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And Rogue, when you state that Germany and Russia agreed to the invasion of Iraq, you HAVE to give some kind of proof, of evidence. That kind of statement HAS to be backed up, as it is so important.

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The fact that President Obama wants to spread the blame of betrayal by telling Americans that every member of Congress was briefed on the top secrecy of their spying on innocent citizens makes them as guilty as sin too.
A lot of people are mad as hellfire. And it does not take a Harvard Law degree to understand the Constitution of the United States and when it has been broken.
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Sorry, but facts are not accepted in birfoon/birhterland. They deal in hate phantasms and actually believe what they invent.
Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, Beck, O'Lielly, Hannity, etc will all fail miserably if they took a polygraph test and still would convince their believers a liberal administered the test therefore it is not valid.

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Truth Is for 'Liberals'
Here we are, five and a half years into the Bush Administration, and the press corps still hasn't figured out how to handle the White House's primary tactic of media management: lying./ June 26, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/l3b978d
During George W. Bush's first term, reporters had a powerful confluence of motivations for their difficulty in calling the President to task. First was tradition; mere journalists lacked the authority to call a President a liar. Second, post-9/11 they were intimidated by Bush's McCarthyite with-us-or-ag'in-us rhetoric as well as by a bloodthirsty right-wing punditocracy.(New York Times White House reporter Elisabeth Bumiller admitted that she and her colleagues found it "frightening to stand up there," and "no one wanted to get into an argument with the President at this very serious time.")
Because the mainstream media make a fetish of a particularly brainless form of objectivity, the Bush Administration has been able to deceive the American public on a dizzying array of issues, from war to economics to science to, well, you name it. Lying has usually damaged the Presidents who do it, as I argued in my book When Presidents Lie: A History of Official Deception and Its Consequences. But the media proved so timid in the face of this Administration's deceptions that the reckoning was delayed long enough for Bush to squeak into a second term.
http://www.thenation.com/article/truth-libera...

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Pundits, Politics, and Plutocracy
The Death of Reality and the Origins of Cynicism
July 9, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/mgfevb3
There’s a new axis of evil in town consisting of: 1) the uber rich and powerful; 2) the massive lobbying/think tank/media establishment they fund; and 3) the politicians they’ve bought – from both parties.
We the people are the casualties.
This axis uses fear, distraction and wedge issues to change the national discussion from what people care most about, and what will affect us most, to ancillary issues. For example, the Koch brothers-funded ALEC is spewing out venomous anti-abortion legislation, just when the Fourth Amendment is being trashed, our pockets picked and our future destroyed.
Let’s look at some of the distorted discussions going on right now, and the reality behind them./ http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/07/09
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"OutFoxed": How Rupert Murdoch Is Destroying American Journalism
A review of Robert Greenwald's new documentary investigating the Fox News Channel./ July 10, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/5wwwr
As "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore's powerful indictment of the Bush Administration, is influencing millions of Americans in the heartland, "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism," a devastating new documentary that exposes Bush's biggest cheerleader opens this week in New York and San Francisco and will be featured in thousands of house parties across the country, sponsored by MoveOn.org on Sunday, July 18th.

"Outfoxed" demonstrates in painful detail how one media empire, making full use of the public airwaves, can reject any semblance of fairness or perspective, and serve as the mouthpiece of right-wing conservatives, fully relishing its role. Media critic Jeffrey Chester describes the Fox News operation most succinctly in the film: "Fox News Channel is a 24/7 commercial for the conservatives and the Republican Party."
http://www.alternet.org/story/19199/

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STUDY: Watching FOX News Makes You Stupid

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"OutFoxed": How Rupert Murdoch Is Destroying American Journalism
A review of Robert Greenwald's new documentary investigating the Fox News Channel./ July 10, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/5wwwr
As "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore's powerful indictment of the Bush Administration, is influencing millions of Americans in the heartland, "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism," a devastating new documentary that exposes Bush's biggest cheerleader opens this week in New York and San Francisco and will be featured in thousands of house parties across the country, sponsored by MoveOn.org on Sunday, July 18th.
"Outfoxed" demonstrates in painful detail how one media empire, making full use of the public airwaves, can reject any semblance of fairness or perspective, and serve as the mouthpiece of right-wing conservatives, fully relishing its role. Media critic Jeffrey Chester describes the Fox News operation most succinctly in the film: "Fox News Channel is a 24/7 commercial for the conservatives and the Republican Party."
http://www.alternet.org/story/19199/
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STUDY: Watching FOX News Makes You Stupid
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http://www.businessinsider.com/extended-expos...
You know, when one station causes such a ruckus, they must be doing something right! As in,#1! The title of this so-called "study" sounds like something that bonehead Chris Mathews would come up with. Michael Moore? Please! What a pig! And to think you loony lefties tune in each night with paper cup in hand. What's your favorite? Communist News Network? Most Skewed News Broadcasting Channel? All Barack Channel? Or perhaps, the Continuous Bullchit System?
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You know, when one station causes such a ruckus, they must be doing something right! As in,#1! The title of this so-called "study" sounds like something that bonehead Chris Mathews would come up with. Michael Moore? Please! What a pig! And to think you loony lefties tune in each night with paper cup in hand. What's your favorite? Communist News Network? Most Skewed News Broadcasting Channel? All Barack Channel? Or perhaps, the Continuous Bullchit System?
My preference is Independent Media which is liberal/progressive.

Moore is a truth teller and Matthews is a corporate hack prostitute.

You need to learn the difference.

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Do local owners deliver more localism?
July / 2004 /
http://transition.fcc.gov/ownership/materials...

Senator Boxer exposes FCC Cover up
http://tinyurl.com/odhr6
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Lawyer Says FCC Ordered Study Destroyed
9/14/2006 / http://tinyurl.com/k2pvjv8
WASHINGTON (AP)— The Federal Communications Commission ordered its staff to destroy all copies of a draft study that suggested greater concentration of media ownership would hurt local TV news coverage, a former lawyer at the agency says.
The report, written in 2004, came to light during the Senate confirmation hearing for FCC Chairman Kevin Martin.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. received a copy of the report "indirectly from someone within the FCC who believed the information should be made public," according to Boxer spokeswoman Natalie Ravitz.
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that "every last piece" of the report be destroyed. "The whole project was just stopped — end of discussion," he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC's Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
In a letter sent to Martin on Wednesday, Boxer said she was "dismayed that this report, which was done at taxpayer expense more than two years ago, and which concluded that localism is beneficial to the public, was shoved in a drawer."
In the letter, Boxer asked whether any other commissioners "past or present" knew of the report's existence and why it was never made public. She also asked whether it was "shelved because the outcome was not to the liking of some of the commissioners and/or any outside powerful interests?"
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washingto...

FCC buried evidence to protect big media
http://tinyurl.com/m4wxt
http://www.stopbigmedia.com/blog/...

Why Did the FCC Bury Studies on Media Consolidation?
September 20, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/mvzq9wu
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/9/20/why_did...

Cover-Up: FCC Bureaucrat Buried Evidence to Protect Friends in Big Media / September 13, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/k8w33qc
We have just learned that former FCC Chairman Michael Powell buried a federal study that found media consolidation was harmful to local news reporting.

Powell suppressed the 2004 study to protect the interests of his friends in the corporate media lobby. It revealed that locally owned stations produced more local news than those owned by media giants -- such as ABC/Disney, Fox Television, Viacom and Sinclair Broadcast Group..

Free Press received the secret study today after it was leaked to Congress. News of the cover-up comes at a time when Powell's successor, Chairman Kevin Martin, seeks to hand over control of more local news outlets to massive media conglomerates.

Powell commissioned the study in hopes it would show that consolidated ownership didn't negatively impact local communities. The Associated Press reported Wednesday afternoon that upon seeing the results, Powell ordered that "every last piece" of the study be destroyed.
http://mediacitizen.blogspot.com/2006/09/cove...
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You know, when one station causes such a ruckus, they must be doing something right! As in,#1! The title of this so-called "study" sounds like something that bonehead Chris Mathews would come up with. Michael Moore? Please! What a pig! And to think you loony lefties tune in each night with paper cup in hand. What's your favorite? Communist News Network? Most Skewed News Broadcasting Channel? All Barack Channel? Or perhaps, the Continuous Bullchit System?
The American Media is corporate owned and operated and are loyal to these two corrupt parties.

RINOS and LINOS.

Media Deregulation
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Big Media: "The Big Six"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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My preference is Independent Media which is liberal/progressive.
Moore is a truth teller and Matthews is a corporate hack prostitute.
You need to learn the difference.
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Do local owners deliver more localism?
July / 2004 /
http://transition.fcc.gov/ownership/materials...
Senator Boxer exposes FCC Cover up
http://tinyurl.com/odhr6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Lawyer Says FCC Ordered Study Destroyed
9/14/2006 / http://tinyurl.com/k2pvjv8
WASHINGTON (AP)— The Federal Communications Commission ordered its staff to destroy all copies of a draft study that suggested greater concentration of media ownership would hurt local TV news coverage, a former lawyer at the agency says.
The report, written in 2004, came to light during the Senate confirmation hearing for FCC Chairman Kevin Martin.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. received a copy of the report "indirectly from someone within the FCC who believed the information should be made public," according to Boxer spokeswoman Natalie Ravitz.
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that "every last piece" of the report be destroyed. "The whole project was just stopped — end of discussion," he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC's Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
In a letter sent to Martin on Wednesday, Boxer said she was "dismayed that this report, which was done at taxpayer expense more than two years ago, and which concluded that localism is beneficial to the public, was shoved in a drawer."
In the letter, Boxer asked whether any other commissioners "past or present" knew of the report's existence and why it was never made public. She also asked whether it was "shelved because the outcome was not to the liking of some of the commissioners and/or any outside powerful interests?"
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washingto...
FCC buried evidence to protect big media
http://tinyurl.com/m4wxt
http://www.stopbigmedia.com/blog/...
Why Did the FCC Bury Studies on Media Consolidation?
September 20, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/mvzq9wu
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/9/20/why_did...
Cover-Up: FCC Bureaucrat Buried Evidence to Protect Friends in Big Media / September 13, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/k8w33qc
We have just learned that former FCC Chairman Michael Powell buried a federal study that found media consolidation was harmful to local news reporting.
Powell suppressed the 2004 study to protect the interests of his friends in the corporate media lobby. It revealed that locally owned stations produced more local news than those owned by media giants -- such as ABC/Disney, Fox Television, Viacom and Sinclair Broadcast Group..
Free Press received the secret study today after it was leaked to Congress. News of the cover-up comes at a time when Powell's successor, Chairman Kevin Martin, seeks to hand over control of more local news outlets to massive media conglomerates.
Powell commissioned the study in hopes it would show that consolidated ownership didn't negatively impact local communities. The Associated Press reported Wednesday afternoon that upon seeing the results, Powell ordered that "every last piece" of the study be destroyed.
http://mediacitizen.blogspot.com/2006/09/cove...
I noted your sources. Independent media? LMAO! BTW, you're living in the past.

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You know, when one station causes such a ruckus, they must be doing something right! As in,#1! The title of this so-called "study" sounds like something that bonehead Chris Mathews would come up with. Michael Moore? Please! What a pig! And to think you loony lefties tune in each night with paper cup in hand. What's your favorite? Communist News Network? Most Skewed News Broadcasting Channel? All Barack Channel? Or perhaps, the Continuous Bullchit System?
How about American er hmm Lady's Pravda or her Vladimir Putin or her Iranian minister of the interior or her Fidel Castro or her (the late) Hugo Chavez? She's quoted them all, and surprise, all of them when attacking Obama. And she is your staunch and very religious birther buddy, don't forget, now LRS. Our father...hmmm, our Putin?
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How about American er hmm Lady's Pravda or her Vladimir Putin or her Iranian minister of the interior or her Fidel Castro or her (the late) Hugo Chavez? She's quoted them all, and surprise, all of them when attacking Obama. And she is your staunch and very religious birther buddy, don't forget, now LRS. Our father...hmmm, our Putin?
I suggest, if you have a question for AL, ask "her". That would be your best approach. No charge for the tip!

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Rogue, guess I won't wait for that proof on Russia-Germany backing the invasion of Iraq. Yawn. Sigh.
Instead, I will comment on the canadafreepress.com trash. Re-read it, Rogue, because I believe you only read the "hate" headline, so pleased and excited, you cut and pasted it forthwith without reading the actual article.
There is zilch to rebut, except yes, the messenger. Remember Marshall McLuhan's "the medium is the message?" This fits right in, as to make you understand it better, one could and would say "The messenger is the message". The message gives no numbers, no facts, no sources. It is just a hate editorial that gives no proof of what it advances. Do report one factual passage from this canadafreepress. com garbage, Rogue, I dare you.
Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?

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Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
What is Salon? Never even heard of it.

Show me where I said they were all lies.

BTW, where is that Russia-Germany source? I've answered ALL your questions and more and never ever shirked from coming up with a source or a link, even when my computer or Topix won't cooperate. Funny, never heard from you any more on those gun killings. Did I give you enough sources? Did I post enough charts? Convinced, now?
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Oh, I have read military intelligents reports. For instance almost always before every Spring thaws the North Koreans go on military maneuvers and so does the South. Then in the Fall, same things. But I will never be 100% sure!!!
More meaningless, idiotic spam from Rogue Moron.

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Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
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What is Salon? Never even heard of it.
Show me where I said they were all lies.
BTW, where is that Russia-Germany source? I've answered ALL your questions and more and never ever shirked from coming up with a source or a link, even when my computer or Topix won't cooperate. Funny, never heard from you any more on those gun killings. Did I give you enough sources? Did I post enough charts? Convinced, now?
Salon dot com! Oh, I jest furget. It be salon.com for ya'll CanAdians!

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The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
You’re plagiarizing Adrien Nash’s dumb article GB, but not only was his piece debunked forthwith he was beat up something awful over at Dr. Conspiracy. He had everyone laughing long time.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/07/why-ob...

There’s no pregnant photos of my mother either and she had five kids.

You funny man GB!

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Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
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What is Salon? Never even heard of it.
Show me where I said they were all lies.
BTW, where is that Russia-Germany source? I've answered ALL your questions and more and never ever shirked from coming up with a source or a link, even when my computer or Topix won't cooperate. Funny, never heard from you any more on those gun killings. Did I give you enough sources? Did I post enough charts? Convinced, now?
When you will not rebut a post that sites CFP, WND, etc. but just bash it as being unreliable, you are all lies.
Yes, I did rebut you "guns" by saying, "if it were not for our black citizens, our murder rate by guns would look more like Canada"!
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<quoted text>I suggest, if you have a question for AL, ask "her". That would be your best approach. No charge for the tip!
But since (in Jercque's "us v them" role playing fantasy) both you and "she" are part of "them". And under the Jercque rules your team is limited to one answer so you may as well field the question.
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The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
Birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days), and yet they would like the world to believe that there is a realistic chance that she had a passport, and traveled using it during the last two months of pregnancy (which would have been even more rare due to the rate of stillbirths at the time) and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii are lying when they have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates (short form and long form) to Obama and that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.

Birthers have not even shown the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created (and if it was created after 1961, she did not have a passport in 1961). The date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created is unlikely to have been lost, evaporated, or scratched off of the file (and if it were, they could tell us if that had indeed happened). But birther sites have not even told us this date. And they LIED by saying that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (She actually said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII, but they just cut off the tape just before she was asked "Where was he born?")

Yet, the birther sites that have not shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 and do not show the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created still want us to assume that she had a passport, and that she traveled to a foreign country despite the risk of stillbirth, and that the Hawaii birth certificate and the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about his place of birth.

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The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
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You’re plagiarizing Adrien Nash’s dumb article GB, but not only was his piece debunked forthwith he was beat up something awful over at Dr. Conspiracy. He had everyone laughing long time.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/07/why-ob...
There’s no pregnant photos of my mother either and she had five kids.
You funny man GB!
How do you know he plagiarized that post? Maybe he is Guest Contributor given credit on the site you posted?
And how do you know there were no pictures taken of your mother while she was PG? Many women destroy pictures of them being PG as they think they make themselves look fat!
You Phonny man Poopo.

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