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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165229 Jul 22, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe this is by definition... delusional.
You need help old man.
Our planes, our missiles, our explosives delivered on our orders kill half a MILLION CHILDREN.
Rouge passes it off as someone else's fault.
And you have zero proof! I suppose Bush fixed up the chemicals Saddamn used on the Kurds? And who made the T-55 and T-72 tanks he used. How about the MiG-19s and the Mirage F-1s?
Do you know we killed 70,000+ French civilians during WWII? 30,000 just in the Normandy area! Did we target them or did they just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time?
How many lives would we have saved if we had been prepared for war in 1940 and Japan had never attacked Pearl Harbor?
How many Japanese would have died if we had not A-bombed two Japanese cities?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165230 Jul 22, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
I watched a girl in a documentary get thousands of signatures to ban dihydrogen monoxide.
She was upfront about what it was...what it did...and what we use it for.
THOUSANDS of people signed it from both political parties.
Idiots.
I bet more Democrats than Republicans signed those petitions.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#165231 Jul 22, 2013
Total bullshyt Rouge....again.

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#165233 Jul 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I ran into a 51 year old Vietnam War Vet. Well, sort of. He claimed he was. He was wearing a ball cap with Vietnam Vet. on it. Now I am no math wiz but if he was born in 1962, he would have been eleven years old when we finished pulling out of Vietnam in 1973.
So I decided to humor him so I asked him where in Vietnam he was stationed and he said up near the "Cambodian border". I asked him if he could be a little more specific but he couldn't. I then asked him what branch of service and I had to coax it out of him that he was "Army" so that now I could ask him what MOS he had and he said "what"?
At this point I decided not to embarrass him in front of his woman and told him, "Welcome back to the World" but I was not sure what world he was in.
Considering how many people hated the Vietnam War, we have four times as many people claimed to have been there than were actually there!
Sad, very sad.
A friend of mine once went to a quack who claimed to have a Ph. D. from Yale. After asking the quack a few questions in writing, I had him all tied up in knots. I reported him to the authorities and he moved out of Boston area to New Hampshire. he still quacks more than a duck today.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#165234 Jul 22, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>What is Obama hiding? What courses did Obama attend while at Occidental,at Columbia? What was his grade point average? Many people give sealed copies of their transcripts to prospective employers.
Sorry Frank, but you wouldn't qualify to shine President Obama's shoes.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#165235 Jul 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Frank, but you wouldn't qualify to shine President Obama's shoes.
Hell, you don't qualify to wipe my azz, toesap. Hey, why's that location greyed out? LMAO!!!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#165237 Jul 22, 2013
Then-Sen. Obama
co-sponsored
‘stand your ground’ law
in 2004 in Illinois

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/...
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#165238 Jul 23, 2013
Here is what we KNOW about obama:

1. his birth certificate is a rank forgery. Over 1200 tests by trained and highly experienced, court cerified law enforcement officers and trained in forensic fraud and forgery cases for decades. Multiple people, multiple countries, all have proven that obama's bc is a forgery and is a comical cut and paste fraud. Federal and state crimes, jail time and huge fines.

2. obama's selective service card is a cut and paste forgery. Numbers are reversed, numbers cut and turned upside down, missing two numbers, etc. Not one selective service number by anyone has ever looked like that one. Federal offense. Jail time and huge fines.

3. obama's social security number is confirmed stolen and has been used by obama, on the deed of his house in Chicago in 2009. The fool used it and thought he got away with something. Now confirmed, his stolen ss# is from Harrison J Bournel, born over 120 years ago, and is now dead. SS administration has the confirmation and so do the lawyers on both sides. Now in front of the Supreme Court, and submitted by the Judge hearing the case.

4. obama's birth records are not in Hawaii. No hospital in Hawaii has any record of him being born there. None. Confirmed by law enforcement.

5. obama was never in Hawaii until he was 5 years old. Until then he was in Kenya or somewhere else. Confirmed.

6. obama was born in Kenya. Confirmed. Multiple sources, including his book, his grandmother, Michelle obama, etc. He also has used 4 aliases in his lifetime. Confirmed by law enforcement. Why would he need to do that if he wasn't hiding something?

7. obama, et al, has stolen the records of his entrance into the USA for the week of arrivals from the archives. Stolen. Confirmed by law enforcement. The microfische is being with held by obama so that it can't be proven. Confirmed by law enforcement.

8. all of obama's records...college, grades, courses, attendance, applications which show him as a foreign student, hidden from the public.

9. obama was never vetted before Congress. Admitted to by Congress. Well reported.

10. obama continues to hide, lie and spend millions to keep his records from being seen for fear of being arrested and impeached.

I could go on and on but there is no need to. His actions speak for themselves, and his records prove the unthinkable...that he is a fraud and a forger of the biggest crime in history. The one thing that nails him beyond all else was the use of the the stolen SS# and the guy's name that is dead on his house purchase in 2009. Beyond any doubt, this nails him and there is no way out of this one. He even signed it in with his own hand, and was notarized at the time, and the records are recorded as all real estate purchases are. Dumb!

Yep...."birthers" as you call them to try and marginalize them, are smart people. They have the evidence and it is incontrovertible. His signature is all over it. And this is confirmed now by countries all over the world through their own "CIA". Russia and England both confirmed it right away.

If his other records ever surface, he is done for. As this slowly winds its way through the courts, and the real obama is revealed, it will exactly match with all of his fraud like the IRS, wiretapping, etc.

Of course, maybe people like yourself and Bill Maher know "more" than the rest of the world's forensic and trained law enforcement officers, and other countries experts. Yep I am sure that is it. You vs them. A real no-brainer!

Desperate people resort to nonsense like you post in here every single day. Of course, that is your job, OBOT. We get that.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165241 Jul 23, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>El Cid wrote:
When is the last time Detroit had a non-Democrat mayor/city government? I think I more than made my point!!!

Whose da moron? Da question is easy to answer. Da answer is .... January 2, 1962!!! And every mayor cents 1974 has been a BLACK Democrat.
Now, just how was Detroit's problems caused by the Republicans?
Now who said it was. Illiterate moron
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165243 Jul 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, why's that location greyed out? LMAO!!!
Maybe your monitor.(No grey out on my screen)
Grand Birther

United States

#165245 Jul 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you have zero proof! I suppose Bush fixed up the chemicals Saddamn used on the Kurds? And who made the T-55 and T-72 tanks he used. How about the MiG-19s and the Mirage F-1s?
Do you know we killed 70,000+ French civilians during WWII? 30,000 just in the Normandy area! Did we target them or did they just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time?
How many lives would we have saved if we had been prepared for war in 1940 and Japan had never attacked Pearl Harbor?
How many Japanese would have died if we had not A-bombed two Japanese cities?
LOL, Rogur Moron rambles about proof (of which there are mountains), and yet he also is certain President Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate is fake because he can't see any folds in it.

L O L O L O L

How awful and pathetic it must be to be a birther.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#165246 Jul 23, 2013
Guru wrote:
Here is what we KNOW about Ragu:

Desperate people resort to nonsense .
Confirmed

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165247 Jul 23, 2013
El Cid wrote:
El Cid wrote:
When is the last time Detroit had a non-Democrat mayor/city government? I think I more than made my point!!!
<quoted text>
Whose da moron? Da question is easy to answer. Da answer is .... January 2, 1962!!! And every mayor cents 1974 has been a BLACK Democrat.
Now, just how was Detroit's problems caused by the Republicans?
From Mont Trembland where the weather's perfect, pool is nice, food is great and even from here, I still read the same BS from you. By 1962, the rot of Detroit was well sown, finances were down already, debt was piling, jobs were being lost to suburbs and south and Republicans were in charge. Wake up, Rogue, and read.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165248 Jul 23, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
I am as much a liberal as you are homosexual.
They had all this great intel...why were we the only ones to make idiots out of ourselves?
Because these other nations knew it was 4 year old info.
In the intelligence world...might as well have been 50 years.
Everyone knows Iraq dumped their weapons program in 91.
Bush knew it too.
You wrtoe : "I am as much a liberal as you are homosexual"

Are you sure you don't want to take that back? You forget his fascination with Clinton's penis , etc

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#165249 Jul 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't it funny that the Brits, the Germans, the Russians, the Israelis and even the French agreed that Iraq had an active WMD program and all of your Democrat leaders agreed. Stop blaming Bush.
But you can't help it because you are a sick Libtard!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-b5aW08ivHUXX
It is said that Edison was the greatest of all inventors. False. You are. The greatest inventor of lies and fabrications. The French, The Germans, the Russians (Israelis, what a surprise!) did NOT agree with that premise. If so, I dare you to prove it. This is the 10th time minimum that lie of yours is refuted. Bush went on TV and admitted it was all a sham. See various youtubes of him confessing to his lie, it;s all over Google. "Mission accomplised?" I think not.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#165251 Jul 23, 2013
Guru wrote:
Here is what we KNOW about obama:
1. his birth certificate is a rank forgery. Over 1200 tests by trained and highly experienced, court cerified law enforcement officers and trained in forensic fraud and forgery cases for decades. Multiple people, multiple countries, all have proven that obama's bc is a forgery and is a comical cut and paste fraud. Federal and state crimes, jail time and huge fines.
2. obama's selective service card is a cut and paste forgery. Numbers are reversed, numbers cut and turned upside down, missing two numbers, etc. Not one selective service number by anyone has ever looked like that one. Federal offense. Jail time and huge fines.
3. obama's social security number is confirmed stolen and has been used by obama, on the deed of his house in Chicago in 2009. The fool used it and thought he got away with something. Now confirmed, his stolen ss# is from Harrison J Bournel, born over 120 years ago, and is now dead. SS administration has the confirmation and so do the lawyers on both sides. Now in front of the Supreme Court, and submitted by the Judge hearing the case.
4. obama's birth records are not in Hawaii. No hospital in Hawaii has any record of him being born there. None. Confirmed by law enforcement.
5. obama was never in Hawaii until he was 5 years old. Until then he was in Kenya or somewhere else. Confirmed.
6. obama was born in Kenya. Confirmed. Multiple sources, including his book, his grandmother, Michelle obama, etc. He also has used 4 aliases in his lifetime. Confirmed by law enforcement. Why would he need to do that if he wasn't hiding something?
7. obama, et al, has stolen the records of his entrance into the USA for the week of arrivals from the archives. Stolen. Confirmed by law enforcement. The microfische is being with held by obama so that it can't be proven. Confirmed by law enforcement.
8. all of obama's records...college, grades, courses, attendance, applications which show him as a foreign student, hidden from the public.
9. obama was never vetted before Congress. Admitted to by Congress. Well reported.
10. obama continues to hide, lie and spend millions to keep his records from being seen for fear of being arrested and impeached.
I could go on and on but there is no need to. His actions speak for themselves, and his records prove the unthinkable...that he is a fraud and a forger of the biggest crime in history. The one thing that nails him beyond all else was the use of the the stolen SS# and the guy's name that is dead on his house purchase in 2009. Beyond any doubt, this nails him and there is no way out of this one. He even signed it in with his own hand, and was notarized at the time, and the records are recorded as all real estate purchases are. Dumb!
Yep...."birthers" as you call them to try and marginalize them, are smart people. They have the evidence and it is incontrovertible. His signature is all over it. And this is confirmed now by countries all over the world through their own "CIA". Russia and England both confirmed it right away.
If his other records ever surface, he is done for. As this slowly winds its way through the courts, and the real obama is revealed, it will exactly match with all of his fraud like the IRS, wiretapping, etc.
Of course, maybe people like yourself and Bill Maher know "more" than the rest of the world's forensic and trained law enforcement officers, and other countries experts. Yep I am sure that is it. You vs them. A real no-brainer!
Desperate people resort to nonsense like you post in here every single day. Of course, that is your job, OBOT. We get that.
Re "Over 1200 tests"---YU made that up. There is no need to "marginalize" the birthers, they show that they are liars.

Oh, and BTW, there isn't even any proof that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days. I wonder why birther sites never tell their readers that?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#165252 Jul 23, 2013
Re: "Kenyan-born."

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#165253 Jul 23, 2013
Guru wrote:
Here is what we KNOW about obama:
1. his birth certificate is a rank forgery. Over 1200 tests by trained and highly experienced, court cerified law enforcement officers and trained in forensic fraud and forgery cases for decades. Multiple people, multiple countries, all have proven that obama's bc is a forgery and is a comical cut and paste fraud. Federal and state crimes, jail time and huge fines.
2. obama's selective service card is a cut and paste forgery. Numbers are reversed, numbers cut and turned upside down, missing two numbers, etc. Not one selective service number by anyone has ever looked like that one. Federal offense. Jail time and huge fines.
3. obama's social security number is confirmed stolen and has been used by obama, on the deed of his house in Chicago in 2009. The fool used it and thought he got away with something. Now confirmed, his stolen ss# is from Harrison J Bournel, born over 120 years ago, and is now dead. SS administration has the confirmation and so do the lawyers on both sides. Now in front of the Supreme Court, and submitted by the Judge hearing the case.
4. obama's birth records are not in Hawaii. No hospital in Hawaii has any record of him being born there. None. Confirmed by law enforcement.
5. obama was never in Hawaii until he was 5 years old. Until then he was in Kenya or somewhere else. Confirmed.
6. obama was born in Kenya. Confirmed. Multiple sources, including his book, his grandmother, Michelle obama, etc. He also has used 4 aliases in his lifetime. Confirmed by law enforcement. Why would he need to do that if he wasn't hiding something?
7. obama, et al, has stolen the records of his entrance into the USA for the week of arrivals from the archives. Stolen. Confirmed by law enforcement. The microfische is being with held by obama so that it can't be proven. Confirmed by law enforcement.
8. all of obama's records...college, grades, courses, attendance, applications which show him as a foreign student, hidden from the public.
9. obama was never vetted before Congress. Admitted to by Congress. Well reported.
10. obama continues to hide, lie and spend millions to keep his records from being seen for fear of being arrested and impeached.
I could go on and on but there is no need to. His actions speak for themselves, and his records prove the unthinkable...that he is a fraud and a forger of the biggest crime in history. The one thing that nails him beyond all else was the use of the the stolen SS# and the guy's name that is dead on his house purchase in 2009. Beyond any doubt, this nails him and there is no way out of this one. He even signed it in with his own hand, and was notarized at the time, and the records are recorded as all real estate purchases are. Dumb!
Yep...."birthers" as you call them to try and marginalize them, are smart people. They have the evidence and it is incontrovertible. His signature is all over it. And this is confirmed now by countries all over the world through their own "CIA". Russia and England both confirmed it right away.
If his other records ever surface, he is done for. As this slowly winds its way through the courts, and the real obama is revealed, it will exactly match with all of his fraud like the IRS, wiretapping, etc.
Of course, maybe people like yourself and Bill Maher know "more" than the rest of the world's forensic and trained law enforcement officers, and other countries experts. Yep I am sure that is it. You vs them. A real no-brainer!
Desperate people resort to nonsense like you post in here every single day. Of course, that is your job, OBOT. We get that.
Re: " Over 1200 tests by..." YOU made that up. There is no reason to "marginalize" birthers, their lies give them away.

Oh, and BTW, birther sites have not even told their readers that the is NO evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#165255 Jul 23, 2013
Continuing:

Obama's birth certificate is not forged.

Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

And it is irrational (to say the very least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.

(And the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#165256 Jul 23, 2013
Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog.

During our friendly conversation, I asked their 12 year old daughter what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President someday.

Both of her parents - liberal Democrats - were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied, "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people."

Her parents beamed with pride!

"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I said. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that!" I told her.

"What do you mean?" she replied.

So I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

Her parents aren't speaking to me any more.

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