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#165937 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Can't reply now, except to ask, why the gap in life expectancy? With Canada, it's 3 years. other nations up to 6. Go ahead.
Now, would the above statistics only include people who have been treated, that is, covered by insurance? Cuba, incidentally, just caught up with the U.S. in life expectancy years.
That's funny is that WHITE Americans have over one year more life expectancy than Canadians do. And when you consider that black males are five times more likely to be murdered than white males, that is easy to understand.
If we can get blacks to stop killing other blacks, our life expectancy will be right up there.
That's not a racist statement unless you consider FACTS to be racist!
Nah

Russia

#165938 Jul 30, 2013
Impeachment is due

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#165939 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Gee, waited and waited for it, for NRA fans and penis proxy gun owners to talk about the latest Florida killing spree. 6 dead + 1 suicide. Gee, wonder where and how he got his gun? Aren't they wonderful? You don't like someone, you want to get even with the world, why, just go to your friendly gun dealer, oh, I know, you'll have to wait 48 hours, long time, Ryan wanted to shorten that but hell, go to a gun show, driver's licence is all you need, and NO WAITING period. It's as easy as 1, 2, er, birther NRA'er now counting on fingers, and FOUR, yes, 4.
I hear the killer wanted to plead SYG as these 6 victims appeared to be threatening him, but he forgot, still had one bullet left, no one around left to kill, didn't want to waste good ammo, turned gun on himself.
Now if I were Justice ha ha LRS, I would take a lot of pleasure and glee in announcing these additional gun murders in the U.S. But nope, I don't. I don't kick my heels with pleasure when my neighbour and ally experiences that kind of tragedy. It's sad, I feel for the victims, the killer, their families, the whole country. I just hope someone will see the light, put a brake on gun killings by enacting some kind of gun control programme.
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Personally, I would use a high-powered vehicle. No reloading, no aiming, just point and floor it. With a full tank I could really take them out! We all feel for you, P-S-Y-C-H-O-P-A-T-H. Guess we should ban cars too. Oh, what about trucks? See a Dr., P-A-T-H!(seriously)
Hey Jacqueau, ya want to talk about the penis proxy black gun owners in SHITCAGO???
And there you go again with your penis analogies. And you think I have a penis problem? Mine works fine, just ask my girl friend.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#165940 Jul 30, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
And Romper decides to double down on ignorant and boring. Well, when all of the facts are lined up against you I guess Romper fables and Mommie's skirt are all you have to cling to.
Twink out somewhere else! Perhaps, down at your favorite twink bar? You speaking of facts? LMAO! You've never posted a fact in your life, twinkboy. LMAO!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165941 Jul 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%
Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18
Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
And now for the last statistic: National Health Insurance?
U.S. NO
England YES
Canada YES
Check this last set of statistics!!
Percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.
As usual, Rogue, dubious sources. No such UN org, no such magazine article, all cooked up. The statistics you supplied make no sense, else how to explain life expectancy which, for the US , is 29th out of 33 OECD counties, all of which have universal health care. And the gap between the US, Canada and UK is just too wide to be credible. Why do you do this, why do you publish propaganda garbage without even checking the real sources?

Health statistics from Investors' Business Daily

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Article from the "Investor's Business Daily." It provides some very
interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International
Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after
diagnosis:

U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment
within six months:

U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six
months:

U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in
"excellent health":

U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable
to England or Canada .

Moreover, it was Sen.. Harry Reid who said, "Elderly Americans must learn
to accept the inconveniences of old age." WELL, SHIP HIS ASS TO CANADA OR ENGLAND !(with a one way ticket)
Reply With Quote

snopes

D'oh! I think these stats are fake

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And here's why:

The Investor's Business Daily has no article with this data.

There is no such entity as the United Nation's 'International' Health Organization. Presumably the author was attempting to claim the source of the 'data' came from the U.N.'s WORLD Health Organization.

None of these statistics can be gathered from the data on the WHO's website. Especially something as specific as a hip replacement.

The data is seemingly in direct conflict with data on the WHO website/survey.

And my final reason why this must be fake...its plastered all over the right-wing blogosphere being touted as real data. It does in fact have quite a following.

The version I received from my hard right-wing grandfather in law has the reference to the Investor's Business Daily stripped out (only barely) but none of the people forwarding it on and on have bothered to notice that there is no 'International' Health Organization.

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165942 Jul 30, 2013
2.

Why do you do this,Rogue, why don't you mind being rebutted every single time and made to look like a fool? The fabricating author would have gained more credibility had he not created such a chasm between the US and Canada and UK figures. They make the UK and Canada look like have-not countries.

Life Expectancy, source, a real one, United Nations :

Canada, 82 years
UK, 80 years
USA, 79 years.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165943 Jul 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.
You know what the private business sector is; a real-life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.
T. Roosevelt.......... 38%
Taft.......... 40%
Wilson .......... 52%
Harding.......... 49%
Coolidge.......... 48%
Hoover.......... 42%
F. Roosevelt.......... 50%
Truman.......... 50%
Eisenhower.......... 57%
Kennedy.......... 30%
Johnson.......... 47%
Nixon.......... 53%
Ford.......... 42%
Carter.......... 32%
Reagan.......... 56%
GH Bush.......... 51%
Clinton .......... 39%
GW Bush.......... 55%
Obama.......... 8%
This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration. Only 8% of them have ever worked in private business!
Interesting, as your list shows and proves that the presidents with the most business people on their staffs had the worst economic records. Thanks for the numbers, showing once more that you will post anything to discredit democrats or Obama without even reading the results. Funny you don't have Hoover. Wonder how many he had?

Two long statistics you've just spontaneously and for no reason produced, and both are a pile of horse manure.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165944 Jul 30, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Personally, I would use a high-powered vehicle. No reloading, no aiming, just point and floor it. With a full tank I could really take them out! We all feel for you, P-S-Y-C-H-O-P-A-T-H. Guess we should ban cars too. Oh, what about trucks? See a Dr., P-A-T-H!(seriously)
The summum of irrelevant and ignorant responses. Sigh.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165945 Jul 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's funny is that WHITE Americans have over one year more life expectancy than Canadians do. And when you consider that black males are five times more likely to be murdered than white males, that is easy to understand.
If we can get blacks to stop killing other blacks, our life expectancy will be right up there.
That's not a racist statement unless you consider FACTS to be racist!
Another failed post exhibiting your total ignorance of population distribution. You wrote :

"That's funny is that WHITE Americans have over one year more life expectancy than Canadians do". May be true, but you pick White Americans only against the total Canadian population. You were never too good at statistics, now were you? ALL Canadians against just American whites, because you think we only have white people here? And no indigenous population either? Oh, btw, Rogue, I sure would like to have the SOURCE for that statement of yours about white Americans living longer than Canadians. At the same time, would you mind showing the comparison between white Americans only and white Canadians only? Thank you.

You're not embarrassed about being shot down twice in less than one hour? I know I would be.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165946 Jul 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Gee, waited and waited for it, for NRA fans and penis proxy gun owners to talk about the latest Florida killing spree. 6 dead + 1 suicide. Gee, wonder where and how he got his gun? Aren't they wonderful? You don't like someone, you want to get even with the world, why, just go to your friendly gun dealer, oh, I know, you'll have to wait 48 hours, long time, Ryan wanted to shorten that but hell, go to a gun show, driver's licence is all you need, and NO WAITING period. It's as easy as 1, 2, er, birther NRA'er now counting on fingers, and FOUR, yes, 4.
I hear the killer wanted to plead SYG as these 6 victims appeared to be threatening him, but he forgot, still had one bullet left, no one around left to kill, didn't want to waste good ammo, turned gun on himself.
Now if I were Justice ha ha LRS, I would take a lot of pleasure and glee in announcing these additional gun murders in the U.S. But nope, I don't. I don't kick my heels with pleasure when my neighbour and ally experiences that kind of tragedy. It's sad, I feel for the victims, the killer, their families, the whole country. I just hope someone will see the light, put a brake on gun killings by enacting some kind of gun control programme.
<quoted text>
Hey Jacqueau, ya want to talk about the penis proxy black gun owners in SHITCAGO???
And there you go again with your penis analogies. And you think I have a penis problem? Mine works fine, just ask my girl friend.
Go to Google, Rogue, LRS, and look up penis and gums.'nuff said.

And when you cannot defend your position, like the killings such as the recent one, was it Miami, 7 dead?, you refer to other examples. That "don't" make it right, Rogue. And you constantly open the door for you to be immediately stuffed, like again in this case. I advocate gun control for everyone, EVERYWEHRE, in Miami, Chicago, ALL OVER. And deaths in Chicago of blacks are just as brutal and insane as deaths of whites, but you do see a difference, as "well, it's Shitcago blacks, hey, that's nuthin'". And stop calling one of your greatest cities Shitcago. It's Chicago.

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#165947 Jul 30, 2013
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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#165948 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
The summum of irrelevant and ignorant responses. Sigh.
Your dumbazz got the point, right Path? LMAO! What will we do without cars? Hmmm.....
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#165949 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Go to Google, Rogue, LRS, and look up penis and gums.'nuff said.
And when you cannot defend your position, like the killings such as the recent one, was it Miami, 7 dead?, you refer to other examples. That "don't" make it right, Rogue. And you constantly open the door for you to be immediately stuffed, like again in this case. I advocate gun control for everyone, EVERYWEHRE, in Miami, Chicago, ALL OVER. And deaths in Chicago of blacks are just as brutal and insane as deaths of whites, but you do see a difference, as "well, it's Shitcago blacks, hey, that's nuthin'". And stop calling one of your greatest cities Shitcago. It's Chicago.
Once again for the mentally impaired, no one cares what you advocate. No one. Seek help Path! LMAO!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165950 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Another failed post exhibiting your total ignorance of population distribution. You wrote :
"That's funny is that WHITE Americans have over one year more life expectancy than Canadians do". May be true, but you pick White Americans only against the total Canadian population. You were never too good at statistics, now were you? ALL Canadians against just American whites, because you think we only have white people here? And no indigenous population either? Oh, btw, Rogue, I sure would like to have the SOURCE for that statement of yours about white Americans living longer than Canadians. At the same time, would you mind showing the comparison between white Americans only and white Canadians only? Thank you.
You're not embarrassed about being shot down twice in less than one hour? I know I would be.
No, I've been shot down before but it is funny to watch you twist and turn to try and shoot me down. That in itself is worth it!!!
But the fact of the matter is the blacks have the lowest life expectancy of any racial group and you did not mention the murder rate. Yep, blacks make up only 13% of our population yet account for over half of all those murdered of which 93% are murdered by other blacks!!! How sad is that?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165951 Jul 30, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Your dumbazz got the point, right Path? LMAO! What will we do without cars? Hmmm.....
Fool.

CARS, BUSSES, TRUCKS FIREARMS

transport people kill
transport sick people (ambulances). kill
transport goods. kill
transport all kinds of materials. kill

death, if it occurs,is not intentional kill and always intentional

Main purpose is useful, not to kill. Main purpose is to kill

Do you see the distinction, poor you?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165952 Jul 30, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Twink out somewhere else! Perhaps, down at your favorite twink bar? You speaking of facts? LMAO! You've never posted a fact in your life, twinkboy. LMAO!
You still yammering about your fable? Poor pathetic Romper

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165953 Jul 30, 2013
ok, that didn't work out too well, and Justice ha ha LRS will not be able to figure it out, So, in simple terms :

Carrs, buses, trucks will transport, transport sick people (ambulances), transport goods, transport all kinds of materials etc. Death, if it occurs, is not intentional

Fireams kill, kill, kill, kill and killing is always intentional

Main purpose of cars, trucks, buses, is useful, not to kill

Main purpose of firearms is to kill.

Do you see the distinction, poor you?

Oh, you have to pass a test to drive. What test and control for firearms whose only purpose is to...kill, not target practice.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165954 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Go to Google, Rogue, LRS, and look up penis and gums.'nuff said.
And when you cannot defend your position, like the killings such as the recent one, was it Miami, 7 dead?, you refer to other examples. That "don't" make it right, Rogue. And you constantly open the door for you to be immediately stuffed, like again in this case. I advocate gun control for everyone, EVERYWEHRE, in Miami, Chicago, ALL OVER. And deaths in Chicago of blacks are just as brutal and insane as deaths of whites, but you do see a difference, as "well, it's Shitcago blacks, hey, that's nuthin'". And stop calling one of your greatest cities Shitcago. It's Chicago.
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again for the mentally impaired, no one cares what you advocate. No one. Seek help Path! LMAO!
Hey Jaqueau, it was six victims dead and one perp dead. I don't count perps except I am glad I don't have to pay for their trials and incarceration.
But did you notice that Pedro Vargas was more than a little weird?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165955 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
Another failed post exhibiting your total ignorance of population distribution. You wrote :
"That's funny is that WHITE Americans have over one year more life expectancy than Canadians do". May be true, but you pick White Americans only against the total Canadian population. You were never too good at statistics, now were you? ALL Canadians against just American whites, because you think we only have white people here? And no indigenous population either? Oh, btw, Rogue, I sure would like to have the SOURCE for that statement of yours about white Americans living longer than Canadians. At the same time, would you mind showing the comparison between white Americans only and white Canadians only? Thank you.
You're not embarrassed about being shot down twice in less than one hour? I know I would be.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I've been shot down before but it is funny to watch you twist and turn to try and shoot me down. That in itself is worth it!!!
But the fact of the matter is the blacks have the lowest life expectancy of any racial group and you did not mention the murder rate. Yep, blacks make up only 13% of our population yet account for over half of all those murdered of which 93% are murdered by other blacks!!! How sad is that?
SHOT DOWN in flames. And I don't even get a kick out oif it, it's so easy, you shoot yourself down. Your above reply is the same repetitious attempt at diversion, and it's so blatantly childish and gauche, Rogue. You answer nothing . I asked you for your source, you who ALWAYS have a link, remember? Nothing , as you cooked this one up all by your little self. I never said blacks had the lowest life expectancy. But you just did. Too many blacks cannot afford insurance coverage (health), that's part of the reason for their low life expectancy. And the more prosperous you are, the longer you'll live, generally speaking. Even you must surely know that.

Yes, tell me where you got that statistic on American whites only vs ALL Canadians and when you have that (that'll be the day), get me the statistic on American whites vs Canadian whites only.

Embarrassed? I'd be. Third time in a little over an hour.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#165956 Jul 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Fool.
CARS, BUSSES, TRUCKS FIREARMS
transport people kill
transport sick people (ambulances). kill
transport goods. kill
transport all kinds of materials. kill
death, if it occurs,is not intentional kill and always intentional
Main purpose is useful, not to kill. Main purpose is to kill
Do you see the distinction, poor you?
Do you see the ignorance behind banning guns? Probably not. You are quick, Path!

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