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gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166216 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You do know that intelligence gathering comes from many souses and groups like our CIA and DIA have to sort it out and make a report. A good reports ALWAYS contains conflicting opinions. During ANY president's lintel briefings the president is informed of all opinions.
The FACT is, that in addition to our CIA and DIA, the British, French, German, Russian and the Israelis ALL AGREED that Iraq MOST LIKELY had active WMD programs.
As Libtards you only pick out the information which agrees with YOUR agenda whereas I, as a Conservative, can weigh all the facts and come to an informed opinion.
Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Cwqh4wQPoQkXX
Meanwhile Obama is totally ignoring the facts that IRAN is developing new clear weapons.
WRONG the evidence shows differently.

Thanks for your video which features prominent Democrats who are prostitutes just like Bush Republicans.

Enclosed is a clue for you my friend.

Powell knew it was phony baloney evidence that is why he wanted the head of the CIA George Tenet seated right in back of him at the United Nations.

Powell did not want to go it alone at the UN.

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Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice Tell The Truth About Iraq in Feb. July 2001 / Iraq was no threat to any country and contained
http://tinyurl.com/2fhgd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Colin Powell Saying He Was Misled Before UN Speech on WMDs
http://tinyurl.com/6n9tg2
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Powell Says US Should Not Have Invaded Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/6zdvju
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Gen. Colin Powell - "I Tried To Avoid This War."
http://tinyurl.com/6ju6f9
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat / July 25, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/ljbsh9v
half-dozen former CIA agents investigating prewar intelligence have found that a secret Pentagon committee, set up by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in October 2001, manipulated reams of intelligence information prepared by the spy agency on the so-called Iraqi threat and then delivered it to top White House officials who used it to win support for a war in Iraq.

The former CIA agents were asked to examine prewar intelligence last year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and CIA Director George Tenet. The former agents will present a final report on their findings to the Pentagon, the CIA and possibly the Senate and/or Congress later this year.

More than a dozen calls to the White House, the CIA, the National Security Council and the Pentagon for comment were not returned.

The ad-hoc committee, called the Office of Special Plans, headed by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and other Pentagon hawks, described the worst-case scenarios in terms of Iraq's alleged stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and claimed the country was close to acquiring nuclear weapons, according to four of the CIA agents, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the information is still classified, who conducted a preliminary view of the intelligence. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB254...

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The spy who wouldn't keep a secret
In the year since she leaked an explosive email about spying on UN diplomats, GCHQ translator Katharine Gun has been arrested, charged with breaking the Official Secrets Act and transformed into an international cause celebre. As the case against her was dropped yesterday, Oliver Burkeman and Richard Norton-Taylor met an unlikely rebel
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/2...
gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166217 Aug 2, 2013
Diplomat's Suppressed Document Lays Bare the Lies behind Iraq War
December 15, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/ye8w94
The Government's case for going to war in Iraq has been torn apart by the publication of previously suppressed evidence that Tony Blair lied over Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
A devastating attack on Mr. Blair's justification for military action by Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, has been kept under wraps until now because he was threatened with being charged with breaching the Official Secrets Act.

In the testimony revealed today Mr. Ross, 40, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, makes it clear that Mr. Blair must have known Saddam Hussein possessed no weapons of mass destruction. He said that during his posting to the UN, "at no time did HMG [Her Majesty's Government] assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK or its interests."

Mr. Ross revealed it was a commonly held view among British officials dealing with Iraq that any threat by Saddam Hussein had been "effectively contained".
He also reveals that British officials warned US diplomats that bringing down the Iraqi dictator would lead to the chaos the world has since witnessed. "I remember on several occasions the UK team stating this view in terms during our discussions with the US (who agreed)," he said.

It shows Mr. Ross told the inquiry, chaired by Lord Butler, "there was no intelligence evidence of significant holdings of CW [chemical warfare], BW [biological warfare] or nuclear material" held by the Iraqi dictator before the invasion. "There was, moreover, no intelligence or assessment during my time in the job that Iraq had any intention to launch an attack against its neighbors or the UK or the US," he added.

Mr. Ross's evidence directly challenges the assertions by the Prime Minster that the war was legally justified because Saddam possessed WMDs which could be "activated" within 45 minutes and posed a threat to British interests. These claims were also made in two dossiers, subsequently discredited, in spite of the advice by Mr. Ross.

Mr. Ross said in late 2002 that he "discussed this at some length with David Kelly", the weapons expert who a year later committed suicide when he was named as the source of a BBC report saying Downing Street had "sexed up" the WMD claims in a dossier. The Butler inquiry cleared Mr. Blair and Downing Street of "sexing up" the dossier, but the publication of the Carne Ross evidence will cast fresh doubts on its findings.

Mr Ross, 40, was a highly rated diplomat but he resigned because of his misgivings about the legality of the war. He still fears the threat of action under the Official Secrets Act.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1215-...

The Secret Downing Street Memo
http://downingstreetmemo.com/docs/memotext.pd...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166218 Aug 2, 2013
Yep, times are tough out there for our black folks who not only are trying to find work in the Great Recession but they also have to compete with the undocumented workers.
Yep, Obama has sold out black American citizens to illegal aliens!

Bad News for Blacks; Country’s Financial Picture Spells Their Doom
By Jerry McConnell, August 2, 2013

The average person in the United States might think that Obama would be frantic and worried to a frazzle over the current national fiscal status and its dire outlook for the futures of the blacks of America. But does Barack Hussein Obama look or act worried and downtrodden in his daily cavorts around the country or even the world?

If you said “No” you would be absolutely correct. Things are working out fiscally perfect and just the way he, or I should say, his mentors in the U. N. have planned them. The deeper in debt the blacks are the more indebted they will become to this phony tin-horn dictator who is bailing them out with taxpayer’s dollars and reaping the benefits of obsequiousness and poverty without the burden of personal debt or fear of having to pay taxes.

It’s the best of both worlds for Obama; he steals honest taxpaying citizens tax dollars from the U. S. Treasury with no fear of impunity or even repayment. Thus his quasi legal acts of theft are also of no danger to his standings in the free world and they reap the huge benefits of gaining millions of ballot box advantage votes from a downtrodden segment of the population that is happy doing nothing but place an “X” in the box adjacent to the names of Democrats, Obama in particular, on the ballot for public office.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166219 Aug 2, 2013
El Gato wrote:
<quoted text>
And if they, the Brits, Germans, French, Russians and Israelis, did NOT agree, please PROVE IT!!!!
Rogue, you made the statement that they agreed. Do you think I should prove they did not? How do I do this? Are you sane or you just can't admit you once more made it up. They did NOT agree. YOU stated they did, now prove it.

Maybe you'll understand this parable: NOT

Neighbour : "I saw you making out with your boy friend, Rogue"

Rogue : "What? Me with a man? I don't even have a boy friend. Prove it"

Neighbour : "No, Rogue YOU prove you didn't have sexual relations with your boy friend"

Rogue :"But how do I do that?"

Neighbour : "Your problem. Just prove you didn't".

Do you require more specimens of your childish response asking ME for proof of something YOU stated and was never said? El gato? You're not LTR by any chance, are you?
gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166220 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Now go to page 14 and you will notice that they are talking about the Iraqis going to the country of N*g*r. Amb. Joe Wilson LIED when he said that Iraq did not send a "trade delegation" to Iraq when in fact they had.
Now, ask yourself, if the Iraqi TD had gone to N*g*r, what would they have wanted from that country? Bananas? I think knot!!!
The CIA said they had gone there to buy 500 tons of Uranium-oxide? Now what would Iraq want with "yellow cake"? Fertilizer? I think knot!!!
Now Amb Joe Wilson knew that the Iraqi TD had traveled to N*g*r but that their request to buy yellow cake had been turned down but he did not report that. He simply stated that Iraq had made no attempt to buy yellow cake which was a LIE!!!
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiacc...
Ask yourself one question Rogue???

Why would a multitude of CIA, US Generals, and British Generals all come out publicly against Bush/Cheney and Blair?

On page 11 from your link it states clearly that INR and DOE did not find any evidence of Yellow Cake Aluminum Tubes.

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gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166221 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, times are tough out there for our black folks who not only are trying to find work in the Great Recession but they also have to compete with the undocumented workers.
Yep, Obama has sold out black American citizens to illegal aliens!
Bad News for Blacks; Country’s Financial Picture Spells Their Doom
By Jerry McConnell, August 2, 2013
The average person in the United States might think that Obama would be frantic and worried to a frazzle over the current national fiscal status and its dire outlook for the futures of the blacks of America. But does Barack Hussein Obama look or act worried and downtrodden in his daily cavorts around the country or even the world?
If you said “No” you would be absolutely correct. Things are working out fiscally perfect and just the way he, or I should say, his mentors in the U. N. have planned them. The deeper in debt the blacks are the more indebted they will become to this phony tin-horn dictator who is bailing them out with taxpayer’s dollars and reaping the benefits of obsequiousness and poverty without the burden of personal debt or fear of having to pay taxes.
It’s the best of both worlds for Obama; he steals honest taxpaying citizens tax dollars from the U. S. Treasury with no fear of impunity or even repayment. Thus his quasi legal acts of theft are also of no danger to his standings in the free world and they reap the huge benefits of gaining millions of ballot box advantage votes from a downtrodden segment of the population that is happy doing nothing but place an “X” in the box adjacent to the names of Democrats, Obama in particular, on the ballot for public office.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
No tears for Reagan
June 8, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/558r6l
Excuse me if I don’t shed any tears over the passing of former President Ronald Reagan. While the news of the 40th president’s death brought on a flood of sentimentality over the nation’s media this past weekend, I could not help but recall what the Reagan presidency really meant for Black Americans. Similar to what occurred upon the death of Richard Nixon, amnesia has set upon journalists as they recall Reagan’s era; choosing to indulge in idol worship rather than serious reflection on the former president’s policies.
http://www.blackamericatoday.com/article.cfm...

Ronald Reagan: The Great White Redeemer
http://tinyurl.com/6jljhm / June 10 2004
Only 12 years elapsed between the glorious military victory over the Confederate Slave States in 1865 and the definitive defeat of Reconstruction in 1877. In many important respects, the Reconstruction period was even briefer than that. By 1870, when the last of the southern states ratified the 15th Amendment to the Constitution, Tennessee had already rejected biracial democracy and installed an all-white “Redeemer” government.“Redemption” then swept through Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/94/94_cover_r...

Reagan's heart of darkness
June 9, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/28ytj
PRESIDENT Bush proclaimed: "Ronald Reagan believed that God takes the side of justice and that America has a special calling to oppose tyranny and defend freedom." In the first three days of news reports on the death of the former president, not a single major American newspaper, television station, or politician has dared to exhume this counterpoint to the Reagan's legacy: "Immoral, evil, and totally un-Christian."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...
gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166222 Aug 2, 2013
Reagan, White As Snow
http://tinyurl.com/6lujee
Last week, as we’ve heard, the Republican presidential candidates praised the name and heritage of Ronald Reagan 40 times during the televised Show and Tell at the Reagan Presidential Library. That none of them mentioned Reagan’s legacy of white supremacy and support for apartheid is a little like invoking Jefferson Davis and not mentioning treason or slavery. Actually, a lot like it.
Ronald Reagan was a white supremacist to his very core, and left enough traces over his lengthy political career so that it’s evident for anyone who cares to look—which apparently few do.
Domestically, he opposed every legislative remedy for African Americans, betraying a meanness of spirit and an open racism. As Sidney Blumenthal wrote in The Guardian in 2003:/ http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/05/08/r...

Trent Lott, Ronald Reagan and Republican Racism
Dec. 14, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/d9w75
Southern Strategy: The race question has haunted Reagan and the GOP for decades
The same could be said, of course, about such Republican heroes as, Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon or George Bush the elder, all of whom used coded racial messages to lure disaffected blue collar and Southern white voters away from the Democrats. Yet it's with Reagan, who set a standard for exploiting white anger and resentment rarely seen since George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door, that the Republican's selective memory about its race-baiting habit really stands out.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166223 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, times are tough out there for our black folks who not only are trying to find work in the Great Recession but they also have to compete with the undocumented workers.
Yep, Obama has sold out black American citizens to illegal aliens!
Bad News for Blacks; Country’s Financial Picture Spells Their Doom
By Jerry McConnell, August 2, 2013
The average person in the United States might think that Obama would be frantic and worried to a frazzle over the current national fiscal status and its dire outlook for the futures of the blacks of America. But does Barack Hussein Obama look or act worried and downtrodden in his daily cavorts around the country or even the world?
If you said “No” you would be absolutely correct. Things are working out fiscally perfect and just the way he, or I should say, his mentors in the U. N. have planned them. The deeper in debt the blacks are the more indebted they will become to this phony tin-horn dictator who is bailing them out with taxpayer’s dollars and reaping the benefits of obsequiousness and poverty without the burden of personal debt or fear of having to pay taxes.
It’s the best of both worlds for Obama; he steals honest taxpaying citizens tax dollars from the U. S. Treasury with no fear of impunity or even repayment. Thus his quasi legal acts of theft are also of no danger to his standings in the free world and they reap the huge benefits of gaining millions of ballot box advantage votes from a downtrodden segment of the population that is happy doing nothing but place an “X” in the box adjacent to the names of Democrats, Obama in particular, on the ballot for public office.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
canadafreepress.com/ Rogue? Really? Why do you haunt the internet trying to locate the sleeziest and most unreliable, not to mention, hating media sources? There are others, Rogue, others that may lean left or right but that occasionally come out with real news instead of editorialized criticism. Trash like WND.com and canadafreepress.com/ have never, since 2008, written one single good thing on Obama. If so, show me. In almost 5 years, you mean to tell me that not ONE single thing Obama has done is okay? Not one? And yet, you eagerly post hateful BS from those various sources, like Blaze.com , for example. Why?

Oh, btw, I've searched and searched much media to find out if the Alabama "final solution" to clean the working roles of aliens was the reason for lower unemployment figures. Could not find one single proof of that. Can you refer me to a decent media article that says purging of aliens has helped the job numbers in Alabama. Oh, coming of Hyundai and other industry because of low low wages and no unions, those have helped, as coming of Airbus A320 production in 2 years or less will bolster employment.
gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166224 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
To you toad stools from the Green Party, anyone not a socialist, is a radical right-winger!!!
Are you out of your mind?

Are these British Generals all liberals?

I THINK NOT!

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Ret. U.K. Army Head Slams U.S. Iraq Policy
Calls Invasion Planners "Intellectually Bankrupt," Says Washington Relies Too Heavily On Military / LONDON, Sept. 1, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/28wslj
(CBS/AP) The head of the British army during the Iraq invasion described former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's approach as "intellectually bankrupt," according to comments published Saturday.

Gen. Sir Mike Jackson, who retired in August 2006 as chief of the general staff, said Rumsfeld was "one of those most responsible for the current situation in Iraq," in excerpts from an autobiography, "Soldier," that were published by The Daily Telegraph.

He writes that Rumsfeld refused to deploy enough troops following the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime to maintain law and order, and rejected the State Department's plans for post-invasion administration of the country. Jackson is also critical of President Bush for handing control of post-invasion Iraq to the Pentagon. "All the planning carried out by the State Department went to waste," he writes.
For Rumsfeld and his supporters "it was an ideological article of faith that the coalition soldiers would be accepted as a liberating army," Jackson wrote.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/01/wor...

Brigadier Nigel R.F. Aylwin-Foster, British Army
U.S. Army Transformation needs to focus less on warfighting and more on developing a genuinely adaptive workforce. Dec. 2005 - Jan. 2006
http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/MilitaryReview/Ar...

2nd Retired British General Slams US
September 2, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2bjqwk
Then-deputy British General Tim Cross, right, seen with Retired U.S. Lt. General Jay Garner in 2003, slammed the U.S. on Iraq a day after criticism made by the general who led the British army during the invasion.

LONDON - A second retired British general slammed the United States over its Iraq policy, saying in a newspaper interview published Sunday that it had been "fatally flawed."

Maj. Gen. Tim Cross, the most senior British officer involved in the postwar planning, said he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of Iraq falling into chaos but said former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed the warnings.

"Right from the very beginning we were all very concerned about the lack of detail that had gone into the postwar plan and there is no doubt that Rumsfeld was at the heart of that process," Cross said in the Sunday Mirror newspaper.

The comments come a day after the release of critical comments made by the general who led the British army during the Iraq invasion.

Retired Gen. Sir Mike Jackson also singled out Rumsfeld for criticism, saying his approach to the invasion was "intellectually bankrupt," according to quotes excerpted from his autobiography and published by The Daily Telegraph Saturday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20555490/

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166225 Aug 2, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Explains a lot. I suspect that someone dumped a large barrel of hallucinogens in the water supply up there
Did it hurt your feelings to compare Librarians to Progressives? You both make up only about 5% of the voters, don't you. And you are both likely to throw temper tantrums when you are offended too.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166226 Aug 2, 2013
gp org wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you out of your mind?
Are these British Generals all liberals?
I THINK NOT!
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Ret. U.K. Army Head Slams U.S. Iraq Policy
Calls Invasion Planners "Intellectually Bankrupt," Says Washington Relies Too Heavily On Military / LONDON, Sept. 1, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/28wslj
(CBS/AP) The head of the British army during the Iraq invasion described former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's approach as "intellectually bankrupt," according to comments published Saturday.
Gen. Sir Mike Jackson, who retired in August 2006 as chief of the general staff, said Rumsfeld was "one of those most responsible for the current situation in Iraq," in excerpts from an autobiography, "Soldier," that were published by The Daily Telegraph.
He writes that Rumsfeld refused to deploy enough troops following the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime to maintain law and order, and rejected the State Department's plans for post-invasion administration of the country. Jackson is also critical of President Bush for handing control of post-invasion Iraq to the Pentagon. "All the planning carried out by the State Department went to waste," he writes.
For Rumsfeld and his supporters "it was an ideological article of faith that the coalition soldiers would be accepted as a liberating army," Jackson wrote.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/01/wor...
Brigadier Nigel R.F. Aylwin-Foster, British Army
U.S. Army Transformation needs to focus less on warfighting and more on developing a genuinely adaptive workforce. Dec. 2005 - Jan. 2006
http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/MilitaryReview/Ar...
2nd Retired British General Slams US
September 2, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2bjqwk
Then-deputy British General Tim Cross, right, seen with Retired U.S. Lt. General Jay Garner in 2003, slammed the U.S. on Iraq a day after criticism made by the general who led the British army during the invasion.
LONDON - A second retired British general slammed the United States over its Iraq policy, saying in a newspaper interview published Sunday that it had been "fatally flawed."
Maj. Gen. Tim Cross, the most senior British officer involved in the postwar planning, said he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of Iraq falling into chaos but said former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed the warnings.
"Right from the very beginning we were all very concerned about the lack of detail that had gone into the postwar plan and there is no doubt that Rumsfeld was at the heart of that process," Cross said in the Sunday Mirror newspaper.
The comments come a day after the release of critical comments made by the general who led the British army during the Iraq invasion.
Retired Gen. Sir Mike Jackson also singled out Rumsfeld for criticism, saying his approach to the invasion was "intellectually bankrupt," according to quotes excerpted from his autobiography and published by The Daily Telegraph Saturday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20555490/
Why YES!!! There are Liberals in the British military just like there are in the American military. It is called ...... Poli-Tics.
You do know the definition of poli-tics, don't you? Poli means many and tics are Blood Sucking Insects!
Learn to Read

Shelbyville, IN

#166228 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Did it hurt your feelings to compare Librarians to Progressives? You both make up only about 5% of the voters, don't you. And you are both likely to throw temper tantrums when you are offended too.
Librarians make up 5 percent of the voters? You'd think our libraries would be better funded

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#166229 Aug 2, 2013
Jacques,
A government can write, pass and implement any laws it wants.
But when it does so in secret to justify spying on innocent citizens without probable cause and under the color of law, that government ceases to be a government of the people, for the people, and by the people.
The NSA spy scandal is a very serious blow to civil liberties and will dog President Obama for for time eternity.
loose

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166230 Aug 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
canadafreepress.com/ Rogue? Really? Why do you haunt the internet trying to locate the sleeziest and most unreliable, not to mention, hating media sources? There are others, Rogue, others that may lean left or right but that occasionally come out with real news instead of editorialized criticism. Trash like WND.com and canadafreepress.com/ have never, since 2008, written one single good thing on Obama. If so, show me. In almost 5 years, you mean to tell me that not ONE single thing Obama has done is okay? Not one? And yet, you eagerly post hateful BS from those various sources, like Blaze.com , for example. Why?
Oh, btw, I've searched and searched much media to find out if the Alabama "final solution" to clean the working roles of aliens was the reason for lower unemployment figures. Could not find one single proof of that. Can you refer me to a decent media article that says purging of aliens has helped the job numbers in Alabama. Oh, coming of Hyundai and other industry because of low low wages and no unions, those have helped, as coming of Airbus A320 production in 2 years or less will bolster employment.
I noticed that you did not rebut even one point in that article. Yep, attack the messenger ..... because you can not attack the message.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166231 Aug 2, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
A government can write, pass and implement any laws it wants.
But when it does so in secret to justify spying on innocent citizens without probable cause and under the color of law, that government ceases to be a government of the people, for the people, and by the people.
The NSA spy scandal is a very serious blow to civil liberties and will dog President Obama for for time eternity.
loose
I agree with all of the above. But aren't you a tad harsh to Obama? Did he implement the programme? No. Did he continue and expand it? Yes. And for that he deserves reproach. But again, don't focus on your country only. Do you think we don't do it here? We are at the moment building, as I said the other day, a HUGE installation on the outskirts of Ottawa whose sole purpose will be to intercept foreign communications only.(suuuuure) It is double in size to the building we presently now have doing that and which was inaugurated less than 10 years ago. Need for more surveillance? Exactly. You might want to check out France, UK, Germany, Australia, and so many others. And don't forget Russia and your biggest trading partner, China.

Yes, the US spies on its citizens. And it's wrong. But, they are in good, or is that bad, company.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166232 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I noticed that you did not rebut even one point in that article. Yep, attack the messenger ..... because you can not attack the message.
I'll rebut it when you give me your source that stated that Germany and Russia backed the invasion of Iraq. Remember, you've said many times that you ALWAYS supply a link. I'm sure you would not lie about that, so please do so.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166233 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Did it hurt your feelings to compare Librarians to Progressives? You both make up only about 5% of the voters, don't you. And you are both likely to throw temper tantrums when you are offended too.
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Librarians make up 5 percent of the voters? You'd think our libraries would be better funded
Got me another Libtardian. Got me another Libtardian. You totally ignore my point and go after my Red Herring?
It is obvious that I meant "Libertarians".

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166234 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I noticed that you did not rebut even one point in that article. Yep, attack the messenger ..... because you can not attack the message.
Rogue, guess I won't wait for that proof on Russia-Germany backing the invasion of Iraq. Yawn. Sigh.

Instead, I will comment on the canadafreepress.com trash. Re-read it, Rogue, because I believe you only read the "hate" headline, so pleased and excited, you cut and pasted it forthwith without reading the actual article.

There is zilch to rebut, except yes, the messenger. Remember Marshall McLuhan's "the medium is the message?" This fits right in, as to make you understand it better, one could and would say "The messenger is the message". The message gives no numbers, no facts, no sources. It is just a hate editorial that gives no proof of what it advances. Do report one factual passage from this canadafreepress. com garbage, Rogue, I dare you.
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#166235 Aug 2, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt they would let him land his plane in Canada and his big rig is completely out of the question. LOL…… Besides, what would he do without his guns? Nah, he’ll probably lose himself in Alaska.
I will not be sucked into that one LTR. LOL
August 1, 2013
The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.

No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.

No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#166236 Aug 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Oh, and before I forget, I'm done exchanging with you. So boring. So uninteresting. So bereft of intellectual content. I much prefer exchanging with LRS, Rogue, GB, Frank, Amnerican Lady et al. They're so much more intelligent and stimulating than boring old you. Bye bye, Learn to Read,(apt name, come to think of it), please say hello to momma for me.
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