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____ It's the "LEFT" who have suppressed the official consensus analysis reports that TOTAL VICTORY in Iraq is IMPOSSIBLE, like the PENTAGON PAPERS.
____ It's the "LEFT" who are intent on including tactical nuclear weapons in the Iran DE-NUCLEARIZATION 400+ MISSILE plan to bomb them back to the STONE AGE as first strike regardless of the probable escalation in to GLOBAL NUCLEAR World War between Muslim and Christian nations.
____ It's the "LEFT" who claim to be intent on reforming the UN but are actually devaluating and destroying it in favor of IMF, World Bank Private Equity Corporate control.
____ It's the "LEFT" who authorized SHOT TO KILL orders to paramilitary contractors and regular military in and around NOLA after Katrina in breach of POSSE COMITATUS.
____ It's the "LEFT" who made the administration present the assertion of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, that the INSURGENCY IS IN ITS LAST THROWS and that SADDAM was involved in 9/11.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have closed veterans medical facilities and believe that PTSD is minor problem that THERAPY does nothing for.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have declared a war on drugs and gangs that has spawned a self fulfilling prison industrial complex and created more extremist groups with more members by fostering fundamentalists evangelical end of days fanaticism.
____ Clinton was definitely a LEFTY when he sign off on NAFTA that eliminated the livelihood of millions on both sides of the border via WTO multinational corporate subsidies resulting in the COYOTE trade illegal alien train of death whose alternative is starvation.
____ It's the "LEFT" who inserted the promise to increase energy independence federal financing in to the state of the union address while actually cutting that budget line item, lifted EPA protections regarding national pipeline operation and OSHA coal mine safety regulations.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have left the cost of IRAQ WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION cost off the national debt/deficit balance sheet and raided SSI funds off balance sheet accounting.
____ It's the "LEFT" who were responsible for the voter purge list in Florida and the 2004 false terror alert the Ohio election.
____ All the GENERALS opposed to the IRAQ INVASION and perpetual OCCUPATION are "LEFTIES".
____ It's the "LEFT" who came up with the thesis that a CATALYZING EVENT like PEARL HARBOR would be necessary to continue the expansion of the EMPIRE, if the US is not growing it is in jeopardy of being marginalized to oblivion .
stupid left....

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Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Good morning all.
Been away a few days. Not going to bother scrolling, as there is no need to further witness birthers' intellectual bashing.
Just one thing, though : Is Barack Obama still president?
Welcome back Jacques.

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Jun 23, 2013
 
Good Morning Jacques,
You had a nice trip I trust, in the Hampshires.
I have been following the Jesse Jackson Jr. trial like a bloodhound hot on a trail of a varmint
They, being him and his wife Sandi, get sentenced on the 3rd of July, which as you probably already know, is the day before the 4th of July, for looting his campaign.
I find it to be very symbolic in more ways than one.
Did you know that the sentencing judge is also named Jackson (no relation) and that she did not preside over the trial?
I guess the trial judge was elevated to a new position by President Obama, to the Appelate Court or something similar.
I find that legal manuever odd, that he not be sentenced by the trial judge, but I'm not an attorney at law.
I bet they're on pins and needles awaiting the outcome of their fate.

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Jun 23, 2013
 
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With all due respect.
The Garden of Eden was in Babylon, present day Iraq.
NOT Africa.
No need to be tossing around respect in here...you might break something...:)

The first known civilization was middle eastern. The Sumarians. Strange that being so little removed from the days of celestial showmanship...they knew nothing of the judeo-christian god.

People...are from Africa. All of them if you go back far enough.

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Jun 23, 2013
 
The above post didn't show...I got impatient.

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Jun 23, 2013
 
No takers yet. LMAO! Oh, lil scrotie mcboogerballs, if you're affiliated with pansy Penn in any way, shape or form, rest assured no one is afraid of you. Oh, and do you know how Mr. Kerplunk reacts to being challenged? Why, that big old badazz wanted to take me out on a date for a drink! Queer and coward, not a good combination! LMAO! It will be most interesting to watch you flappers converse amongst yourselves! LMAO!!! That'll keep a puppetmaster quite busy! Let's sit back and observe, shall we? LMAO!!!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/TC6SGHF806...

Although I must confess, when I opened Topix this morning where I had left it, I found the following little pearls, yes, more wise and intellectual droppings from the birther cultural attaché who kept asking why some of us were so angry. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Without further ado :

Oh, lil scrotie mcboogerballs,
Mr. Kerplunk
big old badazz
Queer and coward
flappers

...and I can just picture Pravda Lady fawning over wingman LRS's biblical words as she/he and other various birthers fight over the kerplunk spoils.

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Merci, my friend.

Birthers : Mercy

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Jun 23, 2013
 
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Generals Speak Out Against Rumsfeld
DoD Determines US Foreign Policy, PERIOD!!! Congress is SUPERFLUOUS!!! The only thing to FEAR, is NOT ENOUGH FEAR.
"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste.
"My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions -- or bury the results."
-- Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold.
"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs.
"We grow up in a culture where accountability, learning to accept responsibility, admitting mistakes and learning from them was critical to us. When we don't see that happening it worries us. Poor military judgment has been used throughout this mission."
-- Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former chief of U.S. Central Command.
"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him.... I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack.
"He has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq.... Mr. Rumsfeld must step down."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.
Perfect security is Not attainable at any price!!!
STAR WARS & other MISSILE DEFENSE for a Trillion Dollars may stop 8 atomic war heads, but 2 will still hit their mark.
What can be achieved besides mutually assured destruction, is BANKRUPTING the US TREASURY.
-- Retired Army General Wesley K. Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
Rumsfeld should be executed on pay per view.

I would throw down another 50 bucks if they manage to fit Kissinger in.

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Jun 23, 2013
 
Not that his case went to full blown trial, but there was a lot of legal wrangling going on behind the scenes and in the courtroom beforehand.
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Jun 23, 2013
 
wojar wrote:
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"It" has never been about the BC or faux irrational document issues. It's about irrational hatred of Mr. Liars and his birfoon friends.
Have you ever lived in Dacula, GA?
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Hatred? No. Not willing to put up with this type of garbage....YES! I have not lived in Dacula (if there is such a place). Do you still live in a dumpster?

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Jun 23, 2013
 
Whilst in Vermont's lovely and small capital, I came across this magazine "Women" that carried the following article, first part scary, second part delightful. Of course, being a women's magazine, it HAS to be feminist and socialist, verging on communism. Enjoy :

Publisher's Message

by Suzanne Gillis

sue

Coming Home to Vermont

Reading Tomas Young's The Last Letter from a Dying Veteran addressed to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney brought me to tears and anguish and despair. I recognized why when, just a few days ago, I was again roiled into a sickened rage after reading a Huff Post's Jon Ward interview with "W" while he was out in Crawford, Texas, mountain biking with 13 vets, four of whom had visible war injuries.

Ward asked Bush if he felt responsible for the injuries suffered by the men he was hosting and riding with. Bush remarked, "Well, to a certain extent you can't help it, because had I not made decisions I made, they wouldn't have been in combat... On the other hand, every one of these men were volunteers. None of them are angry. They themselves don't blame anybody. And so I believe strongly that the decisions I made were the right decisions, you know? I knew going in that there were bad consequences to war. That's why, if people study my decision, they would recognize I tried to solve the problems diplomatically."



Bush still searched for a few more words, when it came to the individual men and women who had suffered gruesome injuries in the two wars. "You know, I don't feel sorry for them, because they don't feel sorry for themselves."
So here is the tally so far for W's two wars:

Total Americans Dead 6471
Total Iraq War Injured 32,000
Total Afghanistan War Injured 18,000
Total Civilians Dead 132,00
Total America Cost $3 Trillion Dollars and Counting...

Imagine a former President, the most recent one we have, leaving office with two ongoing, unresolved and unpaid-for wars of choice and a banking crisis that nearly bankrupted the country, and leaving his Republican party filled with extremist conservatives who have managed our system of government into paralysis.

And what does he do in his retirement while wallowing in his private wealth, but play golf, mountain bike, paint pictures of himself naked in the bath tub and shower (and email them), spend more tax-payer millions on his presidential library, which he filled with lies and no books, and then publicly makes dumb statements about our vets, while he smirks and gloats ad nauseum.

Perhaps you too feel rage.

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2...

Which leads me to Vermont.

Do you ever dream of what it would be like if the country were more like Vermont?

Vermont is not perfect. Vermont does, however, inspire and provide a leadership model for the rest of the country. The Vermont Constitution was the first in the nation to abolish slavery, provide for male voting rights for all men, not just property owners (but not women), and funding for a state university in support of public education.

Vermont was the first state to legalize abortions, the first in the nation to create civil unions, followed by being the first state to legislatively pass the Marriage Equality Act by overriding the veto of then-Governor Jim Douglas.

Other "firsts" are in process, such as banning fracking, closing down an antiquated nuclear plant and implement- ing a single- payer health care system.

What is it then that makes Vermont a leader on so many tough issues? Is it the early Vermont settlers, a fiercely in- dependent bunch; secular, hardworking, fair-minded, living isolated from one another yet powerfully committed to community? Think of their choice for a Vermont motto: Freedom and Unity.

Perhaps it's the Vt. constitution, admired for its brevity, that set the course for all of us so long ago. Or is it the beauty of our landscape we are so connected to, to lakes and rivers and mountains and meadows—with no billboards allowed. Or is it because so many who move to Vermont do so by choice...because they want to live here....so very different from those who, for whatever reason, are unaware of other options?

It could be Vermont's small population, second in the nation only to Wyoming, which provides us a kind of neighborly intimacy. Or could it be Vermont's small press corps, or an accessible, progressive congressional delegation and state government, or our Town Meeting Day. Overall Vermont has an active citizenry who remain feisty, opinionated, vocal and mostly respectful and civil.

Out of this Vermont melting pot comes a can-do optimism of thinkers, writers, educators, health providers, farmers, actors, painters, musicians, political activists, policy wonks and business folks of all kinds; all happy to be living in Vermont and all doing their best to make a difference.

For example, in this issue of Vermont Woman we have several feature profiles, including our cover feature on Middlebury's Bill McKibben, a tireless, internationally-known, respected and controversial climate change activist. Con Hogan, a long-time beloved Vermont public servant, who has clarity about human nature and human needs, an
uncanny sense of governance, and a realistic yet open-minded mastery of policymaking. Con is currently the elder statesman on the important Green Mountain Health Care Board, responsible for finding solutions to cost-containment. Con believes that running his horse farm keeps him grounded in policy-making. How Vermont is that?

Judy Tartaglia, CEO of Central Vermont Medical Center, one of five women running Vermont's hospitals, handles a difficult, multi-layered complex position, while juggling the daunting trials of balancing budgets and providing excellent medical care.

In Vermont, there are conflicts over energy, gun control, growth issues, conservation vs. development and, of course, budget struggles. Yet, this year the Vermont legislature passed a very tough bill, Death with Dignity, the second state in the nation to do so.

Overall, what makes Vermont "Vermont" is the passion and determination of the people who live here, who for the most part are rugged, intelligent, authentic and fair, who in the end will bow to fairness, community and beauty over profits.
We can wish for, even strive for perfection, but overall Vermont is about as good as it gets. Vermonters are among the healthiest and happiest in the country. The rest of the nation should take a big cue from Vermont.

Think of how exhilarated you feel, every time you come home to Vermont.-

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Jun 23, 2013
 
Jacques,
Did you know that Jesse Jackson Jr. had some sort of stomach stapling procedure done in the past?
I'm not sure exactly what his problem was, other that alcohholism and bi-polar disorder, but I think he may have been victimized by some unsavory figures in the medical community.
Not that I am very familiar with him or anything of the sort, but of all the pictures I have ever seen of him he did not look obese in any way, shape or form, and therefore was never a viable candidate for that type of drastic elective surgery as a last ditch effort to lose unwanted weight.
Just an educated guess on my part.
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1. FDR was a socialist/communist and not an American.
2. Yes, Progressive/Liberals are against human rights.
3. Obama recognizes how powerful the Tea Party has become so he wants to terminate them.
4. You have to be loyal and put your party first over all other things. Like Mafia.
5. Woman should be barefoot and pregnant and keep the Man satisfied.
6. The corporate Rightwing Media in collusion with corporate Mainstream Media always tells the truth and informs our masses.
7. Obama is not spying on Americans. Only Bush and Cheney spied on
Americans.
8. Reagan was a holy man and never did anything wrong, just like JESUS.
9. Obama took all the Corporate Power away and banned all the thousands of lobbyist in Washington DC. Lobbyist do not even write the legislation in the Obama administration. They did write the bills with Bush and Cheney.
10. The Unions are the real power in America. They even give themselves big bonuses at taxpayers expense.
11. Yes, Intellectuals are the idiots and do not contribute to society.
12. Terry Larkin should be promoted to the ranks of General, for telling the truth about Obama being an illegal alien.
13. The United States never had a fraudulent election. That only happens in countries like Iraq.
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You are finally starting to sound like a good American Link!

Let us see if I can't help.

1. It is no big deal the dept. of homeland security needs a ridiculous number of drones, they are there to secure the homeland.

2. It is ok to give up your constitutional rights so that govt. can do their jobs.

3. Those videos on youtube did not exist and were bad for you.

4. Foreign aid takes money from the rich people in a rich country and gives it to the poor people of a poor country.

5. Sarah Jessica Parker is sexy.

6. The N.S.A. has to get warrants to spy on private citizens unless it takes too long.

7. The Obama administration's operation fast and furious was arming the Mexican drug cartels for a good reason.

8. Ollie North is above the law. Just shut up about it.

9. Guns are bad. Floride is yummy.

10. You should call your doctor about that new medicine you saw on TV.

11. You should call your lawyer about that medicine you asked your doctor about.

12. There is no child with a problem too big for ritalin to handle.

13. Polar bears can not swim.

14. Al Queda is here...around every corner. They most likely work for Ron Paul.

15. The big firey ball in the middle of our solar system has nothing to do with the temperature of the Earth.

16. A gas that plants create and animals have been exhaling for millions of years is bad for the environment.

17. The company you work for cares about you and the customer.

18. Corporations are people.

19. Of coarse it is change, if you can't see that... you are a racist.

20. More police = less crime.

21. Patriots support their govt. regardless of it's actions.

22. The Federal Reserve is a totally constitutional part of our govt. They have the best interest of the people in mind.

23. You should try and get the flu shot and at least two boosters before you get the flu.

24. There has never been a better time to invest in the stock market.

25. When asked your opinion...try and repeat what you heard on T.V.

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loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Did you know that Jesse Jackson Jr. had some sort of stomach stapling procedure done in the past?
I'm not sure exactly what his problem was, other that alcohholism and bi-polar disorder, but I think he may have been victimized by some unsavory figures in the medical community.
Not that I am very familiar with him or anything of the sort, but of all the pictures I have ever seen of him he did not look obese in any way, shape or form, and therefore was never a viable candidate for that type of drastic elective surgery as a last ditch effort to lose unwanted weight.
Just an educated guess on my part.
loose
Jessie Jackson jr did not get his stomach stapled, he had it zippered, thereby making it easier for him to access his stolen money.

What exactly is your obsession with this person? So he's crooked, like so many other politicians of every known stripe. I suppose he should pay the price like any crook but the betting is he'll receive a slap on the wrist, again, not unlike "so many other politician of every known stripe".

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Linktv org wrote:
____ It's the "LEFT" who have suppressed the official consensus analysis reports that TOTAL VICTORY in Iraq is IMPOSSIBLE, like the PENTAGON PAPERS.
____ It's the "LEFT" who are intent on including tactical nuclear weapons in the Iran DE-NUCLEARIZATION 400+ MISSILE plan to bomb them back to the STONE AGE as first strike regardless of the probable escalation in to GLOBAL NUCLEAR World War between Muslim and Christian nations.
____ It's the "LEFT" who claim to be intent on reforming the UN but are actually devaluating and destroying it in favor of IMF, World Bank Private Equity Corporate control.
____ It's the "LEFT" who authorized SHOT TO KILL orders to paramilitary contractors and regular military in and around NOLA after Katrina in breach of POSSE COMITATUS.
____ It's the "LEFT" who made the administration present the assertion of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, that the INSURGENCY IS IN ITS LAST THROWS and that SADDAM was involved in 9/11.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have closed veterans medical facilities and believe that PTSD is minor problem that THERAPY does nothing for.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have declared a war on drugs and gangs that has spawned a self fulfilling prison industrial complex and created more extremist groups with more members by fostering fundamentalists evangelical end of days fanaticism.
____ Clinton was definitely a LEFTY when he sign off on NAFTA that eliminated the livelihood of millions on both sides of the border via WTO multinational corporate subsidies resulting in the COYOTE trade illegal alien train of death whose alternative is starvation.
____ It's the "LEFT" who inserted the promise to increase energy independence federal financing in to the state of the union address while actually cutting that budget line item, lifted EPA protections regarding national pipeline operation and OSHA coal mine safety regulations.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have left the cost of IRAQ WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION cost off the national debt/deficit balance sheet and raided SSI funds off balance sheet accounting.
____ It's the "LEFT" who were responsible for the voter purge list in Florida and the 2004 false terror alert the Ohio election.
____ All the GENERALS opposed to the IRAQ INVASION and perpetual OCCUPATION are "LEFTIES".
____ It's the "LEFT" who came up with the thesis that a CATALYZING EVENT like PEARL HARBOR would be necessary to continue the expansion of the EMPIRE, if the US is not growing it is in jeopardy of being marginalized to oblivion .
It is the right that did all that stuff.
Where did that info come from you are using is very wrong.
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Justice LRS said:

"Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form."

"Justice LRSA said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "

THAT is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.

Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him. YOU know this and yet you deny it. That is lying.

You said: "Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with that." That implies that the official copy sent to you is legally not as good as the one that was sent to your parents, and that is a LIE.

In fact, BOTH Mitt Romney and Obama showed official copies of their birth certificates and millions of people (including me) have lost their originals. It is perfectly legal to use a replacement copy of your birth certificate and it is just as legal as the one that was sent to your family. And, in fact, even if you have the one that was sent, you have every right to get a more recent official copy and use that---for convenience or because you think it looks clearer or for any reason at all.

You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."

That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.

You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."

And yet you know that the long form image that the White House put online says CERTIFICATE of birth on it and that the officials in Hawaii say that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has shown (and that includes the word "certificate") are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, so he has indeed shown a CERTIFICATE.

And by saying "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth" you have implied that a CERTIFICATION is legally not as good as a CERTIFIATE,which is also not true. And, duh, Obama showed BOTH of them, and in fact he showed both the images of them and the physical copies with the seal on them to the press and one reporter stated that she felt the seal.

You said: "Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form. "

And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and saw that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files and that there is an original and that they copied the original to make the official long-form copy is A LIE.
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Justice LRS said:
"Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form."
"Justice LRSA said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "
THAT is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.
Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him. YOU know this and yet you deny it. That is lying.
You said: "Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with that." That implies that the official copy sent to you is legally not as good as the one that was sent to your parents, and that is a LIE.
In fact, BOTH Mitt Romney and Obama showed official copies of their birth certificates and millions of people (including me) have lost their originals. It is perfectly legal to use a replacement copy of your birth certificate and it is just as legal as the one that was sent to your family. And, in fact, even if you have the one that was sent, you have every right to get a more recent official copy and use that---for convenience or because you think it looks clearer or for any reason at all.
You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."
That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.
You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."
And yet you know that the long form image that the White House put online says CERTIFICATE of birth on it and that the officials in Hawaii say that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has shown (and that includes the word "certificate") are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, so he has indeed shown a CERTIFICATE.
And by saying "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth" you have implied that a CERTIFICATION is legally not as good as a CERTIFIATE,which is also not true. And, duh, Obama showed BOTH of them, and in fact he showed both the images of them and the physical copies with the seal on them to the press and one reporter stated that she felt the seal.
You said: "Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form. "
And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and saw that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files and that there is an original and that they copied the original to make the official long-form copy is A LIE.
First, who is LRSA? Second, I did not see the word requirement in my post. Third, you're a blonde, aren't ya?
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Jun 23, 2013
 
We do not negotiate with terrorists and this is why!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/taliban-k...

Let the sobs kill themselves off.
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Shreveport, LA

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Jun 23, 2013
 
Gum Flappers = Obumbler Apologists/Excuse Makers

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