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Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161801 Jun 30, 2013
Ex-CIA Official Paul Pillar Faults Use of Data on Iraq
Intelligence 'Misused' to Justify War, He Says
February 10, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/azl6w

The former CIA official who coordinated U.S. intelligence on the Middle East until last year has accused the Bush administration of "cherry-picking" intelligence on Iraq to justify a decision it had already reached to go to war, and of ignoring warnings that the country could easily fall into violence and chaos after an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

Paul R Pillar's critique is one of the most severe indictments of White House actions by a former Bush official since Richard C. Clarke, a former National Security Council staff member, went public with his criticism of the administration's handling of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and its failure to deal with the terrorist threat beforehand.

It is also the first time that such a senior intelligence officer has so directly and publicly condemned the administration's handling of intelligence.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

1948 Smith-Mundt Act The 1948 Smith-Mundt Act prohibited the domestic dissemination of United States government propaganda. The reasoning behind Smith-Mundt was that Congress wanted to be certain that a United States government agency could not brainwash our own citizens as Hitler had done in Germany.

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A Spy Speaks Out
Former Top CIA Official Tyler Drumheller On "Faulty" Intelligence Claims /
http://tinyurl.com/rle4x / April 23, 2006

"The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy."

Tyler Drumheller CIA Ret.

(CBS) When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush insisted that all those WMD claims before the war were the result of faulty intelligence. But a former top CIA official, Tyler Drumheller — a 26-year veteran of the agency — has decided to do something CIA officials at his level almost never do: Speak out.

He tells correspondent Ed Bradley the real failure was not in the intelligence community but in the White House. He says he saw how the Bush administration, time and again, welcomed intelligence that fit the president's determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to intelligence that did not.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60m...
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161802 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the rich create jobs. 90% of all millionaires as self made. Just look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. How about Shad who spent his first night in America ina $2 a night YMCA room.
Shahid "Shad" Khan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan
Yep, Shad comes to America with pocket change and now he is a multi-millionaire!
1 United States 425 34.0 13.2 American billionaires
2 Russia 96 8.3 7.1 Russian billionaires
3 China 95 7.6 0.9 Chinese billionaires
4 Germany 58 4.3 6.4 German billionaires
5 India 55 4.5 0.5 Indian billionaires
6 Turkey 43 3.1 5.7 Turkish billionaires
7 Hong Kong 38 3.0 51.0 Hong Kong billionaires
8 United Kingdom 37 2.7 5.3 British billionaires
9 Brazil 36 2.5 1.6 Brazilian billionaires
10 Canada 25 2.1 1.08 Canada billionaires
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161803 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the rich create jobs. 90% of all millionaires as self made. Just look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. How about Shad who spent his first night in America ina $2 a night YMCA room.
Shahid "Shad" Khan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan
Yep, Shad comes to America with pocket change and now he is a multi-millionaire!
WALL STREET IS AGAINST AMERICAN JOBS.

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They're All Against Jobs
by Sen. Fritz Hollings / December 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/ydr27ze
Who is against jobs in the United States? The big banks, Wall Street, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Business Roundtable, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Retail Federation, Corporate America, the President of the United States, Congress of the United States. Everyone is crying for jobs, but no one seems to understand why there aren't any. And the reason for those opposing jobs is money.
Beginning in 1973, big banks made most of their profit outside of the United States. Industries off-shoring, investing, banks financing the investments, transfer fees, fees and interest on the loans made for bigger profits. Long since, the big banks under the leadership of David Rockefeller have led the way to off-shore and make a bigger profit. Goldman Sachs, AIG, Citicorp and Wall Street, conspiring for a bailout and now using it for bonuses, make more money from the off-shored operations.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/20-6

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#161804 Jun 30, 2013
Colin Powell was the salesman who most successfully peddled the war in Iraq to the people of America.
We've been through this before. Colin Powell delivered the pitch for war.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#161805 Jun 30, 2013
More enemies! Good job Obumbler!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/30/eu...
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161806 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, Zimmerman was talking to 911 for minutes before Martin jumped him. And what was Martin do? Why he was talking to some ghetto trash about creepy crackers!!!!
He should never have been indicted much less tried but thanks to our race-baiter in the White House we have to jump through hoops to prove Zimmerman was innocent all alone.
GZ was on the phone with 9/11 and said he was following TM.

911 told him you don't need to follow him.

Seconds later GZ said now TM is running away.

This proves GZ guilty RIGHT FROM HIS OWN MOUTH.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161807 Jun 30, 2013
JBH wrote:
SOMETIMES THERE IS NO SAVE--Once you fall badly, you may not be saved, even Jesus or God could not save you.
Clinton and Bush are unsavable when they made US fall to flourish China.
CLINTON WAS TOO CASUAL, demonstrated by the Lewinsky story. Hence, as so loose and casual he was, he sold critical technology to China. Bush did worse by going to China a lot of times. In the first place, he took too much drug previously that this brain was already corrosive. You may still be saved if you take the American LSD occasionally. All you have to do is to eat lots of salads and drink distilled water afterwards. But by going to China for 6 times, Bush could have eaten the Chinese LSD in the Chinese food there. Besides, the Chinese played the witchcraft to sedate Bush. China was way below 8 position in world economy during Clinton's era. But now, it is being enhanced to word's second all of a sudden by Bush giving and selling stringent technology to them. He would have sold and given the whole USA to them if he got the third term (of presidency). Hence, Bush could be unsavable. No salads and distilled water can remove erosive contamination in the brain and thoughts from Chinese LSD.
US might be unsavable to this point done very badly to build the present China to support Russia to face with. It could not be saved even Bush keeps using and calling the name of God.
Sorry, I have no idea whom God will forgive or not and I seriously doubt that you know either. I just hope he will forgive me.
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161808 Jun 30, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Colin Powell was the salesman who most successfully peddled the war in Iraq to the people of America.
We've been through this before. Colin Powell delivered the pitch for war.
Colin Powell Saying He Was Misled Before UN Speech on WMDs
http://tinyurl.com/6n9tg2
&fe ature=related

Powell Says US Should Not Have Invaded Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/6zdvju
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#161809 Jun 30, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Stand-your-ground is permanently off the table. Once waived, it's gone.
<quoted text>
SELF Defense is NOT!
It's as old as TIME itself!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161810 Jun 30, 2013
Sorry, I take offence at this. I know we should preach to the sinners but you don't have to step down into the gutter with them

Rappin' for Jesus
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161811 Jun 30, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
More enemies! Good job Obumbler!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/30/eu...
Clinton PDD 63
http://tinyurl.com/cvuom

For Immediate Release May 22, 1998 FACT SHEET PROTECTING AMERICA'S
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES: PDD 63
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd-63.htm

Clinton PDD 62
http://tinyurl.com/bze57

COMBATING TERRORISM: PRESIDENTIAL DECISION DIRECTIVE 62
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ciao/62fa...

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COMPREHENSIVE ANTITERRORISM ACT OF 1995
http://tinyurl.com/ys56o4

Congressional Record: April 18, 1996 (House)- Pages H3605-H3618 Government Printing Office's Online Records: DOCID:cr18ap96-43

Conference Report on s. 735, Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996
Dan Burton (R-Ind): If the Government of the United States can through, quote-unquote, good faith tap our phones and intrude into our lives, they violate our constitutional liberties, and that is something that we should not tolerate, and that is in section 305 and section 307. The FBI can gain access to individual phone billing records without a subpoena or a court order. Once again I believe that infringes upon our constitutional rights and liberties, and while we are trying to deal with terrorism, and we should, we should not violate our constitutional rights and liberties, and I believe this bill in its present form does. And that is why I think the Barr amendment is absolutely essential if we are going to pass something that will really deal with terrorism crime, but protect the liberties that we fought so hard for in the Revolutionary War.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

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TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT--CONFERENCE REPORT
http://tinyurl.com/2lj3t8

Congressional Record: April 17, 1996 (Senate)- Pages S3454-S3478 DOCID:cr17ap96-153

Terrorism prevention Act--Conference Report

Orrin Hatch: Mr. President, again, in the real world, in the case of the Unabomber or a terrorist where there is a real threat or an immediate concern, you do not need this provision to get an emergency wiretap. All the Senator's motion does is expand the number of crimes that would trigger the wiretap statute. This amendment was offered during the Senate debate. It was defeated. It was not a part of the Senate bill. It was not a part of the House bill. It is not a part of our conference report, and rightly so. I oppose this provision that could expand emergency wiretap authority to permit the Government to begin a wiretap prior to obtaining court approval in a greater range of cases than the law presently allows. I personally find this proposal troubling. I am concerned that this provision, if enacted, would unnecessarily broaden emergency wiretap authority. Under current law, such authority exists when life is in danger, when the national security is threatened, or when an organized crime conspiracy is involved. In the real world, we do not need this amendment to get emergency wiretap authority, and that is a fact.
Let me also say that this authority is constrained by a requirement that surveillance be approved by the Court within 48 hours, but that authority already exists in those areas I have addressed.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161813 Jun 30, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
<quoted text>
Colin Powell Saying He Was Misled Before UN Speech on WMDs
http://tinyurl.com/6n9tg2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =2ZTLmOoPzjsXX&feature=rel ated
Powell Says US Should Not Have Invaded Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/6zdvju
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Oh course he says that. He is a loony-lefty. I worked with him in Germany when he was the V Corp commander and again at Fort McPherson, Atlanta, GA when he was the CinC of FORSCOM.
In fact I met Alma before I met him. At Fort Mc he was driving a ten year old light blue Buick station-wagon to work. I know he and Alma had some kids but how many I have no idea.
At Fort Mc they lived in the FDR house.

From Wiki: Quarters 10 is the centerpiece of Staff Row. Completed in 1892, the three-story home has 12-foot (3.7 m)-high ceilings on the first floor, 11-foot (3.4 m)-high ceilings on the second, and semicircular front windows in the turret. In 1925, Gen. Douglas MacArthur was assigned to Fort McPherson as post commander. Since his wife refused to live in the quarters, they rented an apartment downtown near the Fox Theatre. The MacArthurs left after having spent 89 days at Fort McPherson, when he was reassigned to Baltimore. A sleeping porch was added to the back of the quarters in 1935 for President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s visits while he was en route to Warm Springs, Georgia.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161814 Jun 30, 2013
Oh, here is a picture of the house Gen. Colon Powell lived in at Fort McPherson, GA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quarters10....
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161815 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh course he says that. He is a loony-lefty. I worked with him in Germany when he was the V Corp commander and again at Fort McPherson, Atlanta, GA when he was the CinC of FORSCOM.
In fact I met Alma before I met him. At Fort Mc he was driving a ten year old light blue Buick station-wagon to work. I know he and Alma had some kids but how many I have no idea.
At Fort Mc they lived in the FDR house.
From Wiki: Quarters 10 is the centerpiece of Staff Row. Completed in 1892, the three-story home has 12-foot (3.7 m)-high ceilings on the first floor, 11-foot (3.4 m)-high ceilings on the second, and semicircular front windows in the turret. In 1925, Gen. Douglas MacArthur was assigned to Fort McPherson as post commander. Since his wife refused to live in the quarters, they rented an apartment downtown near the Fox Theatre. The MacArthurs left after having spent 89 days at Fort McPherson, when he was reassigned to Baltimore. A sleeping porch was added to the back of the quarters in 1935 for President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s visits while he was en route to Warm Springs, Georgia.
MI6 chief told PM Tony Blair: Americans ‘fixed’ case for war
March 20, 2005 / http://tinyurl.com/n3x7y3b
THE HEAD of MI6 told Tony Blair that the case for war against Iraq was being “fixed” by the Americans to suit the policy, according to a BBC documentary that will reignite its battle with the government.
Blair followed the US lead by failing to reveal publicly doubts about the quality of intelligence that he had requested to support the case for war, the programme claims.
Sir Richard Dearlove, head of MI6, briefed Blair and a select group of ministers on America’s determination to press ahead with the war nine months before hostilities began.
After attending a briefing in Washington, he told the meeting that war was “inevitable”. Dearlove said “the facts and intelligence” were being “fixed round the policy” by George W Bush’s administration /
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_n...
wojar

Bristol, CT

#161816 Jun 30, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
SELF Defense is NOT!
It's as old as TIME itself!
SYG was the topic, Dumbo.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Stand-your-ground is permanently off the table. Once waived, it's gone.
<quoted text>
American Lady

Danville, KY

#161817 Jun 30, 2013
Trayvon Martin
Trayvon Benjamin Martin

Trayvon Martin in an undated photo
Born February 5, 1995
Florida, U.S.
Died February 26, 2012 (aged 17)
Sanford, Florida, U.S.
Cause of death Single gunshot fired at intermediate range
Ethnicity African American
Height
5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
[Note 2]
Weight 158 pounds (72 kg)[Note 2]
Trayvon Benjamin Martin (February 5, 1995 – February 26, 2012) was the son of Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, who were divorced in 1999. He was a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop High School and lived with his mother and older brother in Miami Gardens, Florida.[37][38][39]
On the day Martin was fatally shot, he and his father were visiting his father's fiancée and her son at her townhome in The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, a multi-ethnic gated community, where the shooting occurred.[40][41] Martin had visited his father's fiancée at Twin Lakes several times.[42][43]
Martin had been suspended from school at the time of his death, his third disciplinary suspension of the year.[44] One suspension was for tardiness. Another suspension was for graffiti, when Martin was observed by a security camera in a restricted area of the school marking up a door with "W.T.F." When he was later searched by a Miami-Dade School Police Department officer, looking for the graffiti marker, the officer found several pieces of women's jewelry in his backpack, which Martin said were not his, stating a friend had given them to him. A screwdriver was also found, which was described by the school police investigator as a burglary tool. The jewelry was impounded and given to the police, but no evidence ever surfaced to indicate that the jewelry was stolen. Martin's third suspension involved a marijuana pipe, and an empty bag containing marijuana residue. Martin was not charged with any crime related to these incidents and did not have a juvenile record.[44][45][46][47][48]

Zimmerman's height is shown as 5&#8242;7&#8243;
and his weight as 185 lb

on his Seminole County Sheriff's Office Inmate Booking Information dated April 11, 2012, the date of his arrest.[53]

Zimmerman's height is shown as 5&#8242;8&#8243;
and his weight at 200 lb
****
[Trayvon Martin
Height
5 ft 11 in
Weight 158 pounds]
****

on the Sanford Police Department Offense Report for February 26, 2012, the night of the shooting.[61]

In 2009, Zimmerman had moved with his wife to The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, Florida, a multi-ethnic[62] gated community, where the shooting occurred.[40][41]

At the time of the shooting, he was employed as an insurance underwriter and was in his final semester at Seminole State College for an associate degree in Criminal Justice.[63] In late 2011, he was refused an associate's degree. He had failed at least one class and had not accumulated enough credits to graduate.[64] In one of his interviews with police he stated his goal was to become a judge.[65]

In 2005, Zimmerman was charged with assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest, after shoving an officer while a friend of Zimmerman's was being questioned about underage drinking.

The charges were reduced, then dropped <<--<<<

when Zimmerman entered a pre-trial diversion program.

Also in 2005, Zimmerman's ex-fiance filed a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman requested a reciprocal restraining order. Both orders were granted.[66][67] The incidents were raised by prosecutors at Zimmerman's initial bond hearing.

The judge described the incidents as "run of the mill" and "somewhat mild" and rejected the prosecution's claim that the incidents showed that Zimmerman was violent or a threat to the community.[2][68][69]

MORE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tray...
Sunlight Foundation com

Sayville, NY

#161818 Jun 30, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, here is a picture of the house Gen. Colon Powell lived in at Fort McPherson, GA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quarters10....
Paul Pillar served for 30 years as an analyst at the CIA, finishing his career as the national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia.
Question: At least the way the story is told by [journalist] Bob Woodward, is that even then the president is asking Rumsfeld to begin war plans.[Counterterrorism expert] Richard Clarke reports that [there is] lots of conversation about "Let's get ready." That's the fall [of 2001]. You're the Middle East guy for the Central Intelligence Agency, and you're not receiving any formal requests, any requests for information, any intelligence requests?...
Pillar
I did not receive any requests from a policy-maker on Iraq until about a year into the war. Now, this is to be distinguished from our military, which was doing a lot of the planning work and making many, many requests, usually at other levels, but some of my colleagues in the National Intelligence Council were involved in supporting the military planning. But no, I did not.
Q
A year into the war meaning when?

Pillar
Meaning close to mid-2004.... Remember, things like the infamous National Intelligence Estimate [NIE] on weapons of mass destruction, which was published in the fall of 2002, that was not requested by the administration; that was requested by Congress.

Q
Wait a minute. The Bush administration, the vice president, president, did not ever ask the Central Intelligence Agency for an intelligence assessment?

Pillar
I want to be precise. From my seat on the National Intelligence Council,... not just the CIA but the entire intelligence community,... no, I did not receive any request on Iraq.... There were other requests being made, from DIA to CIA, particularly by the military as they faced their very awesome job of planning.

Q
But not the vice president?

Pillar
No, sir.

Q
Not the president? Not the national security adviser?

Pillar

The course had already been set.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darks...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161819 Jun 30, 2013
This is the old division commander's house at Fort Sill, OK. On either side are two brigade commander's houses and my parents lived on the first one of the left between late 1971 until 1976.

http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx...

The garage was a carriage house and a VW Beetle would barely fit in. The house had only one modern bathroom and on the second floor had five bedrooms and a screened veranda on both the main and second floor and people would sleep out on the second floor veranda as it was almost impossible to air condition.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#161820 Jun 30, 2013
JBH wrote:
SOMETIMES THERE IS NO SAVE--Once you fall badly, you may not be saved, even Jesus or God could not save you.
Clinton and Bush are unsavable when they made US fall to flourish China.
CLINTON WAS TOO CASUAL, demonstrated by the Lewinsky story. Hence, as so loose and casual he was, he sold critical technology to China. Bush did worse by going to China a lot of times. In the first place, he took too much drug previously that this brain was already corrosive. You may still be saved if you take the American LSD occasionally. All you have to do is to eat lots of salads and drink distilled water afterwards. But by going to China for 6 times, Bush could have eaten the Chinese LSD in the Chinese food there. Besides, the Chinese played the witchcraft to sedate Bush. China was way below 8 position in world economy during Clinton's era. But now, it is being enhanced to word's second all of a sudden by Bush giving and selling stringent technology to them. He would have sold and given the whole USA to them if he got the third term (of presidency). Hence, Bush could be unsavable. No salads and distilled water can remove erosive contamination in the brain and thoughts from Chinese LSD.
US might be unsavable to this point done very badly to build the present China to support Russia to face with. It could not be saved even Bush keeps using and calling the name of God.
Nonsense child. It matters not where you may have fallen from, to repent is all that is needed. You do know that Saddam used to feed kids to dogs, don't you? Nah, that sick SOB shouldn't have been taken out! What is the matter with you?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#161821 Jun 30, 2013
More PLAINLY SEEN!

Zimmerman on his Seminole County Sheriff's Office Inmate Booking Information dated April 11, 2012, the date of his arrest.[53]

Zimmerman's height is shown as
5 Feet 8 inches
his weight at 200 pounds [lbs]

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[Trayvon Martin
Height 5' 11 inches
Weight 158 pounds [lbs]
****

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