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“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#160830 Jun 23, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
1. FDR was a socialist/communist and not an American.
2. Yes, Progressive/Liberals are against human rights.
3. Obama recognizes how powerful the Tea Party has become so he wants to terminate them.
4. You have to be loyal and put your party first over all other things. Like Mafia.
5. Woman should be barefoot and pregnant and keep the Man satisfied.
6. The corporate Rightwing Media in collusion with corporate Mainstream Media always tells the truth and informs our masses.
7. Obama is not spying on Americans. Only Bush and Cheney spied on
Americans.
8. Reagan was a holy man and never did anything wrong, just like JESUS.
9. Obama took all the Corporate Power away and banned all the thousands of lobbyist in Washington DC. Lobbyist do not even write the legislation in the Obama administration. They did write the bills with Bush and Cheney.
10. The Unions are the real power in America. They even give themselves big bonuses at taxpayers expense.
11. Yes, Intellectuals are the idiots and do not contribute to society.
12. Terry Larkin should be promoted to the ranks of General, for telling the truth about Obama being an illegal alien.
13. The United States never had a fraudulent election. That only happens in countries like Iraq.
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You are finally starting to sound like a good American Link!

Let us see if I can't help.

1. It is no big deal the dept. of homeland security needs a ridiculous number of drones, they are there to secure the homeland.

2. It is ok to give up your constitutional rights so that govt. can do their jobs.

3. Those videos on youtube did not exist and were bad for you.

4. Foreign aid takes money from the rich people in a rich country and gives it to the poor people of a poor country.

5. Sarah Jessica Parker is sexy.

6. The N.S.A. has to get warrants to spy on private citizens unless it takes too long.

7. The Obama administration's operation fast and furious was arming the Mexican drug cartels for a good reason.

8. Ollie North is above the law. Just shut up about it.

9. Guns are bad. Floride is yummy.

10. You should call your doctor about that new medicine you saw on TV.

11. You should call your lawyer about that medicine you asked your doctor about.

12. There is no child with a problem too big for ritalin to handle.

13. Polar bears can not swim.

14. Al Queda is here...around every corner. They most likely work for Ron Paul.

15. The big firey ball in the middle of our solar system has nothing to do with the temperature of the Earth.

16. A gas that plants create and animals have been exhaling for millions of years is bad for the environment.

17. The company you work for cares about you and the customer.

18. Corporations are people.

19. Of coarse it is change, if you can't see that... you are a racist.

20. More police = less crime.

21. Patriots support their govt. regardless of it's actions.

22. The Federal Reserve is a totally constitutional part of our govt. They have the best interest of the people in mind.

23. You should try and get the flu shot and at least two boosters before you get the flu.

24. There has never been a better time to invest in the stock market.

25. When asked your opinion...try and repeat what you heard on T.V.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160831 Jun 23, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Did you know that Jesse Jackson Jr. had some sort of stomach stapling procedure done in the past?
I'm not sure exactly what his problem was, other that alcohholism and bi-polar disorder, but I think he may have been victimized by some unsavory figures in the medical community.
Not that I am very familiar with him or anything of the sort, but of all the pictures I have ever seen of him he did not look obese in any way, shape or form, and therefore was never a viable candidate for that type of drastic elective surgery as a last ditch effort to lose unwanted weight.
Just an educated guess on my part.
loose
Jessie Jackson jr did not get his stomach stapled, he had it zippered, thereby making it easier for him to access his stolen money.

What exactly is your obsession with this person? So he's crooked, like so many other politicians of every known stripe. I suppose he should pay the price like any crook but the betting is he'll receive a slap on the wrist, again, not unlike "so many other politician of every known stripe".

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#160832 Jun 23, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
____ It's the "LEFT" who have suppressed the official consensus analysis reports that TOTAL VICTORY in Iraq is IMPOSSIBLE, like the PENTAGON PAPERS.
____ It's the "LEFT" who are intent on including tactical nuclear weapons in the Iran DE-NUCLEARIZATION 400+ MISSILE plan to bomb them back to the STONE AGE as first strike regardless of the probable escalation in to GLOBAL NUCLEAR World War between Muslim and Christian nations.
____ It's the "LEFT" who claim to be intent on reforming the UN but are actually devaluating and destroying it in favor of IMF, World Bank Private Equity Corporate control.
____ It's the "LEFT" who authorized SHOT TO KILL orders to paramilitary contractors and regular military in and around NOLA after Katrina in breach of POSSE COMITATUS.
____ It's the "LEFT" who made the administration present the assertion of MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, that the INSURGENCY IS IN ITS LAST THROWS and that SADDAM was involved in 9/11.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have closed veterans medical facilities and believe that PTSD is minor problem that THERAPY does nothing for.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have declared a war on drugs and gangs that has spawned a self fulfilling prison industrial complex and created more extremist groups with more members by fostering fundamentalists evangelical end of days fanaticism.
____ Clinton was definitely a LEFTY when he sign off on NAFTA that eliminated the livelihood of millions on both sides of the border via WTO multinational corporate subsidies resulting in the COYOTE trade illegal alien train of death whose alternative is starvation.
____ It's the "LEFT" who inserted the promise to increase energy independence federal financing in to the state of the union address while actually cutting that budget line item, lifted EPA protections regarding national pipeline operation and OSHA coal mine safety regulations.
____ It's the "LEFT" who have left the cost of IRAQ WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION cost off the national debt/deficit balance sheet and raided SSI funds off balance sheet accounting.
____ It's the "LEFT" who were responsible for the voter purge list in Florida and the 2004 false terror alert the Ohio election.
____ All the GENERALS opposed to the IRAQ INVASION and perpetual OCCUPATION are "LEFTIES".
____ It's the "LEFT" who came up with the thesis that a CATALYZING EVENT like PEARL HARBOR would be necessary to continue the expansion of the EMPIRE, if the US is not growing it is in jeopardy of being marginalized to oblivion .
It is the right that did all that stuff.
Where did that info come from you are using is very wrong.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160833 Jun 23, 2013
Justice LRS said:

"Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form."

"Justice LRSA said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "

THAT is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.

Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him. YOU know this and yet you deny it. That is lying.

You said: "Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with that." That implies that the official copy sent to you is legally not as good as the one that was sent to your parents, and that is a LIE.

In fact, BOTH Mitt Romney and Obama showed official copies of their birth certificates and millions of people (including me) have lost their originals. It is perfectly legal to use a replacement copy of your birth certificate and it is just as legal as the one that was sent to your family. And, in fact, even if you have the one that was sent, you have every right to get a more recent official copy and use that---for convenience or because you think it looks clearer or for any reason at all.

You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."

That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.

You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."

And yet you know that the long form image that the White House put online says CERTIFICATE of birth on it and that the officials in Hawaii say that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has shown (and that includes the word "certificate") are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, so he has indeed shown a CERTIFICATE.

And by saying "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth" you have implied that a CERTIFICATION is legally not as good as a CERTIFIATE,which is also not true. And, duh, Obama showed BOTH of them, and in fact he showed both the images of them and the physical copies with the seal on them to the press and one reporter stated that she felt the seal.

You said: "Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form. "

And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and saw that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files and that there is an original and that they copied the original to make the official long-form copy is A LIE.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160834 Jun 23, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Justice LRS said:
"Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form."
"Justice LRSA said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "
THAT is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.
Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him. YOU know this and yet you deny it. That is lying.
You said: "Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with that." That implies that the official copy sent to you is legally not as good as the one that was sent to your parents, and that is a LIE.
In fact, BOTH Mitt Romney and Obama showed official copies of their birth certificates and millions of people (including me) have lost their originals. It is perfectly legal to use a replacement copy of your birth certificate and it is just as legal as the one that was sent to your family. And, in fact, even if you have the one that was sent, you have every right to get a more recent official copy and use that---for convenience or because you think it looks clearer or for any reason at all.
You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."
That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.
You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."
And yet you know that the long form image that the White House put online says CERTIFICATE of birth on it and that the officials in Hawaii say that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has shown (and that includes the word "certificate") are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, so he has indeed shown a CERTIFICATE.
And by saying "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth" you have implied that a CERTIFICATION is legally not as good as a CERTIFIATE,which is also not true. And, duh, Obama showed BOTH of them, and in fact he showed both the images of them and the physical copies with the seal on them to the press and one reporter stated that she felt the seal.
You said: "Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form. "
And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and saw that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files and that there is an original and that they copied the original to make the official long-form copy is A LIE.
First, who is LRSA? Second, I did not see the word requirement in my post. Third, you're a blonde, aren't ya?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160835 Jun 23, 2013
We do not negotiate with terrorists and this is why!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/taliban-k...

Let the sobs kill themselves off.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160836 Jun 23, 2013
Gum Flappers = Obumbler Apologists/Excuse Makers
wojar

Rocky Hill, CT

#160837 Jun 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
First, who is LRSA? Second, I did not see the word requirement in my post. Third, you're a blonde, aren't ya?
Logic is the art of inference and prediction. It is evident that Mr. Liars does not comprehend inference as his rants clearly indicate necessity, in his mind, which would be a requirement. This is evident to anyone above middle school mentality.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#160838 Jun 23, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Justice LRS said:
"Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form."
"Justice LRSA said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "
THAT is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.

You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."
That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.
You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."
And yet you know that the long form image that the White House put online says CERTIFICATE of birth on it and that the officials in Hawaii say that ALL the facts on the image that the White House has shown (and that includes the word "certificate") are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, so he has indeed shown a CERTIFICATE.
And by saying "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth" you have implied that a CERTIFICATION is legally not as good as a CERTIFIATE,which is also not true. And, duh, Obama showed BOTH of them, and in fact he showed both the images of them and the physical copies with the seal on them to the press and one reporter stated that she felt the seal.
You said: "Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form. "
And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and saw that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files and that there is an original and that they copied the original to make the official long-form copy is A LIE.
If Barack Hussein Obama were born on the steps of The White House, I still wouldn't vote for him and he would still be the worst resident of The White House since television was invented. No matter what you think,he is still the son of a Kenyan citizen. His father was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day. Obama's father was never an immigrant to the United States,never had allegiance to the United States and was not a descendent of pre-Civil War slavery in the United States. Barack Obama has deceived you from the very beginning. Every time he relates himself to the struggle of pre Civil War citizens he is lying.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160839 Jun 23, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>If Barack Hussein Obama were born on the steps of The White House, I still wouldn't vote for him and he would still be the worst resident of The White House since television was invented. No matter what you think,he is still the son of a Kenyan citizen. His father was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day. Obama's father was never an immigrant to the United States,never had allegiance to the United States and was not a descendent of pre-Civil War slavery in the United States. Barack Obama has deceived you from the very beginning. Every time he relates himself to the struggle of pre Civil War citizens he is lying.
Ah, sanity and commone sense are such a refreshing thing! Every bit of it is true. To be fooled by this con-man is a sure sign of stupidity. Kudos to ya Frank!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#160840 Jun 23, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Justice LRS said:
"Show me the post where I said it was required. Obumbler has document created in cyberspace. It never had a paper form."
"Justice LRSA said: " See, if Obumbler had his original it would be proof. "
THAT is saying that the original copy that was sent to your family (and even that is a COPY; the original is always in the DOH files) is better proof than an official copy, and that is a LIE. The official copy sent to you by a state is legally just as good as the one that was sent to your parents.
Obama has shown both his short form birth certificate and his long form birth certificate and the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent both of them to Obama and that all the facts on the published copies are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him. YOU know this and yet you deny it. That is lying.
You said: "Yep. He LOST it along with ALL his other important docs. Right! I bet Midway Barkers have a field day with that." That implies that the official copy sent to you is legally not as good as the one that was sent to your parents, and that is a LIE.
In fact, BOTH Mitt Romney and Obama showed official copies of their birth certificates and millions of people (including me) have lost their originals. It is perfectly legal to use a replacement copy of your birth certificate and it is just as legal as the one that was sent to your family. And, in fact, even if you have the one that was sent, you have every right to get a more recent official copy and use that---for convenience or because you think it looks clearer or for any reason at all.
You said: "Fraid not. His original (like there is one) would say CERTIFICATE on it..."
That is what you said after being informed that the original does exist, in the files in Hawaii where it supposed to be (and the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated so), and that in fact the original does say CERTIFICATE on it. And you were also told that the long form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2001 is in fact a photocopy of the original in the files onto security paper and that in fact it does say CERTIFICATE on it. And so THAT is a lie too.
You said: "The fact remains he did not show a certificate of birth."
...
And yet the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files in Hawaii and saw that the original is there and that they copied that original onto security paper to make the official long term birth certificate. To say that "it never had a paper form" despite knowing that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they looked into the files and that there is an original and that they copied the original to make the official long-form copy is A LIE.
CUT some of yours for space.
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SUNDAY, JUNE 23, 2013
Ever since Obama burst onto the national scene, claiming to have been born and raised in Hawaii, people have questioned his story. Rather than responding to those questions by allowing people to see his original long-form birth certificate, a step that would have instantly set those rumors to rest, Obama has refused to release any original documents pre-dating his election to the U.S. Senate. He’s kept everything – his original birth certificate, his school records, his college applications, his financial aid requests (if any), his Illinois State senate documents, and just about any other paper trail – under wraps.

Yahoo News Posts Obama’s Country of Birth Is Kenya... By Accident?
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160842 Jun 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
We do not negotiate with terrorists and this is why!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/taliban-k...
Let the sobs kill themselves off.
I see your comprehension of simple English has not improved during my absence. Yet, I've been urging your for a long time now to take remedial elementary English classes with Siouxcity. Nothing doing, you prefer to wallow in your ignorance and just plain boorishness. Do you not comprehend because it is well-written Washington prose and you're better accustomed to The Globe, Wnd.com or the National Enquirer's stilted and overly-twisted sensationalist trash?

I quote from your referenced Washington Post story : "killing 9 foreign climbers including a U.S. citizen" . And your response, as brilliant as ever is : "Let the sobs kill themselves off"?.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#160843 Jun 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, sanity and commone sense are such a refreshing thing! Every bit of it is true. To be fooled by this con-man is a sure sign of stupidity. Kudos to ya Frank!
Yes, as refreshing as a jug of warm urine.

Every bit of it is true except to 209 courts of law, 535 congresspersons, 50 governors, 9 supreme court justices, why, even ALL of senior Republican brass including GWB, Cheney, Grove, Rumsfeld, Romney, Ryan, Rice, etc. Yet, you haters continue your rant, calling all of it "refreshing" and "every bit of it is true".

Yes, kudos to you, Frank, you're a breath of fresh birther air LMAO (LRS tm reg'd.)
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160844 Jun 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
First, who is LRSA? Second, I did not see the word requirement in my post. Third, you're a blonde, aren't ya?
LRSA is a typo (I'm always polite). But if you like you can read it: "LRS ASSHOLE."

What word requirement?

Re Blonde. Answer, not that it matters, but no.

Rational people will notice that LRS (or LRSA) did not respond to the facts but attempted to convince people on the basis of speculation about my hair color.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#160845 Jun 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I see your comprehension of simple English has not improved during my absence. Yet, I've been urging your for a long time now to take remedial elementary English classes with Siouxcity. Nothing doing, you prefer to wallow in your ignorance and just plain boorishness. Do you not comprehend because it is well-written Washington prose and you're better accustomed to The Globe, Wnd.com or the National Enquirer's stilted and overly-twisted sensationalist trash?
I quote from your referenced Washington Post story : "killing 9 foreign climbers including a U.S. citizen" . And your response, as brilliant as ever is : "Let the sobs kill themselves off"?.
If the United States would stay out of the affairs of other countries and concentrate on the defense of our soil then civil unrest in the middle east would not so offensive. It doesn't help that Obama always takes the wrong side on every issue.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160846 Jun 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
CUT some of yours for space.
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SUNDAY, JUNE 23, 2013
Ever since Obama burst onto the national scene, claiming to have been born and raised in Hawaii, people have questioned his story. Rather than responding to those questions by allowing people to see his original long-form birth certificate, a step that would have instantly set those rumors to rest, Obama has refused to release any original documents pre-dating his election to the U.S. Senate. He’s kept everything – his original birth certificate, his school records, his college applications, his financial aid requests (if any), his Illinois State senate documents, and just about any other paper trail – under wraps.
Yahoo News Posts Obama’s Country of Birth Is Kenya... By Accident?
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
Re: "Ever since Obama burst onto the national scene, claiming to have been born and raised in Hawaii, people have questioned his story. Rather than responding to those questions by allowing people to see his original long-form birth certificate, a step that would have instantly set those rumors to rest, Obama has refused to release any original documents pre-dating his election to the U.S. Senate."

Answer: As you know, the original is and always will be in the files in Hawaii, just as the original is and always will be in the files of the DOH in any state. Birthers and whomever wrote that needs to know that the legal document is the official COPY and that Obama has two of them, short form and long form, and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him and that ALL the facts on the published copies are exactly the same, repeat EXACTLY the same, as on what they sent to him.

Re: "Yahoo News Posts Obama’s Country of Birth Is Kenya... By Accident?"

The answer to the question is YES.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160847 Jun 23, 2013
Re: "Yahoo News Posts Obama’s Country of Birth Is Kenya... By Accident?"

The answer to the question is YES.

And now, since I have answered your question, why not try to answer mine:

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160848 Jun 23, 2013
Re: "He’s kept everything – his original birth certificate, his school records, his college applications, his financial aid requests...under wraps.

That's because,duh, Mitt Romney and John McCain and ALL other presidents and presidential candidates did not show those documents EITHER.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#160849 Jun 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, as refreshing as a jug of warm urine.
Every bit of it is true except to 209 courts of law, 535 congresspersons, 50 governors, 9 supreme court justices, why, even ALL of senior Republican brass including GWB, Cheney, Grove, Rumsfeld, Romney, Ryan, Rice, etc. Yet, you haters continue your rant, calling all of it "refreshing" and "every bit of it is true".
Yes, kudos to you, Frank, you're a breath of fresh birther air LMAO (LRS tm reg'd.)
If we are to believe Obama's own words written in his two autobiographies then we must believe that he is not fit to serve the office of POTUS. Obama claimed to have had his own birth certificate in his hand in the early 1980's. Obama also claimed to have lived in Indonesia in his youth and felt that Muslim prayer was the most beautiful sound on Earth. Two chapters in his first biography were dedicated to how much he hated our country and how much he wanted to destroy it,yet tens of millions of people who claimed to have read it still voted for him in 2008.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160850 Jun 23, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
Generals Speak Out Against Rumsfeld
DoD Determines US Foreign Policy, PERIOD!!! Congress is SUPERFLUOUS!!! The only thing to FEAR, is NOT ENOUGH FEAR.
"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste.
"My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions -- or bury the results."
-- Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold.
"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs.
"We grow up in a culture where accountability, learning to accept responsibility, admitting mistakes and learning from them was critical to us. When we don't see that happening it worries us. Poor military judgment has been used throughout this mission."
-- Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former chief of U.S. Central Command.
"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him.... I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack.
"He has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq.... Mr. Rumsfeld must step down."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.
Perfect security is Not attainable at any price!!!
STAR WARS & other MISSILE DEFENSE for a Trillion Dollars may stop 8 atomic war heads, but 2 will still hit their mark.
What can be achieved besides mutually assured destruction, is BANKRUPTING the US TREASURY.
-- Retired Army General Wesley K. Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
You do know Rummy left over six years ago, don't you? And Robert Gates was not much better either! And I thought Pennetta did a rather good job!!!

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