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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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VoteVets org

Brooklyn, NY

#160950 Jun 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You post quotes from a third party and you tell me to carry on a "decent debate"? Are you kidding. You maybe contributed max 5 words to the above post.
And, I don't care about covenant, Exodus and chronology. You have sex with your mom or dad or sister or half-sister, you are committing an incestuous act. And, the medical consequences are well known, physical and intellectual infirmities to name just two. Were the latter two not a consequence of incest BEFORE it was declared verboten? If God is God, could he have not found a better way than incest to populate the earth? How'd he make Adam and Eve? Why did He just not continue thus?
Back in Biblical times everyone was a brother and sister, or cousin, used as general terminology.

Question: Could it be that Abraham never even met Sarah their whole lives, possibly a hundred years passed?

Since: May 10

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#160951 Jun 24, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
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Richard Dawkins is an imbecile.
He thinks the Orangutan was not in Africa.
He doesn't realize that millions and millions of years ago all the continents were grouped together.
It is just speculation on Dawkins part.
Gods word makes just as much sense, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
P.S. I am ready for the return fire for calling your hero an imbecile. LOL
And just why is Richard Dawkins an imbecile? Because he believes in creationism? And what proof do you have that Orangutans were ever in Africa? Maybe there ancestors were from Africa just like the ancestors of New World monkeys.
Typical Libtardian tactics. If you disagree with someone you make a [personal attack like calling them an imbecile. Well, if that is all the ammo you have, I think you are the imbecile!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160952 Jun 24, 2013
From Wiki: In a December 2004 interview with American journalist Bill Moyers, Dawkins said that "among the things that science does know, evolution is about as certain as anything we know." When Moyers questioned him on the use of the word theory, Dawkins stated that "evolution has been observed. It's just that it hasn't been observed while it's happening." He added that "it is rather like a detective coming on a murder after the scene... the detective hasn't actually seen the murder take place, of course. But what you do see is a massive clue... Huge quantities of circumstantial evidence. It might as well be spelled out in words of English."

Dawkins has ardently opposed the inclusion of intelligent design in science education, describing it as "not a scientific argument at all, but a religious one". He has been referred to in the media as "Darwin's Rottweiler", a reference to English biologist T. H. Huxley, who was known as "Darwin's Bulldog" for his advocacy of Charles Darwin's evolutionary ideas. He has been a strong critic of the British organisation Truth in Science, which promotes the teaching of creationism in state schools, and he plans through the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science to subsidise schools with the delivery of books, DVDs, and pamphlets that counteract their (Truth in Science's) work, which Dawkins has described as an "educational scandal".

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#160953 Jun 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Bets are on you won't hear further on this one.
Rouge surely will go off on another tangent.

BTW, have you ever been to the culinary institute in Montpelier? Great cuisine at reasonable prices.
VoteVets org

Brooklyn, NY

#160954 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah VoteVets, I have a personal question. Are you a military vet? Only about 5% of all members of VoteVet.org are and I wonder why you call your organization VoteVets if most of you are not military vets?
It is my custom not to talk about my personal life because it is not pertinent.

But I have mentioned in the past on other boards that I went in as an officer because I graduated college first.

Enough Said.

As You Were!
VoteVets org

Brooklyn, NY

#160955 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And just why is Richard Dawkins an imbecile? Because he believes in creationism? And what proof do you have that Orangutans were ever in Africa? Maybe there ancestors were from Africa just like the ancestors of New World monkeys.
Typical Libtardian tactics. If you disagree with someone you make a [personal attack like calling them an imbecile. Well, if that is all the ammo you have, I think you are the imbecile!
I agree.

Nobody has all the answers including Dawkins, You, or I.

10-4 Good Buddy.
VoteVets org

Brooklyn, NY

#160956 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And just why is Richard Dawkins an imbecile? Because he believes in creationism? And what proof do you have that Orangutans were ever in Africa? Maybe there ancestors were from Africa just like the ancestors of New World monkeys.
Typical Libtardian tactics. If you disagree with someone you make a [personal attack like calling them an imbecile. Well, if that is all the ammo you have, I think you are the imbecile!
One little tweak my friend.

You have it backwards on Dawkins.

He does not believe in Creationism.

LOL

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160957 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah VoteVets, I have a personal question. Are you a military vet? Only about 5% of all members of VoteVet.org are and I wonder why you call your organization VoteVets if most of you are not military vets?
Please prove that only 5% of VoteVet.org members are veterans.

Sigh. Guess, as per all other requests for proof, I'm gonna wait a long long time.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160958 Jun 24, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Rouge surely will go off on another tangent.
BTW, have you ever been to the culinary institute in Montpelier? Great cuisine at reasonable prices.
Yes, he will, new unrelated/irrelevant theme coming right up.

No, have not, but been to the one in Essex a few years ago, it's an Inn with a cooking school attached. Sheer culinary delights in the heart of a green paradise.

We did have sandwiches in Montpelier (best ones we've ever had) in this natural food emporium right on Main Street - nearest thing to real French baguettes and Italiano Focaccia, if not better, with fresh ingredients. A pleasure. Asking wife for name - here it is - Capitol Grounds.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160960 Jun 24, 2013
IT WORKED. EUREKA.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160961 Jun 24, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Rouge surely will go off on another tangent.
BTW, have you ever been to the culinary institute in Montpelier? Great cuisine at reasonable prices.
Why? Because VoteVets implies they represent military vets when they do not! Only about 5% of their members are military vets! Do you want to guess what percentage of TEA Partiers are military vets yet they do not claim to represent military vets!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160962 Jun 24, 2013
One of the very fist TEA Party groups in Florida was started by ...... Democrats as a false flag operation. Typical Libtardian Logic, you pretend to represent a group when if fact you are the opposition.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160963 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Why? Because VoteVets implies they represent military vets when they do not! Only about 5% of their members are military vets! Do you want to guess what percentage of TEA Partiers are military vets yet they do not claim to represent military vets!!!
Er, Rogue, remember my post number 160957 of a few minutes ago? It said : "Please prove that only 5% of VoteVet.org members are veterans."

Will I have to ask often? I won't mind at all if you can prove it, will even thank you for the info, but if you can't, be a man and admit you made it up.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160964 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Why? Because VoteVets implies they represent military vets when they do not! Only about 5% of their members are military vets! Do you want to guess what percentage of TEA Partiers are military vets yet they do not claim to represent military vets!!!

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Er, Rogue, remember my post number 160957 of a few minutes ago? It said : "Please prove that only 5% of VoteVet.org members are veterans."
Will I have to ask often? I won't mind at all if you can prove it, will even thank you for the info, but if you can't, be a man and admit you made it up.
I admit that I am computer challenged but if I can do it, you can two. Ever hear of Wikipedia?

"In February 2007, a VoteVets.org spokesman told the The Washington Post that the group had 20,000 members, including 1,000 veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan'."

Okay, let's do the math. If you have 20,000 of anything but only 1,000 of them are purple while the rest are pink, what percentage is purple?

Yes, the founder is a veteran of the war in Iraq but their major goal has nothing to do with veterans but by pushing the progressive agenda!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160965 Jun 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Er, Rogue, remember my post number 160957 of a few minutes ago? It said : "Please prove that only 5% of VoteVet.org members are veterans."
Will I have to ask often? I won't mind at all if you can prove it, will even thank you for the info, but if you can't, be a man and admit you made it up.
I never make things up. By far, most of what I say, I can prove. Now the fact that I am a retired U.S. Army CW4 who flew Hueys in Vietnam from Aug. 1970 until Aug. 1971, you will just have to take my word on it.
But try and find anyone who knows what I know about aviation in general, and Army Aviation in particular!
Oh, do you know what the British and Canadians called our A-36 Apaches during WWII?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160966 Jun 24, 2013
Just in case you need a little help!

North American A-36 Apache
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_A...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160967 Jun 24, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Rational readers will notice that although LRS has CLAIMED "it is much more than speculation," LRS has not cited a single fact.
"Yep, blonde."
Not that my hair color matters, but the willingness to call a brunette a blonde is typical of birther LIARS.
It is like them saying "the Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya" (she didn't, she said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII, and she is not a blonde either) or them saying "Obama's lawyer admitted that the birth certificate was forged" (she didn't, and I admit I do not know her hair color). The governor of Hawaii (who is bald, but his beard is gray) did not say that he could not find the birth certificate either.
Blondie, I just pointed out where you were incorrect. You used the word requirment, not I. The rest of your post is gibberish.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160968 Jun 24, 2013
The Brits had a habit of changing the names on our equipment. Like the P-40 Warhawk was called a Kittyhawk by the Brits.
And instead of being a P-40 A, B, C, etc. they had mark numbers.
Even our tanks they had different names. Our M-3 Medium tank we called the General Lee but the Brits called it a General Grant! Who ever said the Brits have no humor?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Lee

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160969 Jun 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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But that is not what the United Nation says. And the UN says nothing about "economic" asylum. Only political asylum.
Just like the Geneva Accords only covers LAWFUL combatants and not illegal ones like the Taliban and al Qaeda who can be tortured and summarily executed!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T ... text>
Nonsense, and you can not prove me wrong either?
And you can not prove that the Geneva Accords protect ILLEGAL combatants either! All the Geneva Accords is establish who is, and who is not, a legal combatant and how you will treat legal combatants!

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/who/barack-obama/T...
VoteVets org wrote:
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Gen. Petraeus Warns Against Using Torture
May 11, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2gbsso
The top U.S. commander in Iraq admonished his troops regarding the results of an Army survey that found that many U.S military personnel there are willing to tolerate some torture of suspects and unwilling to report abuse by comrades.
"This fight depends on securing the population, which must understand that we -- not our enemies -- occupy the moral high ground," Army Gen. David H. Petraeus wrote in an open letter dated May 10 and posted on a military Web site.
He rejected the argument that torture is sometimes needed to quickly obtain crucial information. "Beyond the basic fact that such actions are illegal, history shows that they also are frequently neither useful nor necessary," he stated.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
And where did I say anything about AMERICAN laws? Oh, and Enhanced Interrogation is not torture!!!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160970 Jun 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So you've never "drank" (sic) a jug of urine? Why? Bathtub moonshine any better?
Wouldn't know that either. Never had moonshine during my drinking career.

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