the world to the brink of nuclear disaster. During the standoff, U.S. President John F. Kennedy thought the chance of escalation to war was "between 1 in 3 and even," and what we have learned in later decades has done nothing to lengthen those odds. We now know, for example, that in addition to nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, the Soviet Union had deployed 100 tactical nuclear weapons to Cuba, and the local Soviet commander there could have launched these weapons without additional codes or commands from Moscow. The U.S. air strike and invasion that were scheduled for the third week of the confrontation would likely have triggered a nuclear response against American ships and troops, and perhaps even Miami. The resulting war might have led to the deaths of 100 million Americans and over 100 million Russians
Allison, Graham; Zelikow, Philip (1999). Essence of Decision, Explaining the Cuban Missile Crisis. New York: Addison Wesley Longman. ISBN 0-321-01349-2.
Here is your loony lefty academic again trying to be relevant. And we all know that Obama has his head up his azz over this issue.

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GRAHAM ALLISON AUG 1 2013, 9:00 AM ET

That Iran's nuclear challenge poses the most urgent threat to peace and security today is widely agreed across the national security community, and many argue that 2013 will be the decisive year for this issue. As former Mossad head Ephraim Halevy notes, Israel "has long believed that mid-2013 would be an hour of decision in its dealings with Iran." Henry Kissinger has recently warned that "we are in the last year where you can say a negotiation can conceivably succeed.... If nothing happens, the president will have to make some really tough decisions."

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Dunce, Obama was born in Kenya and his mother was not old enough to bestow her American citizenship on him!
That is why he was born a British citizen by his own admission.
Dismissed, NEXT!
There is NOTHING more nutty than the "born in Kenya" story. Did you know that only 63 people went from the USA to Kenya in 1961, and every single one of them went by SHIP?(And, did you know that there were no regularly scheduled ships from Kenya to Hawaii?) And, did you know that only 21 people came from Kenya to the USA in 1961, and that all but one of them came by ship, and that one was---wait for it---NOT a US citizen?

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

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The OECD comprises 34 countries
Of those 34 countries, 33 have universal health care
The U.S. is the only holdout
Do you ever wonder, Rogue, in those 33 countries where you have progressives, liberals, socialists, communists, fascists, yes, fascists, conservatives, ultra right wingers, libertarians, and an extremely diverse electorate, not one party, not one voter, no group has ever fought for the dismantlement of universal health care, in spite of the current difficult period they are traversing. Any idea why that is?
Because they are f-ing stupid. Anyone with half a brain knows that "the current difficult period they are traversing" will be .... forever!!!
We Americans are smarter than that and will will over turn ObamaCare!

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‘HEY OBAMA, YOU ARE STUPID, BAD MAN’: VIRAL EGYPTIAN MUSIC VIDEO ACCUSES OBAMA OF SUPPORTING TERRORISM, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/05/he...
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You agreed with the invasion? No second thoughts? Do you then agree that both the United States AND Iraq are now better off because of the invasion? Do you agree that where there were no Al Qaeda and Taliban in Iraq under Saddam, they are now there in force. Do you agree that Iraq was a tactical buffer state to Iran and now, today, Iranians are in Baghdad. Do you agree that what Jews there were in Iraq under Saddam have now all left, as have most Catholics under persecution both of them, though they lived freely under Saddam? Do you agree that there are more daily violent deaths in Iraq today than Saddam the butcher could ever have dreamed of? Do you agree that the US , the "saviour" of Iraq, at great costs, is getting the shaft oil-wise? Do you agree that Iraq has become the world's second biggest oil exporter, with not a cent going into reparations to the US? Much more, but best you chew on that and come back with profanity and ad hominem, not able to rebut one single of the above points. And, hey, you agreed with the invasion? You're in the minority, you must surely know that.
Yes. Yes. Yes. No, I believe Al Qaeda had a presence in Iraq before the invasion. No, because Saddam was too unstable. No, I don't think anyone was "free" under Saddam. No, I believe Saddam could have dreamed of more. No. Yes. There you go Path!

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Yes, Rogue and all of his Scooter Store tea potty buddies who’s rolling around on government financed wheels.
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That's golden!
FUNNY!!!
ROTFL
I should have added who have no idea they are the 47 percenters who drew Romney’s contempt.

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What a hoot. Politico does an article about Obama Care and the picture shows ONE volunteer phone operator!!! Yep, the bloom is off the rose!
Wiktionary
the bloom is off the rose
(idiomatic, business, economics) Business is not going well for a particular identified firm or industry, or the overall economy has taken a downturn.
Obamacare message war goes local
By KYLE CHENEY | 8/4/13 4:59 PM EDT Updated: 8/5/13 7:06 AM EDT
CENTREVILLE, Va.— A race to define Obamacare to the masses began today between the stacks at the Centreville Library. Over pizza in Decatur, Texas. And with a glass of wine in Naples, Fla.
Dozens of communities around the country hosted pro-Obamacare events, convened by the president’s foot soldiers at Organizing for Action. The series is the first salvo in what is fixing to be a month of high-stakes health care spin. When Congress returns from its summer recess in early September, there will be less than a month until Obamacare’s most sweeping coverage programs start signing up customers in new health insurance exchanges.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/obamaca...
Some folk see no reason to cut off their nose to spite their face Rogue. After all we are talking Virginia and a town of about 70 thousand Fox disinformation viewers.

“The Centreville event’s lone attendee, Lynn Duvall of Fairfax, Va., told POLITICO that it was her family’s own medical burdens that fueled her passion for Obamacare. Duvall’s son Logan has Crohn’s disease and under the law’s provisions can stay on her health plan until he turns 26, next January. Then he’ll be able to get coverage in the health exchange, despite his pre-existing condition.
Without Obamacare, she said, her son’s illness could have devastated their family finances.

“If the Affordable Care Act weren’t there, we would just have to deal with it. If it means we lose all of the assets we’ve saved over our lifetime, that’s what it would be”
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/obamaca...
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<quoted text>THE ONLY "selections" the CFRreemasons didn't fully control was 1760 & JFK(but they did get LBJ for VP) and 1980 & RWR(but they did get GHWB for VP). Kenyan-born Obama is a Freemason aschrist.
UFOs kidnapped voters for Romney in the Virgin Islands and Trinidad.
LBJ was born in Kenya as was Truman.
Kenya secretly controls Texas.

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Typical Libtardian Logic. He won the election, ergo he is a lawful president.
Did you say that about G.W. Bush too?!?
Yes, the second time. Bush “won” only one election. Obama won two.

However we accepted it and moved on. The birfoon on the other hand will take his crazy to the grave.

“Facts trump speculation”

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<quoted text>If Obama's father was a United States Citizen,Hilary Clinton never would have been able to use this controversy to try to win the primary.
If the Earth were flat, Columbus would never have discovered America.

So what?

The fake Hawaiian birth fable had no motive. If Obama Sr. had been a US citizen Phil Berg would not have invented the fabled conspiracy-with-no-motive that had no evidence. So what Frank. So f--king what?

The fact is, Frank, the nationality of Obama Sr. has never been relevant. Neither have you.
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Sheriff Joe Obama Investigator Responds To Rep Stockman's......
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‘HEY OBAMA, YOU ARE STUPID, BAD MAN’: VIRAL EGYPTIAN MUSIC VIDEO ACCUSES OBAMA OF SUPPORTING TERRORISM, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/05/he...
Hey moron. You are a pathetic ignorant fool who clings to the fable of the week
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Some folk see no reason to cut off their nose to spite their face Rogue. After all we are talking Virginia and a town of about 70 thousand Fox disinformation viewers.
“The Centreville event’s lone attendee, Lynn Duvall of Fairfax, Va., told POLITICO that it was her family’s own medical burdens that fueled her passion for Obamacare. Duvall’s son Logan has Crohn’s disease and under the law’s provisions can stay on her health plan until he turns 26, next January. Then he’ll be able to get coverage in the health exchange, despite his pre-existing condition.
Without Obamacare, she said, her son’s illness could have devastated their family finances.
“If the Affordable Care Act weren’t there, we would just have to deal with it. If it means we lose all of the assets we’ve saved over our lifetime, that’s what it would be”
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/obamaca...
It's funny watching a "supposedly" grown man bytch, whine and moan about a TV CHANNEL! LMAO! JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT THEY SAY! LMAO! Talk about immaturity! Wake up, you nitwits, ObumblerCare is a disaster of a bill. It's very easy to see, that is, if you can see past the end of your nose!
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UFOs kidnapped voters for Romney in the Virgin Islands and Trinidad.
LBJ was born in Kenya as was Truman.
Kenya secretly controls Texas.
Time to put on your tinfoil hat!

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