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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: May 10

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#161822 Jun 30, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
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MI6 chief told PM Tony Blair: Americans ‘fixed’ case for war
March 20, 2005 / http://tinyurl.com/n3x7y3b
THE HEAD of MI6 told Tony Blair that the case for war against Iraq was being “fixed” by the Americans to suit the policy, according to a BBC documentary that will reignite its battle with the government.
Blair followed the US lead by failing to reveal publicly doubts about the quality of intelligence that he had requested to support the case for war, the programme claims.
Sir Richard Dearlove, head of MI6, briefed Blair and a select group of ministers on America’s determination to press ahead with the war nine months before hostilities began.
After attending a briefing in Washington, he told the meeting that war was “inevitable”. Dearlove said “the facts and intelligence” were being “fixed round the policy” by George W Bush’s administration /
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_n...
Yep, NO NAMES. Isn't it funny how all of this come out AFTER a war!
Why did Colon Powell wait until January 2005 to resign. Do you also know that MAJOR Powell was the initial investigating officer into the My Lai Massacre and tried to cover it up. Fore that alone I have contempt for the man!
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161823 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Sorry, I take offence at this. I know we should preach to the sinners but you don't have to step down into the gutter with them
Rappin' for Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Kppx4bzfAaEXX
Funny stuff.

lol
Frank

Spokane, WA

#161824 Jun 30, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
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Colin Powell Saying He Was Misled Before UN Speech on WMDs
http://tinyurl.com/6n9tg2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =2ZTLmOoPzjsXX&feature=rel ated
Powell Says US Should Not Have Invaded Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/6zdvju
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Colin Powell should not have endorsed Obama.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161825 Jun 30, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Listen Sunshine, Saddam Hussein was an enormous threat to not only his neighbors, but the stability of the whole middle-eastern region as a whole.
Where were you hiding out when the 'Butcher of Baghdad' over-ran Kuwait in August of 19 and 91?
Tell us, loose, how everything has improved in Iraq and neighbouring countries since Saddam's demise. How losing over 150,000 dead, of which 4500 Americans 32, wounded, over $2 trillion for unpaid war and subsequent recession. Things are better now? Could Saddam, hard as the S.O.B. tried, have succeeded in killing so many people? Would Saddam have allowed AlQaeda into Iraq? Would he have befriended and made an alliance with...Iran? How are things now compared to pre-2002? Was it worth all those lives, wounded, money?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161826 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, Zimmerman was talking to 911 for minutes before Martin jumped him. And what was Martin do? Why he was talking to some ghetto trash about creepy crackers!!!!
He should never have been indicted much less tried but thanks to our race-baiter in the White House we have to jump through hoops to prove Zimmerman was innocent all alone.
Yup, Martin uttered "cracker". Wow. Bang. Dead. That'll teach you. Imagine how many "crackers" would be dead today if someone shot them for using the "N" word.

Why don't I feel offended if someone calls me "Whitey" or "Cracker"? Is it because those words do not represent slavery and lynchings and missed opportunities and plain old racism?
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161827 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, NO NAMES. Isn't it funny how all of this come out AFTER a war!
Why did Colon Powell wait until January 2005 to resign. Do you also know that MAJOR Powell was the initial investigating officer into the My Lai Massacre and tried to cover it up. Fore that alone I have contempt for the man!
Yes, I do know that.

I'm glad you brought it up.

Not many people know that about Powell.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161828 Jun 30, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
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Paul Pillar served for 30 years as an analyst at the CIA, finishing his career as the national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia.
Question: At least the way the story is told by [journalist] Bob Woodward, is that even then the president is asking Rumsfeld to begin war plans.[Counterterrorism expert] Richard Clarke reports that [there is] lots of conversation about "Let's get ready." That's the fall [of 2001]. You're the Middle East guy for the Central Intelligence Agency, and you're not receiving any formal requests, any requests for information, any intelligence requests?...
Pillar
I did not receive any requests from a policy-maker on Iraq until about a year into the war. Now, this is to be distinguished from our military, which was doing a lot of the planning work and making many, many requests, usually at other levels, but some of my colleagues in the National Intelligence Council were involved in supporting the military planning. But no, I did not.
Q
A year into the war meaning when?
Pillar
Meaning close to mid-2004.... Remember, things like the infamous National Intelligence Estimate [NIE] on weapons of mass destruction, which was published in the fall of 2002, that was not requested by the administration; that was requested by Congress.
Q
Wait a minute. The Bush administration, the vice president, president, did not ever ask the Central Intelligence Agency for an intelligence assessment?
Pillar
I want to be precise. From my seat on the National Intelligence Council,... not just the CIA but the entire intelligence community,... no, I did not receive any request on Iraq.... There were other requests being made, from DIA to CIA, particularly by the military as they faced their very awesome job of planning.
Q
But not the vice president?
Pillar
No, sir.
Q
Not the president? Not the national security adviser?
Pillar
The course had already been set.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darks...
My gawd are you clueless on military planning. There are contingency planning going on all the time and much of that with out a call from the president.
In the Fall of 1985 Pres. Reagan announced he was going to send four CHINOOK helicopters to Sudan and at ten pm I got a call to report for work. We worked until six am and then submitted our plans to the next higher HQ and went house to rest and wait. And we waited, and waited, and waited.
After a week we found out that they had contracted with Evergreen Helicopters to sent four BV-1o7s to the Sudan. The Chinooks are also made by Boeing Vertol but Chinooks are BV-234s and BV-107s are not Chinooks but look similar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Vertol_CH...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-47_Chinook
wojar

Bristol, CT

#161829 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, the rich create jobs. 90% of all millionaires as self made. Just look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. How about Shad who spent his first night in America ina $2 a night YMCA room.
Shahid "Shad" Khan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan
Yep, Shad comes to America with pocket change and now he is a multi-millionaire!
~40% of Forbes 400 richest had substantial family help, and 1/4 of those inherited enough to be on the list without lifting finger, Mr. Bullshitter.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#161830 Jun 30, 2013
Take a good look at your sweet little Saddam! Imagine if he had been left in power. End game!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_... 's_Iraq
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161831 Jun 30, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Tell us, loose, how everything has improved in Iraq and neighbouring countries since Saddam's demise. How losing over 150,000 dead, of which 4500 Americans 32, wounded, over $2 trillion for unpaid war and subsequent recession. Things are better now? Could Saddam, hard as the S.O.B. tried, have succeeded in killing so many people? Would Saddam have allowed AlQaeda into Iraq? Would he have befriended and made an alliance with...Iran? How are things now compared to pre-2002? Was it worth all those lives, wounded, money?
Every word is TRUE.

Sad, but true.

P.S. Saddam even allowed Woman in his government. The teenagers had an 11pm curfew but were allowed to frequent clubs.

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Dr. Germ and Mrs. Anthrax Set Free
http://tinyurl.com/7nzsn Dec 27, 2005

Why is it not bigger news that those infamous Iraqi female scientists once routinely referred to in the media as “Dr. Germ” and “Mrs. Anthrax” have been quietly released from imprisonment in Iraq without any charges being brought by their U.S. captors? Don’t the newspapers and TV networks that all but pre-convicted them of crimes against humanity owe them—and us—the courtesy of an explanation for the sudden presumption of their innocence?

After all, it was to stop these mad leaders of Saddam Hussein’s allegedly booming weapons-of-mass-destruction programs that the United States invaded Iraq in March 2003. We were told at the time by the White House that the U.N. inspectors scouring the country were being blocked by lying officials and scientists, themselves complicit in breaking U.N. sanctions, and so we wouldn’t get the truth until we could interrogate them as prisoners. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/12282005_...
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161832 Jun 30, 2013
wojar wrote:
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~40% of Forbes 400 richest had substantial family help, and 1/4 of those inherited enough to be on the list without lifting finger, Mr. Bullshitter.
Donald "WIG" Trump comes to mind.

Daddy Trump started that business.
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161833 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
My gawd are you clueless on military planning. There are contingency planning going on all the time and much of that with out a call from the president.
In the Fall of 1985 Pres. Reagan announced he was going to send four CHINOOK helicopters to Sudan and at ten pm I got a call to report for work. We worked until six am and then submitted our plans to the next higher HQ and went house to rest and wait. And we waited, and waited, and waited.
After a week we found out that they had contracted with Evergreen Helicopters to sent four BV-1o7s to the Sudan. The Chinooks are also made by Boeing Vertol but Chinooks are BV-234s and BV-107s are not Chinooks but look similar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Vertol_CH...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-47_Chinook
Of course logistics is very important.

So why did Rummy trash 10 years of Iraq war planning?
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161834 Jun 30, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Colin Powell should not have endorsed Obama.
Powell chose Obama instead of McCain.
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161835 Jun 30, 2013
The Night of the Generals
April 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/yllqfpr
The six retired generals who stepped forward last spring to publicly attack Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's handling of the Iraq war had to overcome a culture of reticence based on civilian control of the military. But while each man acted separately, all shared one experience: a growing outrage over the administration's incompetence, leading some of the nation's finest soldiers to risk their reputations and cross a time-honored line.

Lieutenant General Greg Newbold, former director of operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff; retired from the Marines with three stars in 2002.

Major General Paul Eaton, West Point graduate; oversaw the creation of the new Iraqi Army until 2004. Retired with two stars in 2006

Major General John Batiste, former commander of the First Infantry Division; retired with two stars in November 2005.

Major General John Riggs, Vietnam veteran; headed army's Objective Force Task Force. Retired in April 2004 after losing one of his three stars

Major General Charles Swannack Jr., West Point graduate; commanded the 82nd Airborne in Iraq until 2004, making 153 jumps himself. Retired with two stars in 2004.

Lieutenant General Paul Van Riper, Vietnam veteran; retired as a Marine three-star in 1997. Served as a consultant to Rumsfeld's Pentagon
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2...
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#161836 Jun 30, 2013
COULD US STILL BE A SUPERPOWER?

There is no need to read others' wording to come up with an opinion, or copy theirs.

Simply, it might be useful to skip many of those comments writing a line of words like, "What a bozo", "It looks like a son of a gun", "SOB", "BS", or " I am interested in many issues. I want to know the world's affairs", "I would like anyone to give me some enlightening."

However, if you write some English lines like, "Having done many input of matters related to issues of economy, health care, matters concerning global affairs and so on in the past, here is to offer the discussion to enlighten many's minds. Your interests in forging what the direction for this world would be as, needs some discussions, whereby some highlights would be given."

Then, there is no dumb soul but somebody speaking out there.
Grand Birther

United States

#161837 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Oh course he says that. He is a loony-lefty. I worked with him in Germany when he was the V Corp commander and again at Fort McPherson, Atlanta, GA when he was the CinC of FORSCOM.
In fact I met Alma before I met him. At Fort Mc he was driving a ten year old light blue Buick station-wagon to work. I know he and Alma had some kids but how many I have no idea.
At Fort Mc they lived in the FDR house.
From Wiki: Quarters 10 is the centerpiece of Staff Row. Completed in 1892, the three-story home has 12-foot (3.7 m)-high ceilings on the first floor, 11-foot (3.4 m)-high ceilings on the second, and semicircular front windows in the turret. In 1925, Gen. Douglas MacArthur was assigned to Fort McPherson as post commander. Since his wife refused to live in the quarters, they rented an apartment downtown near the Fox Theatre. The MacArthurs left after having spent 89 days at Fort McPherson, when he was reassigned to Baltimore. A sleeping porch was added to the back of the quarters in 1935 for President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s visits while he was en route to Warm Springs, Georgia.
LMAO at Rogue Moron pretending he had any sort of contact with Colin Powel and Ronald Reagan. You're an idiot helicopter piolot and no one gives a shat.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161838 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the rich create jobs. 90% of all millionaires as self made. Just look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. How about Shad who spent his first night in America ina $2 a night YMCA room.
Shahid "Shad" Khan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan
Yep, Shad comes to America with pocket change and now he is a multi-millionaire!
I understand that this 90% started their own businesses, were self-employed. not employed by banks and brokers. 3.2 million billionaires. All self-made, right?

BTW, would you mind giving us some proof of what you advance, namely that 90%of all millionaires are self-made. And please don't tell me to learn Google and find it myself. You stated it, YOU back it up. You said you ALWAYS had a link for what you advance, did you not?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161839 Jun 30, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
More enemies! Good job Obumbler!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/30/eu...
Fool. What do you know? Nations, friendly nations, have been bugging each other since time immemorial. The main accusers, the Germans, do it too. Everybody does it. What a bunch of hypocrites. Poor babies. The US does it to Germany and vice-versa, France does it to the US, and vice-versa. And so forth. Wake up, slug.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#161840 Jun 30, 2013
How and Why The Media Got It So Wrong - The Zimmerman Case - Packaged and Sold By Ryan Julison, Benjamin Crump, Natalie Jackson

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/06/3...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161841 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Sorry, I take offence at this. I know we should preach to the sinners but you don't have to step down into the gutter with them
Rappin' for Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Kppx4bzfAaEXX
What's wrong with using modern means of communications? Anything amiss with the words of the rapper?

Descending into gutter? According to the Bible , Jesus did just that, no? He talked to Pharisees and tax collectors all the time - they were funnier and more interesting than living saints.

Anyhow, why do you call this good man and his audience who's rapping for God someone from the gutter? Methinks it's intolerance like yours that lies in the gutter.

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