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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163899 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Again, FLORIDA law requires probable cause that he was NOT acting in self defence to arrest him. The fact that he shot someone is not evidence of a crime. You do not have to prove it to arrest someone but you have to have proable cause to arrest them.
Florida requires reasonable suspicion that the use of force was unlawful. It is reasonable to conclude that suspicion that the use of force was unlawful is justified when an angry person, describing the victim with profanity, and pursuing the innocent victim then shoots and kills the victim. That fulfills the probable cause standard. The evidence already showed Zimmerman's animus toward the victim so it was ***reasonable to suspect*** that Zimmerman instigated the altercation and was predisposed to shoot the victim without sufficient cause. That fulfills the probable cause standard. Capisce?
wojar wrote:
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I really don't know what crime must be proven in order to establish probable cause. Perhaps you can tell me?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163900 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
How you Libtards function in society, I have no idea. If you think you have right of way and pull out in front of another car and there is a wreck you don't think you caused it.
About 15 years ago I knew this guy who bought a flushed out conversion van, paid up the insurance for six months and registered the vehicle. Six months later he allowed the insurance to laps and then he caused an accident.
He turned left in front of an oncoming car and they collided and he was cited for failure to yield and not having insurance. He then went out and got his totaled out van insured. He went to court and showed the judge his insurance papers and the judge said they were not valid at the time of the accident and he did not understand why they revoked his drivers licence.
He also did not understand why they charged him with the accident as the other car had hit HIM nor could he not understand my the insurance company would not pay off the damages.
How do you people make it through society with your Libtardian Logic?
?????????? Shrink alert, shrink alert!!!!!!!§tat.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#163901 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques,
I didn't know the Zimmerman case did not go to a Grand Jury for indictment.
It just seemed to me to be local case and should have never received national coverage.
The whole case was a travesty, I thought.
loose

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#163902 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques,
I mean I don't think the case would have gotten past a Grand Jury.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163903 Jul 14, 2013
You know...there is a great reason for his inconsistancies that no one seemed to bring up this entire time.

GZ said the reason he couldn't remember the names of the only three streets in the complex is because he had a issue with memory... that was so problematic that he is perscribed medication for it.

Turns out he was given medication commonly used to treat ADD.

(Asshole disorder for anyone who was alive before the 90s)

If his memory was so god awful bad...could he have even been allowed to testify?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163904 Jul 14, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>It was worth it to Al Sharpton,like Obama he doesn't care about how many poor children $60 million could feed. That $60 million is enough to pay for two vacation days for Obama.
Al Sharpton...more proof that you can get away with the most depraved acts as long as you can get yourself called "reverand".

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163905 Jul 14, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a simple reason for this.
We do not consider it a sport.(soccer)
More of a high school girl's game.
Then explain why it's by far the most popular team sport in the world and baseball and north American football are but local and limited-to-one-region sport, just not catching on outside the US and Canada. And watch out, as soccer (real name : football) is fast catching on , at last in the USA and Canada. Don't forget, for kids who want to do sports, soccer is affordable - shoes and a ball is all you need and they last forever

Having said that, soccer, as a totally-boring sport (field is too big, game is too defensive), is second only to baseball. Why is baseball even more boring than soccer? Easy, it has no time limit. A game can last forever, and even when they only play the regulation 9 innings, it seems like forever. And a sissy game it is, what with designated hitter dinosaurs who can no longer field and run but can still manage to swing a bat against the worst pitchers in the history or the game. Well, in all fairness, there is some excitement. Indeed, who can be the most disgusting spitter, how much tobacco juice they can hurl in one single spit, and how long they can scratch that crotch. Meanwhile, as cobwebs grow under outfielders' armpits...ohum.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163906 Jul 14, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
I mean I don't think the case would have gotten past a Grand Jury.
Case closed.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#163907 Jul 14, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Drug raids leave far too many innocent people dead.
Warrants kill a lot of people too.
There is no satisfactory recourse.
We need less police. More quality officers.
We need less drug addicts and less criminals. Since most criminals are repeat offenders,we need less layers and stricter law enforcement.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#163908 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Then explain why it's by far the most popular team sport in the world and baseball and north American football are but local and limited-to-one-region sport, just not catching on outside the US and Canada. And watch out, as soccer (real name : football) is fast catching on , at last in the USA and Canada. Don't forget, for kids who want to do sports, soccer is affordable - shoes and a ball is all you need and they last forever
Having said that, soccer, as a totally-boring sport (field is too big, game is too defensive), is second only to baseball. Why is baseball even more boring than soccer? Easy, it has no time limit. A game can last forever, and even when they only play the regulation 9 innings, it seems like forever. And a sissy game it is, what with designated hitter dinosaurs who can no longer field and run but can still manage to swing a bat against the worst pitchers in the history or the game. Well, in all fairness, there is some excitement. Indeed, who can be the most disgusting spitter, how much tobacco juice they can hurl in one single spit, and how long they can scratch that crotch. Meanwhile, as cobwebs grow under outfielders' armpits...ohum.
They have been saying that for forty years and soccer hasn't rally grown that much in popularity. The only way it will grow is if the government continues to put restrictions on American football. Children can play basketball in a much smaller space and without expensive equipment.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163909 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't happen very often, but Rogue's article (he didn't write it, and he supplied the link) is correct. Only we North Americans call it soccer. Everyone one else calls it football. The strange thing is we call our sport football, whereas the foot kick is only used for field goals, punts and point conversions. Yup, football it is, and the rest of the article is BS, Qatar doesn't need those tanks for 2022 - Qatar is filthy rich , money coming out of its ears, so they buy tanks and other useless stuff.
Well, They may need those tanks for things other that sports crowd control. They live in a bad neighborhood. Iran is a short distance away and Iraq could always revert back to a dictator with conquest on his mind.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#163910 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Then explain why it's by far the most popular team sport in the world and baseball and north American football are but local and limited-to-one-region sport, just not catching on outside the US and Canada. And watch out, as soccer (real name : football) is fast catching on , at last in the USA and Canada. Don't forget, for kids who want to do sports, soccer is affordable - shoes and a ball is all you need and they last forever
Having said that, soccer, as a totally-boring sport (field is too big, game is too defensive), is second only to baseball. Why is baseball even more boring than soccer? Easy, it has no time limit. A game can last forever, and even when they only play the regulation 9 innings, it seems like forever. And a sissy game it is, what with designated hitter dinosaurs who can no longer field and run but can still manage to swing a bat against the worst pitchers in the history or the game. Well, in all fairness, there is some excitement. Indeed, who can be the most disgusting spitter, how much tobacco juice they can hurl in one single spit, and how long they can scratch that crotch. Meanwhile, as cobwebs grow under outfielders' armpits...ohum.
More young people have received concussions while playing soccer than football,baseball and basketball combined.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163911 Jul 14, 2013
Unprovoked shooting of unarmed 17-year old black kids seems to be the pastime in Florida.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-04-09...

http://tinyurl.com/qba27ox


Nice responsible white gun collector. I'm sure he has Rogue's recommendation.
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#163912 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
In Florida, during preliminary hearing, in order to obtain immunity from prosecution per self defense, the DEFENDANT must establish the affirmative defense by preponderance of evidence. If you claim that the standard for charging a defendant is other than probable cause, please cite proper authority or you're wasting my time.
Zimmerman shot that guy in the heart.
He showed no remorse.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163913 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The key is the expression "same crimes".
According to the Blockburger test if the crimes for the separate prosecutions each contain an element not found in the other, then they are not treated as the same crime and therefore not barred by the double jeopardy rule.
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
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Now, GZ was already investigated by the FBI for civil rights violations and was cleared. They can not reopen the investigation without new evidence, thank you big mouth Barack Obama! And considering that Angela Corey is facing prosecutorial misconduct complaint, they will have to tread water a long time.
UR a f------ riot.

But the feds opened the door Sunday to reopening the case.

“Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction, and whether federal prosecution is appropriate,” the Justice Department said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/geor...

http://tinyurl.com/qy82ltp

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163914 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Then explain why it's by far the most popular team sport in the world and baseball and north American football are but local and limited-to-one-region sport, just not catching on outside the US and Canada. And watch out, as soccer (real name : football) is fast catching on , at last in the USA and Canada. Don't forget, for kids who want to do sports, soccer is affordable - shoes and a ball is all you need and they last forever
Having said that, soccer, as a totally-boring sport (field is too big, game is too defensive), is second only to baseball. Why is baseball even more boring than soccer? Easy, it has no time limit. A game can last forever, and even when they only play the regulation 9 innings, it seems like forever. And a sissy game it is, what with designated hitter dinosaurs who can no longer field and run but can still manage to swing a bat against the worst pitchers in the history or the game. Well, in all fairness, there is some excitement. Indeed, who can be the most disgusting spitter, how much tobacco juice they can hurl in one single spit, and how long they can scratch that crotch. Meanwhile, as cobwebs grow under outfielders' armpits...ohum.
Call it what you will...I don't consider baseball a sport either.

Soccer will never be a sport in my mind. Until it becomes more competitive.

30% of all soccer (football) matches end in a draw.

It is even possible for the World Cup to end in a draw.

Game...not a sport.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163915 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Then explain why it's by far the most popular team sport in the world and baseball and north American football are but local and limited-to-one-region sport, just not catching on outside the US and Canada. And watch out, as soccer (real name : football) is fast catching on , at last in the USA and Canada. Don't forget, for kids who want to do sports, soccer is affordable - shoes and a ball is all you need and they last forever
Having said that, soccer, as a totally-boring sport (field is too big, game is too defensive), is second only to baseball. Why is baseball even more boring than soccer? Easy, it has no time limit. A game can last forever, and even when they only play the regulation 9 innings, it seems like forever. And a sissy game it is, what with designated hitter dinosaurs who can no longer field and run but can still manage to swing a bat against the worst pitchers in the history or the game. Well, in all fairness, there is some excitement. Indeed, who can be the most disgusting spitter, how much tobacco juice they can hurl in one single spit, and how long they can scratch that crotch. Meanwhile, as cobwebs grow under outfielders' armpits...ohum.
..In addition, it doesn't cost money for kids to play sports in the U.S.

Unless you count picking them up after practice.

I had to buy wrestling flats for wrestling.

All of my track and field equipment was provided for...except foot ware.

All of my football equipment was provided.(unless you wanted specialized foot ware.)

In return they asked that we participated in a fundraiser once a year. Was not mandatory.

You were talking about schools weren't you?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163916 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Liar and BSer. You pick the Constitution AND the Bible apart, accept what suits you, and reject what does not. What a loser. What a 3rd-class citizen.
Now that is how you completely avoid the question! Nice job. bozo
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163917 Jul 14, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Try to never call anyone "two stupid."
It...well...defeats the purpose.
LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163918 Jul 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, anyone surprised that garbage Justice ha ha LRS would again come up with garbage foxnews.com
How crass, how vulgar, how unacceptable.
Tissue for the child?

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