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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165615 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I am aware of the Vatican banking scandals. Yes, they needed a fresher face from outside the Vatican to clean it up.
Did Pop Benedict XVI cause the problem or was he turning a bland eye to the problem?
Obama seems to be doing that on all of their phaux scandals that are going on in his administration!
Blind eye on Vatican bank scandal? No, not really? Pope John Paul II, more likely.

But blind eye to church's sexual scandals, more likely. Don't forget, Ratzinger was the head of the Congregation of the Faith, the successor to the "Holy" Inquisition and investigator of all that are deemed church crimes. While he was no pedophile and did not participate, it is highly suspected that he "buried" many of the infractions and approved transfers of pedophile priests, not even notifying the new parishes that they were inheriting dangerous sex offenders. And the whole thing was hushed up for so long...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165616 Jul 27, 2013
Nader org wrote:
<quoted text>
Read my lips Fox News lover,
The jury was allowed to consider Stand Your Ground Law because THE JUDGE PUT IT IN HER INSTRUCTIONS.
Fox News is obfuscating and telling their viewers half-truths.
Prove it!!! Yes, it does mention "he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground" however the issue was "justifiable use of deadly force," not SYG!!!!
The Zimmerman jury instructions
By Amanda Sloane, Sun July 14, 2013

The form gives jurors a detailed description of "justifiable use of deadly force," saying:

"At issue in this case is whether George Zimmerman acted in self-defense. It is a defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder, and the lesser included offense of Manslaughter, if the death of Trayvon Martin resulted from the justifiable use of deadly force.

'Deadly force' means force likely to cause death or great bodily harm.

A person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.

In deciding whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you must judge him by the circumstances by which he was surrounded at the time the force was used. The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real.

If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

In considering the issue of self-defense, you may take into account the relative physical abilities and capacities of George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.

If in your consideration of the issue of self-defense you have a reasonable doubt on the question of whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you should find George Zimmerman not guilty.

However, if from the evidence you are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman was not justified in the use of deadly force, you should find him guilty if all the elements of the charge have been proved."
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/12/georg...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165617 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, do you feel sorry for Aaron Hernandez's millions? But because Paula Deen dared to use the N-word when a black man shoved a gun her face during a bank robbery when she was a common bank teller 27 years ago, you think she is a ... racist and at the same time you do not think Trayvon Martin, when he assaulted George Zimmerman, because he was a "creepy azz cracker"???
You aren't leaning left, you have fallen on your left side and you can't get up!!! "Help me, I have fallen and I can't get up"!
I'll make it as simple as I can for you, Rogue. Read carefully :

It's ok to say to any man of any race when angry : "You bastard"

It's NOT okay, for example, to say to a black man : "You black bastard".

Get it now?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165618 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Roger Clinton = Headache!!!
From Wiki: During the campaign and subsequent administration of his half-brother President Bill Clinton, Roger was given the codename "Headache" by the Secret Service due to his knack for landing in trouble. In 2001, Roger was pardoned by President Clinton for a 1985 conviction related to cocaine for which he had served a year in jail. The pardon removed his criminal conviction from records.
People get pardoned for that kind of offense daily.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165619 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You do know that Pope Benedict XVI was put in a Concentration Camp because he would not join the Hitler Youth, don't you?!?(he turned 18 just as the war was ending) Sure it was not the same type of Concentration Camps the Jews were sent to, but it was a CC just the same.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Ratzinger was sent to a concentration camp. I do know that he did join the Hitler Youth in 1941. Did he ever leave it? Was he put in a concentration camp on account of his leaving? Please enlighten us on this, the Pope's murky past.
Like all other 13 year olds he was required to be a Nazi Youth but I do not know how many events he attended. But he was imprisoned in a work camp because he was not fully participating. I think he had gone to a seminarian school in his late teens. But even if he had, I would not have held that against him.
I have met a lot of former members of the Nazi Weimark and I never held it against him. I knew an elderly gent in Mainz and we used to walk our dogs together. One day we were on the trolley together and I offered him a coffee at the local gasthous. He had been a major in a combat engineer unit and had his hand disabled trying to defuse an American land mine.
We are all called to serve our countries and that is a duty but unless you are involved in war crimes, you are an honorable warrior!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165620 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Roger Clinton = Headache!!!
From Wiki: During the campaign and subsequent administration of his half-brother President Bill Clinton, Roger was given the codename "Headache" by the Secret Service due to his knack for landing in trouble. In 2001, Roger was pardoned by President Clinton for a 1985 conviction related to cocaine for which he had served a year in jail. The pardon removed his criminal conviction from records.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>People get pardoned for that kind of offense daily.
For being a "headache"?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165621 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, do you feel sorry for Aaron Hernandez's millions? But because Paula Deen dared to use the N-word when a black man shoved a gun her face during a bank robbery when she was a common bank teller 27 years ago, you think she is a ... racist and at the same time you do not think Trayvon Martin, when he assaulted George Zimmerman, because he was a "creepy azz cracker"???
You aren't leaning left, you have fallen on your left side and you can't get up!!! "Help me, I have fallen and I can't get up"!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll make it as simple as I can for you, Rogue. Read carefully :
It's ok to say to any man of any race when angry : "You bastard"
It's NOT okay, for example, to say to a black man : "You black bastard".
Get it now?
But it is okay to call a white person a "white bastard"??? Or a "creepy azz cracker"? If you put a gun in my face, I have no idea what I will call you but it would be justified!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165622 Jul 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Blind eye on Vatican bank scandal? No, not really? Pope John Paul II, more likely.
But blind eye to church's sexual scandals, more likely. Don't forget, Ratzinger was the head of the Congregation of the Faith, the successor to the "Holy" Inquisition and investigator of all that are deemed church crimes. While he was no pedophile and did not participate, it is highly suspected that he "buried" many of the infractions and approved transfers of pedophile priests, not even notifying the new parishes that they were inheriting dangerous sex offenders. And the whole thing was hushed up for so long...
Do you recall him going to Sicili and making an Act of Contrition? Do you know what an Act of Contrition is?
And the ONLY reason he will not make an Act of Contrition in America is because it will be used in a court of law to denote GUILT.
And that is one of the reasons why there are so many civil lawsuits in America because people are afraid that by saying they are sorry is considered to a confession.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165623 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I met a half French-half Dutch man who was imprisoned on Borneo during WWII at age 13 by the Japanese. His mother worked at the French embassy and was allowed to continue to work under the Vichy government but his father was sent to a work camp in the forests. The son was caught passing messages and was then imprisoned near his dad running errands for the Japanese.
He was given two cups of rice a day and he said he survived by planting peppers and beans (for their B1 vitamins). He also would give the peppers and beans to his dad who he saw on a regular bases.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
And why are you telling us this?
Yes, we Americans have imprisoned 13 y/o before by not for passing notes!!!
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#165624 Jul 27, 2013
Psst, SHEEPLE, the scandals are real, Obama is PHONY!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165625 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you recall him going to Sicili and making an Act of Contrition? Do you know what an Act of Contrition is?
And the ONLY reason he will not make an Act of Contrition in America is because it will be used in a court of law to denote GUILT.
And that is one of the reasons why there are so many civil lawsuits in America because people are afraid that by saying they are sorry is considered to a confession.
??????????

Like the sex scandals (pedophilia) never happened, right?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165626 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
You do know that Pope Benedict XVI was put in a Concentration Camp because he would not join the Hitler Youth, don't you?!?(he turned 18 just as the war was ending) Sure it was not the same type of Concentration Camps the Jews were sent to, but it was a CC just the same.
<quoted text>
Like all other 13 year olds he was required to be a Nazi Youth but I do not know how many events he attended. But he was imprisoned in a work camp because he was not fully participating. I think he had gone to a seminarian school in his late teens. But even if he had, I would not have held that against him.
I have met a lot of former members of the Nazi Weimark and I never held it against him. I knew an elderly gent in Mainz and we used to walk our dogs together. One day we were on the trolley together and I offered him a coffee at the local gasthous. He had been a major in a combat engineer unit and had his hand disabled trying to defuse an American land mine.
We are all called to serve our countries and that is a duty but unless you are involved in war crimes, you are an honorable warrior!
You (again) got your facts all wrong, including his being sent to a concentration camp. Nice going. As to his being q member of the Hitler youth, no one ever held that against him. He had no choice, and beside, he was all of 14 years of age.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#165627 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Now I wonder if the Martin family will try and sue George Zimmerman? Remember, all the stuff that was not allowed during the criminal trial will come out!
In a 1997 civil trial, a jury found [O.J.] Simpson liable for the wrongful death of [Ronald] Goldman and awarded $33 million (USD) in damages to the Goldman family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Goldman
Trayvon Martin's family received a wrongful death settlement April 5,from the homeowners association that commissioned the block watch.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#165628 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, do you feel sorry for Aaron Hernandez's millions? But because Paula Deen dared to use the N-word when a black man shoved a gun her face during a bank robbery when she was a common bank teller 27 years ago, you think she is a ... racist and at the same time you do not think Trayvon Martin, when he assaulted George Zimmerman, because he was a "creepy azz cracker"???
You aren't leaning left, you have fallen on your left side and you can't get up!!! "Help me, I have fallen and I can't get up"!
Rogue, you can attempt to make TM’s creepy ass cracker remark racist all you want but it will never stick. He also called Z a n****r yet that seems to always completely slip your mind.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#165629 Jul 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
??????????
Like the sex scandals (pedophilia) never happened, right?
Most of the people in this country ignore the 32 Obama scandals of just the past few years.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#165630 Jul 27, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Trayvon Martin's family received a wrongful death settlement April 5,from the homeowners association that commissioned the block watch.
You got about half of that right Frank, but the association had nothing to do with Zimmerman’s pet project.

“The president of the homeowners association for the community where the shooting took place testified that he didn't think a neighborhood watch program was needed and that Zimmerman was in charge of the community's program from the very beginning.

Donald O'Brien stressed that the homeowners association had nothing to do with the neighborhood watch program but that he did attend a meeting to start it. Residents were told to "stay away" from suspicious people and call police, O'Brien said”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/06/25...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165631 Jul 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummm, do you feel sorry for Aaron Hernandez's millions? But because Paula Deen dared to use the N-word when a black man shoved a gun her face during a bank robbery when she was a common bank teller 27 years ago, you think she is a ... racist and at the same time you do not think Trayvon Martin, when he assaulted George Zimmerman, because he was a "creepy azz cracker"???
You aren't leaning left, you have fallen on your left side and you can't get up!!! "Help me, I have fallen and I can't get up"!<quoted text>
But it is okay to call a white person a "white bastard"??? Or a "creepy azz cracker"? If you put a gun in my face, I have no idea what I will call you but it would be justified!!!
"White bastard", I suppose, is not okay, but never as bad as "black bastard" and if you don't see and understand the difference between the two, then I truly feel sorry for you.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165632 Jul 27, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Most of the people in this country ignore the 32 Obama scandals of just the past few years.
Relevance, please, with church pedophilia?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165633 Jul 27, 2013
A birther joke :

Justice ha ha LRS and Rogue "El ha ha Cid" are seated in a bar watching the 10 o'clock news.

FOXNEWS.COM BREAKING SENSATIONAL NEWS

Man is standing atop tall building, threatening to jump off.

LRS : "Rogue,$10 says he jumps"

Rogue : "You're on," and slaps his $10 on counter

Suspense ensues...man jumps, dies, leave a blob on sidewalk, FOXNEWS.COM commentator says "ewww, who's gonna clean that up - and guy was black".

Rogue loses bet, hands over his $10.

LRS, feeling contrite, says : "Naw, not fair, keep your money, I confess I saw that segment on the 6 o'clock News"

And Rogue : " Me too, but who'd have thought the idiot would jump a second time?"

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165634 Jul 27, 2013
oops, the source, my post 165633: My brother Claude who got it from his brother-in-law who got if from god knows who.

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