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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162163 Jul 2, 2013
JBH wrote:
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It is just an opinion.
Yes, someone from US talked to me in those days about Hillary and Obama in the election. I SAID TO HIM THAT BILL CLINTON as Hillary's husband might make too many Clintons in the White house.
Right now it is too many Bush versus too many Clinton.
If there is a choice, it would be the choice inclining to Clinton than Bush (Jeb).
However, they can try out in the process with no Clinton nor Bush.
But it is up to them.
The whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.

The prostitutes in Congress mostly serve the interest of the wealthy few who own most of Washington DC.

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The Constitution 101:

In the Federalist Papers it said: We were not going to have a monarchy, and we were not going to have a democracy.$$$$$$$

And to this day we have neither. For two hundred years we have had an oligarchical system in which men of property can do well (Dumbya Bush), and others are on their own.$$$$$$$

American politics is essentially a family affair, as are most oligarchies. When the father of the Constitution, James Madison, was asked how on earth any business could get done in Congress when the country contained 100 million people whose representatives would number half a thousand, Madison took the line that oligarchy's iron law always obtains: A few people invariably run the show; and keep it, if they can, in the family.$$$$$$$

Our founding fathers had such a fear and loathing of democracy that they invented the Electoral College so that the popular voice of the people could be throttled, much as the Supreme Court throttled the Floridians on December 12, 2000.$$$$$$$

We were to be neither a democracy, subject to majoritarian tyranny, nor a dictatorship, subject to Caesarean folly.$$$$$$$

As American media is controlled by that corporate America which provides us with political candidates a well-informed electorate is not possible.$$$$$$$

“It's All Bush's Fault!”

Since: Sep 11

Washington, DC

#162164 Jul 2, 2013
Waaahhhh it's all Bush's fault!

“It's All Obama's Fault”

Since: Sep 11

Washington, DC

#162165 Jul 2, 2013
No way! It's all Obama's fault!
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162166 Jul 2, 2013
No Debate: How the Republican and Democratic Parties Secretly Control the Presidential Debates / http://tinyurl.com/4q5vf8 / October 2, 2008
The Obama and McCain campaigns jointly negotiated a detailed, secret contract dictating the terms of all the 2008 debates. This includes who gets to participate as well as the topics raised during the debates. We speak to Open Debates founder and executive director George Farah.
Whats missing however is any concern about the fairness of the very structure of the debate. The Obama and McCain campaigns jointly negotiated a detailed contract dictating the terms of all the 2008 debates. This includes who gets to participate as well as the topics raised during the debates. But the contract remains secret and the Commission on Presidential Debates, a private corporation created by the two major parties, has refused to release the contract to the public.
Open Debates is a non-profit committed to democratizing the presidential debate process. Last month Open Debates and nine other pro-democracy groups called on the Commission to make the contract public.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/2/no_deba...

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#162167 Jul 2, 2013
Jackson has been cowering behind HIPA laws ever since the moment he discovered he was under the ever-powerful Federal microscope searching for and rooting out fraud in government.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162168 Jul 2, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
<quoted text>
The whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.
The prostitutes in Congress mostly serve the interest of the wealthy few who own most of Washington DC.
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The Constitution 101:
In the Federalist Papers it said: We were not going to have a monarchy, and we were not going to have a democracy.$$$$$$$
And to this day we have neither. For two hundred years we have had an oligarchical system in which men of property can do well (Dumbya Bush), and others are on their own.$$$$$$$
American politics is essentially a family affair, as are most oligarchies. When the father of the Constitution, James Madison, was asked how on earth any business could get done in Congress when the country contained 100 million people whose representatives would number half a thousand, Madison took the line that oligarchy's iron law always obtains: A few people invariably run the show; and keep it, if they can, in the family.$$$$$$$
Our founding fathers had such a fear and loathing of democracy that they invented the Electoral College so that the popular voice of the people could be throttled, much as the Supreme Court throttled the Floridians on December 12, 2000.$$$$$$$
We were to be neither a democracy, subject to majoritarian tyranny, nor a dictatorship, subject to Caesarean folly.$$$$$$$
As American media is controlled by that corporate America which provides us with political candidates a well-informed electorate is not possible.$$$$$$$
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There is no question there is corruption among them.

Perhaps, you need to establish an oversight committee with staffing to oversee and check about their corruption and also specify codes of conduct not allowing corruption.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162169 Jul 2, 2013
JBH wrote:
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There is no question there is corruption among them.
Perhaps, you need to establish an oversight committee with staffing to oversee and check about their corruption and also specify codes of conduct not allowing corruption.
The Foxes are guarding the Hen House in Congress.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#162170 Jul 2, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
I am loving Obama's trip to Africa. The rousing crowds must be giving birfoons aneurysms.
L M A O
Yea, I loved the protests! Before they shut them down, of course. LMAO!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#162171 Jul 2, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
<quoted text>I am in agreement with you 100%.

Both corrupt parties have it all stacked against any third or fourth party to get in the game.

Wall Street always wins and "We The People" always lose.

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"Network" (1976) Howard Beale - "The Mad Prophet" Speech
http://tinyurl.com/84vus2p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =AsBuKUK2H6YXX

Charlie Chaplin final speech in The Great Dictator
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Network - "I'm as mad as hell" speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I would love to see someone sue (especially in a closed Primary State) over taxpayer funded Primaries that are only open to select parties.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162172 Jul 2, 2013
This proves spying does not work.

al Qaeda learned from La Cosa Nostra, they don't use any electronics to communicate.

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Bush's Secret Spying on Americans
August 2, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2d8ua7
The dispute over whether Attorney General Alberto Gonzales committed perjury when he parsed words about George W. Bush’s warrantless surveillance program misses a larger point: the extraordinary secrecy surrounding these spying operations is not aimed at al-Qaeda, but at the American people.

But al-Qaeda terrorists always have assumed that their electronic communications were vulnerable to interception, which is why 9/11 attackers like Mohamed Atta traveled overseas for face-to-face meetings with their handlers. They limited their phone calls to mostly routine conversations./ http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/080207.htm...
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162173 Jul 2, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
<quoted text>
The Foxes are guarding the Hen House in Congress.
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All you have to do is to keep trying and establish rules with input specified from the public, and also, ask for transparency like reports, especially on the matters of corruption.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162174 Jul 2, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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I would love to see someone sue (especially in a closed Primary State) over taxpayer funded Primaries that are only open to select parties.
Sue? You can't fight City Hall. I wish we can sue.

These two corrupt parties have every angle covered.

In this last election a former Governor was not allowed to participate. Buddy Roemer was campaigning to change the corrupt system and tell the American people the truth.

Both parties rejected him.

In 2008 Ron Paul received millions and millions of votes in the Republican party primaries and was not allowed to speak at the Republican convention.

When Hillary Clinton was running for the NY Senate her primary challenger an Authentic Liberal Progressive Jonathan Tasini and he was totally shut out by the mainstream media.

Tasini received ZERO Media exposure.

Barack Obama and Bill Clinton endorsed Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut Senate race instead of the Democratic Primary winner Ned Lamont.

Remember Ross Perot? How the mainstream/rightwing media ridiculed him as crazy.

They have every angle covered.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#162175 Jul 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Birds of a feather... stick together. Welcome to LRS's world.
JBH and Justice ha ha LRS, the new dynamic duo. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
Stop riding my coattail! Bandwagoneer! Trying to hop on the winning ride, hoping no one will notice. How utterly pathetic of you! Although, it's exactly what we expect from you. Did you know it's impossible for you to let anyone down? LMAO!!!
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162176 Jul 2, 2013
Opensecrets org "]<quoted text>
Obama continued over 90% of all Bush/Cheney policy.
They are the elites and there is nothing anyone can do but to vote in Jeb "Corporate" Bush or Hillary "Corporate" Clinton in 2016.
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It is just saying.
In regard to age, Hillary is not too old to be considered for prospective of next presidency.
The criteria whether Bill Clinton will get involved in the policies is the concern.
Based on the former GW's behaviors, it looks like Jeb Bush will most likely be another GW in the way of acts and policies.
El Cid

Mcdonough, GA

#162177 Jul 2, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
I am loving Obama's trip to Africa. The rousing crowds must be giving birfoons aneurysms.
L M A O
I hope he stays where he is loved!
Oh, did you see his speech in Berlin recently? Only 6,000 showed up. That compares to the 200,000 that showed up the last him he was there four years ago!
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162178 Jul 2, 2013
JBH wrote:
<quoted text>
++====
All you have to do is to keep trying and establish rules with input specified from the public, and also, ask for transparency like reports, especially on the matters of corruption.
It is very hard for transparency these days.

Truth be told there are very few investigative journalist especially with the corporate taking air heads on corporate rightwing media and corporate mainstream media.

Thank GOD for the internet.

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OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
http://tinyurl.com/bvfdak5


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The U.S. establishment media in a nutshell
April 5, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/8xp26v
In the past two weeks, the following events transpired. A Department of Justice memo, authored by John Yoo, was released which authorized torture and presidential lawbreaking. It was revealed that the Bush administration declared the Fourth Amendment of the Bill of Rights to be inapplicable to "domestic military operations" within the U.S. The U.S. Attorney General appears to have fabricated a key event leading to the 9/11 attacks and made patently false statements about surveillance laws and related lawsuits. Barack Obama went bowling in Pennsylvania and had a low score.
Here are the number of times, according to NEXIS, that various topics have been mentioned in the media over the past thirty days:

"Yoo and torture" - 102
"Mukasey and 9/11" -- 73
"Yoo and Fourth Amendment" -- 16
"Obama and bowling" -- 1,043
"Obama and Wright" -- More than 3,000 (too many to be counted)
"Obama and patriotism" - 1,607
"Clinton and Lewinsky" -- 1,079
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#162179 Jul 2, 2013
JBH wrote:
Opensecrets org "]<quoted text>
Obama continued over 90% of all Bush/Cheney policy.
They are the elites and there is nothing anyone can do but to vote in Jeb "Corporate" Bush or Hillary "Corporate" Clinton in 2016.
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It is just saying.
In regard to age, Hillary is not too old to be considered for prospective of next presidency.
The criteria whether Bill Clinton will get involved in the policies is the concern.
Based on the former GW's behaviors, it looks like Jeb Bush will most likely be another GW in the way of acts and policies.
IMO there is little difference between corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats on big ticket items.

NAFTA proves that.

Look who showed up at the Clinton/Gore White House to sell NAFTA to our masses.

Pres. Ford, Pres. Carter, Pres. Bush41 and Reagan would have been there but he was too sick.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#162180 Jul 2, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
<quoted text>Sue? You can't fight City Hall. I wish we can sue.

These two corrupt parties have every angle covered.

In this last election a former Governor was not allowed to participate. Buddy Roemer was campaigning to change the corrupt system and tell the American people the truth.

Both parties rejected him.

In 2008 Ron Paul received millions and millions of votes in the Republican party primaries and was not allowed to speak at the Republican convention.

When Hillary Clinton was running for the NY Senate her primary challenger an Authentic Liberal Progressive Jonathan Tasini and he was totally shut out by the mainstream media.

Tasini received ZERO Media exposure.

Barack Obama and Bill Clinton endorsed Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut Senate race instead of the Democratic Primary winner Ned Lamont.

Remember Ross Perot? How the mainstream/rightwing media ridiculed him as crazy.

They have every angle covered.
It's not winning the suit. It is watching the hypocrites trying to defend the system.(Especially the faux cons that love big govt as long as it is doing their bidding)
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#162181 Jul 2, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
<quoted text>
It is very hard for transparency these days.
Truth be told there are very few investigative journalist especially with the corporate taking air heads on corporate rightwing media and corporate mainstream media.
Thank GOD for the internet.
==========
OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
http://tinyurl.com/bvfdak5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lFDwdRXCg3IXX
=========
The U.S. establishment media in a nutshell
April 5, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/8xp26v
In the past two weeks, the following events transpired. A Department of Justice memo, authored by John Yoo, was released which authorized torture and presidential lawbreaking. It was revealed that the Bush administration declared the Fourth Amendment of the Bill of Rights to be inapplicable to "domestic military operations" within the U.S. The U.S. Attorney General appears to have fabricated a key event leading to the 9/11 attacks and made patently false statements about surveillance laws and related lawsuits. Barack Obama went bowling in Pennsylvania and had a low score.
Here are the number of times, according to NEXIS, that various topics have been mentioned in the media over the past thirty days:
"Yoo and torture" - 102
"Mukasey and 9/11" -- 73
"Yoo and Fourth Amendment" -- 16
"Obama and bowling" -- 1,043
"Obama and Wright" -- More than 3,000 (too many to be counted)
"Obama and patriotism" - 1,607
"Clinton and Lewinsky" -- 1,079
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It is true as Obama protocols much to the Corporate.
But it seems he has not taken care of the average to poor people, especially in the jobs area.

NAFTA is not going too far, as US has turned to China to replace Canada, as the largest trading partner.
The juncture of NORAD which is a joint effort of both US and Canada standpoint to oversee North America's airspace is still there.

But people see too much tilting to US these days, as it is no more like before. Examples are unlike Vietnam era, as many of those Iraq deserters or some from AFGHANISTAN WERE TURNED BACK to US.
Hence, there is no way Snowden would come to Canada, as he will definitely be extradited.

This premier seems not interested in US but foreigners and immigrants, as that tells that they are more International-oriented these days.

Yet, if other Party takes over the future government, there may be possible of some change.

People don't want snooping but more freedom in beliefs and say whatever they want, to like or not like anyone or country.

Cold war is over. This is the new time for the changing world. People here are full of those from everywhere, of which many are new comers and generations. Some older ones may have gone to you there for retirement.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#162182 Jul 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Yea, I loved the protests! Before they shut them down, of course. LMAO!
Oh, I was not aware of protests. I'm sure you'll want to refer us to news articles about them.

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