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“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#164149 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques,
If stalking were truly illegal the paparazzi would be out of business in a flash.
That's means no more People magazine for inquiring minds.
loose
Pdamerica org

Sayville, NY

#164150 Jul 16, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
But the trade unions who are forcing their companies into bankruptcy or making them move overseas, are good?
Tell us, how many people get jobs from poor people? And if we force our rich people to leave our country like is happening in Greece, Italy, Spain and France, there goes the tax base. And not tax base means ... less taxes and then the whole country goes bankrupt.
<quoted text>
Did I say that? DID I SAY IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR AMERICA? NO!!! It is over taxation and over regulation that are driving jobs overseas, not the businesses. The businesses are doing what businesses should do which is follow the money.
But people like you think that "profit" is an evil word! But what happens when the 47% of Americans who do not pay federal income taxes become the 60% who do not?!? Don't blame businesses!!!
Wall Street makes more money overseas.....

.... PERIOD.

It has nothing to do with 47% of poor people who cannot afford to pay taxes.

You continue to be an apologist for the wealthy few who own most of Washington DC.

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Once a politician leaves office they are allowed to tell the truth.

If they don't take a lobbying job on K-Street.

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They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze

Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164151 Jul 16, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
And Bernie Sanders is second to none in the Senate.
One of the few liberals in the mold of Paul Wellstone.
A Tribute to Paul Wellstone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-MjcGF1V-wMXX
Paul Wellstone probably contributed to his own death. Sure, it is probably pilot judgement but the judgement not to takeoff was probably influenced by Sen. Wellstone pressuring the pilots to go when they should not have.
I have told a few senior officers that the weather was not worth the risk and like good senior officers they accepted decision not to fly.
In the early 1970s we had pea soup fog but we still had to preflight the aircraft so I walked down the ramp with my two pilots in training when I started to chase some crows. The crows would "hop" just far enough to stay away from me.
I then walked back to my student and asked them what they learned and they said that I was crazy. To which I replied that that may be true but he crows were smart enough to know not to take off in heavy fog and if a natural born aviator knows when not to take off, maybe we non-natural aviators aught to to take the find and stay on the ground until the fog lifts.
There is a saying, there are old aviators and bold aviators but there are no old bold aviators. Paul Wellstone's pilots allowed themselves to be buffaloed into flying when the probably knew they should not have.
The same thing happened to Buddy Holly.
Pdamerica org

Sayville, NY

#164152 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
And not to mention Bloor street in Toronto and other western capital financial districts. London, Zurich, Paris, Franfkurt, Milano, Tokyo, Beijing, Singpaore, Sydney come to mind. I'm sure the big guys were deeply saddened when over 1000 women workers died in that factory collapse in Banagladesh, and a few days later, over 500 in a factory fire where exits were sealed (to keep non-unionised workers from escaping?). They were making clothes for North American, European and rich Asian countries. And oh, those rich guys, THEY DIDN'T KNOW about the workers' horrid conditions and low rates of pay, like the ones in China who committed suicide from work pressure and low wages. Child labour? How shocking blurt out the big cheezes when asked about that practice, we didn't know!!, all made by people who can't afford to buy them for themselves. And let's reap in the profits, most of which stays offshore. Why should we pay taxes on profits made from cheap labour overseas?
Yes, damn unions, says Rogue. Yes, it's their fault for asking a decent wage, a 5-day week, 2 weeks' paid vacation, a hint of sick leave, workplace safety etc. And surely, the wage difference created by unions is what drives jobs abroad...suuuuuure, Rogue, suuuuuure, like reducing wages here (already being done by exporting jobs to the southern US) will put the US on a competitive level with Bangladesh and other slave labour countries that pay $1.00 an hour.
Your Post Is All True.

Dylan had it right back in 1983 when Reagan and Bush were in the White House.

==========

Union Sundown
Well, my shoes, they come from Singapore,
My flashlight's from Taiwan,
My tablecloth's from Malaysia,
My belt buckle's from the Amazon.
You know, this shirt I wear comes from the Philippines
And the car I drive is a Chevrolet,
It was put together down in Argentina
By a guy makin' thirty cents a day.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, this silk dress is from Hong Kong
And the pearls are from Japan.
Well, the dog collar's from India
And the flower pot's from Pakistan.
All the furniture, it says "Made in Brazil"
Where a woman, she slaved for sure
Bringin' home thirty cents a day to a family of twelve,
You know, that's a lot of money to her.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, you know, lots of people complainin' that there is no work.
I say, "Why you say that for
When nothin' you got is U.S.-made?"
They don't make nothin' here no more,
You know, capitalism is above the law.
It say, "It don't count 'less it sells."
When it costs too much to build it at home
You just build it cheaper someplace else.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Well, the job that you used to have,
They gave it to somebody down in El Salvador.
The unions are big business, friend,
And they're goin' out like a dinosaur.
They used to grow food in Kansas
Now they want to grow it on the moon and eat it raw.
I can see the day coming when even your home garden
Is gonna be against the law.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Democracy don't rule the world,
You'd better get that in your head.
This world is ruled by violence
But I guess that's better left unsaid.
From Broadway to the Milky Way,
That's a lot of territory indeed
And a man's gonna do what he has to do
When he's got a hungry mouth to feed.

Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A.
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.

Copyright ©1983
http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/union-sundown

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164153 Jul 16, 2013
Politicians Killed in Aircraft Accidents and Disasters
http://politicalgraveyard.com/death/aircraft....

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164154 Jul 16, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Wall Street makes more money overseas.....
.... PERIOD.
It has nothing to do with 47% of poor people who cannot afford to pay taxes.
You continue to be an apologist for the wealthy few who own most of Washington DC.
----------
Once a politician leaves office they are allowed to tell the truth.
If they don't take a lobbying job on K-Street.
==========
They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze
Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6
Sorry, it is impossible for me to educate an Idiotard like yourself. All you are able to do is cut and paste from loony-tooney-lefty sources.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164155 Jul 16, 2013
Now normally when a pilot has a stroke, his flying carrier is OVER. Especially commercially. To fly commercially you have to have a Class-II FAA flight physical but I only maintain a Class-III as I no longer fly commercially. But I have never heard of a pilot getting his wings back after a stroke.

Former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens Plane Crash:
NTSB Report Finds No Definitive Cause
By Devin Dwyer

May 24, 2011 12:39pm
ABC News' Lisa Stark (@lisastark) reports: What caused the plane carrying former Alaska Senator Ted Stevens and eight others to crash into an Alaska mountain in August last year, killing the pilot and four passengers, and injuring the others on board? After months of extensive investigation, the National Transportation Safety Board was left with no definitive answer. The Board determined that the probable cause was ďthe pilotís temporary unresponsiveness for reasons that could not be established from the available information.Ē That says the Board did determine that there was no mechanical problem with the plane and that weather was not likely a factor in the crash. It is very rare for staff to work this exhaustively and not be able to come up with a cause, said Board Chairman Deborah Hersman. Investigators did determine that the pilot, for some unexplained reason, turned off course as he was flying the passengers to a fishing lodge. Sixty-two-year-old Theron (Terry) Smith was highly experienced and very familiar with the area he was flying in. Was Smith somehow incapacitated just prior to the crash? Investigators noted the pilot had had a stroke in 2006, and had suffered impairment after the stroke. He worked hard to recover, and was given medical clearance by the FAA to continue flying. Autopsies revealed no indication of another stroke during the accident flight but medical experts testified that some types of strokes may not have left a trace.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164156 Jul 16, 2013
truman wrote:
<quoted text>You know one of the(many)things that is morbidly facinating about Birtehrs and Teabaggers is the utter and complete lack of self Insight...
I mean they are oblivious to what their MASS rallying around such a dispicable worm like Zimmerman says about THEM and thier idealogy.
I mean is there ANYTHING Wrong Headed and Corrupt they arent instinctually drawn to with the Visceral Force of a Salmon swimming up stream to die??
Did you finish high school?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164157 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes,must be why our life expectancy is almost2 years higher.
Is it in any way possible to advance a more ill-informed and ignorant comment?
Then just keep throwing them down yer old hatch!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164158 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
P.S. Side effects include aversion to moronic boorish individuals.
Developing an allergy to one's self is one of the side effects.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164159 Jul 16, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Wall Street makes more money overseas.....
.... PERIOD.
It has nothing to do with 47% of poor people who cannot afford to pay taxes.
You continue to be an apologist for the wealthy few who own most of Washington DC.
----------
Once a politician leaves office they are allowed to tell the truth.
If they don't take a lobbying job on K-Street.
==========
They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze
Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6
Another unicorn searching for Utopia. LMAO! Unions MUST go.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164160 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Your reply is extremely irrelevant. What's new? Obesity, welfare, food stamps...you think we don't have all those things here? It's an even playing field, Rogue, except we have universal health care. Oh, btw, obesity is something you can consult your doctor about here. And it's free. Yes, you will say, we pay taxes, but it's much easier when the burden is shared amongst all working citizens.
You're the most insignificant and irrelevant chimp on this thread. Bar none. Run along foreignboi, you're reeking badly.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164161 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
And he doesn't even get paid. Rogue is a born slave, vassal, serf. Take your pick? All of the foregoing.
I do get paid off their hard work as do tens of other Americans. It is called Stocks and Bonds. They do most of the hard work but I still have to know when to hold then and when to fold them am between the two of us, I am retired comfortably.
Now, what do you have against Jimmy Buffets brother Warren?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164162 Jul 16, 2013
Hummmm, we all know how Rachel Jeantel, but how about witness #7? Well, we still don't know her name and the prosecutor would not put her on the stand but she claimed GZ assaulted Trayvon. So if she is the one and only eyewitness to the start of the assault, why did the prosecutors not put her on the witness stand?
Is it because she is loonier than Rachel Jeantel was? You do know that if there is a civil lawsuit against GZ, she will be called to testify. They will also get to use all the stuff that the judge had banded from consideration.
Again , you have zero evidence that GZ even touched Trayvon as there were no wounds to GZ's hand and no wounds on Trayvon that might have been caused by a fist!!!
Go ahead and make even bigger fools of yourselves.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#164163 Jul 16, 2013
Gum-flappers are the have-nots. That's why they just BW&M!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164164 Jul 16, 2013
Shapiro: Zimmermanís not guilty verdict shines troubling light on prosecutorís decision-making

The jury in the Trayvon Martin case on Saturday night acquitted George Zimmerman, but it should never have gotten that far. The Florida State Attorneyís Office should have dismissed their case before submitting it to the jury. Thatís what the law required.
The prosecution failed to prove the defendantís guilt by any standard of evidence. And based on the standard of probable cause, dismissing the case would have been the right thing to do.
Now, the debate begins about whether the Zimmerman case may go down as one of the most meritless and politically motivated prosecutions in history. And the fallout on the streets of America remains to be seen.
Ironically, during its own presentation, the State actually made a case for the defense.
A key witness called by the State who saw the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin surprised prosecutors when he implied that Martin was actually the attacker.
One police interrogator who was expected to implicate Zimmerman instead testified that the defendant did not appear to demonstrate ill will, hatred or spite toward the alleged victim. Ill will, hatred and spite are the elements required under Florida law to secure a second-degree murder conviction. Once prosecutors realized they couldnít prove any of those elements, they asked the judge if they could add the lesser manslaughter charge.
Jurors decided the evidence fit neither charge and declared Zimmerman not guilty.
One key police detective testified that he found Zimmermanís account of how the confrontation ensued credible.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/...
Frank

Spokane, WA

#164165 Jul 16, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
So you and the Republican party still thinks Wall Street downsizing American jobs, tax havens and slave labor overseas are all good things for Americans?
I'm sure the Multi-Millionaires on Wall Street are very appreciative of people like you fighting for them.
Every one knows that our country can not survive the radical left wing agenda supported by the Democrat party. If the Democrats have their way all working people will be paying over 75% of their earnings in taxes,so that Democrats can waste more tax dollars on frivolity.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#164166 Jul 16, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you any kin to Michele Bachmann Frank?
http://wonkette.com/522761/michele-bachman-wa...
I like Michele Bachmann very much and wish her well in her further endeavors. She has been a breath of fresh air for our entire country. Too bad there isn't many more like her in Congress.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164167 Jul 16, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Another unicorn searching for Utopia. LMAO! Unions MUST go.
On the private market, the unionists are making themselves extinct. The problem is government unionist. The Country Clubbers won't take them on. At least Reagan had the ballz to take on Patco.

The Strike That Busted Unions
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR JOSEPH A. McCARTIN: August 2, 2011

THIRTY years ago today, when he threatened to fire nearly 13,000 air traffic controllers unless they called off an illegal strike, Ronald Reagan not only transformed his presidency, but also shaped the world of the modern workplace.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/rea...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#164168 Jul 16, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue, stop defending the 1% for god's sake. Are you one of them? Why're you doing this, agitating against your own self? Even at a barely liveable wage of $15. and hour, how the hell can you compete with slave workers making $1. an hour in Asia and other developing countries? It's not taxes, it's not unions, it's the 1% greed taking advantage of poor workers in poor countries who have no choice but to work for peanuts. Look at your own navel, for heaven's sake. Become a spokesperson for the 99%, NOT the 1%.
No, and I hope I never will be. I can take care of my own home (no maids), law (no lawn service), my cars (I can drive them to a shop), my boat (ditto), my plane (ditto) and take care of my girl friend (no help needed).
I know sooner or later I will no longer be able to do most of those things but I hope no one will have to wipe my butt or feed me.

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