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“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#164676 Jul 18, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever run across or witness something you could not explain, regardless of how you tried?
Yes.

What is unacceptable to my cognitive faculties is to accept magic as the answer.

For example...

A lot of primitive cultures had no idea what would cause an eclipse.

It was magic to them until proven otherwise.

A punishment from (insert deity) for (insert wrong doing) that could only be atoned for by (insert superstitious ritual).

This STILL goes on.

Look back at that piece of garbage Jerry Falwell.(May there never be another)

Hurricane Katrina was punishment from (God) for (homosexuality and general tolerance of things he doesn't like) that could be atoned for by (going back to God and sending money to the church).

Incredible incompetence on God's part being that the French Quarter was left practically untouched.

We who live in reality know why storms form. And sorcery doesn't enter into the discussion at any point.

Not being able to explain something at the time it is observed...is never cause to insert... magic, sorcery or gods.

Some people talk of miracles. It is never anything supernatural. Humans are very prone to hallucination.

---Just look at the snake handlers, those who "speak in tounges", and drink poison.

What these people don't know...

is that the last 12 verses of Mark were not in the Bible originally. There was no reunion of Christ with the disciples. They simply made it up.

(Paraphrase)
The women came to anoint Jesus but he was not there. A man in Jesus' tomb who told them he had risen. And to gather the disciples and meet Jesus in Galalee. They became afraid and told no one.

END of BOOK.

The other gospels are copies of Mark.

You can see the problem they were facing.

The result is people thinking they have magical superpowers and when one of those snakes or glasses of poison do in the faithful...

...they didn't have proper faith.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164679 Jul 18, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.
What is unacceptable to my cognitive faculties is to accept magic as the answer.
For example...
A lot of primitive cultures had no idea what would cause an eclipse.
It was magic to them until proven otherwise.
A punishment from (insert deity) for (insert wrong doing) that could only be atoned for by (insert superstitious ritual).
This STILL goes on.
Look back at that piece of garbage Jerry Falwell.(May there never be another)
Hurricane Katrina was punishment from (God) for (homosexuality and general tolerance of things he doesn't like) that could be atoned for by (going back to God and sending money to the church).
Incredible incompetence on God's part being that the French Quarter was left practically untouched.
We who live in reality know why storms form. And sorcery doesn't enter into the discussion at any point.
Not being able to explain something at the time it is observed...is never cause to insert... magic, sorcery or gods.
Some people talk of miracles. It is never anything supernatural. Humans are very prone to hallucination.
---Just look at the snake handlers, those who "speak in tounges", and drink poison.
What these people don't know...
is that the last 12 verses of Mark were not in the Bible originally. There was no reunion of Christ with the disciples. They simply made it up.
(Paraphrase)
The women came to anoint Jesus but he was not there. A man in Jesus' tomb who told them he had risen. And to gather the disciples and meet Jesus in Galalee. They became afraid and told no one.
END of BOOK.
The other gospels are copies of Mark.
You can see the problem they were facing.
The result is people thinking they have magical superpowers and when one of those snakes or glasses of poison do in the faithful...
...they didn't have proper faith.
What are you even mumbling about? Hurricane Katrina? Jerry Falwell? Stronger hairspray is recommended! I'll assume you've never experienced something you could not explain.
Kapiolani

Honolulu, HI

#164680 Jul 19, 2013
I'm just checking in because of bored curiosity, because I have a little spare time, & it's the SOS here, but Topix introduced me to Birthers, & I thank you all for the laughs. Unlike the Birthers who are mostly retirees, I don't live off a govm't check. I have a real job, that generates the $$$ for your benefits.
Rouge, when I drive past Schofield, I sometimes enjoy a laugh on your behalf. Keep it up Birthers! You have me terrified that Obama might be frog-marched out of "your" White House. LOL! I thank God that he knows who are the real Christians.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#164681 Jul 19, 2013
Are we still bitching about this? This has already been debunked. None of these accusations are true.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164682 Jul 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you even mumbling about? Hurricane Katrina? Jerry Falwell? Stronger hairspray is recommended! I'll assume you've never experienced something you could not explain.
Please cease displaying your boorish ignorance when all can see you have no come-back due to lack of ...well, everything. Your ad hominem bullying responses have their limits and they are taxing everyone's patience, including even your birther brethren like Rogue and cross-dressing Bolshevik un-American lady.

We've seen it all now, however unbelievable the ignorance and hate that you harbour. Go back to your rock, slither over, hide your shame.
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#164683 Jul 19, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing at all.
The bible promises you long life for obeying the fourth commandment.(or fifth depending on which christianity camp you are lumped into)
That is magic.
Glad to see you did not spell it like this Magick.

lol

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164684 Jul 19, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Glad to see you did not spell it like this Magick.
lol
...like Magick Johnson?
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#164685 Jul 19, 2013
yep...The \IRS scandal now reaches the white house....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...

lol...it just keeps getting better and better...!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164686 Jul 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Pretending I can't access google? Who is lying, jackfish? Public forum jackfish, don't like it, leave!
Sorry, overestimated you again. Pretending? NOT. You really don't know, do you? If you can't click, you're lost.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164687 Jul 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you even mumbling about? Hurricane Katrina? Jerry Falwell? Stronger hairspray is recommended! I'll assume you've never experienced something you could not explain.
I have. You. And yes, it's true, I admit I have a hard time explaining your ignorance.
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#164688 Jul 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I much prefer my interpretation of Carter. He was right then and even more so after GWB was declared the winner;
2. Bush passed Iraq based on lies to both Repub houses. Even many dems voted for it, were lied to, but that they believed the BS did not honour them for sure. I never did, and neither did + or - 150 out of 195 countries. Health care? Insurance companies, health care providers are lining pockets of both parties. There will never be a real universal health care plan in the US, no matter who is president and what the majority is in both houses. It's a shame because your broken-down system is the most expensive per capita in the industrialized world;
3. NAFTA was not a Clinton thing. It was all agreed to and passed before he was inaugurated. He signed it. NAFTA has so far been great for Canada, but we are starting to pay for it now, and boy, is it gonna be costly in the future;
How could I disagree, I wrote the above on ins companies before even reading your second part.
Jacques you have a preoccupation with the lesser of two evils.

That concept is what both corrupt corporate political parties Democrats and Republicans thrive on.

They use that to divide and conquer the masses.

Smaller Government does not exist in the Republican party.

Single Payer Medicare For All does not exist in the Democratic party.

Yet most of the population still believes Reagan and the Bush's are conservatives and Clinton/Obama are liberals.

We are in a war my friend and WE THE PEOPLE continue to lose while the wealthy few and Congress continue to win.

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Indiana’s Anti-Howard Zinn Witch-hunt
July 18, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/md8c4ps
Howard Zinn, author of A People’s History of the United States, one of the country’s most widely read history books, died on January 27, 2010. Shortly after, then-Governor of Indiana Mitch Daniels got on his computer and fired off an email to the state’s top education officials:“This terrible anti-American academic has finally passed away.”
But Gov. Daniels, now president of Purdue University, was not content merely to celebrate Howard Zinn’s passing. He demanded that Zinn’s work be hunted down in Indiana schools and suppressed:“The obits and commentaries mentioned his book ‘A People’s History of the United States’ is the ‘textbook of choice in high schools and colleges around the country.’ It is a truly execrable, anti-factual piece of disinformation that misstates American history on every page. Can someone assure me that is not in use anywhere in Indiana? If it is, how do we get rid of it before more young people are force-fed a totally false version of our history?”
http://zinnedproject.org/2013/07/indianas-ant...

Teaching A People’s History
http://zinnedproject.org/

“We stole the Statue of Liberty”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#164689 Jul 19, 2013
No one cares have we landed yet

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164690 Jul 19, 2013
Guru wrote:
yep...The \IRS scandal now reaches the white house....
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...
lol...it just keeps getting better and better...!
So you fancy yourself a Guru? LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). You mean like the bearded guy who sits lotus-like in a robe atop a mountain and dispenses sage advice? That is funny. Not unlike asking Moe, no, Larry, to split the atom.
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#164691 Jul 19, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
...like Magick Johnson?
LOL

He does not spell it that way!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#164692 Jul 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
I think an introduction to all major religions should be taught in schools.
Most intelligent post I've ever seen from you sir. I could not agree more
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#164693 Jul 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Regulations have choked the life out of busnesses here in the States. What damn movie are you watching?
Biggest issue most businesses face - uncertainty. Government changes the rules then changed them again before the first changes even set in. Tell me what the rules are going to be. Give me time to prepare and adjust and my business will succeed. Change the rules every 4 months and eventually I will quit trying to keep up with them
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#164694 Jul 19, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
I would rather have a bumbling dinosaur of a govt. that gets next to nothing done....
Than a govt. where everything falls into place and they can move their agendas.
How NAFTA isn't some sort of treason...I can't understand.
Bush did everything he could to make the president completely untouchable...Now, Obama has precedent and was in full sprint as he was handed the batton.
Just seems that the more they accomplish...the worse off America becomes.
These two videos proves you 100% correct.

Your statement of: Just seems that the more they accomplish...the worse off America becomes.

That is because the Republican and Democratic parties do not represent average Joe and average Jane.

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Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/ccs348

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/dfnkuu
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#164695 Jul 19, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
I think an introduction to all major religions should be taught in schools.
You can take theology in college.
The computer teaches us more than any teacher.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164696 Jul 19, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Jacques you have a preoccupation with the lesser of two evils.
That concept is what both corrupt corporate political parties Democrats and Republicans thrive on.
They use that to divide and conquer the masses.
Smaller Government does not exist in the Republican party.
Single Payer Medicare For All does not exist in the Democratic party.
Yet most of the population still believes Reagan and the Bush's are conservatives and Clinton/Obama are liberals.
We are in a war my friend and WE THE PEOPLE continue to lose while the wealthy few and Congress continue to win.
==========
Indiana’s Anti-Howard Zinn Witch-hunt
July 18, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/md8c4ps
Howard Zinn, author of A People’s History of the United States, one of the country’s most widely read history books, died on January 27, 2010. Shortly after, then-Governor of Indiana Mitch Daniels got on his computer and fired off an email to the state’s top education officials:“This terrible anti-American academic has finally passed away.”
But Gov. Daniels, now president of Purdue University, was not content merely to celebrate Howard Zinn’s passing. He demanded that Zinn’s work be hunted down in Indiana schools and suppressed:“The obits and commentaries mentioned his book ‘A People’s History of the United States’ is the ‘textbook of choice in high schools and colleges around the country.’ It is a truly execrable, anti-factual piece of disinformation that misstates American history on every page. Can someone assure me that is not in use anywhere in Indiana? If it is, how do we get rid of it before more young people are force-fed a totally false version of our history?”
http://zinnedproject.org/2013/07/indianas-ant...
Teaching A People’s History
http://zinnedproject.org/
You have no idea how your conception of how history is taught is in agreement with mine. I first learned Canadian history in Catholic French-language school. Oh boy, were the English and their allies, the Iroquois, the bad guys. Not one good thing about them. I was full of bluster against those damn redcoats and their Indian allies. Then later, I got in touch with the English version of Canadian history. Oh man, those evil Frenchmen Papist Catholics ! And their nasty allies, the Algonquins and Hurons. Needless to say, I was taken aback. With maturity came common sense, I some research, and I'm now more comfortable with what I think is the truth, gleaned through books, conversations, etc. Both sides lied of course and both sides gave what they felt was their version of the truth. Pretty much the same as in your country. One thing both sides pretty much avoided, though, was the god-awful mistreatment they heaped on the native peoples. Right up until the 1950s and oontinuing in a more subtle manner up to today. We treated (treat) our native people like sh*t, still do but assuage our guilt by throwing money at their chiefs, not the peons. We never had many black people up until the early 80s, so we treated them pretty well because their low numbers were not a threat. Now they are more numerous and we're finding out that we've been "holier than thou" when commenting on treatment of blacks by Americans. Yes, we are no better, no worse, than you guys, which is not saying much.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#164698 Jul 19, 2013
Jacques,
That was a splendid commentary. I will have to check out and read for myself 'The People's History of the United States'.

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