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I will bet you all the tea in China that Zimmerman will NEVER EVER be prosecuted by Holder or any Federal Court.
This criminal case is forever closed.
It is highly unlikely, but he will probably go through some motions just to keep the heat on Zimmerman. The Feds do tend to be vindictive.
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It is highly unlikely, but he will probably go through some motions just to keep the heat on Zimmerman. The Feds do tend to be vindictive.
Very true, but it will be mostly for "show" going through the motions.

The Feds will not pursue this case IMO.

Maybe if this protesting in the streets gets larger Obama will come out and say the Jury Has Spoken and we shall all except it even if you disagree with it.
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Zimmerman WAIVED his right for a hearing to determine if he was immune from prosecution. Had he asserted his right for a hearing and if he prevailed in the "SYG" hearing, he would have been entitled to fees and expenses. Key word, WAIVED.
Duh!
As usual, Rouge is on the WRONG PAGE.
ROTFL

LOL

Rouge is wrong again?

What is this world coming too?

He still thinks Obamacare, Romneycare, and the Bush/Cheney Senior Citizen Prescription Drugs Bills are all liberal/progressive policies.

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Neither Pooptard or Wotard could ever answer the question, "what crime did GZ commit that started this event?". Trayvon assaulted GZ simply because he was a creepy cracker, and nothing more. Trayvon never would have been shot if it were not for that but Libtards think they have the right to assault people simply because they want to.
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Trent Lott, Ronald Reagan and Republican Racism
Dec. 14, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/d9w75
Southern Strategy: The race question has haunted Reagan and the GOP for decades
The same could be said, of course, about such Republican heroes as, Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon or George Bush the elder, all of whom used coded racial messages to lure disaffected blue collar and Southern white voters away from the Democrats. Yet it's with Reagan, who set a standard for exploiting white anger and resentment rarely seen since George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door, that the Republican's selective memory about its race-baiting habit really stands out.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...
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No tears for Reagan
June 8, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/558r6l
Excuse me if I don’t shed any tears over the passing of former President Ronald Reagan. While the news of the 40th president’s death brought on a flood of sentimentality over the nation’s media this past weekend, I could not help but recall what the Reagan presidency really meant for Black Americans. Similar to what occurred upon the death of Richard Nixon, amnesia has set upon journalists as they recall Reagan’s era; choosing to indulge in idol worship rather than serious reflection on the former president’s policies.
http://www.blackamericatoday.com/article.cfm...
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Ronald Reagan: The Great White Redeemer
http://tinyurl.com/6jljhm / June 10 2004
Only 12 years elapsed between the glorious military victory over the Confederate Slave States in 1865 and the definitive defeat of Reconstruction in 1877. In many important respects, the Reconstruction period was even briefer than that. By 1870, when the last of the southern states ratified the 15th Amendment to the Constitution, Tennessee had already rejected biracial democracy and installed an all-white “Redeemer” government.“Redemption” then swept through Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/94/94_cover_r...
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Reagan's heart of darkness
June 9, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/28ytj
PRESIDENT Bush proclaimed: "Ronald Reagan believed that God takes the side of justice and that America has a special calling to oppose tyranny and defend freedom." In the first three days of news reports on the death of the former president, not a single major American newspaper, television station, or politician has dared to exhume this counterpoint to the Reagan's legacy: "Immoral, evil, and totally un-Christian."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...
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Reagan, White As Snow
http://tinyurl.com/6lujee
Last week, as we’ve heard, the Republican presidential candidates praised the name and heritage of Ronald Reagan 40 times during the televised Show and Tell at the Reagan Presidential Library. That none of them mentioned Reagan’s legacy of white supremacy and support for apartheid is a little like invoking Jefferson Davis and not mentioning treason or slavery. Actually, a lot like it.
Ronald Reagan was a white supremacist to his very core, and left enough traces over his lengthy political career so that it’s evident for anyone who cares to look—which apparently few do.
Domestically, he opposed every legislative remedy for African Americans, betraying a meanness of spirit and an open racism. As Sidney Blumenthal wrote in The Guardian in 2003:/ http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/05/08/r...
Whaz da matta dar Tootzie, Two afraid to answer the question?

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Zimmerman WAIVED his right for a hearing to determine if he was immune from prosecution. Had he asserted his right for a hearing and if he prevailed in the "SYG" hearing, he would have been entitled to fees and expenses. Key word, WAIVED.
Duh!
As usual, Rouge is on the WRONG PAGE.
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ROTFL
LOL
Rouge is wrong again?
What is this world coming too?
He still thinks Obamacare, Romneycare, and the Bush/Cheney Senior Citizen Prescription Drugs Bills are all liberal/progressive policies.
And the jury says you are both Idiotards.

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I will bet you all the tea in China that Zimmerman will NEVER EVER be prosecuted by Holder or any Federal Court.
This criminal case is forever closed.
I would not put anything past Holder or Obama for that matter. But the more they do their thing, the more racist they appear.

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Let this be a lesson to all you criminal thug racists going around racially profiling "creepy-ass-crackers ".
We will stand our ground and we will use lethal force to protect life and property against you thugs.
Justice has been served!!
Having "wisdom is a gift" motto under your misnomer "Falconer" is as ludicrous as Hitler having "I love all Jews" written under his name.

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Here is another classic difference between Liberals and Conservatives. Conservatives are not celebrating the acquittal of George Zimmerman as they know that someone died. But in the case of O.J. Simpson, many of the jurist when out and partied! Partied because a WHITE woman and a white man had been murdered!!!
Ron Goldman and Nichole Simpson did not attack O.J.!!! But Trayvon attacked George Zimmerman .... because he was a creepy cracker and nothing more.
You obviously have not read your bosom buddy's posts , or that incredible AL one. And it's just starting. I predicted he'd walk. He did. Carry on.

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Re: "I still don't think that wearing a t shirt showing Hitler goose-stepping with a swastika in the background and a rejoicing scene of Jews being marched to the gas chamber would be allowed in public, and much less in school, in the workplace or in church. "
I disagree about a public place. A school presents fine issues about the age of the students who are at that particular school. At a public state university, I disagree, since the students are old enough to absorb the content and deal with it rationally. Workplaces and churches are PRIVATE, and their owners (and churches have legal owners, their trustees) have the right to decide that matter.
So the issue boils down to whether or not it should be allowed in a public place such as a street or public university. And, in my opinion, not only would it be allowed but that it should be allowed, and---as much as I hate Nazis--I think that it should be allowed. It is political speech, and people should have the right to make even shocking and immoral political speeches (unless there is actual danger of violence being caused by the speech and that reasonable and prudent police action cannot protect against that violence---which is where the "no right to cry fire in a public theater analogy comes from).
In principle we should be as far as possible from dictatorial systems, and if that means allowing people to wear Nazi t-shirts in public places, so be it.
But you are quite right that speech is not unfettered. Schools for example would have every right to keep Nazi t-shirts out if kids of 4 or 8 or 12 or 16-years old are involved. Courts have to make such fine distinctions. Or, they may have to decide whether or not there was real danger of a riot. But in principle even shocking and immoral political speech should be allowed.
Pornography is different. There is no right to wear a t-shirt depicting the sex act CURRENTLY, but there may well be in 50 or 100 years.
Well, if I had a choice, or rather, if I were FORCED to make a choice,(this is all rhetorical) between my child wearing a porn-emblazoned t-shirt and one with Hitler and a Swastika, I'd unhesitatingly choose the porn one. Both are unacceptable, of course, but the latter is not as bad and harmful as the former. BTW, I agree, in the extreme, that even Hitler on t-shirts is allowed under the 1st amendment, or my Constitution, but Jews marching to the ovens on a t-shirt, either at school, university or on the streets is a hate crime and I'd be surprised it would be tolerated, here or in the US.

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Zimmerman WAIVED his right for a hearing to determine if he was immune from prosecution. Had he asserted his right for a hearing and if he prevailed in the "SYG" hearing, he would have been entitled to fees and expenses. Key word, WAIVED.
Duh!
As usual, Rouge is on the WRONG PAGE.<quoted text>
And the jury says you are both Idiotards.
The jury has nothing to do with immunity from prosecution.

RU on drugs?

Similarly, GZ cannot recover fees and expenses under 776.32.

By waiving his right for a pretrial hearing to determine immunity, and recover fees and expenses he OPTED FOR A TRIAL. It's too late for a hearing for immunity from prosecution after the fact.

What planet RU from?

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Texas Republicans finally pass new abortion limits
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP)— Republican lawmakers in Texas passed a bill that would give the state some of the nation's most restrictive abortion laws and force most of its clinics to close, leading Democrats to promise a fight over the contentious measure in the courts and at the ballot box.
More than 2,000 demonstrators filled the Capitol building in Austin to voice their opposition to the bill, including six protesters who were dragged out of the Senate chamber by state troopers for trying to disrupt the debate. The Republican majority passed the bill unchanged late Friday — just before midnight — with all but one Democrat voting against it.
"Today the Texas Legislature took its final step in our historic effort to protect life," said Gov. Rick Perry, who will sign the bill into law in the next few days. "This legislation builds on the strong and unwavering commitment we have made to defend life and protect women's health."
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-final...
You wrote : "Today the Texas Legislature took its final step in our historic effort to protect life," said Gov. Rick Perry"

You ARE a birfoon buffoon birther. Protect life? How many executions has Perry approved since his election? Explain how that is protecting life. Did God not create that life, even the killer's, and is Perry sanctioned by God to end it?** Did any of those executions include mentally-deficient prisoners? "Thou shalt not kill" is such a convenient motto when it comes to abortion, even though no doctor or scientist has yet established when there is life. The clueless church even thought, up to the 1950s , that sperm alone was life. It's why masturbation was deemed wasting a human life. Where is the exception to the "golden rule" of "Thou shalt not kill" when it involves the state putting someone to death?

** Oh, I forgot. He was, along with his wife, TOLD to seek the presidency. I suppose that means he was also told to put prisoners to death. My bad.

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The jury has spoken.
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Anytime you armchair quarterbacks have a question or concern about the medical profession you would be wise to come and ask for my advice before making speculative assumptions about something which you know little about.
loose
No medical questions necessary. I said he'd walk, remember? He did. Life goes on.
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You obviously have not read your bosom buddy's posts , or that incredible AL one. And it's just starting. I predicted he'd walk. He did. Carry on.
And which posts might you be referring to? Sorry but I don't recall you saying he would walk. Not saying you didn't, just that I don't remember it. Care to post it?
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The jury has nothing to do with immunity from prosecution.
RU on drugs?
Similarly, GZ cannot recover fees and expenses under 776.32.
By waiving his right for a pretrial hearing to determine immunity, and recover fees and expenses he OPTED FOR A TRIAL. It's too late for a hearing for immunity from prosecution after the fact.
What planet RU from?
Just let it go, toesap. I bet you've been seen arguing with a tree, haven't you?
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Zimmerman attorney calls media 'mad scientists'

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

He 'is' right!
In more ways than one!
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From Robert Zimmerman – George’s Dad
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I have thanked Mark Omara and Don West. Now I would like to extend
our heartfelt appreciation to you, our friends at CTH.(Waving to others)

Currently, our family is happy knowing our son no longer faces a malicious,
unethical prosecution. Further, to whatever extent possible, I will attempt to
hold every individual fully responsible for their actions.

Again, Thank You.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/1...

Sentenza says:
July 14, 2013 at 2:35 am
Mr. and Mrs. Zimmerman,

You have done a great job in raising George to be an honorable member of society. I would be honored to call him a friend. I would still be honored to call him a friend. You have done an excellent job raising George, and it seems as though he’s turned out how Proverbs 22:6 promises.

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The USSC has already ruled on this issue. Get over it!
Wearing a t-shirt with Hitler and Jews praising him would be clearly "disruptive" to the school but wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Hitler and a swastika would be no more disruptive than one with some of your heroes like Castro, Che, Marx, Mao, etc. on it.
Hitler unleashed a world war. 50 million killed, almost 7 million Jews and other "lesser" ethnics executed like animals;

Marx : didn't wound, torture, maim or kill anyone as far as I know. If he did, please so indicate;

Mao : the S.O.B. surpassed Hitler as a killer and history shows him closing in on...

...Stalin : the biggest murderer of them all, so big, scholars don't know exactly how many he killed.

You compare Che and Castro with these mass murderers? What war did Che and Castro start? How many millions did they kill? And, who is this man Batista they toppled? Have you read about Batista? Yes, Che and Castro had foes executed and dissidents incarcerated,(the regime still has some in prison to this day) and that was intolerable and wrong. And although their reprisals by execution and imprisonment are, I repeat, wrong wrong wrong , one must not neglect the positive effects of Batista's overthrow and the ensuing changes that took place in Cuba for 9 or 10 years after 1960. From about 1970, the whole thing of course became a sham. I've known Cuba before and after Castro. No paradise today, for sure, but much better than pre-1960. But it's time to restore democracy, high time, should've been done 35 years ago. I would not wear a Castro t-shirt, no, but a Che one? Why not?
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You wrote : "Today the Texas Legislature took its final step in our historic effort to protect life," said Gov. Rick Perry"
You ARE a birfoon buffoon birther. Protect life? How many executions has Perry approved since his election? Explain how that is protecting life. Did God not create that life, even the killer's, and is Perry sanctioned by God to end it?** Did any of those executions include mentally-deficient prisoners? "Thou shalt not kill" is such a convenient motto when it comes to abortion, even though no doctor or scientist has yet established when there is life. The clueless church even thought, up to the 1950s , that sperm alone was life. It's why masturbation was deemed wasting a human life. Where is the exception to the "golden rule" of "Thou shalt not kill" when it involves the state putting someone to death?
** Oh, I forgot. He was, along with his wife, TOLD to seek the presidency. I suppose that means he was also told to put prisoners to death. My bad.
No one made these people commit the crime/s that carry the death penalty. We have civilized laws, they chose to break them. They are a danger to society. How true the old saying is; Can't do the time? Don't do the crime!

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And which posts might you be referring to? Sorry but I don't recall you saying he would walk. Not saying you didn't, just that I don't remember it. Care to post it?
Here's one :

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No, O.J. did not testify. He walked, and perhaps same as Z will. I agree with LTR, he doesn't have to, I knew that, was just posing the question rhetorically.

There's another one, in a reply to Loose

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And which posts might you be referring to? Sorry but I don't recall you saying he would walk. Not saying you didn't, just that I don't remember it. Care to post it?
I also wrote this :

Either scenario, I suppose, holds or does not hold water. Let the trial decide and quit taking sides. And like any reasonable person, accept the verdict, whatever it is, when it comes down and carry on.

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