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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163820 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Coming from someone who thinks walking in the same direction as someone else is a crime, I think that is funny!!!
Using Libtardian Logic, if GZ needed to be tried because a few people think he did, we should try Obama because over 100 million Americans think we should. A JURY SHOULD DECIDE because We the People demand it!!!
Umm, I said Zimmerman actions could be viewed as provocation. Nothing about Z violating statute by following.

BTW, genius, Zimmerman was tried because the prosecution cleared the probable cause hurdle. That's how it works.

Nevertheless, trial by jury is not germane to my comment, which pointed out that the jury has nothing to do with immunity under 776.032 or any reimbursement for fees and expenses related to the trial.

Zimmerman is not entitled to expenses and fees under 776.032 and the jury has nothing to do with that.

Do you think you can ever stay on point?
wojar wrote:
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The jury has nothing to do with immunity from prosecution.
RU on drugs?
Similarly, GZ cannot recover fees and expenses under 776.32.
By waiving his right for a pretrial hearing to determine immunity, and recover fees and expenses he OPTED FOR A TRIAL. It's too late for a hearing for immunity from prosecution after the fact.
What planet RU from?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163821 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Read my azz hole, Hitler and the Nazis were left wing Socialist/Fascists. I know you are trying to rewrite history but it won't work with me.
Remember you seem to think Obama is some sort of conservative which mean to me you are an http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =b2pD0B9RfpsXX
First of all Rouge...socialism and fascism are pretty much exact opposites.

Where do you think the word fascist came from Rouge?

It is extreme right wing govt.

I am sure you know a word or two for extreme liberal forms of govt.

The Nazis were all about conservatism. Bringing back traditional values and restoring the greatness of Germany.

Worse...Most were confessing Catholics. The rest were prodestant and other forms of christianity.

This is textbook Right Wing Conservatism in its finest hour.

And how were they anything but just that?

Don't just get pissed and move on...like you have the last 4 times I have asked you a question.

You seem to be the only guy on Earth who doesn't accept this reality.

Please explain yourself.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163822 Jul 14, 2013
"In God I trust and the rest pay cash."

Thanks for that.

It is brilliant in a twisted sort of way.

:)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163823 Jul 14, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Mine is an open invitation for any future inquiries, that's all.
I too thought there was reasonable doubt as to what actually happened and in what order those events might have occured.
I think the jury was courageous and performed their duty admirably as was instructed by the law.
Case closed.
I agree Zimmerman was not guilty of the charges per the letter of the law but his hands are not clean. That is the shame of it.

Now what happens if Zimmerman shoots another kid?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163824 Jul 14, 2013
....and render unto Ceasar...

is Mark 12:17

not Matthew 21:21

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163825 Jul 14, 2013
ah...sorry they are the same verse

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163827 Jul 14, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>ObamaKare was never designed to lower the cost of health care. All of Obama agenda is designed to take money from the working person. There is no Obama agenda item that is good for Our Country or for We The People. Obama does not care about the people,he only cares about Obama.
That's how the Republicans designed it in the early 1990s.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163828 Jul 14, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Maybe if there are any lessons to be learned by the public from the Trayvon Martin killing, one is that if someone feels they are being stalked or followed or threatened in any manner, they should immediately get on the horn to the police and notify them that someone is making them uneasy.
There are all these what if's and should have's floating around out there, mostly around Zimmerman.
Well, what if Martin had called the police himself, which he did not.
I think they both took the law into their own hands.
I wish it had not have happened.
If a 17 year old teen in excellent shape is being followed by a fat slob, he/she should run.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163829 Jul 14, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
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What's funny and more than a little sad is you probably very strongly believe all the garbage you write, Fwank.
Frank has no memory of what he writes after five minutes.

Since: May 10

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#163830 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Not double jeopardy violation according to the Supreme Court.
C.f., Jerome v. United States, 318 U.S. 101,(1943)("it should be noted that the double jeopardy provision of the Fifth Amendment does not stand as a bar to federal prosecution though a state conviction based on the same acts has already been obtained. See United States v. Lanza, 260 U. S. 377; Hebert v. Louisiana, 272 U. S. 312.")
Yep, you rob a Post Office, and kill a customer while doing so, you will be tried in a FEDERAL court for the robbery and in a State court for the murder.
If a bank is FDIC insured and it is robbed, the robber is not tried in federal court of the robbery itself, but for stealing federally insured money!
Bill Clinton was not impeached for having sex with Monica but for obstruction of justice.

Since: May 10

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#163831 Jul 14, 2013
Why is Kate Middleton going to a PRIVATE facility to have her baby? Why the 99% of the Brits get third-rate medical care, the One Percenters will always get POSH treatment.
In a few years, the American 53%ers who pay taxes, will get the same health care that our military vets have been getting all along.

St Mary's Hospital, London
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The hospital site incorporates the private Lindo Wing where several celebrity and royal births have occurred.

Since: May 10

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#163832 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Frank has no memory of what he writes after five minutes.
And you do? You still haven't figured out what crime George Zimmerman committed!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163833 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, you rob a Post Office, and kill a customer while doing so, you will be tried in a FEDERAL court for the robbery and in a State court for the murder.
If a bank is FDIC insured and it is robbed, the robber is not tried in federal court of the robbery itself, but for stealing federally insured money!
Bill Clinton was not impeached for having sex with Monica but for obstruction of justice.
Anyone who grew up in the 1960s and watched agent Carl Erskine on "The FBI" on TV knows that.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Not double jeopardy violation according to the Supreme Court.
C.f., Jerome v. United States, 318 U.S. 101,(1943)("it should be noted that the double jeopardy provision of the Fifth Amendment does not stand as a bar to federal prosecution though a state conviction based on the same acts has already been obtained. See United States v. Lanza, 260 U. S. 377; Hebert v. Louisiana, 272 U. S. 312.")

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163834 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And you do? You still haven't figured out what crime George Zimmerman committed!
I said Zimmerman's actions provoked Martin. Whenever Rouge sees "provoked" he hallucinates "crime".

And if Zimmerman tried to hold Martin at the scene (rather than punching), instigating the fight, he'll never tell. The fact is no one (except perhaps Zimmerman) knows what happened.

But Zimmerman's hands are not clean and I have no doubt Rouge will never comprehend why.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163835 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Not liking? I have no problem with the verdict.
BTW, I never said there was evidence of a hate crime.
What I did say was that DOJ might continue investigating making GZ's life miserable and that they can be vindictive SOBs.
Now how does that appear I don't "like" the verdict.
In fact if GZ had been found guilty and given only 10 years I would have felt sorry for the stupid schlump. He really didn't understand how inappropriate it is for a neighborhood watch volunteer to pursue fantasy suspects with a gun. He was playing cops & robbers, but Martin's only real life was ended. Martin should have avoided confrontation. He could have easily outrun Zimmerman. Martin was not without fault, but he didn't deserve to be picked on and shot dead by an adult. If Zimmerman does this again, I doubt the jury will be forgiving.
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Really, your reading comprehension is dismal.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163836 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, WTF? What do tanks have to do with football? What do tanks have to do with civil unrest? I seriously doubt that they ordered tanks for the world cup.
There are a lot of bad actors in that part of the world and they are not going to wait until a football game to start things. Methinks the writer is just trying to get a name for himself for connecting the dots ,,,,,,, where there are NO DOTS!
Qatar set to purchase 118 tanks to prepare for 2022 World Cup Mike Prindiville Jul 14, 2013,
Qatar is set to purchase 118 Leopard tanks and 16 tank howitzers from Germany in preparation for hosting the 2022 World Cup.
German newspaper Bild am Sonntag made the announcement Sunday claiming the oil-rich nation will pay several billion dollars to German defense manufacturer Krauss-Maffei Wegmann and defense tech group Rheinmetall.
The deal comes after the government of German Chancellor Angela Merkel approved the initial purchase of 62 Leopard tanks and 24 howitzers this past spring.
http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/14...
That is easy...

They need the Howitzers to cut down troop columns marching on the Soccer match.

They need 62 Leopard tanks to drown out the gaddamn Vuvuzela.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163837 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Umm, I said Zimmerman actions could be viewed as provocation. Nothing about Z violating statute by following.
BTW, genius, Zimmerman was tried because the prosecution cleared the probable cause hurdle. That's how it works.
Nevertheless, trial by jury is not germane to my comment, which pointed out that the jury has nothing to do with immunity under 776.032 or any reimbursement for fees and expenses related to the trial.
Zimmerman is not entitled to expenses and fees under 776.032 and the jury has nothing to do with that.
Do you think you can ever stay on point?
<quoted text>
Are you a complete idiot? He was charged because the clowns in D.C. pressured the authorities to do so! Plain and simple.

Since: May 10

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#163838 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
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That's how the Republicans designed it in the early 1990s.
I bet you can not explain that either.
From a guy who does not know that calling a small tree a bush is not a lie.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#163840 Jul 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And you do? You still haven't figured out what crime George Zimmerman committed!
Following innocent kids while playing policeman is not a crime, but it is sick. Zimmerman violated neighborhood watch rules, not a crime, but stupid and behavior consistent with an unbalanced creep.

We will never know who instigated the physical confrontation so it will never be established that Zimmerman assaulted Martin (and you don't have to throw a punch to assault) or vice versa.

All that can be said is that there was reasonable doubt of Zimmerman's guilt. He may have committed a crime before the fact, maybe not. "Not guilty" is not an endorsement.

Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163841 Jul 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
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If a 17 year old teen in excellent shape is being followed by a fat slob, he/she should run.
Is being a fat slob a crime these days?

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