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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#163510 Jul 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Again Rouge... Stats that are very misleading.
3.13 MILLIONTHS of 1%.... of the actual population.
This is textbook sharpshooter/no base rate fallacy.
They could just as easily have said...
"We ran into Ted at the gas station and here is his opinion."
Look at the words man....
"ALL Americans consider...."
"Liberals consider...."
"Conservatives think...."
These are vast numbers.
Not that we aren't at all shocked when BET attempts to get all sciency and fails.
To Rogue, if it is a sample 1000 people out of 310 million population, it's a valid sample if it feeds his twisted racial views. Like the poll he referred to. But if a majority, a healthy majority, elects Obama, it's fraud. If 209 courts, 535 congressmen, 9 supremes, 50 governors say Obama's BC is a valid one and he was born in Honolulu, it's simply not true and, he's said it often, Obama is a liar. As I said before, with Rogue it's winner-winner for him and loser-loser for you.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163511 Jul 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yes, he did say Martin took off running. So, if GZ was returning to his car, how did Martin end up between him and his car?
And she did not say "creepy guy" but said "creepy CRACKER"!!! Are you trying to play down the racist remarks she was making? WHY?!?
Again, following, or you can call it stalking if you insist, is NOT a crime! And in any event, it did not give Trayvon the right to assault GZ!!!
Oh, why was GZ following Trayvon? So he could tell the cops were he went when they showed up!
Is it ok for random stranger to just follow your kids around Rouge?

How about just following your wife, you know?

You are completely missing the point.

What the hell was he going to do?

Hold him down till the police arrived? Make sure the guy who was just walking home...didn't get away?

This kid had every right to be left the hell alone whilst he made his way home.

Why is that the furthest thing from your mind?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163512 Jul 12, 2013
wojar wrote:
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"Sure he can not stop and question a suspect or make an arrest but the volunteer can follow the suspect so he can tell the police were he is."
"The suspect"? Suspected of buying the wrong brand of candy?
Mr. Zimmerman decided that Trayvon was "the suspect" for an imaginary intended crime discerned from reading Trqyvon's mind and concluding he was "up to no good". In reality Mr. Zimmerman was harassing a 17-year-old high school kid, NOT a "suspect."
And what evidence supports this ludicrous claim? None. I know when I'm just standing around, doing nothing wrong and someone begins to approach me, I turn and run. NOT!

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163513 Jul 12, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Since second degree murder includes all the elements of manslaughter it is not changing the game mid stream. That's the reason it is allowed as it is a lesser INCLUDED offense.
I didn't know that.

I thought manslaughter but was misinformed that it was off the table.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163514 Jul 12, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Since second degree murder includes all the elements of manslaughter it is not changing the game mid stream. That's the reason it is allowed as it is a lesser INCLUDED offense.
But lesser charges are not always allowed to be added, are they? I thought it was up to the judge.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#163515 Jul 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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And what evidence supports this ludicrous claim? None. I know when I'm just standing around, doing nothing wrong and someone begins to approach me, I turn and run. NOT!
Most kids in America are prone to be weary of creepy people in cars. We wouldn't be very good parents if they weren't.

The ones that stop to talk to them.

The ones that stare them down.

The ones that fuking chase them.

These guys could kidnap them or kill them.

Get it?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163516 Jul 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Most kids in America are prone to be weary of creepy people in cars. We wouldn't be very good parents if they weren't.
The ones that stop to talk to them.
The ones that stare them down.
The ones that fuking chase them.
These guys could kidnap them or kill them.
Get it?
You're right, they could. Get it? Yes, I get it. There are bad people in the world. This is not something new. So?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#163517 Jul 12, 2013
Remember the kid who wore the NRA t-shirt to school and was taken away by the police? Well, check out USA Today's main page. Why is it ok for this kid to wear a t-shirt that has a picture of Zimmerman with cross-hairs on him?

I saw another story on here about a teen who was jailed for 5 months for putting a sarcastic remark on his facebook page. He was bailed out $500K! WTF??????

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163518 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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And what evidence supports this ludicrous claim? None. I know when I'm just standing around, doing nothing wrong and someone begins to approach me, I turn and run. NOT!
Trayvon was "standing around" and a casual pedestrian approached him? LMAO.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"Sure he can not stop and question a suspect or make an arrest but the volunteer can follow the suspect so he can tell the police were he is."
"The suspect"? Suspected of buying the wrong brand of candy?
Mr. Zimmerman decided that Trayvon was "the suspect" for an imaginary intended crime discerned from reading Trqyvon's mind and concluding he was "up to no good". In reality Mr. Zimmerman was harassing a 17-year-old high school kid, NOT a "suspect."

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163519 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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But lesser charges are not always allowed to be added, are they? I thought it was up to the judge.
There are specific criteria which must be met to permit instruction of the jury on lesser included charges. For example in Connecticut the Whistman test is used. It's not "up to the judge" to make an arbitrary decision or to make a decision based on Play Justice LRS's approval or disapproval. Sorry, but not liking the fact that the jury was instructed on the lesser included charge does not provide a rational basis to claim impropriety.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Since second degree murder includes all the elements of manslaughter it is not changing the game mid stream. That's the reason it is allowed as it is a lesser INCLUDED offense.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163520 Jul 13, 2013
Prime example of "moving the goal posts".
Play Justice LRS wrote:
I don't think it is right that lesser charges can be added during a trial. I know it can be an advantage for some and a disadvantage for others. Just doesn't seem right to change "mid-stream". Comments?
Mr. Play Justice has essentially stated that the practice of permitting juries to reach a verdict on lesser included charges is not "right".

Now he moves the goal post, and quite ineffectually.
Play Justice LRS wrote:
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But lesser charges are not always allowed to be added, are they? I thought it was up to the judge.
And because sometimes courts do not allow instruction of the jury on lesser included offenses **some of the time** that means the practice is improper **all of the time**?

What is the rational basis for that premise?

"[I]t is settled that a jury should be given the entire range of possible verdicts in a case in which the evidence warrants the giving of the lesser included offenses,[and] it follows that defenses that are supported by a reasonable construction of the evidence should be given along with those same lesser charges." (Internal quotation marks omitted.) State v. Hall, 213 Conn. 579, 588 (1990).

But the Play Justice disagrees (because of the Zimmerman case, which he will vehemently deny.)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#163523 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Remember the kid who wore the NRA t-shirt to school and was taken away by the police? Well, check out USA Today's main page. Why is it ok for this kid to wear a t-shirt that has a picture of Zimmerman with cross-hairs on him?
I saw another story on here about a teen who was jailed for 5 months for putting a sarcastic remark on his facebook page. He was bailed out $500K! WTF??????
The guy wearing the Zimmerman T-shirt was a kid wearing it in public school? In July?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163524 Jul 13, 2013
Tweet Of The Day: If I Had A Race-Baiting President… He Would Look Like This
Posted by Gateway Guest Blogger on Friday, July 12, 2013
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/tweet...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163525 Jul 13, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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.....I suppose it depends on where you live when running a self-described “suspicious looking” kid down and shooting him dead is not defined as stalking.
“Stalking legal definition
Noun
A form of harassment generally comprised of repeated persistent following with no legitimate reason and with the intention of harming, or so as to arouse anxiety or fear of harm in the person being followed”
http://law.yourdictionary.com/stalking
Hummmm, several BIG points here. Martin was shot 45 MINUTES after he let the convenience store and it was only a five minute walk back to his house. SOOOOO, what was Martin doing in those 40 extra minutes? Probably nothing more than hanging out BUT even a policeman would stop him and ask him what he was up to.
SURE, a volunteer neighborhood watch person can not stop and question someone but he can follow a suspect while waiting for a police officer and that was why GZ was on the phone with the police dispatcher.
Now you also said "running .... kid down" down and Zimmerman at no time RAN. The wind noise was just that, WIND. The local Sanford airport that the wind was 6-8 mph at the time and that was just enough to create WIND NOISE over the cell phone.
Now, how did, and why, did Trayvon RUN around the building and cut off GZ?!? Trayvon was running in the direction of his father's girl friend's house so why did he double back??? I have asked this question over and over again and you ignore it while at the same time claim that 1) GZ was racial profiling Trayvon, 2) that GZ was stalking Taryvon, 3) that he had the intention of shooting a black man all along (when he did not know what Trayvon's skin color was until several minutes into the phone call) and 4) you siad GZ PROVOKED Trayvon but will not explain how he provoked him.
What a bigoted COWARD you are!
Just answer the FRIGGIN' questions if you are not a coward.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#163526 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
I saw another story on here about a teen who was jailed for 5 months for putting a sarcastic remark on his facebook page. He was bailed out $500K! WTF??????
That 19 y/o kid in the liberal state of TEXAS?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163527 Jul 13, 2013
Going to Jail For Trayvon (Race Riots)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Hey, they found out who killed Nichole Simpson and Ron Goldman. It was O.J.'s evil twin brother Bart!
Ya know Bart? The TV star!!!!
wojar

Bristol, CT

#163528 Jul 13, 2013
Darn those liberal cops and liberal courts in that LIBTARD state of TEXAS

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163529 Jul 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Remember the kid who wore the NRA t-shirt to school and was taken away by the police? Well, check out USA Today's main page. Why is it ok for this kid to wear a t-shirt that has a picture of Zimmerman with cross-hairs on him?
......
wojar wrote:
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The guy wearing the Zimmerman T-shirt was a kid wearing it in public school? In July?
Classic Libtardian Logic. The weather dictates what Free Speech is permissible?!? What a flaming bigot you are.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#163530 Jul 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
Darn those liberal cops and liberal courts in that LIBTARD state of TEXAS
I am not sure exactly what you are commenting on but Texas has it's Liberal areas. Conservatives never would have elected some one like Sheila Jackson Lee to Congress!

Ah, if Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee is a TEXAS Congresswoman, why was she in FLORIDA??? Because she is a race baiter!!!
wojar

Bristol, CT

#163531 Jul 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Justice LRS wrote:
Remember the kid who wore the NRA t-shirt to school and was taken away by the police? Well, check out USA Today's main page. Why is it ok for this kid to wear a t-shirt that has a picture of Zimmerman with cross-hairs on him?
......
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Classic Libtardian Logic. The weather dictates what Free Speech is permissible?!? What a flaming bigot you are.
The weather? RU nuts? Schools are in session in July? Your boyfriend was mixing apples and oranges. My comment had not a thing to do with weather. Grow a brain.

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