BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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<quoted text>Well, how you doing Mr. KKK? Been on the pot all day? Where else would Kurly Kue Kerplunk hang out except the toilet! turdport on a tugboat
More of that high brow material all the other kids in second grade have come to expect. Where is that moron that was whining about issues?
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Correct me if I am wrong Wojar...
I think I have heard Dawkins say the bottleneck occurred before the species left Africa. As a matter of fact I would wager we wouldn't be around to call it a bottleneck had they stayed.
I don't know what Dawkins said but the timing of the migration(s) and bottleneck are not known to sufficient precision for a definitive conclusion.
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Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with you. Sorry but you'll have to sell that pure garbage elsewhere. If a president requested a copy of his "ORIGINAL" BC, he would have received it. But he didn't. Holds no water with me. And by your favorite saying, simply repeating something over and over doesn't make it so. But but but...Hawaii said so! But but but...Dr. Ukulele said so and even signed it! Keep telling yourself that, toesap. One day you might even believe it. tokenpol
Millions of people lose the birth certificate that were sent to their parents. That is why states send copies. I'm one of those who lost my original. Both Mitt Romney and Obama are others.

Re: "If a president requested a copy of his "ORIGINAL" BC, he would have received it..."

Answer. No he wouldn't. He MIGHT. In any case, duh, Obama requested the copy of his birth certificate in June 2008 when he was, wait for it, only a junior senator from Illinois, not even the Democratic Party's presidential candidate.

Re: "Dr. Ukulele said so..."

Her name is Verna K. Lee. The V looks like a U.

In any case, Hawaii has stated that it sent both the short form birth certificate to Obama before the 2008 election and the long form birth certificate in 2011 and that the facts on the copies that Obama has show are exactly, repeat EXACTLY, the same as on what they sent to him.
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Millions of people lose the birth certificate that were sent to their parents. That is why states send copies. I'm one of those who lost my original. Both Mitt Romney and Obama are others.
Re: "If a president requested a copy of his "ORIGINAL" BC, he would have received it..."
Answer. No he wouldn't. He MIGHT. In any case, duh, Obama requested the copy of his birth certificate in June 2008 when he was, wait for it, only a junior senator from Illinois, not even the Democratic Party's presidential candidate.
Re: "Dr. Ukulele said so..."
Her name is Verna K. Lee. The V looks like a U.
In any case, Hawaii has stated that it sent both the short form birth certificate to Obama before the 2008 election and the long form birth certificate in 2011 and that the facts on the copies that Obama has show are exactly, repeat EXACTLY, the same as on what they sent to him.
Do America a favor and quit making excuses for this man!

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14 Points of Fascism
http://tinyurl.com/2dfewwu
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - 2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4.) Supremacy of the Military - 5.) Rampant Sexism - 6.) Controlled Mass Media
7.) Obsession with National Security - 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined - 9.) Corporate Power is Protected:- 10.) Labor Power is Suppressed:- 11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment - 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - 14. Fraudulent Elections:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/antifascism...
Ah, you are twisting your facts.
1) Did not FDR promote NATIONALISM during WWII?
2) Disdain for human rights? Progressivism, socialism, Communism, Fascism!!!
3) Identify enemies? And what did Obama do about TEA Partiers?
4) Supremacy of the military? In Fascist Germany, the military were enslaved to the Black Shirts? Who killed Field Marshall Rommel?
5) Rampant sexism? Can you even define that?
6) Control of Mass Media? Obama has a war against the press. If the press says anything Obama does not like, he will have them fired, imprisoned, etc.
7) Obsessed with National Security? Well, Obama has made the TEA Partiers and Patriots enemies of the state!
8) Religion and government intertwined? Sorry Tootzie, we still have FREEDOM to practice our religion and we do not want Obama to tell us how to practice our religion either!
9) Corporate Power is Protected? Not under Obama. If you do not play by Obamas rules, you will be hit by the IRS, FBI, OSHA, EPA, etc. Just look at Gibson guitars!!!
10) Labor power is suppressed? No, we will not let them run amok! If you want to strike against the government. Look what FDR did to the railroads!!!
11) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts. Just the intellectuals who are idiots and if you can not make money in the arts, you are not worth it!
12) Obsessed with crime and punishment? I guess Obama did not want Colonel Terry Lakin to be put in prison then? Normally a war protesters would be one of your heroes!
13) Fraudulent Elections? Why yu still think Owl Gore was our 41st president, don't you?
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Do America a favor and quit making excuses for this man!
I'm sorry, loser, but the President doesn't need an excuse because a paranoid schizophrenic in Louisiana demands to see the cert that was given to his momma rather than another certified copy.
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Do America a favor and quit making excuses for this man!
Do America a favor and stop lying.

You are lying when you say that the original is required. It isn't. An official copy of either the short form birth certificate or the long form birth certificate is legal proof of birth in a state, and Obama has both of them and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed it.
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Do America a favor and stop lying.
You are lying when you say that the original is required. It isn't. An official copy of either the short form birth certificate or the long form birth certificate is legal proof of birth in a state, and Obama has both of them and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed it.
Mr. Liars cannot help himself.
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<quoted text>I'm sorry, loser, but the President doesn't need an excuse because a paranoid schizophrenic in Louisiana demands to see the cert that was given to his momma rather than another certified copy.
Oh, it's more than just the BC! Well, you know the long list of document issues. You need to quit making excuses for him too! Regardless of where he is from, as a president, he is a bomb! The biggest in history. Hands down.



There are roses down here 6 feet across, toesap. LMAO!
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Do America a favor and stop lying.
You are lying when you say that the original is required. It isn't. An official copy of either the short form birth certificate or the long form birth certificate is legal proof of birth in a state, and Obama has both of them and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed it.
Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form.
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Oh, it's more than just the BC! Well, you know the long list of document issues. You need to quit making excuses for him too! Regardless of where he is from, as a president, he is a bomb! The biggest in history. Hands down.
There are roses down here 6 feet across, toesap. LMAO!
"It" has never been about the BC or faux irrational document issues. It's about irrational hatred of Mr. Liars and his birfoon friends.

Have you ever lived in Dacula, GA?
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<quoted text>I'm sorry, loser, but the President doesn't need an excuse because a paranoid schizophrenic in Louisiana demands to see the cert that was given to his momma rather than another certified copy.
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Oh, it's more than just the BC! Well, you know the long list of document issues. You need to quit making excuses for him too! Regardless of where he is from, as a president, he is a bomb! The biggest in history. Hands down.
There are roses down here 6 feet across, toesap. LMAO!
Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him.
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Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form.
You said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "
That is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.

Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him. YOU know this and yet you deny it. That is lying.

You said: "Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with that." That implies that the official copy sent to you is legally not as good as the one that was sent to your parents, and that is a LIE.

In fact, BOTH Mitt Romney and Obama showed official copies of their birth certificates and millions of people (including me) have lost their originals. It is perfectly legal to use a replacement copy of your birth certificate and it is just as legal as the one that was sent to your family. And, in fact, even if you have the one that was sent, you have every right to get a more recent official copy and use that---for convenience or because you think it looks clearer or for any reason at all.

You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."

That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.

You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."

And yet you know that the long form image that the White House put online says CERTIFICATE of birth on it and that the officials in Hawaii say that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has shown (and that includes the word "certificate") are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, so he has indeed shown a CERTIFICATE.

And by saying "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth" you have implied that a CERTIFICATION is legally not as good as a CERTIFIATE,which is also not true. And, duh, Obama showed BOTH of them, and in fact he showed both the images of them and the physical copies with the seal on them to the press and one reporter stated that she felt the seal.

You said: "Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form. "

And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that this statement is A LIE.
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Ah, you are twisting your facts.
1) Did not FDR promote NATIONALISM during WWII?
2) Disdain for human rights? Progressivism, socialism, Communism, Fascism!!!
3) Identify enemies? And what did Obama do about TEA Partiers?
4) Supremacy of the military? In Fascist Germany, the military were enslaved to the Black Shirts? Who killed Field Marshall Rommel?
5) Rampant sexism? Can you even define that?
6) Control of Mass Media? Obama has a war against the press. If the press says anything Obama does not like, he will have them fired, imprisoned, etc.
7) Obsessed with National Security? Well, Obama has made the TEA Partiers and Patriots enemies of the state!
8) Religion and government intertwined? Sorry Tootzie, we still have FREEDOM to practice our religion and we do not want Obama to tell us how to practice our religion either!
9) Corporate Power is Protected? Not under Obama. If you do not play by Obamas rules, you will be hit by the IRS, FBI, OSHA, EPA, etc. Just look at Gibson guitars!!!
10) Labor power is suppressed? No, we will not let them run amok! If you want to strike against the government. Look what FDR did to the railroads!!!
11) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts. Just the intellectuals who are idiots and if you can not make money in the arts, you are not worth it!
12) Obsessed with crime and punishment? I guess Obama did not want Colonel Terry Lakin to be put in prison then? Normally a war protesters would be one of your heroes!
13) Fraudulent Elections? Why yu still think Owl Gore was our 41st president, don't you?
1. FDR was a socialist/communist and not an American.

2. Yes, Progressive/Liberals are against human rights.

3. Obama recognizes how powerful the Tea Party has become so he wants to terminate them.

4. You have to be loyal and put your party first over all other things. Like Mafia.

5. Woman should be barefoot and pregnant and keep the Man satisfied.

6. The corporate Rightwing Media in collusion with corporate Mainstream Media always tells the truth and informs our masses.

7. Obama is not spying on Americans. Only Bush and Cheney spied on
Americans.

8. Reagan was a holy man and never did anything wrong, just like JESUS.

9. Obama took all the Corporate Power away and banned all the thousands of lobbyist in Washington DC. Lobbyist do not even write the legislation in the Obama administration. They did write the bills with Bush and Cheney.

10. The Unions are the real power in America. They even give themselves big bonuses at taxpayers expense.

11. Yes, Intellectuals are the idiots and do not contribute to society.

12. Terry Larkin should be promoted to the ranks of General, for telling the truth about Obama being an illegal alien.

13. The United States never had a fraudulent election. That only happens in countries like Iraq.

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Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions of property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.,

The tone is familiar. Is it Clintonís Anti-Terrorism Act of 1996?

Is it the Bush Patriot Act of 2001?

No. It is from Hitlerís 1933 speech calling for an Enabling Act for the protection of the People and the State after the catastrophic Reichstag fire that the Nazis had secretly lit.
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____ It's the "LEFT" who have suppressed the official consensus analysis reports that TOTAL VICTORY in Iraq is IMPOSSIBLE, like the PENTAGON PAPERS.

____ It's the "LEFT" who are intent on including tactical nuclear weapons in the Iran DE-NUCLEARIZATION 400+ MISSILE plan to bomb them back to the STONE AGE as first strike regardless of the probable escalation in to GLOBAL NUCLEAR World War between Muslim and Christian nations.

____ It's the "LEFT" who claim to be intent on reforming the UN but are actually devaluating and destroying it in favor of IMF, World Bank Private Equity Corporate control.

____ It's the "LEFT" who authorized SHOT TO KILL orders to paramilitary contractors and regular military in and around NOLA after Katrina in breach of POSSE COMITATUS.

____ It's the "LEFT" who made the administration present the assertion of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, that the INSURGENCY IS IN ITS LAST THROWS and that SADDAM was involved in 9/11.

____ It's the "LEFT" who have closed veterans medical facilities and believe that PTSD is minor problem that THERAPY does nothing for.

____ It's the "LEFT" who have declared a war on drugs and gangs that has spawned a self fulfilling prison industrial complex and created more extremist groups with more members by fostering fundamentalists evangelical end of days fanaticism.

____ Clinton was definitely a LEFTY when he sign off on NAFTA that eliminated the livelihood of millions on both sides of the border via WTO multinational corporate subsidies resulting in the COYOTE trade illegal alien train of death whose alternative is starvation.

____ It's the "LEFT" who inserted the promise to increase energy independence federal financing in to the state of the union address while actually cutting that budget line item, lifted EPA protections regarding national pipeline operation and OSHA coal mine safety regulations.

____ It's the "LEFT" who have left the cost of IRAQ WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION cost off the national debt/deficit balance sheet and raided SSI funds off balance sheet accounting.

____ It's the "LEFT" who were responsible for the voter purge list in Florida and the 2004 false terror alert the Ohio election.

____ All the GENERALS opposed to the IRAQ INVASION and perpetual OCCUPATION are "LEFTIES".

____ It's the "LEFT" who came up with the thesis that a CATALYZING EVENT like PEARL HARBOR would be necessary to continue the expansion of the EMPIRE, if the US is not growing it is in jeopardy of being marginalized to oblivion .
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Generals Speak Out Against Rumsfeld
DoD Determines US Foreign Policy, PERIOD!!! Congress is SUPERFLUOUS!!! The only thing to FEAR, is NOT ENOUGH FEAR.

"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste.

"My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions -- or bury the results."
-- Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold.

"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs.

"We grow up in a culture where accountability, learning to accept responsibility, admitting mistakes and learning from them was critical to us. When we don't see that happening it worries us. Poor military judgment has been used throughout this mission."
-- Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former chief of U.S. Central Command.

"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him.... I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack.

"He has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq.... Mr. Rumsfeld must step down."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.

Perfect security is Not attainable at any price!!!
STAR WARS & other MISSILE DEFENSE for a Trillion Dollars may stop 8 atomic war heads, but 2 will still hit their mark.

What can be achieved besides mutually assured destruction, is BANKRUPTING the US TREASURY.
-- Retired Army General Wesley K. Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
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Correct me if I am wrong Wojar...
I think I have heard Dawkins say the bottleneck occurred before the species left Africa. As a matter of fact I would wager we wouldn't be around to call it a bottleneck had they stayed.
With all due respect.

The Garden of Eden was in Babylon, present day Iraq.

NOT Africa.

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Good morning all.

Been away a few days. Not going to bother scrolling, as there is no need to further witness birthers' intellectual bashing.

Just one thing, though : Is Barack Obama still president?

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Linktv org wrote:
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With all due respect.
The Garden of Eden was in Babylon, present day Iraq.
NOT Africa.
No need to be tossing around respect in here.:)

Not if you asked Romney. He is pretty sure it is in Missouri.

What evidence do we have that says the garden was in Babylon? Any field will do.

The first civilization in that region was Sumarian. Strange that being so little removed from all the showmanship God supposedly had back in the day...they new nothing of him.

People...are all from Africa.

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