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El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#164256 Jul 17, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
For I was hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink.
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And Mr. Liars began to LHAO and say unto him, what a crock.
He should have asked Mohammed and he would have cut his head off to relieve his pain.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#164257 Jul 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Haven't read about it but if there are no extenuating circumstances, that ain't right. Injustice is not justice no matter how they portray it.
That’s why I linked you to the trial video excerpts Mr. Liars so you wouldn’t have to read. LOL…… Anyway the victim’s widow apparently lost her now 10 year old daughter purportedly due to prescription drug addiction.
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt...
El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#164258 Jul 17, 2013
Poppo wrote:
I noticed not a single Zimmerman defender commented on this post.
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/ca/TC6SGHF80...
Here’s a SYG case where the victim’s own 8 year old daughter testified for the defense and the shooter was still found guilty of manslaughter. Of course in this case the shooter was black and the victim white.
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt...
Dooley, a 71-year-old part-time bus driver, is on trial for aggravated manslaughter with a firearm.
Dooley got into a fight with David James over a skateboarder who was practicing on the same basketball court where James was playing with his daughter, Danielle. Dooley told the teenager skateboarder, Spencer Arthur, to get off the court.
James defended the teen, and the two men began fighting, then wrestling on the ground. Seconds later, David James was dead, shot by the 71-year-old.
Dooley says he was simply defending himself and that James, twice his size, was choking him. Dooley said he had no choice but to fire the gun that he had taken out of his right pocket.
Dooley's doctors took the stand one by one Friday morning as defense witnesses, painting a picture for the jury of a frail man with multiple physical problems, someone who would never intentionally look for a fight with a young veteran twice his size.
Danielle James told attorneys in a February hearing that her father went after Trevor Dooley, telling them that Mr. Dooley "did not want to get into a fight."
Dooley faces up to 30 years in prison if convicted.
And have you noticed he was out on appeal? Now I do not know much about this case. Maybe he had a bad trial? Maybe he had a bad lawyer? But we do know he is out of prison waiting on his appeal.
But I doubt if race played a role in this case.

Trevor Dooley's neighbors moving out
8:29 AM, Feb 12, 2013

Spring Hill, Florida - Trevor Dooley walked out of the Orient Road Jail on Monday evening calmly. A few months ago the 72 year old was convicted of manslaughter in what some have called the "skateboarder shooting."

Dooley received an eight year prison sentence for killing Valrico father David James after the two argued over a skateboarder being on a neighborhood basketball court. David James' daughter was there when the shooting happened.

A judge allowed Dooley to post bail and go free for a time due to his age and the fact that he hasn't been in trouble with the law. The bond amount is $100,000, which means Dooley had to give a bail bondsman $10,000.

Monday evening Trevor Dooley left the Orient Road cell he'd been staying at. He was escort to a GPS office where he was briefed on how the tracking device works. Then a deputy drove him to his Spring Hill home.

His wife Patricia Dooley didn't want to talk to 10 News when we walked up to the door and asked her her thoughts on her husband's release. She said, "Absolutely not. I'm sorry."

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/297704/8/Tre... --

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#164259 Jul 17, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
He should have asked Mohammed and he would have cut his head off to relieve his pain.
Spoken like someone totally unaware of one of the pillars of Islam.

3. ZAKAH (welfare contribution) is a compulsory payment from a Muslim’s annual savings. It can only be spent on helping the poor, the needy, and the oppressed, and for the general upliftment of society. Zakah is one of the fundamental principles of Islamic economy, which ensures an equitable society where everyone has a right to contribute and share.
El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#164260 Jul 17, 2013
Now this article has more but I still question it as the witness was the dead man's (please note I did not say victim as I do not know if he was) ten year old daughter and they did not mention any other witness.
And anyway, If Zimmerman had been convicted, he too would have had the right to appeal. But you did not prove that the color of his skin was the reason why he was convicted and that is race baiting!!!

'Stand Your Ground' defense denied for Trevor Dooley in 2010 death of David James in Valrico

She said she did not see Dooley’s gun until he took it out during the altercation. She also said her father was "on top" of Dooley at one point "to keep him down so he could actually get the answer" about where the sign was.

According to Florida's Stand Your Ground law enacted in 2005, a person is allowed to used deadly force if they feel bodily injury or death is imminent.

According to Monday's ruling, "...the evidence showed that Mr. James had not been threatening or aggressive in any way toward Defendant, although he did appear to be shocked, defensive, loud, upset and agitated. It was not until Defendant reached for and pulled out his weapon - indicating an intent to escalate from an argument to violence - that Mr. James exerted and used physical force against Defendant."

Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#164261 Jul 17, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
And have you noticed he was out on appeal? Now I do not know much about this case. Maybe he had a bad trial? Maybe he had a bad lawyer? But we do know he is out of prison waiting on his appeal.
But I doubt if race played a role in this case.
Trevor Dooley's neighbors moving out
8:29 AM, Feb 12, 2013
Spring Hill, Florida - Trevor Dooley walked out of the Orient Road Jail on Monday evening calmly. A few months ago the 72 year old was convicted of manslaughter in what some have called the "skateboarder shooting."
Dooley received an eight year prison sentence for killing Valrico father David James after the two argued over a skateboarder being on a neighborhood basketball court. David James' daughter was there when the shooting happened.
A judge allowed Dooley to post bail and go free for a time due to his age and the fact that he hasn't been in trouble with the law. The bond amount is $100,000, which means Dooley had to give a bail bondsman $10,000.
Monday evening Trevor Dooley left the Orient Road cell he'd been staying at. He was escort to a GPS office where he was briefed on how the tracking device works. Then a deputy drove him to his Spring Hill home.
His wife Patricia Dooley didn't want to talk to 10 News when we walked up to the door and asked her her thoughts on her husband's release. She said, "Absolutely not. I'm sorry."
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/297704/8/Tre... --
Yes I do know about the appeal Cid, it was included in every link I posted. Do you click on links at all El Cid?

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#164262 Jul 17, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Now this article has more but I still question it as the witness was the dead man's (please note I did not say victim as I do not know if he was) ten year old daughter and they did not mention any other witness.
And anyway, If Zimmerman had been convicted, he too would have had the right to appeal. But you did not prove that the color of his skin was the reason why he was convicted and that is race baiting!!!
'Stand Your Ground' defense denied for Trevor Dooley in 2010 death of David James in Valrico
She said she did not see Dooley’s gun until he took it out during the altercation. She also said her father was "on top" of Dooley at one point "to keep him down so he could actually get the answer" about where the sign was.
According to Florida's Stand Your Ground law enacted in 2005, a person is allowed to used deadly force if they feel bodily injury or death is imminent.
According to Monday's ruling, "...the evidence showed that Mr. James had not been threatening or aggressive in any way toward Defendant, although he did appear to be shocked, defensive, loud, upset and agitated. It was not until Defendant reached for and pulled out his weapon - indicating an intent to escalate from an argument to violence - that Mr. James exerted and used physical force against Defendant."
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_...
Amazing Cid! All that and had you clicked my original link you would have seen both witnesses actually testifying. Go figure!
RDW1455

Warrensburg, MO

#164263 Jul 17, 2013
Proof that should convince even the most left leaning Liberal.
From his own lips!

El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#164264 Jul 17, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
He should have asked Mohammed and he would have cut his head off to relieve his pain.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like someone totally unaware of one of the pillars of Islam.
3. ZAKAH (welfare contribution) is a compulsory payment from a Muslim’s annual savings. It can only be spent on helping the poor, the needy, and the oppressed, and for the general upliftment of society. Zakah is one of the fundamental principles of Islamic economy, which ensures an equitable society where everyone has a right to contribute and share.
How do you know I am totally unaware of the pillars of Islam? Where did Jesus a person MUST donate money? He did say they should, but I do not see where he said they MUST. Jesus believed in self determination.
Is it best to force some one to do charity or just allow they do do what charity they want to do and let God judge their hearts. And is it charity if you force someone to give money? Forcing someone to give money is a TAX, not charity.
How many welfare recipients thanks us taxpayers? Very few while most demand I give them more of the money I earned. Only in America can a person be considered to be poor and have three Obama phones!
El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#164265 Jul 17, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Now this article has more but I still question it as the witness was the dead man's (please note I did not say victim as I do not know if he was) ten year old daughter and they did not mention any other witness.
And anyway, If Zimmerman had been convicted, he too would have had the right to appeal. But you did not prove that the color of his skin was the reason why he was convicted and that is race baiting!!!
'Stand Your Ground' defense denied for Trevor Dooley in 2010 death of David James in Valrico
She said she did not see Dooley’s gun until he took it out during the altercation. She also said her father was "on top" of Dooley at one point "to keep him down so he could actually get the answer" about where the sign was.
According to Florida's Stand Your Ground law enacted in 2005, a person is allowed to used deadly force if they feel bodily injury or death is imminent.
According to Monday's ruling, "...the evidence showed that Mr. James had not been threatening or aggressive in any way toward Defendant, although he did appear to be shocked, defensive, loud, upset and agitated. It was not until Defendant reached for and pulled out his weapon - indicating an intent to escalate from an argument to violence - that Mr. James exerted and used physical force against Defendant."
Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_ ...
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Amazing Cid! All that and had you clicked my original link you would have seen both witnesses actually testifying. Go figure!
But did you read what I just wrote? I did not call the dead man a victim! Why? Because it may have been in self defence. And how credible is a ten year old daughter who is testifying about something that happened when she was seven?
I see problems with this conviction but I do not see any racial aspect. Did the bead man attack him because he was black? Or did he attack him because he banished a gun and thought he might be shot and tried to get the gun away from him.
Was Trevor on the phone talking to a police dispatcher like GZ was? A boy skateboarding in a tennis court does not seem to be as bad as someone who looks like he might be staking out a burglary.
I see a lot of unanswered questions here and I have no firm opinion. And if one has no firm opinion, there is reasonable doubt which means "Not guilty"!
Most 71 y/o men to not attack younger, more fit men. Like I said, I did not watch any of that trial so I am not in a position to judge

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164266 Jul 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, it is impossible for me to educate an Idiotard like yourself. All you are able to do is cut and paste from loony-tooney-lefty sources.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong Rogue! The reality is that it’s impossible to defend your position because your beliefs are ideological and are not based on anything real. The facts are that corporations, banks and big oil receive more welfare subsidies than the poor and your choosing to side with the greedy over the needy is simply untenable.
What kind of mean spirited bastard who lives in the richest country in the world would even suggest cutting food stamps for its poorest citizens while its richest rape pillage and walk away with ungodly fortunes?
What’s even sadder is you proclaim to be Christian when you know there is no way on earth your Christ would share your selfish self-serving beliefs.
And yes, even some big corporations are part of the 47 percenters who pay no taxes.
Tell us, do you get any tax deductions? How many tax deductions did GE get last year? I believe the IRS will not give someone a farm exemption if they decide you are really just a hobbyist.
A lot of people by a five acre lot, put up a house, garage, etc. and then put two goats on their property to claim a farm exemption. O.J. Simpson did that here in Florida which not only gave him a farm exemption but also protected more of his property from garnishment for the civil lawsuit he lost.
We have about 100 million Americans who are on food stamps. Do they all need it? Many game the system just like O.J. who put two goats on his property to claim it was a farm.
\My older brother, the dirt ball, won $25,000 but to stay on welfare he could not have that much cash so he bought things like $500 Tony Llama boots (cowboy Nikis) and all kinds of shit. He also totally rebuilt his old pickup as if he had to new of a PU, that would have been held against his welfare claim. I "think" at the time you could not own a vehicle that was worth more than about $7,000 and remain on welfare so he did major work to his old PU instead of buying a newer one.
Yes, my older brother is a leach off our society. It is surprising that he has lived to be 63 as all of us brothers and sisters thought he would have died years ago of substance abuse. But he does have a loving wife who is the best thing that ever happened to him during his adult life, I know he has lived through at least three major car wrecks in which he was probably drunk in all three. I am really glad he has not killed someone in one of those accidents. He can no longer drive because he is legally blind, thank God.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164267 Jul 17, 2013
RDW1455 wrote:
Proof that should convince even the most left leaning Liberal.
From his own lips!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =edyJ4oS8kz0XX
Don't fall for a cut and paste video. But it is funny!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164268 Jul 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Here, email Gov. Rick Scott. I have!

Rick.Scott@eog.myflorida.com
wojar

Incheon, Korea

#164269 Jul 17, 2013
B777 flight 13 hrs is not that bad. 12 hr layover at Incheon not bad either. They have free shower and free comfortable place to lie down and rest. I have not heard any news since departing flight from greater NYC. I assume impeachment has not occurred. Hee hee.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164270 Jul 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, I guess George Zimmerman is now a white-black Hispanic?
Photo of George Zimmerman’s black great grandfather
Posted on July 16, 2013
Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/07/photo-of -...
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! Whata ya know? Barack Obama’s grandfather.
http://www.google.com/imgres...
Ah, I am not the one who is claiming Obama is our first black resident, You Libtards are. I don't care about the color of his skin, You do!
My problems with Pres. Obama is his progressive agenda and that he may not be a lawful president.
El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#164271 Jul 17, 2013
wojar wrote:
B777 flight 13 hrs is not that bad. 12 hr layover at Incheon not bad either. They have free shower and free comfortable place to lie down and rest. I have not heard any news since departing flight from greater NYC. I assume impeachment has not occurred. Hee hee.
Did you travel to Moscow to talk to Ed Snowden? How's he doing? I heard someone put him up for the Nobel Peace prize. The same prize Obama was awarded just because he walked through the front door of the White House.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164272 Jul 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Everyone knows there are no gay men in Iran
Sad execution of gay men in Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you constantly telling us that there are no gay men in Iran and foisting this execution (which I decline to watch, as I don't take pleasure in that kind of gory stuff like you) on us? Do you think that anyone here beside birthers and tea partyers agree with putting gays to death?
My point being, you seem to think America is evil ..... and I totally disagree with you. Pooptard brings out the case of the 71 y/o black man convicted of manslaughter who was denied the STG defence and insists it is a RACIAL issue when all I see is a questionable conviction not based on race.
It is you Libtards that are constantly inserting race into every issue. Maybe Trayvon was profiled, not as a black person, but as a young male whom looked like he might be casing a house to burgle.
But there is evidence that Trayvon assaulted GZ because he was a "creepy azz cracker". So it is YOU Libtards who see racism where it isn't and then fail to see racism where it is!!!
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#164273 Jul 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
On second thought, I'd rather believe the birthers and tea partyers. After all, they are true patriots, would not invent such stuff and, Bob Dylan is a socialist-communist. What does HE know?
Yes Robert Zimmerman is un-American unlike Draft Dodgers like Cheney, and Limbaugh, who represent real Americans.
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#164274 Jul 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
On second thought, I'd rather believe the birthers and tea partyers. After all, they are true patriots, would not invent such stuff and, Bob Dylan is a socialist-communist. What does HE know?
A Quick Aside:

Jacques maybe you can shed some light on this, if you know.

How can an autopsy toxicology report get results so fast in Canada and here in the States takes months?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#164276 Jul 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, I guess George Zimmerman is now a white-black Hispanic?
Photo of George Zimmerman’s black great grandfather
Posted on July 16, 2013
Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/07/photo-of -...
<quoted text>
Ah, I am not the one who is claiming Obama is our first black resident, You Libtards are. I don't care about the color of his skin, You do!
My problems with Pres. Obama is his progressive agenda and that he may not be a lawful president.
About Obama, you just wrote : " I don't care about the color of his skin,"

LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). This is as incredulous as Hitler saying : "I love Jews, hey, let's make sure they are a part of the 3rd Reich government".

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