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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163678 Jul 13, 2013
In 2010 I went fishing off of the Flagler Beach pier and I parked my pickup truck next to where some surfers were parked. When I loaded my fishing gear I did it through my right door, I then unloaded it to go fishing and about four hours later I returned to reload it and there was a key scratch four feet long on the right side on my pickup.
The only thing I could think of was the Bush/Cheney sticker on my rear bumper. You see, if a Libtard thinks they have been insulted, they have the right to damage your car.
Trayvon did not like a creepy cracker following him so he assaulted him. And all the evidence and witnesses back up GZ's story!!!
Trayvon's racial hatred against crackers is what got Trayvon shot and killed.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163679 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Rougie is all over the map again. His contention has been that Zimmerman was improperly charged for lack of probable cause. I don't see proof that crime did not occur as any part of the definition of probable cause that a crime may have been committed.
As far as proving Zimmerman guilty, the prosecutor must convince the jury Zimmerman is guilty beyond reasonable doubt of one of the crimes he is charged with. He doesn't have to convince Rogue. If the jury doesn't believe Zimmerman's self-serving story that he was attacked by the much smaller and younger Martin, he doesn't have to prove Zimmerman did anything to cause Martin to attack him. That's really not a hard concept to comprehend. What is Rougie's problem?
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The question is, what is YOUR problem?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163680 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
A wimp is someone who cannot admit they're wrong. And when one feels the need to always be right, that is an indication of a vile mind. This is also a description of you. You want fries with that? NEXT!
A wimp is someone whose only rebuttal is juvenile ad hominem scatological insults.

Especially coming from a "Justice" wannabe. Enjoy your fantasy world, Loser.
wojar wrote:
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The Play Justice believes scatological name calling is a good substitute for a reasoned rebuttal. This is because he cannot reason.
Wimp.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163681 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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The question is, what is YOUR problem?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-b5aW08ivHUXX
Now if the jury doesn't believe Zimmerman's 'victim of an attack' story why does the prosecutor have to show Zimmerman acted illegally in provoking an attack that did not occur?

I'm really curious.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Rougie is all over the map again. His contention has been that Zimmerman was improperly charged for lack of probable cause. I don't see proof that crime did not occur as any part of the definition of probable cause that a crime may have been committed.
As far as proving Zimmerman guilty, the prosecutor must convince the jury Zimmerman is guilty beyond reasonable doubt of one of the crimes he is charged with. He doesn't have to convince Rogue. If the jury doesn't believe Zimmerman's self-serving story that he was attacked by the much smaller and younger Martin, he doesn't have to prove Zimmerman did anything to cause Martin to attack him. That's really not a hard concept to comprehend. What is Rougie's problem?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#163682 Jul 13, 2013
Wojar,
There really is no treatment for nasal bone fractures and radiographs do nothing more than document for medical-legal purposes that there is a fracture and/or soft tissue swelling present.

But yeah, I think the GZ/TM case raises some very thorny legal issues that the judiciary needs to sift through.

And I never said GZ should get the electric chair, aka 'Old Smokey', if convicted. Which reminds me, I have a story about the electric chair and Ted Bundy if you would like to hear it. I'll post it later on maybe.
loose

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#163683 Jul 13, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
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I agree with every word in your post.
I did not vote for Obama but when I saw the Wright controversy I was afraid Obama was finished.
Corporate Democrats are still the lesser of two evils with corporate Republicans.
I will never vote for another corporate political hack who continuously vote in the interest of Wall Street and against Main Street.
My preference is people like Ralph Nader and Cornel West who hold views opposite of what corporate Democrats implement like Obama/Clinton and corporate Republicans like Reagan/Bush's.
Americans are desperately in need of a people's party and not these two corrupt corporate parties who divide and conquer so to benefit their friends.
Naturally our friends on the other side will accuse me of Communism/Socialism. LOL
A Quick Aside:
Get back to your original religion!
http://tinyurl.com/agasx29
Of course you’ll be called a Commie and a Socialist for associating with any organization that is of the people, by the people and for the people. Ironic isn’t it?

30 min after taking a couple of Motrin I can dance all the way through that song. LOL

One of my Beatle favorites.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163684 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A wimp is someone whose only rebuttal is juvenile ad hominem scatological insults.
Especially coming from a "Justice" wannabe. Enjoy your fantasy world, Loser.
<quoted text>
I'll make this more definitive for you. A wimp is a wojar. This makes three laws that toesap is incapable of understanding. Even when it is written in black and white right before his eyes. Maybe he can't read? He certainly can't comprehend what he reads nor does he seem to have any common sense. I'll ask again, you want fries with that? NEXT!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163685 Jul 13, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Wojar,
There really is no treatment for nasal bone fractures and radiographs do nothing more than document for medical-legal purposes that there is a fracture and/or soft tissue swelling present.
But yeah, I think the GZ/TM case raises some very thorny legal issues that the judiciary needs to sift through.
And I never said GZ should get the electric chair, aka 'Old Smokey', if convicted. Which reminds me, I have a story about the electric chair and Ted Bundy if you would like to hear it. I'll post it later on maybe.
loose
Go ahead. What's the story?

BTW, in 60 hours I board a plane for a 42 hour journey 21 hr in agonizing flight and 21 hours layover, not including the drive to New Haven, the train to New York, and the shuttle bus to Newark. I'll be in Cebu, not too far from your neighborhood.

My cell phone will not work in Cebu and my house will not have internet. The beach will be a two minute walk. I will be opening coconuts, peeling the varieties of banana, swinging golf clubs, and making friends with the natives. Then five weeks later, another agonizing series of flights back to the US.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163686 Jul 13, 2013
Loose,

One other thing I'll be doing while on Cebu is studying chord progression and counterpoint. Due to radial tunnel syndrome (same problem that plagued Leon Fleisher) I no longer play the piano so I'm going to learn composition.

I played many of Chopin's works, as well as Debussy, Beethoven, and Mussorgsky.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#163687 Jul 13, 2013
Wojar,
I'm just sayin' that with suspected nasal bone fractures, in general, because there is no course of treatment available, that it sometimes not prudent to order X-rays as it is considered by some professionals to be a waste of dwindling health care resources. As well as taking into account that radiation exposure constitutes a cummulative hazard to the human body, guilty or innocent alike.
They can't going x-raying every body part under the sun every time someone comes in with a complaint, is all I'm sayin'.
loose
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#163688 Jul 13, 2013
You'd think someone trying to build a defense for themself would have had X-rays or expert medical testimony.

If he does not, it's not a good sign for the defense.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#163689 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And then there is the Ghetto Trash Rachel Jeantel whose initial police interview was in Mrs. Martin's house with her present.
When you normally do a criminal case interview you normally do not have any other people present!!! This police investigation was corrupted right after the Race Baiting Barack Obama opened his big mouth.
What like race baiting George H. W. Bush opened his big mouth?

Of the Rodney King beating President George H.W. Bush said,“It was sickening to see that,” after viewing the video from the Oval Office.“There is no way to explain that away.”
http://rollingout.com/politics/rodney-king-be...

Of course the jury found a way, but Bush was having none of it. He found a way as well. To get their ass convicted that is.

Whatsa matter Rogue, Jeantel’s testimony under oath don’t jibe with your fables so that automatically makes her ghetto trash?
Grand Birther

Brooklyn, NY

#163690 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
In 2010 I went fishing off of the Flagler Beach pier and I parked my pickup truck next to where some surfers were parked. When I loaded my fishing gear I did it through my right door, I then unloaded it to go fishing and about four hours later I returned to reload it and there was a key scratch four feet long on the right side on my pickup.
The only thing I could think of was the Bush/Cheney sticker on my rear bumper. You see, if a Libtard thinks they have been insulted, they have the right to damage your car.
Trayvon did not like a creepy cracker following him so he assaulted him. And all the evidence and witnesses back up GZ's story!!!
Trayvon's racial hatred against crackers is what got Trayvon shot and killed.
These fantasies of persecution are consistent for paranoid schizophrenics and conservative morons such as yourself.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#163691 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Black Panther:‘Praise Be To God’ If George Zimmerman Is Killed In Prison July 13, 2013
At least one member of the New Black Panther party hopes George Zimmerman is found guilty and murdered in prison.
“Anything less than death for George Zimmerman is not justice,” Kojo Kayrallah told The Daily Caller Friday afternoon. Kayrallah, who identified himself as the Chief of Staff for the state of Florida said he and his group were here in Sanford seeking “justice for Trayvon.” When asked if death in prison was satisfactory, Kayrallah said “praise be to God.”
Watch the video:
Read more: http://conservativevideos.com/2013/07/new-bla...
Rogue, why don’t you go apply for NBPP PR man? Since you seem to be the only one they have you may as well be getting paid.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163692 Jul 13, 2013
Zimmerman found NOT GUILTY!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163693 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Nope, unless they can prove he was not acting in self defense, they can not convict him of jay walking!
And you still have no even tried to explain what crime GZ committed before he shot Trayvon. Zimmerman did not break his own nose, knock himself to the ground and bash his head on the side walk and Trayvon was not standing over him to help him up either!
In every murder case if the jury believes the defendant acted in self defense, the defendant walks. If the jury had believed Zimmerman did not act in self defense he would have been convicted.

It's that simple.

But the claim that there was not probable causes is absurd, Rouge's moving the goalpost notwithstanding.
wojar wrote:
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I would blame the prosecutors for overreaching. Manslaughter/negligent homicide would have been appropriate charges.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#163694 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, unless they can prove he was not acting in self defense, they can not convict him of jay walking!
And you still have no even tried to explain what crime GZ committed before he shot Trayvon. Zimmerman did not break his own nose, knock himself to the ground and bash his head on the side walk and Trayvon was not standing over him to help him up either!
Nope. You have no idea what the jury was thinking. If a lesser charge had been on the table George could have been convicted.

Your second question was answered several times. It was not necessary to prove GZ committed a crime before he shot Trayvon.

What part of not necessary does Rouge not comprehend?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163695 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
In every murder case if the jury believes the defendant acted in self defense, the defendant walks. If the jury had believed Zimmerman did not act in self defense he would have been convicted.
It's that simple.
But the claim that there was not probable causes is absurd, Rouge's moving the goalpost notwithstanding.
<quoted text>
And you still cannot comprehend what you read. Can you comprehend "not guilty"?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#163696 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Zimmerman found NOT GUILTY!
As though everyone was unaware? Apparently Play Justice thinks he's only one here with a tv.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#163697 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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And you still cannot comprehend what you read. Can you comprehend "not guilty"?
I said all along it was a matter for the jury to decide. Can you comprehend that?

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