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#160757 Jun 22, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
Creeping Fascism: Lessons From the Past
by Ray McGovern CIA Ret. http://tinyurl.com/33mpdr
“There are few things as odd as the calm, superior indifference with which I and those like me watched the beginnings of the Nazi revolution in Germany, as if from a box at the theater…Perhaps the only comparably odd thing is the way that now, years later….”
These are the words of Sebastian Haffner (pen name for Raimund Pretzel), who as a young lawyer in Berlin during the 1930s experienced the Nazi takeover and wrote a first-hand account. His children found the manuscript when he died in 1999 and published it the following year as “Geschichte eines Deutschen”(The Story of a German). The book became an immediate bestseller and has been translated into 20 languages-in English as “Defying Hitler.”
I recently learned from his daughter Sarah, an artist in Berlin, that today is the 100th anniversary of Haffner’s birth. She had seen an earlier article in which I quoted her father and emailed to ask me to “write some more about the book and the comparison to Bush’s America…this is almost unbelievable.”
More about Haffner below. Let’s set the stage first by recapping some of what has been going on that may have resonance for readers familiar with the Nazi ascendancy, noting how “odd” it is that the frontal attack on our Constitutional rights is met with such “calm, superior indifference.”
Goebbels Would be Proud
It has been two years since top New York Times officials decided to let the rest of us in on the fact that the George W. Bush administration had been eavesdropping on American citizens without the court warrants required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978. The Times had learned of this well before the election in 2004 and acquiesced to White House entreaties to suppress the damaging information.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/2...
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George W. Bush: A CIA Analysis
by Ray McGovern CIA Ret. August 22, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2hpqtq
It is as though I'm back as an analyst at the CIA, trying to estimate the chances of an attack on Iran. The putative attacker, though, happens to be our own president.
It is precisely the work we analysts used to do. And, while it is still a bit jarring to be turning our analytical tools on the U.S. leadership, it is by no means entirely new. For, of necessity, we Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) have been doing that for almost six years now – ever since 9/11, when "everything changed."
Of necessity? Yes, because, with very few exceptions, American journalists lose their jobs if they expose things like fraudulent wars.
The craft of CIA analysis was designed to be an all-source operation, meaning that we analysts were responsible – and held accountable – for assimilating information from all sources and coming to judgments on what it all meant. We used information of all kinds, from the most sophisticated technical collection platforms to spies to open media.
Here I have to reveal a trade secret, which punctures the mystique of intelligence analysis. Generally speaking, 80 percent of the information one needs to form judgments on key intelligence targets or issues is available in open media.
http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/...
What is sad is that you are clueless to what Fascism is. The only difference between NAZI Fascism and Soviet Communism is that while Communism owns everything, in Fascism they just CONTROL everything. And that is just what you progressives want. to be abe to tell businesses what to do, who to buy room, who to sell to, what price to pay, who you can employee, etc.
Obama is a classic Fascist!

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#160758 Jun 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And you Libtards wonder why we taxpayers are pissed off!?!
Rogue
IRS Sent $46M in Refunds to 23K Illegals at 1 Atlanta Address
Posted on June 22, 2013
The incompetence of liberals at its finest. Waste, fraud, and abuse define liberalism.
Check it out:
The Internal Revenue Service sent 23,994 tax refunds worth a combined $46,378,040 to “unauthorized” alien workers who all used the same address in Atlanta, Ga., in 2011, according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).
That was not the only Atlanta address theoretically occupied by thousands of “unauthorized” alien workers receiving millions in federal tax refunds in 2011. In fact, according to a TIGTA audit report published last year, four of the top ten addresses to which the IRS sent thousands of tax refunds to “unauthorized” aliens were in Atlanta.
The IRS sent 11,284 refunds worth a combined $2,164,976 to unauthorized alien workers at a second Atlanta address; 3,608 worth $2,691,448 to a third; and 2,386 worth $1,232,943 to a fourth.
Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/06/irs-sent -...

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
wojar wrote:
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The loophole that allowed the fraudulent ITIN-based refunds were authorized by a bill that passed a Republican controlled Senate.
Duh!
And that means Obama can totally ignore tax fraud in black majority areas while going after people who belong to TEA Party and Patriot groups???

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160759 Jun 22, 2013
How prescient. Stanley Kubrick captured the essence of birfoon thinking in Dr. Strangelove:

Colonel Guano: "I think you're some kind of deviated prevert. I think General Ripper found out about your preversions and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts. Now move!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160760 Jun 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Romper is too busy trying to prove that Noah repopulated the earth after the Great Flood. I personally think Dr. Strangelove's plan was better.
Nice shot Oswald!

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#160761 Jun 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And you Libtards wonder why we taxpayers are pissed off!?!
Rogue
IRS Sent $46M in Refunds to 23K Illegals at 1 Atlanta Address
Posted on June 22, 2013
The incompetence of liberals at its finest. Waste, fraud, and abuse define liberalism.
Check it out:
The Internal Revenue Service sent 23,994 tax refunds worth a combined $46,378,040 to “unauthorized” alien workers who all used the same address in Atlanta, Ga., in 2011, according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).
That was not the only Atlanta address theoretically occupied by thousands of “unauthorized” alien workers receiving millions in federal tax refunds in 2011. In fact, according to a TIGTA audit report published last year, four of the top ten addresses to which the IRS sent thousands of tax refunds to “unauthorized” aliens were in Atlanta.
The IRS sent 11,284 refunds worth a combined $2,164,976 to unauthorized alien workers at a second Atlanta address; 3,608 worth $2,691,448 to a third; and 2,386 worth $1,232,943 to a fourth.
Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/06/irs-sent -...

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
wojar wrote:
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Here is the IG's report.
http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/20...
The only mention of Atlanta is in the letterhead of a memorandum.
Ah Zipperhead, did you notice that that report is TWO F-ING YEARS OLD??? So they identified a few problem areas, what have they done to correct them? Oh I know. Investigate members of TEA Part and Patriot groups!!!

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#160762 Jun 22, 2013
Oh, isn't that the same IG who investigated the IRS's handling of Tax Exempt organizations???
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160763 Jun 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
How prescient. Stanley Kubrick captured the essence of birfoon thinking in Dr. Strangelove:
Colonel Guano: "I think you're some kind of deviated prevert. I think General Ripper found out about your preversions and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts. Now move!
The goober gobbler is talking about perversions? LMAO! tokenpol

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160764 Jun 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ah Zipperhead, did you notice that that report is TWO F-ING YEARS OLD??? So they identified a few problem areas, what have they done to correct them? Oh I know. Investigate members of TEA Part and Patriot groups!!!
Your contention is that they did nothing?

If so, prove it.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160765 Jun 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ah Zipperhead, did you notice that that report is TWO F-ING YEARS OLD??? So they identified a few problem areas, what have they done to correct them? Oh I know. Investigate members of TEA Part and Patriot groups!!!
Since it was caused by a loophole in a 1998 law that passed a Republican Congress, what have the Tea Baggers in Congress done? Obstructionism and grandstanding (like the 37 Obamacare repeal bills).
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160766 Jun 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an ignorant lil bastard, aren't ya? See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. Unfortunately, that is not the case as Obumbler doesn't seem to have a paper trail of any legitimate docs. I wonder why that is? The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth. Only a certification. Now, if he just hadn't lost that original. Dang! Nothing but smoke and mirrors at every turn. Open wide because Obumbler will continue to throw shovelful after shovelful of shyt right down your throat. Eat up tokenpol!
BOTH Obama and Mitt Romney showed the current official copies of their birth certifiates and not the originals sent to their parents. Current official copies of birth certificates are legally as good as the ones sent to parents and have always been so.

Obama showed both his short form birth certificate, the certification (which is perfectly legal and just as good as any other birth certificate) and he also showed the long form birth certificate, known as the certificate. So your statement "he did not show a certificate of birth. Only a certification" is a lie.

Oh, and the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent the certification and the certificate to Obama and that the facts on the copies that Obama had put online are exactly the same, repeat EXACTLY the same, as on what they sent him.

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#160767 Jun 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ah Zipperhead, did you notice that that report is TWO F-ING YEARS OLD??? So they identified a few problem areas, what have they done to correct them? Oh I know. Investigate members of TEA Part and Patriot groups!!!

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Your contention is that they did nothing?
If so, prove it.
My contention is they identified the problem TWO YEARS AGO and did nothing!!!
What if the FAA found crack in the wing of a plane two years ago but allowed it to fly until the wing fell off and everyone on board was KILLED? Would that be okay with you???
Oh, killed at airshow in Dayton, OH.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160768 Jun 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
The goober gobbler is talking about perversions? LMAO! tokenpol
What clever repartee from Birfoonistan.
wojar wrote:
How prescient. Stanley Kubrick captured the essence of birfoon thinking in Dr. Strangelove:
Colonel Guano: "I think you're some kind of deviated prevert. I think General Ripper found out about your preversions and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts. Now move!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160769 Jun 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Your contention is that they did nothing?
If so, prove it.
When requested, we were told those particular papers had been lost! Although, we were assured that the gov. was working hard to recreate the document to the best of their imagination.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160770 Jun 22, 2013
BTW toesap, the puppy quit whining a long time ago! LMAO!

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#160771 Jun 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ah Zipperhead, did you notice that that report is TWO F-ING YEARS OLD??? So they identified a few problem areas, what have they done to correct them? Oh I know. Investigate members of TEA Part and Patriot groups!!!

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Your contention is that they did nothing?
If so, prove it.
I will use your Libtardian Logic against you. You assume Bush lied about WMD in Iraq because they found NONE. So I assume that Obama did nothing because it is even worse NOW!!!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160772 Jun 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
When requested, we were told those particular papers had been lost! Although, we were assured that the gov. was working hard to recreate the document to the best of their imagination.
Same with his BC. I'm sure you follow. It is an obvious pattern.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160773 Jun 22, 2013
Where is that damn whining coming from? toesap, is that you?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160774 Jun 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an ignorant lil bastard, aren't ya? See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. Unfortunately, that is not the case as Obumbler doesn't seem to have a paper trail of any legitimate docs. I wonder why that is? The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth. Only a certification. Now, if he just hadn't lost that original. Dang! Nothing but smoke and mirrors at every turn. Open wide because Obumbler will continue to throw shovelful after shovelful of shyt right down your throat. Eat up tokenpol!
Only the State of Hawaii has the original, and that is the only relevant "paper trail." The State of Hawaii has officially verified that the President was born in Honolulu at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. If you don't believe it then ask the Secretary of State of Arizona -- unless you think Arizona is in on the nefarious plot.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, a certified birth certificate is the correct document. Both the 2007 and 2011 documents are prima facie evidence of birth in Hawaii. It is Mr. Liars who is incorrect.
Ten years ago I needed a birth certificate and I didn't have the one that was given to my mother when I was born. I ordered one and received it, certified and stamped decades after my birth. According to Mr. Liars, such a document would not be the "correct" one. What is correct for every court, and for every state and federal agency is the "correct document" Mr. Liars. It is Mr. Liars who is incorrect.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160775 Jun 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Your contention is that they did nothing?
If so, prove it.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ah Zipperhead, did you notice that that report is TWO F-ING YEARS OLD??? So they identified a few problem areas, what have they done to correct them? Oh I know. Investigate members of TEA Part and Patriot groups!!!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T... text>
I will use your Libtardian Logic against you. You assume Bush lied about WMD in Iraq because they found NONE. So I assume that Obama did nothing because it is even worse NOW!!!
Huh? Rouge again thinks a non-sequitur is logic. Totally disconnected.

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#160776 Jun 22, 2013
Damn, another Catholic church bombed by Protestants.

Dead bodies, caps litter bombed Pak mosque
MQM lawmaker, son shot dead in Karachi

Last updated: Friday, June 21, 2013
PESHAWAR — A suicide attack Friday killed 15 people and wounded more than 25 others at a Shiite mosque and religious seminary on the edge of Pakistan’s northwestern city of Peshawar, officials said. In Karachi, unidentified gunmen shot dead a Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) lawmaker, his son and a passer-by near a mosque.
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm...

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