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Hummmm, we knew Facebook had been politically censoring sites and it looks like this time the back paddle. I wonder when someone will expose Forum's selected censoring?
Can't use the n-word on Forum even when you are talking about a certain African country that Amb. Joe Wilson visited but you can call white people crackers all you want.
Facebook Blocks, Restores 'Politically Incorrect' Post of Fox Radio's Todd Starnes
By Tom Blumer | June 30, 2013
Any doubt that there is a serious problem with leftists imitating the Thought Police in George Orwell's 1984 and scouring the Internet to silence free expression pretty much disappears once you see what they were able to have temporarily removed from the Facebook page of Fox Radio's Todd Starnes. And while it's a relief that the post has been restored, consider how many others without the Fox host's visibility may be having their posts removed with far less recourse.
Full text of the post, which has since been restored, along with the takedown notice Starnes reports he received, follow the jump (HT Fire Andrea Mitchell via I Hate the Media; click to enlarge in a separate tab or window):
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/...
Facebook is owned by investors and is not a government agency. That's capitalism. If you don't like fb, then don't use it.

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Hummm, BATF just promotes Fast and Furious supervisor who had lost 2,000 guns!!!
In the Army we called that F-up and Move up!

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Hummmm, we knew Facebook had been politically censoring sites and it looks like this time the back paddle. I wonder when someone will expose Forum's selected censoring?
Can't use the n-word on Forum even when you are talking about a certain African country that Amb. Joe Wilson visited but you can call white people crackers all you want.
Facebook Blocks, Restores 'Politically Incorrect' Post of Fox Radio's Todd Starnes
By Tom Blumer | June 30, 2013
Any doubt that there is a serious problem with leftists imitating the Thought Police in George Orwell's 1984 and scouring the Internet to silence free expression pretty much disappears once you see what they were able to have temporarily removed from the Facebook page of Fox Radio's Todd Starnes. And while it's a relief that the post has been restored, consider how many others without the Fox host's visibility may be having their posts removed with far less recourse.
Full text of the post, which has since been restored, along with the takedown notice Starnes reports he received, follow the jump (HT Fire Andrea Mitchell via I Hate the Media; click to enlarge in a separate tab or window):
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/...
FYI, Rogue, Topix only censors spam, which AL is wont to do all the time, and out-and-out profanity which you use now and then when you're backed against the wall and which Justice Ha Ha uses ALL the time, even when not backed up against the wall which is, it's true, not often.
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Do you know when World War One (The Great War) ended? October 2010!!! How about the Korean War? It hasn't!!! When did the Persian Gulf War end? Come on now, when did the Persian Gulf War END???
There are only two ways any war ends. When there is a Peace Treaty or when one side Capitulates. The combat of WWI was suspended on Nov. 11, 1917 but ended when war reparations were finally paid in Oct. 2010.
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It is very sad that Liberals seem to understand things they read but they really don't. It is called the Kaleidoscope Effect which is caused by smoking way too much wicked weed.
First off, I don't smoke or drink.

Secondly, What the HECK are you talking about ending wars.

Thirdly, The CIA came out publicly against Bush and Cheney for LYING about WMD in Iraq. Remember Yellowcake?

A Quick Aside: You do remember the CIA August 6, 2001 memo telling Bush, "al Qaeda determined to strike in United States", don't you?

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In 1981 the Army had a Chinook crash which killed one and cost $8M to rebuild the aircraft and the person who caused it was a SSG (Staff Sergeant) aircraft electrician.
A little over a year later the same SSG caused a Chinook to over speed it's power-train costing another $2 M in repairs so the commander refused him to work on any of his aircraft.
Sooo, the sent him to Fort Eustis, VA as an instructor to teach .... aircraft electronics repair!!! Yep, F-up and move up!
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God never told us that there is illness.
Well, GOD told Bush are few things. LOL

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God told me to invade, says Bush
LONDON October 7, 2005
US PRESIDENT George Bush has said that he was instructed by God to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new BBC series.
The claim comes from the first meeting between the US leader, the Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (also known as Abu Mazen), and his then foreign minister in June 2003./ http://tinyurl.com/b4zdw

The ministers say that Mr Bush also revealed to them that he had been told by God to create a Palestinian state.

Former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath, now the Information Minister, describes the meeting with the US leader, in the BBC2 program, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs.

He says: "President Bush said to all of us:'I'm driven with a mission from God'.
"God would tell me,'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did, and then God would tell me,'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ...' And I did.

"And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me,'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'.
"And by God I'm gonna do it."
Mr Abbas, who was also at the meeting in the Egyptian resort of Sharm al-Sheikh, recounts how the President told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation.

"So I will get you a Palestinian state."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/iraq/god-told-m...

Bush: God told me to invade Iraq
President 'revealed reasons for war in private meeting'
07 October 2005 / http://tinyurl.com/a8w5n
President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians.
The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a BBC series which will be broadcast this month.
In the programme Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, which starts on Monday, the former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me,'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me,'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."
And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me:'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."

Mr Abbas remembers how the US President told him he had a "moral and religious obligation" to act. The White House has refused to comment on what it terms a private conversation. But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given how throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith.
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Bush reportedly wants to sodomize bin Laden
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Speaking of George Bush, with whom Sharon developed a very close relationship, Uri Dan recalls that Sharon's delicacy made him reluctant to repeat what the president had told him when they discussed Osama bin Laden. Finally he relented. And here is what the leader of the Western world, valiant warrior in the battle of cultures, promised to do to bin Laden if he caught him: "I will screw him in the A$$!"
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/826601.ht...
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In 1981 the Army had a Chinook crash which killed one and cost $8M to rebuild the aircraft and the person who caused it was a SSG (Staff Sergeant) aircraft electrician.
A little over a year later the same SSG caused a Chinook to over speed it's power-train costing another $2 M in repairs so the commander refused him to work on any of his aircraft.
Sooo, the sent him to Fort Eustis, VA as an instructor to teach .... aircraft electronics repair!!! Yep, F-up and move up!
Helicopter Lands in Hudson River

June 30, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/mdq6vjr

A quick-thinking pilot safely landed a helicopter on the Hudson River Sunday morning after the aircraft's engine failed midair during a routine sightseeing flight with a family of four Swedish tourists, authorities said.

The pilot, Michael Campbell, 22 years old, said he was flying north roughly 1,500 feet above the Hudson at about 120 mph when the engine shut down. He put out a mayday call and then addressed his passengers: "I told them we were going down and to just relax," he said in an interview.

Less than 20 seconds later, the helicopter was floating on two emergency pontoons that Mr. Campbell had engaged as he glided the aircraft down near the West 79th Street Boat Basin.

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In 1981 the Army had a Chinook crash which killed one and cost $8M to rebuild the aircraft and the person who caused it was a SSG (Staff Sergeant) aircraft electrician.
A little over a year later the same SSG caused a Chinook to over speed it's power-train costing another $2 M in repairs so the commander refused him to work on any of his aircraft.
Sooo, the sent him to Fort Eustis, VA as an instructor to teach .... aircraft electronics repair!!! Yep, F-up and move up!
Remember, Rogue, he who can, does, and he who cannot, teaches.

In my life, I've read and heard and seen to a certain extent the best physicists, doctors, engineers, political scientists, economists, who were the worst-ever teachers and practitioners of pedagogy. On the other hand, others who were failures when trying to apply their theories to their trade were huge successes in education. It's how you teach, Rogue, not how you do. Great brains probably expect too much of their students and thereby skip too many essentials. Not generalizing, mind you, as the opposite if also often true.
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Now Fox News is reporting is that the co$t of health (Obama Care) care is the biggest subject. It Fox News over emphasizing that issue .... or is CNN downplaying that issue?!?
BART strike to paralyze San Francisco commute
By Holly Yan and Dave Alsup, CNN, Mon July 1, 2013
....Rice also said BART also offered to reduce the amount of employee contributions originally requested for pension and medical benefits.....
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/01/us/california-b...
Liberal Progressives wanted Single Payer Medicare For All Healthcare. Even the Public Option was off the table with these corporate centrist Democrats.

Corporate centrist Democrats like Obama, Reid and Pelosi wanted the use the same template as Bush/Cheney Senior Citizen Prescription Drug Bills in 2003 & 2006.

ALL AMERICAN SENIORS ARE STILL PAYING THE HIGHEST PRICES FOR MEDICINES.

What Republican Congressman Billy Tauzin did for Bush, Democratic Senator Max Baucus did for Obama.

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Watchdog Group Sues for Disclosure of White House Meetings with Healthcare Execs / July 23, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/mby2t4
I want to just talk about some of the names, as they’ve released this, naming some of the healthcare executives who have made multiple trips to the Obama White House.
Richard Umbdenstock, the president of the American Hospital Association, has visited the White House eight times since Obama took office, beginning on February 3rd, two weeks after Obama’s inauguration.
Former Congressman Billy Tauzin has visited five times, now head of the drug industry lobby, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, known as PhRMA.
Dr. James Rohack, president-elect of the American Medical Association, has visited four times, as has Karen Ignagni, president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry trade group.
Other healthcare executives who have made multiple visits to the Obama White House include Jeffrey Kindler, CEO of drugmaker Pfizer; Stephen Hemsley, chief executive of UnitedHealth Group; George Halvorson, head of Kaiser Foundation Health Plan; Richard Clark, CEO of the Merck pharmaceutical company; Jay Gellert, CEO of Health Net; and Rick Smith, senior vice president of PhRMA, which Billy Tauzin heads.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/23/watchdo...

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First off, I don't smoke or drink.
Secondly, What the HECK are you talking about ending wars.
Thirdly, The CIA came out publicly against Bush and Cheney for LYING about WMD in Iraq. Remember Yellowcake?
A Quick Aside: You do remember the CIA August 6, 2001 memo telling Bush, "al Qaeda determined to strike in United States", don't you?
Caesar's legions invaded Britannia (Britain) in 50 BC. To this day, no peace accord has been signed formally ending that war, meaning, according to Rogue's logic, that Rome and Britain are still in a state of war.

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First off, I don't smoke or drink.
Secondly, What the HECK are you talking about ending wars.
Thirdly, The CIA came out publicly against Bush and Cheney for LYING about WMD in Iraq. Remember Yellowcake?
A Quick Aside: You do remember the CIA August 6, 2001 memo telling Bush, "al Qaeda determined to strike in United States", don't you?
Yes, and Amb. Joe Wilson LIED about Iraq trying to buy yellowcake from that country in Africa whose name I am not allowed to write down. And Colon Powell withheld information about that incident from Bush and he was forced to resign.
Oh, why was the lawsuit against Scooter Libby by Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame tossed out and why did Valery Plame RESIGN from the CIA???

Wilson v. Cheney[edit]
Main article: Wilson v. Cheney
On July 13, 2006, Joseph and Valerie Wilson filed a civil lawsuit against Rove, Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney, and other unnamed senior White House officials (among whom they later added Richard Armitage) for their alleged role in the public disclosure of Valerie Wilson's classified CIA status. Judge John D. Bates dismissed the Wilsons' lawsuit on jurisdictional grounds on July 19, 2007; the Wilsons appealed. On August 12, 2008, in a 2-1 decision, the three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld the dismissal. Melanie Sloan, of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which represents the Wilsons, "said the group will request the full D.C. Circuit to review the case and appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court." Agreeing with the Bush administration, the Obama Justice Department argues the Wilsons have no legitimate grounds to sue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame

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I was cleaning my basement yesterday and found a stack of old magazines from many countries, and notably Newsweek and Time . Herewith some excerpts from the Sept 6, 1976 issue, fully 37 years ago. This one is a survey conducted in the U.S.:

Do you favor a comprehensive national health bill?

Yes : 61%à
No : 23%

Do you favor increasing the defense budget?

Yes : 45%
No: 44%

Do you favour registration of all hand guns?
Yes : 65%
No : 30%

Well, history shows how the elected representatives respect the will of its citizens. Yeah, sure.

Then a HEADLINE with the story :

A LONG, HOT SUMMER FOR DETROIT.(reminder this is Sept 1976) This at a time when Detroit was speeding along on all GM, Ford and Chrysler cylinders.

Well, Rogue, what's new? Who was president, which party held power then?

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Caesar's legions invaded Britannia (Britain) in 50 BC. To this day, no peace accord has been signed formally ending that war, meaning, according to Rogue's logic, that Rome and Britain are still in a state of war.
When you TOTALLY defeat a people, the war is OVER. Saddamn Hussen did not surrender but he is dead so a surrender from him is ...... moot!
Oh, after Germany surrendered at the end of WWII, did the hostilities stop? Not totally. We had to ferret out the werewolves!

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Remember, Rogue, he who can, does, and he who cannot, teaches.
In my life, I've read and heard and seen to a certain extent the best physicists, doctors, engineers, political scientists, economists, who were the worst-ever teachers and practitioners of pedagogy. On the other hand, others who were failures when trying to apply their theories to their trade were huge successes in education. It's how you teach, Rogue, not how you do. Great brains probably expect too much of their students and thereby skip too many essentials. Not generalizing, mind you, as the opposite if also often true.
So that's why we have so many idiots as college professors!

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I was cleaning my basement yesterday and found a stack of old magazines from many countries, and notably Newsweek and Time . Herewith some excerpts from the Sept 6, 1976 issue, fully 37 years ago. This one is a survey conducted in the U.S.:
Do you favor a comprehensive national health bill?
Yes : 61%à
No : 23%
Do you favor increasing the defense budget?
Yes : 45%
No: 44%
Do you favour registration of all hand guns?
Yes : 65%
No : 30%
Well, history shows how the elected representatives respect the will of its citizens. Yeah, sure.
Then a HEADLINE with the story :
A LONG, HOT SUMMER FOR DETROIT.(reminder this is Sept 1976) This at a time when Detroit was speeding along on all GM, Ford and Chrysler cylinders.
Well, Rogue, what's new? Who was president, which party held power then?
You should have been reading U.S. News instead!
Oh, are you some sort of pack rat? 40 years of magazines?!?

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For Rogue : Cost of a gallon of gasoline in 1967 was $1.87 per.

Based on rate of inflation of 2% per year since then (very modest, that 2%, as in some years, it was as high as 18%), cost of a gallon today should be $3.62 per gallon. Well, well, isn't that what it generally is? Now, if you based it on the REAL rate of inflation, imagine what it would be...$4.00, 4.50 a gallon?

Good work, Obama.**

** I know it has little to do with him, but seeing as you blamed him when the gallon cost $4.80 last year, fair is fair, give him credit.

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Liberal Progressives wanted Single Payer Medicare For All Healthcare. Even the Public Option was off the table with these corporate centrist Democrats.
Corporate centrist Democrats like Obama, Reid and Pelosi wanted the use the same template as Bush/Cheney Senior Citizen Prescription Drug Bills in 2003 & 2006.
ALL AMERICAN SENIORS ARE STILL PAYING THE HIGHEST PRICES FOR MEDICINES.
What Republican Congressman Billy Tauzin did for Bush, Democratic Senator Max Baucus did for Obama.
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Watchdog Group Sues for Disclosure of White House Meetings with Healthcare Execs / July 23, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/mby2t4
I want to just talk about some of the names, as they’ve released this, naming some of the healthcare executives who have made multiple trips to the Obama White House.
Richard Umbdenstock, the president of the American Hospital Association, has visited the White House eight times since Obama took office, beginning on February 3rd, two weeks after Obama’s inauguration.
Former Congressman Billy Tauzin has visited five times, now head of the drug industry lobby, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, known as PhRMA.
Dr. James Rohack, president-elect of the American Medical Association, has visited four times, as has Karen Ignagni, president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry trade group.
Other healthcare executives who have made multiple visits to the Obama White House include Jeffrey Kindler, CEO of drugmaker Pfizer; Stephen Hemsley, chief executive of UnitedHealth Group; George Halvorson, head of Kaiser Foundation Health Plan; Richard Clark, CEO of the Merck pharmaceutical company; Jay Gellert, CEO of Health Net; and Rick Smith, senior vice president of PhRMA, which Billy Tauzin heads.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/23/watchdo...
Ooooo, the evil private sector. Why does that bother you? It does not seem to both you that trade unions have more access to the White House than any other groups but those evil corporations, why they are just ...evil.
Do you know who owns the worlds largest jet air taxi service, Net Jets? It is Obama's corporate buddy Jimmy Buffet's little brother Warren!
Yep, it is evil for GM, Ford, etc. to own private jets but it is okay for union leaders to fly around on Warren's jets!!!

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You should have been reading U.S. News instead!
Oh, are you some sort of pack rat? 40 years of magazines?!?
1. Well, then, tell me what U.S. News reported in sept 1967. Can't? Well, you'll have to take Time's word for it;

2. Yes, I am.

Interesting stuff on what Nixon said to his close advisors during and after Watergate.

Funny, those pictures of fairly-young Art Buchwald and Ethel Kennedy playing tennis.

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Several years ago I owned a one-quarter fractional of a Cessna 182. There was several problems. One is that I could not take the plane out for more than three days at a time while one of our co-owners seemed to be a day or two late when he had our plane out.
I mean, I am the type of guy that if I agree to an arrangement, I stick by it. But it seems you always have one guy who thinks he is the exception.
Oh, I took MY plane out for three weeks!!! By I am the sole owner and I can do that. I spent two weeks visiting my mom in Salina, KS and am visiting my daughter this week before I head home.
Mean while my girl friend is visiting her family. Hummm, I'm getting a little horny lately.
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You should have been reading U.S. News instead!
Oh, are you some sort of pack rat? 40 years of magazines?!?
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Is that so odd, with 40 years of magazines?

Someone like he, is just living in the cave as his calling the basement for 40 years of magazines reading in order to come up with baloney matters saying.

Or else, otherwise, he has fear for being bashed all the time for knowing nothing because he has nothing in his head by reliance on the so old 40 years stuff.

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