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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#162633 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, when Jimmy Carter left, EVERY got better!
It was very appropriate that they name a submarine after Jimmy Carter as you seldom see submarines where as aircraft carriers are very visible.
Like the USS Ronald Reagan!!!
I'm sure that submarine crews will thank you for demeaning their courageous undersea service.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162634 Jul 5, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
English, jackass.
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Your trouble-making time is no more or less than your combined sucking time.
Do you know what that is?
When you suck a lot, then you have to TAKE A LOT OF time to do so.
NO MORE THAN THE COMBINED TIME means you make lots of troubles even in a short time, which can be less than the combined time.

NO less than the combined time is your time of making troubles , which can be more than the combined one (time)--That says it EQUALS TO A LOT OF TIME SPENDING for you to make troubles, AND MIGHT EXCEED ALL YOUR COMBINED SUCKING TIME.

All says---You do make lots of troubles within a short time and make the spending of lots of time doing trouble-making.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#162636 Jul 5, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
When Eisenhower was president, the far right wing conservatives said that he was a communist and a "traitor."
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And I am sure you can prove that, Tootzie?
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
If I may, herewith a Wikipedia excerpot, in case my link does not work :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society&... ;
Eisenhower issue[edit]
Welch wrote in a widely circulated statement, The Politician, "Could Eisenhower really be simply a smart politician, entirely without principles and hungry for glory, who is only the tool of the Communists? The answer is yes." He went on. "With regard to ... Eisenhower, it is difficult to avoid raising the question of deliberate treason."[53]
The controversial paragraph was removed before final publication of The Politician.[54]
The sensationalism of Welch's charges against Eisenhower prompted several conservatives and Republicans, most prominently Goldwater and the intellectuals of William F. Buckley's circle, to renounce outright or quietly shun the group. Buckley, an early friend and admirer of Welch, regarded his accusations against Eisenhower as "paranoid and idiotic libels" and attempted unsuccessfully to purge Welch from the Birch Society.[55] From then on Buckley, who was editor of National Review, became the leading intellectual spokesman and organizer of the anti-Bircher conservatives.[56] In fact, Buckley's biographer John B. Judis wrote that "Buckley was beginning to worry that with the John Birch Society growing so rapidly, the right-wing upsurge in the country would take an ugly, even Fascist turn rather than leading toward the kind of conservatism National Review had promoted."[56]
END
Tootzie? Pejorative and very very 1950s époque dépassée.
Can you F-ing read? I mean, CAN YOU F-ING READ? What does "the far right wing conservatives said"?
It was written by Robert W. Welch, Jr. who was the president of the John Birches and is an INDIVIDUAL and if he is a Conservative, Obama is a Stalinist-Communist!!!
Also, you can always find a few loonies on both sides of the political equations. Yes, IHMO Eisenhower was left of center but "Tootzie" wants to imply that everyone that is a birther, is a far right extremest when that is not the case!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#162637 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
When Eisenhower was president, the far right wing conservatives said that he was a communist and a "traitor."
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And I am sure you can prove that, Tootzie?
<quoted text>
Can you F-ing read? I mean, CAN YOU F-ING READ? What does "the far right wing conservatives said"?
It was written by Robert W. Welch, Jr. who was the president of the John Birches and is an INDIVIDUAL and if he is a Conservative, Obama is a Stalinist-Communist!!!
Also, you can always find a few loonies on both sides of the political equations. Yes, IHMO Eisenhower was left of center but "Tootzie" wants to imply that everyone that is a birther, is a far right extremest when that is not the case!
Welch was the founder of the Nazi/fascist unpatriotic traitor-like John Birch society. Don't forget that.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#162638 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, when Jimmy Carter left, EVERY got better!
It was very appropriate that they name a submarine after Jimmy Carter as you seldom see submarines where as aircraft carriers are very visible.
Like the USS Ronald Reagan!!!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure that submarine crews will thank you for demeaning their courageous undersea service.
Again Jacqueau, where did YOU READ that I demeaned any of our service men or women??? But the way, this is a cousin from my mother's side of the family who was lost on the USS Tang and did not make it home from WWII. Also note he was awarded the Sliver Star!
Now, if you want me to stop calling you Jacqueau, learn to f-ing read!!!
http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/ericksen-l-h.h...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#162639 Jul 5, 2013
P.S. : And was not speaking as an individual, but as president-founder of that looney-tooney but dangerous far-right grouping, the John Birch society.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#162640 Jul 5, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
crappiest engines : Lycoming
85% of all certified light airplane use Lycomings! The Lycoming T-53 and T-55 engines where developed in the 1950s and they are still flying. Sure Honeywell bought out their turbine engine line but the Chinooks Canada is buying come with (Lycoming) Honeywell T-55s.
Pdamerica org

Oakdale, NY

#162641 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You know he is leaving Fox News, don't you? Megyn Kelley is taking his time slot.
I don't think O'Lielly is leaving FOX NEWS Republican Propaganda Channel.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#162642 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, when Jimmy Carter left, EVERY got better!
It was very appropriate that they name a submarine after Jimmy Carter as you seldom see submarines where as aircraft carriers are very visible.
Like the USS Ronald Reagan!!!
<quoted text>
Again Jacqueau, where did YOU READ that I demeaned any of our service men or women??? But the way, this is a cousin from my mother's side of the family who was lost on the USS Tang and did not make it home from WWII. Also note he was awarded the Sliver Star!
Now, if you want me to stop calling you Jacqueau, learn to f-ing read!!!
http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/ericksen-l-h.h...
Number 1, if correctly spelled, it's Jacquot;

Number 2, did I ever object? Why the threat?

Number 3, What's with the last two posts and the f-ing vocabulary? Frustrated at being wrong at every turn and being shown proof that you ask for without ever supplying any? Still waiting for 2 requests from proof asked yesterday. And YOU ask for proof?

Number 4, You did demean submarine crews by saying carrier crews were better, example : carrier Ronald Reagan which is visible and sub Jimmy Carter which is invisible. Grateful to your cousin and all on board the Tang for their ultimate sacrifice.
Pdamerica org

Oakdale, NY

#162644 Jul 5, 2013
JBH wrote:
<quoted text>
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That is not bad that you question the presidents, PMs.
It might be true that they can do more destruction (than the average people) in their policies and many issues, but give no jobs to many people.
You are the tax-payers who should do the say in issues and policies as the majority, as they are just a few men thinking they can be kings, receiving tax money as their salaries and retirements, even doing the very wrongs.
That does not make sense.
THE ELITES ARE AGAINST LIVING WAGES:
----------

Once a politician leaves office and does not take a lobbying job on K-Street, only then are they allowed to tell the truth.

==========

They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze

Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#162645 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
He waived his right to a pretrial hearing. It does not mean he can not evoke SYG during the trial. In any event, he is claiming "self-defence".
Sorry, it means he is barred from SYG defense.

Waive: a : to relinquish voluntarily (as a legal right) <waive a jury trial>

Once pretrial SYG hearing is waived the right cannot be recaptured during trial. SYG immunity is determined in a pre-trial hearing before a judge, not by a jury. Similarly, if a defendant decides to have his case heard before a judge rather than jury, after he is convicted he cannot say, "Oops, I want a jury."
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162646 Jul 5, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
crappiest engines : Lycoming
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You the back-alley psychotic BOT, as one of the suppressed, oppressed, and under-educated hooligan, would have to know there is no place for you the filthy CANNIE everywhere.

You will live in DEEP DEPRESSION wherever you go.
AS you the damn ass sucker Cannie WILL NEVER BE CAPABLE OF GETTING OUT OF IT, YOU FEEL DEPRIVED ALL THE TIME, UNTIL YOU swirl BACK TO your CANNIE MOTHERHOOD, TO KEEP ON SUCKING YOUR MOTHER.

THERE WILL BE NO home and acceptance of you anywhere, YOU the DIRTY CANNIE BOT.
Pdamerica org

Oakdale, NY

#162647 Jul 5, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think that Vince Foster is still alive? Do you think that Barack Obama's father was not born in Kenya? Do you think that Barack Obama did not recite Muslim prayer in Indonesia? Do you not remember Obama saying he wanted to transform America? Do you not remember Obama stating that he did not like The Constitution and wanted to change it? You have a very short memory.
You are making assumptions with leaps and bounds.

How do you get from Vince Foster suicide to the Clintons murdered him?

How do you get from Obama born in Hawaii to Obama born in Kenya?

I wish Obama did not renege on all his promises, but he did.

Obama continued over 90% of all Bush/Cheney failed policy.

So in your mind the almost 2 Billion Muslims on this planet are all bad?

==========

Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.

If they did, they would have impeached:

LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.

Nixon for Watergate.

Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.

Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.

Wake Up And Smell The Coffee.

Forthwith.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#162648 Jul 5, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, it means he is barred from SYG defense.
Waive: a : to relinquish voluntarily (as a legal right) <waive a jury trial>
Once pretrial SYG hearing is waived the right cannot be recaptured during trial. SYG immunity is determined in a pre-trial hearing before a judge, not by a jury. Similarly, if a defendant decides to have his case heard before a judge rather than jury, after he is convicted he cannot say, "Oops, I want a jury."
Rogue is not too good when it comes to legal matters. ER, hmmm, and except for driving copters, seems Rogue is not too good at a lot of things.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#162649 Jul 5, 2013
JBH wrote:
<quoted text>
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Your despicable fallacy of not comprehending such words like disgusting, disgusted , "are", "is", proves you have a sicko-cell brain as well, in addition to your mouth, which means you are a sicko having a brain full of sicko virus cells in it.
You are the bad idiot, view your words below.
Almost as funny as Tacky claiming to teach others how to use a dictionary or use possessive case after his nose was shoved in it.

Grow up little boy.
Pdamerica org

Oakdale, NY

#162650 Jul 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Point 1, Newt was not the president.
Point 2, In the forth year of Newt Speakership we were a hell of a lot better off than we are in Obama's fourth year as president!!!
All the Newt Gingrich Republicans destroyed the American Middle Class and Working Poor because of NAFTA and the termination of Glass/Steagall.

The Clinton balanced budgets are all gone and can never be returned.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162651 Jul 5, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
THE ELITES ARE AGAINST LIVING WAGES:
----------
Once a politician leaves office and does not take a lobbying job on K-Street, only then are they allowed to tell the truth.
==========
They're All Against Jobs
by Senator Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze
Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6
======
Because THE ELITES ARE AFTER MONEY, THEY TEND TO USE cheap labor for low wages.
And as machines increasingly replace labor, they try to take advantage of people needing work and jobs by keeping pays low.
So, some illegal migrants will be favored in many of their labor usage aspects.
All they know is to be fat cats wanting to make themselves rich, and not wanting to take care of those who work for the real production to make them the money instead.
In that sense, they are in control, as people will have to survive to struggle to work for any wages in order to have work.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#162652 Jul 5, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure that submarine crews will thank you for demeaning their courageous undersea service.
Jimmy Carter was a submarine officer.

Ronald Reagan may have played as soldier or sailor in the movies.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, when Jimmy Carter left, EVERY got better!
It was very appropriate that they name a submarine after Jimmy Carter as you seldom see submarines where as aircraft carriers are very visible.
Like the USS Ronald Reagan!!!
Pdamerica org

Oakdale, NY

#162653 Jul 5, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right on. To this day, and is spite of tax cuts to the rich (which Harper just longs to do), Afghan and Iraqi disasters, worst recession since 1929, our Prime Minister Harper worships the ground GWB walks on. He has imitated his every move, right down to having a cortège of black SUVs to accompany is official vehicle, just like GWB'S when he was president. You won't be surprised to hear that Obama and Harper are not the best of friends and this is partly why our relations are so frosty. Worked much better when GWB was president. GWB, as opposed to Harper, could work with left and right politicians, as he proved in his excellent rapport with our liberal PMs, in spite of their opposition to Iraq. Of course, with conservative Harper, GWB had even better relations for his last 2 years.
Thanks for the data.

I did not know Canada and the USA relations were not as good as when Dumbya Bush was in charge.

Obama for the most part continued Bush/Cheney.

The average middle class citizenry have been losing ground worldwide since 1980 Reagan to present day 2013 Obama.

More accurately Alan Greenspan & Ben Bernanke!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#162654 Jul 5, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
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Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
Wake Up And Smell The Coffee.
Forthwith.
Know, you can not impeach some one of not believing in the Constitution. If that was the case four of the current Supreme Court justices would have been impeached!
And you can not impeach someone for lying either. Unless, in the case of Bill Clinton, you commit perjury in a court room!

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