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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163659 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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I posted a link that explains it in a way I think you'll half-way understand.
I thank the Play Justice for admitting he has no coherent rebuttal.
wojar wrote:
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How hopelessly muddled and confused is Rouge. I agree 776.031 does not apply in this case.
776.032 also refers to use of force in 776.012, 776.013.
776.013 contains a provision concerning "A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in ***any other place*** where he or she has a right to be". Any other place doesn't mean in the home. Duh.
But Rouge never gets past the title or first line of a statute. How sad.
So if Rouge is referring to SYG other than 776.012, 776.013, or 776.031, pray tell what imaginary provision is Rouge referring to?
Rouge, you're in way over your head.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163660 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're just a shyt stirring, sad, little troll.
That's a rebuttal?
wojar wrote:
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Not quite Rougie. They cannot arrest if they do not have probable cause that the force used was unlawful. They have a creep playing policeman who was following an innocent 17-year old, referring to him with profanity to the police, who shot the boy dead, and who changed his story every time the wind blew in a different direction. That's probable cause right there.
Duh!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163661 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Black Panther:‘Praise Be To God’ If George Zimmerman Is Killed In Prison July 13, 2013
At least one member of the New Black Panther party hopes George Zimmerman is found guilty and murdered in prison.
“Anything less than death for George Zimmerman is not justice,” Kojo Kayrallah told The Daily Caller Friday afternoon. Kayrallah, who identified himself as the Chief of Staff for the state of Florida said he and his group were here in Sanford seeking “justice for Trayvon.” When asked if death in prison was satisfactory, Kayrallah said “praise be to God.”
Watch the video:
Read more: http://conservativevideos.com/2013/07/new-bla...
Has a white community ever been told not to riot over a case?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163662 Jul 13, 2013
Hummm, about a minute ago on Fox News thgey had a woman on and I think they called her Candice and she claimed GZ repeatedly lied but gave no example. She also claimed that GZ had his gun out as Trayvon approached him.
Think abou that. You are approaching someone and they pull out a gun, what would Jesus do? Well, how about what would a normal person do? Turn around?
Now, let's say he did have his gun out, why would he put it away the closer they get to each other?!?
This Libtard, and that is what she is, does not make since!
El Cid

Jacksonville, FL

#163663 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Has a white community ever been told not to riot over a case?
You be a racist cracker head.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163664 Jul 13, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
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READ MY LIPS:
Hitler and the Nazis were fascist rightwingers......
...... PERIOD.
The title National Socialist MEANS NOTHING.
Read my azz hole, Hitler and the Nazis were left wing Socialist/Fascists. I know you are trying to rewrite history but it won't work with me.
Remember you seem to think Obama is some sort of conservative which mean to me you are an
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163665 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
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That's a rebuttal?
<quoted text>
No, your description.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163666 Jul 13, 2013
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
You be a racist cracker head.
And why dat be? Splain "cracka" fors me.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163667 Jul 13, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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You can ask the question a thousand times but there will never be any evidence to support your double back theory save Z’s word. Nor is there any forensic evidence to support the notion that TM ever punched Z save Z’s word.
Gawd damn, Ground Hog Day for the seventh time in one day.
But that is not the F*CKING question. What proof do you have that Zimmerman did anything illegal to Trayvon?!?
Now, just like Wotard, either prove Zimmerman committed some sort of crime (before he used his gun), or shut the F-UP!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163668 Jul 13, 2013
Ya know, if Zimmerman is acquitted, Wotard and Pooptard will probably blame ... BUSH!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163669 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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No, your description.
The Play Justice believes scatological name calling is a good substitute for a reasoned rebuttal. This is because he cannot reason.

Wimp.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a rebuttal?
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#163670 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Again, what exactly is the probable cause. Either spell it out or shut the f-up.


Poor Rogue Moron is not literate enough to figure it out himself.
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#163671 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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But it has not established that Zimmerman attacked, or provoked, Martin in which case they can not prove he was NOT acting in self defence.
I know you do not understand that simple concept but it is the prosecutor's burden to prove GZ was NOT acting in self defense.
AGAIN, what in the F*CK did Zimmerman illegally do to cause Traytvon to attack him??? You have you azz on the wrong side of the argument!!!
Put up or shut the f-up!!!
Since when does Martin have to provoke Cowboy Zimmerman?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163672 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ya know, if Zimmerman is acquitted, Wotard and Pooptard will probably blame ... BUSH!!!
I would blame the prosecutors for overreaching. Manslaughter/negligent homicide would have been appropriate charges.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163673 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Gawd damn, Ground Hog Day for the seventh time in one day.
But that is not the F*CKING question. What proof do you have that Zimmerman did anything illegal to Trayvon?!?
Now, just like Wotard, either prove Zimmerman committed some sort of crime (before he used his gun), or shut the F-UP!!!
Probable cause does not require proof.

"A reasonable ground to suspect that a person has committed or is committing a crime."

I don't see "proof" in the definition of probable cause.

Proof is what the jury will decide.

If proof were required to charge a suspect there would be little need for a trial.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163674 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
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I would blame the prosecutors for overreaching. Manslaughter/negligent homicide would have been appropriate charges.
Nope, unless they can prove he was not acting in self defense, they can not convict him of jay walking!
And you still have no even tried to explain what crime GZ committed before he shot Trayvon. Zimmerman did not break his own nose, knock himself to the ground and bash his head on the side walk and Trayvon was not standing over him to help him up either!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163675 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
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The Play Justice believes scatological name calling is a good substitute for a reasoned rebuttal. This is because he cannot reason.
Wimp.
<quoted text>
A wimp is someone who cannot admit they're wrong. And when one feels the need to always be right, that is an indication of a vile mind. This is also a description of you. You want fries with that? NEXT!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163676 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Probable cause does not require proof.
"A reasonable ground to suspect that a person has committed or is committing a crime."
I don't see "proof" in the definition of probable cause.
Proof is what the jury will decide.
If proof were required to charge a suspect there would be little need for a trial.
Ground Hog Day #8
You need "probably cause" that he was not acting in self defense to arrest him.
You need a "preponderance of the evidence" to try him.
To convict him you need "beyond any reasonable doubt".
Are you really that stupid?!?

So what proof do you have that GZ was not acting in self defence ... or that he committed another crime that start the assault!!!
Crickets playing twilight zone music!!!
Arguing with idiotards is like eating your table for diner!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163677 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
But it has not established that Zimmerman attacked, or provoked, Martin in which case they can not prove he was NOT acting in self defence.
I know you do not understand that simple concept but it is the prosecutor's burden to prove GZ was NOT acting in self defense.
AGAIN, what in the F*CK did Zimmerman illegally do to cause Traytvon to attack him??? You have you azz on the wrong side of the argument!!!
Put up or shut the f-up!!!
Rougie is all over the map again. His contention has been that Zimmerman was improperly charged for lack of probable cause. I don't see proof that crime did not occur as any part of the definition of probable cause that a crime may have been committed.

As far as proving Zimmerman guilty, the prosecutor must convince the jury Zimmerman is guilty beyond reasonable doubt of one of the crimes he is charged with. He doesn't have to convince Rogue. If the jury doesn't believe Zimmerman's self-serving story that he was attacked by the much smaller and younger Martin, he doesn't have to prove Zimmerman did anything to cause Martin to attack him. That's really not a hard concept to comprehend. What is Rougie's problem?

wojar wrote:
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It was not established that Martin attacked Zimmerman or that Zimmerman did not physically provoke Martin. If the facts clearly supported Zimmerman the case would never have gotten to trial.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163678 Jul 13, 2013
In 2010 I went fishing off of the Flagler Beach pier and I parked my pickup truck next to where some surfers were parked. When I loaded my fishing gear I did it through my right door, I then unloaded it to go fishing and about four hours later I returned to reload it and there was a key scratch four feet long on the right side on my pickup.
The only thing I could think of was the Bush/Cheney sticker on my rear bumper. You see, if a Libtard thinks they have been insulted, they have the right to damage your car.
Trayvon did not like a creepy cracker following him so he assaulted him. And all the evidence and witnesses back up GZ's story!!!
Trayvon's racial hatred against crackers is what got Trayvon shot and killed.

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