BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

Full story: Chicago Tribune

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
Comments
144,241 - 144,260 of 174,624 Comments Last updated 18 min ago

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163968
Jul 15, 2013
 
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record
With Long Sojourn at Ranch, President on His Way to Surpassing Reagan's Total
WACO, Tex., Aug. 2, 2005 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time. http://tinyurl.com/9cjj7
The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening for a stretch of clearing brush, visiting with family and friends, and tending to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.
The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
The above are mere facts, Pd. Birthers like Frank don't deal with facts. They prefer their demented make-believe hate phantasms. It's fuel to them, keeps them going.
Pdamerica org

Islip Terrace, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163969
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The key is the expression "same crimes".
According to the Blockburger test if the crimes for the separate prosecutions each contain an element not found in the other, then they are not treated as the same crime and therefore not barred by the double jeopardy rule.
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Are you two stupid. First, you must be tried within the jurisdiction of that court. A crime committed in Seminole County, FL must be tried in Seminole County. They must try you for all applicable crimes which means if the try you for robbing a convince store, they also have to try you for jay walking after you robbed that store. If they try you only for the robbery then can not try you at a latter date for jay walking.
Now, in a federal crime, they must try you, not necessarily in the same county, but the same federal court district. Under some circumstances that can get a change of venue but they first must prove you could not get a fair trial within your district.
Now, GZ was already investigated by the FBI for civil rights violations and was cleared. They can not reopen the investigation without new evidence, thank you big mouth Barack Obama! And considering that Angela Corey is facing prosecutorial misconduct complaint, they will have to tread water a long time.
Thanks for the schooling.

I agree with much of your post except that NO actions will be taken against Corey.

And NO more criminal charges will be taken against Zimmerman.
Pdamerica org

Islip Terrace, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163970
Jul 15, 2013
 
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Not surprising as this right wing conservative is a member of the far-right Northern League, the separatist and anti-immigration party and close Berlusconi ally - Indeed, Roberto Calderoli is vice president of the Senate and leader of the right-wing, anti-immigration Northern League party - what else can one expect from these conservatives?
For the most part conservatives are on the wrong side of history.

Although even the Tories in England love Universal Health Care.

Go Figure?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163971
Jul 15, 2013
 
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
And do not forget Centrist Corporate Democrat and NOT A LIBERAL.
Harry is a LINO.
Liberal in name only.
You have no idea what a Classic Liberal is.
Classical liberalism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government. The philosophy emerged as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization in the 19th century in Europe and the United States. It advocates civil liberties with a limited government under the rule of law, and belief in laissez-faire economic policy. Classical liberalism is built on ideas that had already arisen by the end of the 18th century, such as selected ideas of Adam Smith, John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo, stressing the belief in free market and natural law, utilitarianism, and progress. Classical liberals were more suspicious than conservatives of all but the most minimal government and, adopting Thomas Hobbes's theory of government, they believed government had been created by individuals to protect themselves from one another.
But Modern Liberals are narrow minded bigots!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163972
Jul 15, 2013
 
Oh, You and Obama are both socialists. But you are upset that Obama is not moving fast enough to take over our country.
Pdamerica org

Islip Terrace, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163973
Jul 15, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't happen very often, but Rogue's article (he didn't write it, and he supplied the link) is correct. Only we North Americans call it soccer. Everyone one else calls it football. The strange thing is we call our sport football, whereas the foot kick is only used for field goals, punts and point conversions. Yup, football it is, and the rest of the article is BS, Qatar doesn't need those tanks for 2022 - Qatar is filthy rich , money coming out of its ears, so they buy tanks and other useless stuff.
You are right on the money as usual.

I was just playing his game.

lol

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163974
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
The car was behind the thugs and so some of the bullets hit the car. Again you are using a Lame Stream Media source that is not telling the whole story.
Tell us, how long did it take for them to arrest him? If there as enough evidence at the crime scene, he would have been arrested.
Again, Angela Corey has filed a false arrest warrant. I have been watching this case from the day it broke locally and you have not!
Sorry Rouge, the "Lame Stream" media has quoted the police and the evidence from witnesses reported to the police. Rouge has cited what he has heard through rumors.

The evidence is quite clear. Dunn shot into an occupied car and killed a 17-year-old high school kid.

It's not the prosecutor's fault that witnesses say only the driver got out of the SUV to put gas in their vehicle. The identity of the prosecutor is not evidence, moron.

BTW, Dunn was arrested the next day. Duh!
wojar wrote:
"Witnesses spotted the license plate number and helped police locate Dunn."
That's right, there were witnesses, and all said only one of the kids got out of the SUV - to put gas in the SUV. http://tinyurl.com/qba27ox
And Dunn said he started firing when he was a door open (this was when he was the imaginary shotgun.)
"Unsure whether he was hearing the music, now turned back up, or if it was the teen, he heard threats against his life and then saw the boy open the door to get out of the SUV, he said."
http://tinyurl.com/q6q4es8
So he thought the music was imaginary "threats" made by a kid with an imaginary "shotgun".
And then he hallucinated that they were approaching his car. And then he shot a kid dead in a car that was PULLING AWAY.
Rougie baby, if the evil black marauders were not in the car but rather menacing him, why was the car riddled with bullets? And why was the dead kid in the car?
Duh!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163975
Jul 15, 2013
 
truman wrote:
<quoted text>I know Zimmerman is a Democrat.
That didnt stop Teabaggers from trying to turn him into some kind of Icon...which says more about THEM then it does about Zimmerman.
Though I admit it did surprise me to learn Zimmerman was a Democrat...since he didnt manage to shoot hmself in the foot instead of shooting Trayvon.
Speaking of which.....the 'truth' coming out? I suppose were supposed to beleive that YOU have some kind of 'lowdown' or 'Inside info' on Trayvon Martin?
I love how the Right Bitches about the Media Trying to turn him into a Saint...while your busy circulating filthy slander and projecting all sorts of sick Scurilous bullsh*t onto a DEAD KID you never knew.
Anti Obama Hysteria has made you mentally ill,its truly poisoning your soul.
FACT; Trayvon had missed 53 days of school that school year and it was only late February. The school he was suspended from was not HIS district's school. Do you know why he was going to a different school? Now I have not heard but I suspect he was expelled from that school to.
Fact; he had posted pictures of guns and marijuana on his Facebook page. Fact: Angela Corey fired a lawyer who lad leaked information which SHE was illegally withholding form the defense???
Pdamerica org

Islip Terrace, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163977
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, You and Obama are both socialists. But you are upset that Obama is not moving fast enough to take over our country.
You seem to be a Frank Luntz believer.

Svengali Luntz changed the wording from Estate Tax to Death Tax so people like yourself will endorse it.

It only applies to Millionaires and Billionaires.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163978
Jul 15, 2013
 
Here is a classic case of Libtardian rage. These three BLACK guys do not like this white guy's opinion, so they beat the shit out of him!!!
Black guy beats up white guy over Zimmerman verdict
Published on Jul 14, 2013
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07 ...

George Zimmerman has been acquitted of all charges. He is a free man.
One of our own reporters hit the streets last night to see what people thought of the verdict.
Violence ensued.
Our reporter approached a group of young black men, and asked them what they thought of the verdict. Soon after asking just a few questions, they decided to physically attack him.
After the incident our reporter and cameraman quickly left the scene. Thankfully, everyone is okay now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Libtards are incapable of carrying on an intellectually honest discussion without assaulting the person they disagree with.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163979
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no idea what a Classic Liberal is.
<quoted text>
But Modern Liberals are narrow minded bigots!
Oh, it's just the modern ones. The old liberals are ok? At what stage did they become narrow-minded bigots? And while we are at it, when did the party of Lincoln become extreme right-wing and pro big money/interests?
Pdamerica org

Islip Terrace, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163980
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no idea what a Classic Liberal is.
<quoted text>
But Modern Liberals are narrow minded bigots!
I am a liberal/progressive which is opposite of classic liberal.

You really need to stop listening to Rush "From Drugs" Lying Corporatist Limbaugh.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163981
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, You and Obama are both socialists. But you are upset that Obama is not moving fast enough to take over our country.
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be a Frank Luntz believer.
Svengali Luntz changed the wording from Estate Tax to Death Tax so people like yourself will endorse it.
It only applies to Millionaires and Billionaires.
Sooo, do you know how much the average family farm is worth these days?
And that money had already been taxed once before so why would you want to tax it a second time? I know, you are f-ing greedy!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163982
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
FACT; Trayvon had missed 53 days of school that school year and it was only late February. The school he was suspended from was not HIS district's school. Do you know why he was going to a different school? Now I have not heard but I suspect he was expelled from that school to.
Fact; he had posted pictures of guns and marijuana on his Facebook page. Fact: Angela Corey fired a lawyer who lad leaked information which SHE was illegally withholding form the defense???
Wow. Trayvon missed 53 school days. Smoked some marijuana. Expelled from school. Posted pictures of guns and marijuana on facebook (I thought it was ok to have a child come to school with a machine gun on his t-shirt...make up your mind, Rogue). So, Trayvon the bad boy did all this. I guess he did deserve to be killed after all. That'll teach him, bet he'll be a good boy from now on . Oops, he can't, he's dead. Clean-living gun-toting and intellectual icon Zimmerman cleaned his clock.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163983
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no idea what a Classic Liberal is.
<quoted text>
But Modern Liberals are narrow-minded bigots!
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
I am a liberal/progressive which is opposite of classic liberal.
You really need to stop listening to Rush "From Drugs" Lying Corporatist Limbaugh.
Well dah, I knew you were not a classic liberal because you are a flaming narrow-minded bigot!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163984
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell us, how long did it take for them to arrest him? If there as enough evidence at the crime scene, he would have been arrested.
Again, Angela Corey has filed a false arrest warrant. I have been watching this case from the day it broke locally and you have not!
Rouge has been following this story for how long and he still has not figured out that Dunn left the scene right after the murder? What's up with that?

Now how would the police arrest him at the scene if he wasn't there?

I'm really curious Rouge.

BYW, witnesses saw Dunn shooting into the SUV. That's called EVIDENCE.

Now where is your fantasy evidence?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163985
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Here is a classic case of Libtardian rage. These three BLACK guys do not like this white guy's opinion, so they beat the shit out of him!!!
<quoted text>
Libtards are incapable of carrying on an intellectually honest discussion without assaulting the person they disagree with.
Do you believe, as per your last posts, that f...king this and f...king that is what one would call an "intellectually-honest discussion?"

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163986
Jul 15, 2013
 
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be a Frank Luntz believer.
Svengali Luntz changed the wording from Estate Tax to Death Tax so people like yourself will endorse it.
It only applies to Millionaires and Billionaires.
Ah, when was Frank Luntz born? 1962!!! But the phase "death tax" dates back to at least 1937! So, how could Frank Luntz coin a term that is much older than he is?
Oh, who was the president in 1937? FDR.
And I suppose that you think the Affordable Care Act is actually .... affordable too! You need to take off those kaleidoscope glasses.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163987
Jul 15, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Here is a classic case of Libtardian rage. These three BLACK guys do not like this white guy's opinion, so they beat the shit out of him!!!
<quoted text>
Libtards are incapable of carrying on an intellectually honest discussion without assaulting the person they disagree with.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe, as per your last posts, that f...king this and f...king that is what one would call an "intellectually-honest discussion?"
Do you think beating the crap out of someone is engaging in an "intellectually-honest discussion?"
And I am sick and tired of you claiming that following someone is in anyway unlawful. Conversing with you is like eating a table for breakfast!
Pdamerica org

Islip Terrace, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#163988
Jul 15, 2013
 
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>That is because the mass media will not allow a conservative Republic to win the race for POTUS. The last time we had a budget surplus was after the Republicans won a lot of seats in the 1994 election. The idea of a budget surplus is a facade because in order to get a budget surplus in 1968 the government under Johnson started stealing from Social Security and using fake accounting measures to pretend like they had a surplus. Obama has been pretending every since he was first elected November 2008.
I do not think any American benefitted from the Clinton balanced budgets.

==========

MYTHS AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY Part 1.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html

MYTHS AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY Part 2.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.htm...

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

93 Users are viewing the Chicago Forum right now

Search the Chicago Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
Topix Chitown Regulars (Aug '09) 7 min RACE 97,532
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 9 min John Galt 1,079,878
Abby July 25, 2014 11 min RACE 2
Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil U... (Dec '10) 23 min Terry rigsby 48,905
Ask Amy July 25, 2014 31 min RACE 2
Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas decl... (Jan '09) 47 min TRD 67,940
Amy 7-24 1 hr Mister Tonka 24
Abby 7-24 14 hr Pippa 42
•••
•••
•••

Chicago Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Chicago People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Chicago News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Chicago
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••