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wojar

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Jun 24, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, Egypt good, Israel bad. International law that refugees mus stop at the first country to pass through but it seldom works out that way. And example are the Haitians through the Bahamas to get to the U.S. But international law, they must stop in the Bahamas.
But the Africans do not want to stop in the first African country they pass through and it is the evil Israel who will not let them in!
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Israeli: Detention center for Africans a 'prison'
By DIAA HADID | Associated Press –
JERUSALEM (AP)— Hundreds of African migrants are languishing in a desert detention center in southern Israel, where families may only meet once a week and where women and children sleep in a prison-like compound, according to lawmakers who caught a rare glimpse.
The visit to Sahronim center by a parliamentary delegation has allowed a look into the facility that plays a key role in Israel's attempt to stem the tide of thousands of African migrants who have crossed the long desert border with Egypt to the Jewish state in recent years.
"It's not a camp. It's a prison," said Michael Rozin, an opposition lawmaker with the dovish Meretz party. "You have guards. You are not free do what you want. These people are not criminals. Their crime is asking for a better life."
http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-detention-cente...
Rouge needs to learn definition of first country of asylum. It's not necessarily the first foreign country a refugee sets foot on.
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Jun 24, 2013
 
Who Killed Clinton's Dog?
What did Buddy know, and when did he know it?
By Mickey Kaus|Posted Wednesday, Jan. 9, 2002

[ Note: Kausfiles received the following from a gravelly-voiced outdoorsman in Arkansas who refused to give his name.]
"It was strictly an accident. The dog just darted out." That is what the media wants us to believe about the death of Buddy, Bill Clinton's 4-year-old Labrador retriever.(See "Who Is Buddy?" Wall Street Journal, Dec. 1997.) But is the truth about this—the latest Clinton casualty—that conveniently simple?
What do we really know about Buddy's death? Who stood to benefit? Consider the following:
On Dec. 19, 2001 Clinton has a meeting in his Harlem office to discuss ways to repair his "battered" image. The meeting is described in the New York Times as having a "special urgency." An image-building speech on globalization at Yale has apparently not brought Clinton the expected public sympathy.
Democratic leaders, Clinton is reported to have said, had not spoken up sufficiently on his behalf. They could not be relied on.
Present at the meeting was Bruce Lindsey, Clinton's secretive consigliere and the man entrusted with the Clintons' most distasteful tasks.
Exactly two weeks later, Buddy was dead. As could have been predicted, Clinton benefited from a wave of public sympathy—sympathy he hadn't felt since at least Sept. 11. Clinton's office almost instantly issued a press statement saying the Clintons were "deeply saddened by Buddy's death."
It's almost as if it had been planned all along.

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Jun 24, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Rouge needs to learn definition of first country of asylum. It's not necessarily the first foreign country a refugee sets foot on.
But that is not what the United Nation says. And the UN says nothing about "economic" asylum. Only political asylum.
Just like the Geneva Accords only covers LAWFUL combatants and not illegal ones like the Taliban and al Qaeda who can be tortured and summarily executed!

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Jun 24, 2013
 
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You post quotes from a third party and you tell me to carry on a "decent debate"? Are you kidding. You maybe contributed max 5 words to the above post.
And, I don't care about covenant, Exodus and chronology. You have sex with your mom or dad or sister or half-sister, you are committing an incestuous act. And, the medical consequences are well known, physical and intellectual infirmities to name just two. Were the latter two not a consequence of incest BEFORE it was declared verboten? If God is God, could he have not found a better way than incest to populate the earth? How'd he make Adam and Eve? Why did He just not continue thus?

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/TC6SGHF806...
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Well, now we know what happened to you.
Seeing as I'm not a birther, it cannot have affected me. I did make the consequences of incest clear, didn't I?
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Jun 24, 2013
 
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But that is not what the United Nation says. And the UN says nothing about "economic" asylum. Only political asylum.
Just like the Geneva Accords only covers LAWFUL combatants and not illegal ones like the Taliban and al Qaeda who can be tortured and summarily executed!
Nonsense. UNHCR does not define first country of asylum as first foreign country a refugee sets foot on. If Rouge disagrees he is welcome to cite relevant article of the convention.
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Jun 24, 2013
 
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Oh, rest assured my dear, it's much more than speculation! BTW, you wrote, "what word requirement?", you're the one that first mentioned the word. Yep, blonde.
Rational readers will notice that although LRS has CLAIMED "it is much more than speculation," LRS has not cited a single fact.

"Yep, blonde."

Not that my hair color matters, but the willingness to call a brunette a blonde is typical of birther LIARS.

It is like them saying "the Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya" (she didn't, she said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII, and she is not a blonde either) or them saying "Obama's lawyer admitted that the birth certificate was forged" (she didn't, and I admit I do not know her hair color). The governor of Hawaii (who is bald, but his beard is gray) did not say that he could not find the birth certificate either.
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Quit making excuses for the usurper!
He is not a usurper, but, it is true as you said that his selective service card is forged. But Obama didn't forge it. Obama did not post it or show it nor did any representative of Obama.

A guy posted it, claiming to have gotten it from the Selective Service Administration (not from Obama or any representative of Obama). So, who forged it?

Who do you think???

The guy who posted it, of course.

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Jun 24, 2013
 
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I've never drank a jug of warm urine, I'll take your word for it.
So you've never "drank" (sic) a jug of urine? Why? Bathtub moonshine any better?

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Jun 24, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The Newest US Navy Warship - Can't Afford To Go To Sea~!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Looks made-up to me. And since when is a bumbling navy officer,(or is he and officer) allowed to criticize gov't polity? Is this guy still with the navy?

And incidentally, what is this catamaran supposed to do that the US can't do without right now?
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Jun 24, 2013
 
nebka wrote:
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It is the right that did all that stuff.
Where did that info come from you are using is very wrong.
You are absolutely correct.

I was just being sarcastic.

P.S. Reverse psychology does not work on birthers.

LOL

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Jun 24, 2013
 
Justice LRS wrote:
Hmm, I see you're still keeping up with the latest news. This one's dated Feb 2008, fully 6 months before Obama's first election. Since you're bringing these lies and fabrications back, how about bringing back "Can you hear us coming?".

What a loser. Unimaginable!

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Jun 24, 2013
 
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But that is not what the United Nation says. And the UN says nothing about "economic" asylum. Only political asylum.
Just like the Geneva Accords only covers LAWFUL combatants and not illegal ones like the Taliban and al Qaeda who can be tortured and summarily executed!
Sorry Rouge, you said according to INTERNATIONAL LAW. Do you recall that? Or are you having another amnesia attack?

According to the Refugee Convention "there are three situations in which a state may decline to protect a person because he or she can obtain protection elsewhere: where a person has more than one nationality, he will not satisfy the definition of refugee if “he has not availed himself of the protection of one of the countries of which he is a national”(Article 1A(2)); where a person has de facto nationality in another country the Convention “shall not apply”(Article 1E); and where a refugee acquires a new nationality and enjoys the protection of the country of new nationality the Convention “shall cease to apply”(Article 1C)." Michelle Foster, Responsibility Sharing or Shifting?“Safe” Third Countries and International Law. 25 Refuge 64 (2008). Citing James C. Hathaway, The Rights of Refuges under International Law (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2005).
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<quoted text>Rouge needs to learn definition of first country of asylum. It's not necessarily the first foreign country a refugee sets foot on.
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Jun 24, 2013
 
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You do know Rummy left over six years ago, don't you? And Robert Gates was not much better either! And I thought Pennetta did a rather good job!!!
Well, you thought wrong!

Better yes, but not good.

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Jun 24, 2013
 
Rouge’s statement:“International law that refugees mus stop at the first country to pass through but it seldom works out that way.”

Yup, he said INTERNATIONAL LAW.
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No need to be tossing around respect in here.:)
Not if you asked Romney. He is pretty sure it is in Missouri.
What evidence do we have that says the garden was in Babylon? Any field will do.
The first civilization in that region was Sumarian. Strange that being so little removed from all the showmanship God supposedly had back in the day...they new nothing of him.
People...are all from Africa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Tigris–Euphrates rivers are not in Missouri.

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Jun 24, 2013
 
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Hummm, another mysterious Clinton death. Rumor has it that Socks actually froze to death on Hillary's lap.
Socks The Cat Dies
KASEY JONES 02/20/09
BALTIMORE — Socks, the White House cat during the Clinton administration who waged war on Buddy the pup, has died. He was around 18.
Socks had lived with Bill Clinton's secretary, Betty Currie, in Hollywood, Md., since the Clintons left the White House in early 2001.
Currie confirmed Socks' death Friday evening and said she was "heartbroken." She did not give details, referring calls to the Clinton Foundation office.
The foundation released a statement from the Clintons:
"Socks brought much happiness to Chelsea and us over the years, and enjoyment to kids and cat lovers everywhere. We're grateful for those memories, and we especially want to thank our good friend, Betty Currie, for taking such loving care of Socks for so many years."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/20/sock...
Any more miscellaneous anti-Clinton crap? How do you find this garbage? Does one have to have an especially twisted mind? What's your key search engine for locating hateful blogs?

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Who Killed Clinton's Dog?
What did Buddy know, and when did he know it?
By Mickey Kaus|Posted Wednesday, Jan. 9, 2002
[ Note: Kausfiles received the following from a gravelly-voiced outdoorsman in Arkansas who refused to give his name.]
"It was strictly an accident. The dog just darted out." That is what the media wants us to believe about the death of Buddy, Bill Clinton's 4-year-old Labrador retriever.(See "Who Is Buddy?" Wall Street Journal, Dec. 1997.) But is the truth about this—the latest Clinton casualty—that conveniently simple?
What do we really know about Buddy's death? Who stood to benefit? Consider the following:
On Dec. 19, 2001 Clinton has a meeting in his Harlem office to discuss ways to repair his "battered" image. The meeting is described in the New York Times as having a "special urgency." An image-building speech on globalization at Yale has apparently not brought Clinton the expected public sympathy.
Democratic leaders, Clinton is reported to have said, had not spoken up sufficiently on his behalf. They could not be relied on.
Present at the meeting was Bruce Lindsey, Clinton's secretive consigliere and the man entrusted with the Clintons' most distasteful tasks.
Exactly two weeks later, Buddy was dead. As could have been predicted, Clinton benefited from a wave of public sympathy—sympathy he hadn't felt since at least Sept. 11. Clinton's office almost instantly issued a press statement saying the Clintons were "deeply saddened by Buddy's death."
It's almost as if it had been planned all along.
If ever, evidence was to be presented to showcase nutball birther conspiracies, this one is it. Thank you, Rogue, for showcasing it, makes it so much easier when you do it to yourself.

BTW, if Bill Clinton ran in 2016, however much older, he'd still slaughter any republican candidate in a heartbeat. Image-building you say? Oh yeah, he'd easily win because he shot his dog. And birthers think that 0-209 is a winning score. Losers.

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<quoted text>Nonsense. UNHCR does not define first country of asylum as first foreign country a refugee sets foot on. If Rouge disagrees he is welcome to cite relevant article of the convention.
Bets are on you won't hear further on this one.
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No need to be tossing around respect in here...you might break something...:)
The first known civilization was middle eastern. The Sumarians. Strange that being so little removed from the days of celestial showmanship...they knew nothing of the judeo-christian god.
People...are from Africa. All of them if you go back far enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Richard Dawkins is an imbecile.

He thinks the Orangutan was not in Africa.

He doesn't realize that millions and millions of years ago all the continents were grouped together.

It is just speculation on Dawkins part.

Gods word makes just as much sense, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

P.S. I am ready for the return fire for calling your hero an imbecile. LOL

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But that is not what the United Nation says. And the UN says nothing about "economic" asylum. Only political asylum.
Just like the Geneva Accords only covers LAWFUL combatants and not illegal ones like the Taliban and al Qaeda who can be tortured and summarily executed!

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense. UNHCR does not define first country of asylum as first foreign country a refugee sets foot on. If Rouge disagrees he is welcome to cite relevant article of the convention.
Nonsense, and you can not prove me wrong either?
And you can not prove that the Geneva Accords protect ILLEGAL combatants either! All the Geneva Accords is establish who is, and who is not, a legal combatant and how you will treat legal combatants!

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