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#163880 Jul 14, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
Cops will generally get away with shooting people.
Much like this situation...you will just never know what really happened.
If you rob a bank and the police kill 5 people chasing and shooting at you...
You now have 5 shinny new first degree murder charges to add to your bank robbery.
All to often, you are correct. Here in Florida, twice last year. police illegally entered homes without a knock, the home owner, not knowing they were police, defended himself and was killed.
Even though the police committed felonies for illegally entering a house, they were not charged in the two deaths.
Now, the most the family can do is sue the local government for wrongful death but Florida law restricts this claim to $100,000. This limit was set decades ago when $100,000 was considered a lot of money but today it is not and not enough incentive for local governments to change their ways.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163881 Jul 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is talking about sacred texts besides you?
Liar and BSer. You pick the Constitution AND the Bible apart, accept what suits you, and reject what does not. What a loser. What a 3rd-class citizen.

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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163882 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The key is the expression "same crimes".
According to the Blockburger test if the crimes for the separate prosecutions each contain an element not found in the other, then they are not treated as the same crime and therefore not barred by the double jeopardy rule.
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<quoted text>
Are you two stupid. First, you must be tried within the jurisdiction of that court. A crime committed in Seminole County, FL must be tried in Seminole County. They must try you for all applicable crimes which means if the try you for robbing a convince store, they also have to try you for jay walking after you robbed that store. If they try you only for the robbery then can not try you at a latter date for jay walking.
Now, in a federal crime, they must try you, not necessarily in the same county, but the same federal court district. Under some circumstances that can get a change of venue but they first must prove you could not get a fair trial within your district.
Now, GZ was already investigated by the FBI for civil rights violations and was cleared. They can not reopen the investigation without new evidence, thank you big mouth Barack Obama! And considering that Angela Corey is facing prosecutorial misconduct complaint, they will have to tread water a long time.
Try to never call anyone "two stupid."

It...well...defeats the purpose.

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163883 Jul 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Yes, anyone surprised that garbage Justice ha ha LRS would again come up with garbage foxnews.com

How crass, how vulgar, how unacceptable.

Since: May 10

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#163884 Jul 14, 2013
Not so in many states were there is no limit on the liabilities of local governments. In 1974 a cop in my home town stopped a car who was weaving around. The officer recognized all four young men one of which had just returned from Vietnam. He let them off with a verbal warming and they drove away only to hit a bridge. Two were killed and the other two seriously injured.
My home town was sued because the officer was obligated to remove the drunk from driving. The law did not say he had to arrest him, just that he had to prevent him from driving drunk. My hometown lost the case to the tune of Two MILLION DOLLAR$. And back in 1974 that was a lot of money. But $100,000 is far from a lot of money today here in Florida.

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#163885 Jul 14, 2013
If this is so impossible, then how come when OJ walked he was buried in civil suits?(pretty sure he lost a few of them)

This is what I thought would happen to G.Z.

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#163886 Jul 14, 2013
I have heard this from only one source so I can not claim it is correct but they said this Zimmerman trail cost $60M. Whether or not if it was that much, a Grand Jury would have cost far less. And that is about as far as this case would have gone if Angela Corey had unilaterally decided against one.
Just think how far that $60M would have gone to feed poor ghetto children. was it worth it?

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163887 Jul 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
You must mean Soccer not Football.
LOL
Doesn't happen very often, but Rogue's article (he didn't write it, and he supplied the link) is correct. Only we North Americans call it soccer. Everyone one else calls it football. The strange thing is we call our sport football, whereas the foot kick is only used for field goals, punts and point conversions. Yup, football it is, and the rest of the article is BS, Qatar doesn't need those tanks for 2022 - Qatar is filthy rich , money coming out of its ears, so they buy tanks and other useless stuff.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#163888 Jul 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Republicans talk a good game but never ever delivered smaller government.
12 years of Reagan/Bush and 8 years of Bush/Cheney increased the size of government with the largest deficits in history.
=========
No Republican administration has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1957.
Dwight Eisenhower was last Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
That is because the mass media will not allow a conservative Republic to win the race for POTUS. The last time we had a budget surplus was after the Republicans won a lot of seats in the 1994 election. The idea of a budget surplus is a facade because in order to get a budget surplus in 1968 the government under Johnson started stealing from Social Security and using fake accounting measures to pretend like they had a surplus. Obama has been pretending every since he was first elected November 2008.

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163889 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Only in America does anyone call it Soccer! You don't get out much, do you?
Oh, in German they call it "fussball", the Spanish cal it "futball" and the French call it "ballon".
Now Tootzie, can you name us another country which calls it "soccer"?
Oh, you do know that if you dye your hair (on your head) brunet, you will raise your IQ by ten points!
Nope. The French call it "Le foot".( le pied)

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#163890 Jul 14, 2013
Oh, the only people not sworn to tell the truth are the lawyers. The prosecutor claimed that GZ lied 28 times even though two detectives said there were no major inconsistencies in any of his six interrogations. A MINOR inconsistency does not a lie make! Calling a small tree a bush is NOT a lie!!! But that will not stop a lawyer from claiming an inconsistency is a lie.
Yep, Bush lied about WMD because they did not find any?!? Libtardian Logic works great.

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163891 Jul 14, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
ah...sorry they are the same verse
Matters little, for this verse has zilch to do with the state taking a life.

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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163892 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
All to often, you are correct. Here in Florida, twice last year. police illegally entered homes without a knock, the home owner, not knowing they were police, defended himself and was killed.
Even though the police committed felonies for illegally entering a house, they were not charged in the two deaths.
Now, the most the family can do is sue the local government for wrongful death but Florida law restricts this claim to $100,000. This limit was set decades ago when $100,000 was considered a lot of money but today it is not and not enough incentive for local governments to change their ways.
Drug raids leave far too many innocent people dead.

Warrants kill a lot of people too.

There is no satisfactory recourse.

We need less police. More quality officers.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#163893 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Yes, anyone surprised that garbage Justice ha ha LRS would again come up with garbage foxnews.com
How crass, how vulgar, how unacceptable.
I haven't seen Obama come out with a news conference to announce that if he had a son,he would look like Odin Lloyd. There has been a lot of murders in this country over the past five years,but Obama decided to make the Trayvon Martin incident a racial affair while ignoring thousands of murders in order to put a microscope on an accidental death. Skylar Neese was a premeditated murder,but it hasn't receive the attention that the Standford death received.

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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163894 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't happen very often, but Rogue's article (he didn't write it, and he supplied the link) is correct. Only we North Americans call it soccer. Everyone one else calls it football. The strange thing is we call our sport football, whereas the foot kick is only used for field goals, punts and point conversions. Yup, football it is, and the rest of the article is BS, Qatar doesn't need those tanks for 2022 - Qatar is filthy rich , money coming out of its ears, so they buy tanks and other useless stuff.
There is a simple reason for this.

We do not consider it a sport.(soccer)
More of a high school girl's game.

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The internet

#163895 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Matters little, for this verse has zilch to do with the state taking a life.
No it does not.

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163896 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Why is Kate Middleton going to a PRIVATE facility to have her baby? Why the 99% of the Brits get third-rate medical care, the One Percenters will always get POSH treatment.
In a few years, the American 53%ers who pay taxes, will get the same health care that our military vets have been getting all along.
St Mary's Hospital, London
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The hospital site incorporates the private Lindo Wing where several celebrity and royal births have occurred.
Yes, private health care is allowed in England.

Would you very much mind proving that, and I quote you : "Why the 99% of the Brits get third-rate medical care,". You always boast that you supple links. I do. But do you?

Why is life expectancy higher in the UK than the US? Could it be universal health care, notwithstanding private clinics?
Frank

Spokane, WA

#163897 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I have heard this from only one source so I can not claim it is correct but they said this Zimmerman trail cost $60M. Whether or not if it was that much, a Grand Jury would have cost far less. And that is about as far as this case would have gone if Angela Corey had unilaterally decided against one.
Just think how far that $60M would have gone to feed poor ghetto children. was it worth it?
It was worth it to Al Sharpton,like Obama he doesn't care about how many poor children $60 million could feed. That $60 million is enough to pay for two vacation days for Obama.

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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163898 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, the only people not sworn to tell the truth are the lawyers. The prosecutor claimed that GZ lied 28 times even though two detectives said there were no major inconsistencies in any of his six interrogations. A MINOR inconsistency does not a lie make! Calling a small tree a bush is NOT a lie!!! But that will not stop a lawyer from claiming an inconsistency is a lie.
Yep, Bush lied about WMD because they did not find any?!? Libtardian Logic works great.
If the police ask you where you were yesterday morning...and you say at the diner having pancakes.

But you ordered an omlette...

Are you lying or being inconsistant?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163899 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, FLORIDA law requires probable cause that he was NOT acting in self defence to arrest him. The fact that he shot someone is not evidence of a crime. You do not have to prove it to arrest someone but you have to have proable cause to arrest them.
Florida requires reasonable suspicion that the use of force was unlawful. It is reasonable to conclude that suspicion that the use of force was unlawful is justified when an angry person, describing the victim with profanity, and pursuing the innocent victim then shoots and kills the victim. That fulfills the probable cause standard. The evidence already showed Zimmerman's animus toward the victim so it was ***reasonable to suspect*** that Zimmerman instigated the altercation and was predisposed to shoot the victim without sufficient cause. That fulfills the probable cause standard. Capisce?
wojar wrote:
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I really don't know what crime must be proven in order to establish probable cause. Perhaps you can tell me?

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