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Since: May 10

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#163815 Jul 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
Italian senator says black minister has 'features of orangutan'
Roberto Calderoli is condemned after speech in which he also said Cécile Kyenge should work as minister 'in her country'
14 July 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/nkr5u8v
The Italian prime minister, Enrico Letta, has condemned as unacceptable comments made by a senior rightwing senator in which he suggested the country's first black government minister had "the features of an orangutan".
Cécile Kyenge, an eye surgeon who was born in the Democratic Republic of the Congo but has Italian citizenship, has faced repeated racial slurs and threats since being appointed minister for integration by Letta in April.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/14/i...
So, what does Roberto Calderoli have to do with the price of spaghetti in America? His Lega Nordm (Northern League party) has only about 5% of the seats in the Italian legislature!!!
Now, how many times have you Libtards call me a "cracker" on this forum?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#163816 Jul 14, 2013
That's right, Wojar.
I think Zimmerman followed lots of people in the past. Most of them may not have known they were being tailed. And some probably were creeped out by him but did not take a swing at the night watchman.
People get into confrontations, that is a fact of life.
Another fact of life is that when soemone takes a swing, all bets are off.
That's they way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
I'm not happy about it either.
loose

Since: May 10

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#163817 Jul 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill Clinton and all Newt Gingrich and Senator Phil Gramm Republicans destroyed America.
If they destroyed America, what is Obama the president over?
El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#163818 Jul 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is Republican proven by continuing Bush/Cheney.
Bill Clinton was a Republican proven by all Newt Gingrich Republicans voted for NAFTA, Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, 1996 Telecommunications, etc. etc. etc.
Both parties are destroying America.
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Some Republicans have been trying very hard to keep The Democrats from destroying our country. I think that more of them should be trying harder to stop the Obama agenda. It is going to take more than just a few conservatives to stop Obama from destroying our country it is going to take politicians from both parties AND it is going to take the will of the people to demand that our country can not be dominated by a few left wingers and a bias left media.
Ah, i thought bush destroyed Amerika!

Since: May 10

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#163819 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, you who speaketh to God daily. Where does it say that in the sacred texts? That the state is to take a life.
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is talking about sacred texts besides you?
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.[Matthew 22:21]
I will allow Caesar (government) to judge people when they have violated government laws and I will allow God to judge those who have violated God's law.
In God I trust, the rest pay cash!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163820 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Coming from someone who thinks walking in the same direction as someone else is a crime, I think that is funny!!!
Using Libtardian Logic, if GZ needed to be tried because a few people think he did, we should try Obama because over 100 million Americans think we should. A JURY SHOULD DECIDE because We the People demand it!!!
Umm, I said Zimmerman actions could be viewed as provocation. Nothing about Z violating statute by following.

BTW, genius, Zimmerman was tried because the prosecution cleared the probable cause hurdle. That's how it works.

Nevertheless, trial by jury is not germane to my comment, which pointed out that the jury has nothing to do with immunity under 776.032 or any reimbursement for fees and expenses related to the trial.

Zimmerman is not entitled to expenses and fees under 776.032 and the jury has nothing to do with that.

Do you think you can ever stay on point?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The jury has nothing to do with immunity from prosecution.
RU on drugs?
Similarly, GZ cannot recover fees and expenses under 776.32.
By waiving his right for a pretrial hearing to determine immunity, and recover fees and expenses he OPTED FOR A TRIAL. It's too late for a hearing for immunity from prosecution after the fact.
What planet RU from?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163821 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Read my azz hole, Hitler and the Nazis were left wing Socialist/Fascists. I know you are trying to rewrite history but it won't work with me.
Remember you seem to think Obama is some sort of conservative which mean to me you are an http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =b2pD0B9RfpsXX
First of all Rouge...socialism and fascism are pretty much exact opposites.

Where do you think the word fascist came from Rouge?

It is extreme right wing govt.

I am sure you know a word or two for extreme liberal forms of govt.

The Nazis were all about conservatism. Bringing back traditional values and restoring the greatness of Germany.

Worse...Most were confessing Catholics. The rest were prodestant and other forms of christianity.

This is textbook Right Wing Conservatism in its finest hour.

And how were they anything but just that?

Don't just get pissed and move on...like you have the last 4 times I have asked you a question.

You seem to be the only guy on Earth who doesn't accept this reality.

Please explain yourself.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163822 Jul 14, 2013
"In God I trust and the rest pay cash."

Thanks for that.

It is brilliant in a twisted sort of way.

:)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163823 Jul 14, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Mine is an open invitation for any future inquiries, that's all.
I too thought there was reasonable doubt as to what actually happened and in what order those events might have occured.
I think the jury was courageous and performed their duty admirably as was instructed by the law.
Case closed.
I agree Zimmerman was not guilty of the charges per the letter of the law but his hands are not clean. That is the shame of it.

Now what happens if Zimmerman shoots another kid?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163824 Jul 14, 2013
....and render unto Ceasar...

is Mark 12:17

not Matthew 21:21

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163825 Jul 14, 2013
ah...sorry they are the same verse

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163827 Jul 14, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>ObamaKare was never designed to lower the cost of health care. All of Obama agenda is designed to take money from the working person. There is no Obama agenda item that is good for Our Country or for We The People. Obama does not care about the people,he only cares about Obama.
That's how the Republicans designed it in the early 1990s.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163828 Jul 14, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Maybe if there are any lessons to be learned by the public from the Trayvon Martin killing, one is that if someone feels they are being stalked or followed or threatened in any manner, they should immediately get on the horn to the police and notify them that someone is making them uneasy.
There are all these what if's and should have's floating around out there, mostly around Zimmerman.
Well, what if Martin had called the police himself, which he did not.
I think they both took the law into their own hands.
I wish it had not have happened.
If a 17 year old teen in excellent shape is being followed by a fat slob, he/she should run.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163829 Jul 14, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
What's funny and more than a little sad is you probably very strongly believe all the garbage you write, Fwank.
Frank has no memory of what he writes after five minutes.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163830 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Not double jeopardy violation according to the Supreme Court.
C.f., Jerome v. United States, 318 U.S. 101,(1943)("it should be noted that the double jeopardy provision of the Fifth Amendment does not stand as a bar to federal prosecution though a state conviction based on the same acts has already been obtained. See United States v. Lanza, 260 U. S. 377; Hebert v. Louisiana, 272 U. S. 312.")
Yep, you rob a Post Office, and kill a customer while doing so, you will be tried in a FEDERAL court for the robbery and in a State court for the murder.
If a bank is FDIC insured and it is robbed, the robber is not tried in federal court of the robbery itself, but for stealing federally insured money!
Bill Clinton was not impeached for having sex with Monica but for obstruction of justice.

Since: May 10

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#163831 Jul 14, 2013
Why is Kate Middleton going to a PRIVATE facility to have her baby? Why the 99% of the Brits get third-rate medical care, the One Percenters will always get POSH treatment.
In a few years, the American 53%ers who pay taxes, will get the same health care that our military vets have been getting all along.

St Mary's Hospital, London
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The hospital site incorporates the private Lindo Wing where several celebrity and royal births have occurred.

Since: May 10

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#163832 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Frank has no memory of what he writes after five minutes.
And you do? You still haven't figured out what crime George Zimmerman committed!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163833 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, you rob a Post Office, and kill a customer while doing so, you will be tried in a FEDERAL court for the robbery and in a State court for the murder.
If a bank is FDIC insured and it is robbed, the robber is not tried in federal court of the robbery itself, but for stealing federally insured money!
Bill Clinton was not impeached for having sex with Monica but for obstruction of justice.
Anyone who grew up in the 1960s and watched agent Carl Erskine on "The FBI" on TV knows that.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Not double jeopardy violation according to the Supreme Court.
C.f., Jerome v. United States, 318 U.S. 101,(1943)("it should be noted that the double jeopardy provision of the Fifth Amendment does not stand as a bar to federal prosecution though a state conviction based on the same acts has already been obtained. See United States v. Lanza, 260 U. S. 377; Hebert v. Louisiana, 272 U. S. 312.")

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163834 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you do? You still haven't figured out what crime George Zimmerman committed!
I said Zimmerman's actions provoked Martin. Whenever Rouge sees "provoked" he hallucinates "crime".

And if Zimmerman tried to hold Martin at the scene (rather than punching), instigating the fight, he'll never tell. The fact is no one (except perhaps Zimmerman) knows what happened.

But Zimmerman's hands are not clean and I have no doubt Rouge will never comprehend why.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163835 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Not liking? I have no problem with the verdict.
BTW, I never said there was evidence of a hate crime.
What I did say was that DOJ might continue investigating making GZ's life miserable and that they can be vindictive SOBs.
Now how does that appear I don't "like" the verdict.
In fact if GZ had been found guilty and given only 10 years I would have felt sorry for the stupid schlump. He really didn't understand how inappropriate it is for a neighborhood watch volunteer to pursue fantasy suspects with a gun. He was playing cops & robbers, but Martin's only real life was ended. Martin should have avoided confrontation. He could have easily outrun Zimmerman. Martin was not without fault, but he didn't deserve to be picked on and shot dead by an adult. If Zimmerman does this again, I doubt the jury will be forgiving.
<quoted text>
Really, your reading comprehension is dismal.

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