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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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gp org

Brooklyn, NY

#166251 Aug 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You know, when one station causes such a ruckus, they must be doing something right! As in,#1! The title of this so-called "study" sounds like something that bonehead Chris Mathews would come up with. Michael Moore? Please! What a pig! And to think you loony lefties tune in each night with paper cup in hand. What's your favorite? Communist News Network? Most Skewed News Broadcasting Channel? All Barack Channel? Or perhaps, the Continuous Bullchit System?
The American Media is corporate owned and operated and are loyal to these two corrupt parties.

RINOS and LINOS.

Media Deregulation


Big Media: "The Big Six"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#166252 Aug 2, 2013
gp org wrote:
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My preference is Independent Media which is liberal/progressive.
Moore is a truth teller and Matthews is a corporate hack prostitute.
You need to learn the difference.
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Do local owners deliver more localism?
July / 2004 /
http://transition.fcc.gov/ownership/materials...
Senator Boxer exposes FCC Cover up
http://tinyurl.com/odhr6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =vT0AIJkO-aMXX
Lawyer Says FCC Ordered Study Destroyed
9/14/2006 / http://tinyurl.com/k2pvjv8
WASHINGTON (AP)— The Federal Communications Commission ordered its staff to destroy all copies of a draft study that suggested greater concentration of media ownership would hurt local TV news coverage, a former lawyer at the agency says.
The report, written in 2004, came to light during the Senate confirmation hearing for FCC Chairman Kevin Martin.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. received a copy of the report "indirectly from someone within the FCC who believed the information should be made public," according to Boxer spokeswoman Natalie Ravitz.
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that "every last piece" of the report be destroyed. "The whole project was just stopped — end of discussion," he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC's Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
In a letter sent to Martin on Wednesday, Boxer said she was "dismayed that this report, which was done at taxpayer expense more than two years ago, and which concluded that localism is beneficial to the public, was shoved in a drawer."
In the letter, Boxer asked whether any other commissioners "past or present" knew of the report's existence and why it was never made public. She also asked whether it was "shelved because the outcome was not to the liking of some of the commissioners and/or any outside powerful interests?"
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washingto...
FCC buried evidence to protect big media
http://tinyurl.com/m4wxt
http://www.stopbigmedia.com/blog/...
Why Did the FCC Bury Studies on Media Consolidation?
September 20, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/mvzq9wu
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/9/20/why_did...
Cover-Up: FCC Bureaucrat Buried Evidence to Protect Friends in Big Media / September 13, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/k8w33qc
We have just learned that former FCC Chairman Michael Powell buried a federal study that found media consolidation was harmful to local news reporting.
Powell suppressed the 2004 study to protect the interests of his friends in the corporate media lobby. It revealed that locally owned stations produced more local news than those owned by media giants -- such as ABC/Disney, Fox Television, Viacom and Sinclair Broadcast Group..
Free Press received the secret study today after it was leaked to Congress. News of the cover-up comes at a time when Powell's successor, Chairman Kevin Martin, seeks to hand over control of more local news outlets to massive media conglomerates.
Powell commissioned the study in hopes it would show that consolidated ownership didn't negatively impact local communities. The Associated Press reported Wednesday afternoon that upon seeing the results, Powell ordered that "every last piece" of the study be destroyed.
http://mediacitizen.blogspot.com/2006/09/cove...
I noted your sources. Independent media? LMAO! BTW, you're living in the past.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166253 Aug 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You know, when one station causes such a ruckus, they must be doing something right! As in,#1! The title of this so-called "study" sounds like something that bonehead Chris Mathews would come up with. Michael Moore? Please! What a pig! And to think you loony lefties tune in each night with paper cup in hand. What's your favorite? Communist News Network? Most Skewed News Broadcasting Channel? All Barack Channel? Or perhaps, the Continuous Bullchit System?
How about American er hmm Lady's Pravda or her Vladimir Putin or her Iranian minister of the interior or her Fidel Castro or her (the late) Hugo Chavez? She's quoted them all, and surprise, all of them when attacking Obama. And she is your staunch and very religious birther buddy, don't forget, now LRS. Our father...hmmm, our Putin?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#166254 Aug 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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How about American er hmm Lady's Pravda or her Vladimir Putin or her Iranian minister of the interior or her Fidel Castro or her (the late) Hugo Chavez? She's quoted them all, and surprise, all of them when attacking Obama. And she is your staunch and very religious birther buddy, don't forget, now LRS. Our father...hmmm, our Putin?
I suggest, if you have a question for AL, ask "her". That would be your best approach. No charge for the tip!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166255 Aug 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Rogue, guess I won't wait for that proof on Russia-Germany backing the invasion of Iraq. Yawn. Sigh.
Instead, I will comment on the canadafreepress.com trash. Re-read it, Rogue, because I believe you only read the "hate" headline, so pleased and excited, you cut and pasted it forthwith without reading the actual article.
There is zilch to rebut, except yes, the messenger. Remember Marshall McLuhan's "the medium is the message?" This fits right in, as to make you understand it better, one could and would say "The messenger is the message". The message gives no numbers, no facts, no sources. It is just a hate editorial that gives no proof of what it advances. Do report one factual passage from this canadafreepress. com garbage, Rogue, I dare you.
Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166256 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
What is Salon? Never even heard of it.

Show me where I said they were all lies.

BTW, where is that Russia-Germany source? I've answered ALL your questions and more and never ever shirked from coming up with a source or a link, even when my computer or Topix won't cooperate. Funny, never heard from you any more on those gun killings. Did I give you enough sources? Did I post enough charts? Convinced, now?
Grand Birther

United States

#166257 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I have read military intelligents reports. For instance almost always before every Spring thaws the North Koreans go on military maneuvers and so does the South. Then in the Fall, same things. But I will never be 100% sure!!!
More meaningless, idiotic spam from Rogue Moron.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166258 Aug 2, 2013

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166259 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
What is Salon? Never even heard of it.
Show me where I said they were all lies.
BTW, where is that Russia-Germany source? I've answered ALL your questions and more and never ever shirked from coming up with a source or a link, even when my computer or Topix won't cooperate. Funny, never heard from you any more on those gun killings. Did I give you enough sources? Did I post enough charts? Convinced, now?
Salon dot com! Oh, I jest furget. It be salon.com for ya'll CanAdians!

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#166260 Aug 2, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
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August 1, 2013
The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
You’re plagiarizing Adrien Nash’s dumb article GB, but not only was his piece debunked forthwith he was beat up something awful over at Dr. Conspiracy. He had everyone laughing long time.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/07/why-ob...

There’s no pregnant photos of my mother either and she had five kids.

You funny man GB!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166261 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
What is Salon? Never even heard of it.
Show me where I said they were all lies.
BTW, where is that Russia-Germany source? I've answered ALL your questions and more and never ever shirked from coming up with a source or a link, even when my computer or Topix won't cooperate. Funny, never heard from you any more on those gun killings. Did I give you enough sources? Did I post enough charts? Convinced, now?
When you will not rebut a post that sites CFP, WND, etc. but just bash it as being unreliable, you are all lies.
Yes, I did rebut you "guns" by saying, "if it were not for our black citizens, our murder rate by guns would look more like Canada"!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#166262 Aug 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>I suggest, if you have a question for AL, ask "her". That would be your best approach. No charge for the tip!
But since (in Jercque's "us v them" role playing fantasy) both you and "she" are part of "them". And under the Jercque rules your team is limited to one answer so you may as well field the question.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#166263 Aug 2, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
August 1, 2013
The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
Birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days), and yet they would like the world to believe that there is a realistic chance that she had a passport, and traveled using it during the last two months of pregnancy (which would have been even more rare due to the rate of stillbirths at the time) and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii are lying when they have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates (short form and long form) to Obama and that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.

Birthers have not even shown the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created (and if it was created after 1961, she did not have a passport in 1961). The date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created is unlikely to have been lost, evaporated, or scratched off of the file (and if it were, they could tell us if that had indeed happened). But birther sites have not even told us this date. And they LIED by saying that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (She actually said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII, but they just cut off the tape just before she was asked "Where was he born?")

Yet, the birther sites that have not shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 and do not show the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created still want us to assume that she had a passport, and that she traveled to a foreign country despite the risk of stillbirth, and that the Hawaii birth certificate and the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about his place of birth.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166264 Aug 2, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
August 1, 2013
The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
You’re plagiarizing Adrien Nash’s dumb article GB, but not only was his piece debunked forthwith he was beat up something awful over at Dr. Conspiracy. He had everyone laughing long time.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/07/why-ob...
There’s no pregnant photos of my mother either and she had five kids.
You funny man GB!
How do you know he plagiarized that post? Maybe he is Guest Contributor given credit on the site you posted?
And how do you know there were no pictures taken of your mother while she was PG? Many women destroy pictures of them being PG as they think they make themselves look fat!
You Phonny man Poopo.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166265 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I have read military intelligents reports. For instance almost always before every Spring thaws the North Koreans go on military maneuvers and so does the South. Then in the Fall, same things. But I will never be 100% sure!!!
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
More meaningless, idiotic spam from Rogue Moron.
I post them just to jerk your leash. Jump little monkey, jump!
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#166266 Aug 2, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Psst, It was destroyed by the Government for the man who now illegally runs it, SHEEPLE!
The fact that you will not even attempt to answer my question, or even attempt to refute what was said, shows that you are the one who needs to seek help!
Ya think?
How could you possibly prove that statement with a fraudulent birth certificate???
You can't!
You prove once again that SHEEPLE are brainless one-celled amoeba's!
Carlsbad sheepdogs are.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#166267 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
August 1, 2013
The reasons to doubt that Honolulu was the location of Obama’s birth are all tied to what is missing.
It begins with the absence of any eyewitness, even the women who gave birth at the supposed same time and place. No one remembers him or her even though new mothers in that era stayed in the hospital for many days after giving birth.
No photos of proud mother with newborn. Wouldn’t someone have taken one of an only child with her firstborn? Not even one photo of pregnancy,-the most dramatic event of Ann’s young life. No hospital claiming bragging rights as the place that a unique President, a Hawaiian supposedly, was born. No public hospital admissions log that the public is allowed to examine.
No “half hand written, and half typed” affidavit “vital record” in possession of the H.DoH that anyone has been allowed to examine even though a supposedly real birth certificate image is fully public, nullifying privacy concerns.
No Hawaiian official has ever referred to an original Hawaiian hospital birth certificate for Obama. No Hawaiian official has ever testified under oath as to anything about Obama’s birth record. No Hawaiian official has released a statement that wasn’t couched in carefully written, legally ambiguous language.
<quoted text>
How do you know he plagiarized that post? Maybe he is Guest Contributor given credit on the site you posted?
And how do you know there were no pictures taken of your mother while she was PG? Many women destroy pictures of them being PG as they think they make themselves look fat!
You Phonny man Poopo.
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
GP org

Brooklyn, NY

#166268 Aug 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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I noted your sources. Independent media? LMAO! BTW, you're living in the past.
Wake up and smell the coffee!

I know the Democrats sold me out.

You however still believe Fox News and the Republican party represents your interest.

ROTFL

Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.

Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.

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Sociological Propaganda
Political Propaganda and Sociological Propaganda
http://tinyurl.com/5q9lds
http://web.utk.edu/~glenn/SociologicalProp.ht...
LCN Llin

United States

#166269 Aug 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you show us one kind comment Salon has made about Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin. G.W. Bush, etc.? But you consider Salon a good source of information but Canada Free Press, World Net Daily, etc. are all lies!
You are not being just a tad hypocritical, are we?
<quoted text>
Salon dot com! Oh, I jest furget. It be salon.com for ya'll CanAdians!
Canada Free Press, World Nut Daily advise to the Romney campaign was the key to his victory in 2012 ;-)

Look for the real birth certificate

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#166270 Aug 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I noted your sources. Independent media? LMAO! BTW, you're living in the past.
GP org wrote:
<quoted text>
Wake up and smell the coffee!
I know the Democrats sold me out.
You however still believe Fox News and the Republican party represents your interest.
ROTFL
Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.
Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.
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Sociological Propaganda
Political Propaganda and Sociological Propaganda
http://tinyurl.com/5q9lds
http://web.utk.edu/~glenn/SociologicalProp.ht...
Sooo, you solution is to vote Green Party? Sorry Tootzie, I will vote for the most conservative politicians I can find. Like Sarah, Allan, Ted, Paul, etc. I don't even have to mention the last names to send you into a conniption fit.

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