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Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#161095 Jun 25, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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It damn well better be noble!
I am certainly not in it for the money.
Well, as I said I am not a biologist. Dawkins is the most respected in the field. Wojar may be a better person to ask.
Francis Collins was a leader for the human genome project.
Also a SERIOUS Christian.
He says 100,000 minimum.
Bottom line its all speculation.
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#161096 Jun 25, 2013
bbl

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#161097 Jun 25, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
More whining and mumbling from the drooling toesap. Wow. Imagine that. BTW, you still haven't shown me where I said it was requirement. LMAO! Now, take your loss like a man and quit crying, spanky.
Maybe this could help.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/...

But if he couldn't get in in middle school, it's probably hopeless.
wojar wrote:
It's good to have the record when dealing with Mr. Liars. It is Mr. Liars who has been tangled in his own statements.
What kind of nutjob cannot understand the difference between paraphrase and direct quote?
Answer, the kind of nutjob who tries to prove Noah's flood with 'geologic evidence' using a link to a creationist young Earth pseudoscience site.
Answer, the kind of nutjob who insists that the only certified BC that would prove birth facts is one certified at the time of birth registration and given to the mother.
BTW, "the entire thread" is a reference to the entire thread of the relevant conversation, not the entire contents of this forum. However, I do have an open source web crawler that uses a SQL database, so I could, with relative ease, keep a record of everything said here in this forum. It's called IT.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161098 Jun 25, 2013
Okay folks, keep moving. nothing here. ignore the man behind the curtain! Ah, how about that Ed Snowden guy? Keep moving! nothing here. Ah, how about the Global Warming crisis? We need to save the Earth!!!

Do new IRS revelations prove there is no Tea Party scandal?
By Peter Weber | The Week –

The new head of the tax agency says the IRS targeted lefty groups seeking tax-exempt status, too
The Internal Revenue Service probably won't ever be popular, but its reputation has taken a big hit since revelations in May that several dozen conservative-sounding applicants for tax-exempt status were singled out for special scrutiny. Officials at the IRS's Cincinnati office used "Be On the Look Out" (BOLO) lists with an evolving (and devolving) list of terms, including "Tea Party," "patriot," or "9/12."
The subsequent shake-up at the IRS brought in a new commissioner, Danny Werfel, who said on Monday that the use of BOLO lists continued until at least April, that he'd formally put a stop to the spreadsheets last week — and that the breadth of the search terms was much wider than reported in a damaging inspector general's report.
http://news.yahoo.com/irs-revelations-prove-n...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161099 Jun 25, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...25 words?
Have you read me before?
Dark Energy- is a force that seems to work opposite of gravity. It is responsible for the exponential speed of expansion in the Universe. It also has the potential to fold the Universe back on itself and crush everything back into a singularity. Or...it may catapult the Universe into heat death. There is more unknown about dark energy than any other thing in the Universe.
It is thus far undetectable by our technology.
It seems to be a property of empty space. All we really know is that it is there.
Dark Matter is actual matter that we can not measure. It is ethereal.(how cool is that?)
But it has undeniable mass. It was discovered by a scientist making a computer model showing how galaxies form. No matter how many times he tried the galaxy would fly apart.
To fix this he increased the gravity about 5 times of available mass.(what we can see...stars, planets...etc)
A perfect spiral galaxy was the result.
So...what provides the extra mass?
Dark Matter.
We CAN detect dark matter through a process called Gravitational lensing.
Basically we shoot a beam of light through empty space and the gravity of the dark matter will bend the light.
What we can see when we look into the sky is about 4% of the matter there is. Meaning..all stars..planets...comets..nebul a..etc. make up only 4% of the Universe.
Dark matter is about 28% of the mass of the Universe.
The rest is dark energy.
Hope this helped...tried to keep it as basic as possible.
Also many thanks from your humble servant. I don't mind being educated at all. But, why do I think wojar already knew all that?

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#161100 Jun 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I might have had a classified mission to Merry Old England and might have been on a airbase that had FB-111s and it might have been a nuje site too.
Well, nuke sites are very secure and if someone thinks they need to shoot someone, they shoot them.
Well, they had this British civilian secretary on the base that somehow got onto the aircraft ramp and broke two Chinook helicopters!!!
She broke off two plastic pieces that were on the bellies of the aircraft and they looked like a double ended horn and she was blowing on one while kicking the other one as she walked off the ramp. The Air Force was really concerned how badly our aircraft were damaged. They were "relief-tube venturies"!!!
You see, if a pilot has to, ah, relieve himself in flight he pisses into a funnel located under the pilot's seat when a tube takes it by a tube to this ventury-thing were the urine is vaporized into a mist. And the venturi looks like a cute little two-ended horn.
Of course the British secretary had no idea what she was blowing on!!! But I am sure she lost her job and would never be allowed on the base again!
I have a buddy he was at Lakenheath in the early 80's and one of his jobs was to transmit the go code to launch the F1-11's to the eastern block countries.

Of course the U.S stored nuclear weapons there.

We all remember when Iran hostage crisis and the story that we paid the govermnent to free then. Well right before they were free a top secert cargo plane stoped at Lakenheath the only thing known about the shipment was it's weight

So my friend said they his friend look that days paper for that days gold price and he did a little math and the weight for that cargo was right on if it was gold.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#161101 Jun 25, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, technically, if you believe in Jesus, all is ONE BODY together.
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Luke 9:49-50
49 “Master,” said John,“we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”
50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said,“for whoever is not against you is for you.”
Even if Jesus is really an alien from the planet Kolob?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161102 Jun 25, 2013
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a buddy he was at Lakenheath in the early 80's and one of his jobs was to transmit the go code to launch the F1-11's to the eastern block countries.
Of course the U.S stored nuclear weapons there.
We all remember when Iran hostage crisis and the story that we paid the govermnent to free then. Well right before they were free a top secert cargo plane stoped at Lakenheath the only thing known about the shipment was it's weight
So my friend said they his friend look that days paper for that days gold price and he did a little math and the weight for that cargo was right on if it was gold.
Do you know what happened the day after Jan. 19, 1980? But the Libtards claimed that Bush-41 flew to Paris in an SR-71 in Oct. 1980 to make a deal with Iran?!?

Algiers Accords
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Algiers Accords of January 19, 1981, was brokered by the Algerian government between the United States and Iran to resolve the Iran hostage crisis.[1] The crisis arose from the takeover of the American embassy in Tehran on November 4, 1979, and the taking hostage of the American staff there. By this accord the 52 American citizens were set free and able to leave Iran.

Among its chief provisions are:[2]

The US would not intervene politically or militarily in Iranian internal affairs
The US would remove a freeze on Iranian assets and trade sanctions on Iran
Both countries would end litigation between their respective governments and citizens referring them to international arbitration, namely the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal.
The US would ensure that US court decisions regarding the transfer of any property of the former Shah would be independent from "sovereign immunity principles" and would be enforced
Iranian debts to US institutions would be paid
The US chief negotiator was Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher,

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#161103 Jun 25, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Bottom line its all speculation.
I can't stress this enough...really it isn't.

Science requires evidence.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.ht...

The whole "this guess is as good as any" is not acceptable.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161104 Jun 25, 2013
I wonder if nebka knows the differences between a F-111 and a FB-111?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161105 Jun 25, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Ad hominem rants are quite lame. Now get along and study your middle school English text. You can start by looking for the section about quotation marks.
<quoted text>
Middle school? You're too generous, wojar. Why?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#161106 Jun 25, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. Interesting. Incidentally, Canada took delivery of its first of 15 new Chinooks yesterday from Boeing. Incredibly, and oh how we love to be screwed, each example costs over $300 million, as much as a fully-equipped B-747. Nuts. How the lobbyists and Boeing officials must be laughing all the way to their offshore banks.
As usual, you tell only part of the story;
Also, unlike you, I leave a link!

Boeing was awarded a $1.2-billion contract for the aircraft to be built at the company’s plant in Pennsylvania. Another $2.2 billion will be spent for in-service support for the helicopters over the next 20 years. Additional funds are being spent on infrastructure and other long-term program costs, bringing the total price tag to about $5 billion.

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Petawawa+fi...
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#161107 Jun 25, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...25 words?
Have you read me before?
Dark Energy- is a force that seems to work opposite of gravity. It is responsible for the exponential speed of expansion in the Universe. It also has the potential to fold the Universe back on itself and crush everything back into a singularity. Or...it may catapult the Universe into heat death. There is more unknown about dark energy than any other thing in the Universe.
It is thus far undetectable by our technology.
It seems to be a property of empty space. All we really know is that it is there.
Dark Matter is actual matter that we can not measure. It is ethereal.(how cool is that?)
But it has undeniable mass. It was discovered by a scientist making a computer model showing how galaxies form. No matter how many times he tried the galaxy would fly apart.
To fix this he increased the gravity about 5 times of available mass.(what we can see...stars, planets...etc)
A perfect spiral galaxy was the result.
So...what provides the extra mass?
Dark Matter.
We CAN detect dark matter through a process called Gravitational lensing.
Basically we shoot a beam of light through empty space and the gravity of the dark matter will bend the light.
What we can see when we look into the sky is about 4% of the matter there is. Meaning..all stars..planets...comets..nebul a..etc. make up only 4% of the Universe.
Dark matter is about 28% of the mass of the Universe.
The rest is dark energy.
Hope this helped...tried to keep it as basic as possible.
++========

Was it Princeton or MIT which told you about DARK MATTER AND DARK ENERGY?

EINSTEIN WAS IN PRINCETON, WAS HE NOT, YET did he illustrate much ON DARK MATTER and dark energy?
He did support India's Ghandi , as he talked about global political matters much as well during his time.
Then tell what are dark age and dark force that PRINCETON OR MIT HAD TOLD YOU?
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#161108 Jun 25, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't stress this enough...really it isn't.
Science requires evidence.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.ht...
The whole "this guess is as good as any" is not acceptable.
I believe in science, always did.

Right now it is accepted theory.

Maybe a thousand years from now it could all change and the science was off the mark.

Or maybe Jesus will come back today and cause it all to be moot.

???
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#161109 Jun 25, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if Jesus is really an alien from the planet Kolob?
It is forbidden to add or subtract like the Mormons do.

Even the Jehovah Witness change words from the original text.

Jehovah's have the word was a god.

-------

John 1
The Word Became Flesh

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Deuteronomy 4:2

Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

==========

Revelation 22

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161110 Jun 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual, you tell only part of the story;
Also, unlike you, I leave a link!
Boeing was awarded a $1.2-billion contract for the aircraft to be built at the company’s plant in Pennsylvania. Another $2.2 billion will be spent for in-service support for the helicopters over the next 20 years. Additional funds are being spent on infrastructure and other long-term program costs, bringing the total price tag to about $5 billion.
Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Petawawa+fi...
I rarely give a source, as 99% of what I write here, I just know. However, when asked for a source to buttress what I wrote, I instantly do so, unlike you. My source is the one you just gave, as I read it yesterday in The Citizen and today in "LeDroit", our French-language daily.

When purchasing military equipment, the cost of, in this case, helicopters, is ALWAYS predicated and established on initial purchase plus maintenance/operations for the life of the aircraft. That's the way it is done, Rogue, you ought to know that. I had written $300 million each. I was wrong. It's more like $3.35 million.

Now, you may think YOUR military is stupid. It is. But we beat 'em. We had a fleet of 10 Chinooks prior to 2002 when we joined the US in Afghanistan. We had disposed of our fleet of Chinooks a couple years prior to 2001 by selling them at bargain prices to the Netherlands. Then came our participation in Afghanistan and a huge need for heavy helicopters. What to do? We leased Chinooks from, you guessed it, the Dutch . The cost? Many times over what we sold them for and the best part is, we don't get to keep them, we have to return them to the Netherlands, ergo our purchase of 15 news ones.

Our, your military, share one common thread with its international friends and foes, and it makes no difference what country, and that is, stupidity. Uniforms seem to weigh on their brains. And Rogue will say this proves I hate the military. No way. I'm talking top brass here, no one else. They start "losing it" around "Colonel time", when it goes to their heads and clouds their judgement. Exceptions, yes, but mostly in the past.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#161111 Jun 25, 2013
Corr, darn : "More like $335 million"
American Lady

Danville, KY

#161112 Jun 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And do you know who Bob Bauer's wife is? Anita Dunn!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Dunn
RS, I put a reply to this several times and it was deleted.
It was about Michelle Malkin and her keeping track of those two!
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#161113 Jun 25, 2013
The NSA's Metastasized Intelligence-Industrial Complex Is Ripe for Abuse
Where oversight and accountability have failed, Snowden's leaks have opened up a vital public debate on our rights and privacy
by Valerie Plame Wilson and Joe Wilson / June 24, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/ptf5lfz
Let's be absolutely clear about the news that the NSA collects massive amounts of information on US citizens – from emails, to telephone calls, to videos, under the Prism program and other Fisa court orders: this story has nothing to do with Edward Snowden. As interesting as his flight to Hong Kong might be, the pole-dancing girlfriend, and interviews from undisclosed locations, his fate is just a sideshow to the essential issues of national security versus constitutional guarantees of privacy, which his disclosures have surfaced in sharp relief.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/06/24-1
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#161114 Jun 25, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
RS, I put a reply to this several times and it was deleted.
It was about Michelle Malkin and her keeping track of those two!
It is possible that you keep deleting your cookies so your post deletes also.

I constantly delete my cookies.

Just a suggestion.

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