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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#165986 Jul 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.
You know what the private business sector is; a real-life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.
T. Roosevelt.......... 38%
Taft.......... 40%
Wilson .......... 52%
Harding.......... 49%
Coolidge.......... 48%
Hoover.......... 42%
F. Roosevelt.......... 50%
Truman.......... 50%
Eisenhower.......... 57%
Kennedy.......... 30%
Johnson.......... 47%
Nixon.......... 53%
Ford.......... 42%
Carter.......... 32%
Reagan.......... 56%
GH Bush.......... 51%
Clinton .......... 39%
GW Bush.......... 55%
Obama.......... 8%
This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration. Only 8% of them have ever worked in private business!
Poppo wrote:
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Not really Rogue! What it does is explain the incompetence of the right wing lying machine.
“The post happened to include a chart, which initially indicated that less than 10 percent of Obama’s appointees had business experience. Forbes.com subsequently altered the graph to show that more than 20 percent of Obama’s Cabinet members have a private-sector background — but not before it had been gleefully reproduced, in it is original form, all over the right.
To the chagrin of Obama’s conservative opponents, even the adjusted figures are dubious. Excluding lawyers and consultants (as Cembalest did), three of the nine members of Obama’s Cabinet included in the study — fully 33 percent — do have private-sector experience. Energy Secretary Steven Chu worked at AT & T Bell Laboratories for nine years, ultimately as the head of their Quantum Electronics Research Department. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan, was a managing director at Prudential Mortgage Capital, where he directed the corporation’s $1.5 billion of investments in affordable housing loans. Finally, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar — on top of his work as Colorado attorney general and a U.S. senator — was a partner in his family’s farm for over thirty years. Salazar and his wife have also owned and operated a number of small businesses, including a Dairy Queen and several radio stations.
Another three of Obama’s appointees — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Agriculture Secretary Thomas Vilsack and Commerce Secretary Gary Locke — all spent part of their careers working as lawyers. And Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner worked as a consultant at Kissinger Associates, a firm that advises international companies on economic and political conditions abroad.
By this count, seven out of these nine Obama appointees (or 78 percent) do have private-sector experience. Gingrich was only off by about 70 percentage points”
http://www.salon.com/2009/12/07/obama_cabinet...
Politifact: We rate this claim false
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/...
Oh wow, so it is 20%. That is still the lowest in over a century!
Oh, I do not consider working for a "law firm" to be working in the private sector. Now, if as a lawyer they worked for, let's say, Ford Motor Company, State Fram Insuance Co. or DOW Chemical, that would be different. But working for a law firm who only makes money for individuals is not really working with companies that make things of provide real services.

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#165987 Jul 31, 2013
Oh, my daughter is the officer manager for an OBGYN. The company is owned but one doctor who has one assistant doctor. He RUNS the business and she is just the EMPLOYEE.
Now he will probably retire and sell his practice and whether or not he will sell to his assistant doctor I do not know.
Oh, she is a black doctor and some of their patients do not want to be seen by her. My daughter and her have covered the subject with the new doctor and my daughter handles it the best she can.
But my daughter did keep her dog for a week while she went on vacation. Nice dog. Got along real well with my dogs.
I can walk three dogs at the same time but not four so my grandson had to walk his and the guest dog while I walked my two Chihuahuas.
Oh, the guest dog is a long haired Dachshund and my daughter has a German Spitz. They got along well for the week I was there.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165988 Jul 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Oh wow, so it is 20%. That is still the lowest in over a century!
Oh, I do not consider working for a "law firm" to be working in the private sector. Now, if as a lawyer they worked for, let's say, Ford Motor Company, State Fram Insuance Co. or DOW Chemical, that would be different. But working for a law firm who only makes money for individuals is not really working with companies that make things of provide real services.
I believe the number was 33 percent if you don't count law firms.

Law firms aren't private sector? OReaLY? I wonder if whoever compiled your bogus chart knew that. I'm betting that they included lawyers in Bush's lofty percentages.(But then facts would only cloud your rant)

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#165989 Jul 31, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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I believe the number was 33 percent if you don't count law firms.
Law firms aren't private sector? OReaLY? I wonder if whoever compiled your bogus chart knew that. I'm betting that they included lawyers in Bush's lofty percentages.(But then facts would only cloud your rant)
Tell us, did Hillary ever run any law firm? Make a payroll? Hire and fire employees? Sorry, maybe technically she was IN the private sector but that was about it!
That is like claiming an Army Private was some sort of a military leader.
Like I said, my daughter is the office manager of an OBGYN clinic OWNED by one doctor who has one assistant doctor. He OWNS the practice, hires and fires, makes payroll, pays bills, etc. and he also pays the other doctor. Maybe in a few years she will buy out the practice but for now, she is just another employee.

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#165990 Jul 31, 2013
Oh, for the past three years my grandson was in Junior High School, which was 50/50 White/Black, but the basket ball team was all black with the exception of my grandson. This last year they did have two white boys on the otherwise all back team.
This year he will be in High School and he has not decided if he should try out but if he doesn't, it will not because of the low number of white kids on the team.
And he did take a black girl to the JH dance in June. I raised my daughter to be racially neutral and she has raised her two kids the same way.

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#165991 Jul 31, 2013
I am a little surprised that the Dems and Repubs are thinking about the same on this issue.
I do not think he is a traitor but he has committed crimes and should be punished ..... if we can get our hands on him.
He could have blown his whistle without releasing files and methods.

Snowden Is No Traitor: 55% to 34%
Posted on July 31, 2013

American voters say 55 – 34 percent that Edward Snowden is a whistle-blower, rather than a traitor, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.
In a massive shift in attitudes, voters say 45 – 40 percent of the government’s anti-terrorism efforts go too far in restricting civil liberties, a reversal from a January 14, 2010 survey, by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University when voters said 63 – 25 percent that such activities didn’t go far enough to adequately protect the country.
Almost every party, gender, income, education, age and income group regards Snowden as a whistle-blower rather than a traitor. The lone exception is black voters, with 43 percent calling him a traitor and 42 percent calling him a whistle-blower.
There is a gender gap on counter-terrorism efforts as men say 54 – 34 percent they have gone too far and women say 47 – 36 percent they have not gone far enough. There is little difference among Democrats and Republicans who are about evenly divided. Independent voters say 49 – 36 percent that counter-terrorism measures have gone too far.
Some of the largest growth in those concerned about the threat to civil liberties is among men and Republicans, groups historically more likely to be supportive of governmental anti-terrorism efforts.
“The massive swing in public opinion about civil liberties and governmental anti-terrorism efforts, and the public view that Edward Snowden is more whistle-blower than traitor are the public reaction and apparent shock at the extent to which the government has gone in trying to prevent future terrorist incidents,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
“The fact that there is little difference now along party lines about the overall anti- terrorism effort and civil liberties, and about Snowden, is in itself unusual in a country sharply divided along political lines about almost everything. Moreover, the verdict that Snowden is not a traitor goes against almost the unified view of the nation’s political establishment.”
When Quinnipiac University asked voters in January, 2010, whether they thought the government had gone too far restricting civil liberties or not gone far enough to protect the country, not more than 35 percent of any demographic group thought it had gone too far. Then, Republicans said not far enough 72 – 17 percent; today GOP voters say not far enough 46 – 41 percent. Democrats went from not far enough 57 – 29 percent to too far 43 – 42 percent. Men went from 61 – 28 percent not far enough to 54 – 34 percent too far. Women went from 64 – 22 not far enough to 47 – 36 percent not far enough.
“The change in public attitudes has been extraordinary, almost across the board and obviously not just related to the revelation of the phone-scanning program, given all that has transpired since 2010,” said Brown.“Yet it would be naive to see these numbers as anything but evidence of a rethinking by the public about the tradeoffs between security and freedom.”

Read more: http://teapartyeconomist.com/2013/07/31/snowd...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165992 Jul 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Tell us, did Hillary ever run any law firm? Make a payroll? Hire and fire employees? Sorry, maybe technically she was IN the private sector but that was about it!
That is like claiming an Army Private was some sort of a military leader.
Like I said, my daughter is the office manager of an OBGYN clinic OWNED by one doctor who has one assistant doctor. He OWNS the practice, hires and fires, makes payroll, pays bills, etc. and he also pays the other doctor. Maybe in a few years she will buy out the practice but for now, she is just another employee.
Tell us. Did Bush's numbers from your bogus chart include any attorneys that "just worked for a law firm"?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165993 Jul 31, 2013
By the way Rouge. Hillary was a partner in a law firm (i.e. one of the owners). Or does it only count if she was sole proprietor?

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#165994 Jul 31, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Another Nazi far-right-wing source, dailycaller.com . Need I say more?
The Daily Caller
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The Daily Caller
Type
Online news site
Format
Website
Editor-in-chief
Tucker Carlson
Founded
2010
Headquarters
Washington, D.C.
Official website
dailycaller.com
The Daily Caller is a news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States. Founded by libertarian conservative political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney, The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010. In late 2012, it was reported that the site had quadrupled its page view and total audience and had become profitable without ever buying an advertisement for itself.[1]
Yes, "former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney". Oh boy!
So you are upset that Tucker was a former adviser to Dick Cheney? You need to get over your hatred of Cheney!

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#165995 Jul 31, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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I believe the number was 33 percent if you don't count law firms.
Law firms aren't private sector? OReaLY? I wonder if whoever compiled your bogus chart knew that. I'm betting that they included lawyers in Bush's lofty percentages.(But then facts would only cloud your rant)
You "believe" does not mean it is fact. Oh, Forbes compiled that so go complain to them!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165996 Jul 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>You "believe" does not mean it is fact. Oh, Forbes compiled that so go complain to them!
Why? You rely on it for your rant even though you know it is bogus. If rather laugh at you.

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#165997 Jul 31, 2013
Sorry Libtards, Obama has the worst private sector to academic ratios in the past hundred odd years!!!

Obama's Business Blind Spot
Michael Cembalest 11/24/2009

...Many of these individuals started a company or ran one, with first-hand experience in hiring and firing, domestic and international competition, red tape, recessions, wars and technological change. Their industries included agribusiness, chemicals, finance, construction, communications, energy, insurance, mining, publishing, pharmaceuticals, railroads and steel; a cross-section of the American experience.[I even gave partial credit to attorneys focused on private-sector issues, although one could argue this is a completely different kettle of fish]. One thing is clear: The current administration, compared with past Democratic and Republican ones, marks a departure from the traditional reliance on a balance of public- and private-sector experiences.
It’s not a surprise that these days, private-sector engagement strikes some as pointless. The prevailing sentiment is best expressed by one of Secretary Geithner’s own deputies:“Why would we consult the very executives who got us into this mess?” and Congressman Barney Frank:“ The private sector got us into this mess. The government has to get us out of it.” To a large extent, this cynicism is a byproduct of the colossal mismanagement of many financial and automotive firms. The following chart shows the companies that lost more than their entire 2007 book value, both in absolute terms, and as a multiple of pre-crisis book value (b). This is one of the worst legacies of the crisis: a sense that the private sector is poorly managed, greedy and completely inept (c).
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/24/michael-cemb...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165998 Jul 31, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>Why? You rely on it for your rant even though you know it is bogus. If rather laugh at you.
I'd rather.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165999 Jul 31, 2013
BTW Rouge. The chart's creator claimed that attorneys counted 1/3 (Insert punch line here) So 9 cabinet members in his sample. 3 private sector plus 3 lawyers gives you 4 /9 in Nutjob math or 44,4 percent.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#166000 Jul 31, 2013
The author of the chart quoted by Beck and requoted by Southerland, Cembalest, told PolitiFact that any effort to address the topic is heavily subjective, and he expressed regret that his work had been used for political ends, saying that it was not his intention to provide fodder for bloggers and talk show hosts.

Cembalest said he has "written 250,000 words in research over the last decade, and every single thing I've ever done — except this one chart — was empirically based on data from the Federal Reserve" or another official source. "This is the one time I stepped out into making judgment calls, and I assure you I won't do it again.... The frightening thing about the Internet is that people copy one chart from what you write and then it goes viral. So I've learned a lesson here that these kinds of issues are best left addressed by the people who practice them day in and day out."

English to moron translation - your spam is bogus
American Lady

Danville, KY

#166002 Jul 31, 2013
DEVIOUS ELECTION PLOT BYPASSES CONSTITUTION
Strategy takes 36 states out of voting decision

The National Popular Vote effort, which could see only 14 states – those with the largest populations – decide the presidency for voters in all 50 states, is fully partnered with a George Soros-funded election group.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/devious-election-p...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#166003 Jul 31, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Another Nazi far-right-wing source, dailycaller.com . Need I say more?
The Daily Caller
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
The Daily Caller
Type
Online news site
Format
Website
Editor-in-chief
Tucker Carlson
Founded
2010
Headquarters
Washington, D.C.
Official website
dailycaller.com
The Daily Caller is a news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States. Founded by libertarian conservative political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney, The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010. In late 2012, it was reported that the site had quadrupled its page view and total audience and had become profitable without ever buying an advertisement for itself.[1]
Yes, "former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney". Oh boy!
Thank you for supporting big oil, Twink. We do appreciate it! L-M-A-O!

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166004 Jul 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, my daughter is the officer manager for an OBGYN. The company is owned but one doctor who has one assistant doctor. He RUNS the business and she is just the EMPLOYEE.
Now he will probably retire and sell his practice and whether or not he will sell to his assistant doctor I do not know.
Oh, she is a black doctor and some of their patients do not want to be seen by her. My daughter and her have covered the subject with the new doctor and my daughter handles it the best she can.
But my daughter did keep her dog for a week while she went on vacation. Nice dog. Got along real well with my dogs.
I can walk three dogs at the same time but not four so my grandson had to walk his and the guest dog while I walked my two Chihuahuas.
Oh, the guest dog is a long haired Dachshund and my daughter has a German Spitz. They got along well for the week I was there.
?!?!?!?!?!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166005 Jul 31, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Thank you for supporting big oil, Twink. We do appreciate it! L-M-A-O!
Fools who are conscious of their condition will lay low.

Obviously, you aren't aware of YOUR condition.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#166006 Jul 31, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
BTW Rouge. The chart's creator claimed that attorneys counted 1/3 (Insert punch line here) So 9 cabinet members in his sample. 3 private sector plus 3 lawyers gives you 4 /9 in Nutjob math or 44,4 percent.
Rogue also refuses to acknowledge that the presidents with the most business people on staff had the worst economic records -hmm, Reagan, GHB, GWB. He forgot Hoover. Wonder how many HE had?

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