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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160885 Jun 23, 2013
Re: "the fabricated stamp on Obama’s Selecive Service certificate are due in 4 days, on June 27th..."

I can tell you the answer to whether or not that stamp was forged right now. It WAS forged. You do not have to wait for the Postmaster General.

However, duh, Obama did NOT post his Selective Service card, nor did any Obama representative. A guy posted it, claiming to have gotten it from the Selective Service Administration (not from Obama or any representative of Obama). So, who forged it?

Who do you think???

The guy who posted it, of course.
wojar

United States

#160886 Jun 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the beauty of faith. You can believe or not believe. Now I believe that much of the early Old Testament is allegorical (look up the definition).
Do I "believe" that there was a world wide flood? NO! But I do believe that the Black "Lake" flooded at the end of the last Great Ice Age when the Mediterranean broke through Bosphorus and flooded it with seawater and turned it into the Black Sea and this is the origins of the story. Back then they thought that that was the whole Earth and it probably was ... to them.
And they also believed they were descended from a single physically immortal mating pair who sinned thereby introducing death into the world. A fable. Then why do we have to be 'saved'? The whole ransom schtick goes down the tubes.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160887 Jun 23, 2013
Re: "
South Carolina Congressman Jeff Duncan agrees that Congress should look into this important matter.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/congressman -... "

Answer: Apparently he is the only one. That notion is not shared by Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachman, Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee or the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona (who asked Hawaii to confirm the facts on Obama's birth certificate, and, when it did, accepted that confirmation as a fact). Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review all laugh at birthers.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#160888 Jun 23, 2013
$#_#@$)(*&Q@*T^R%

BO = Birth ownership (of the presidency, based on the both in US, and not in a foreign country)
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#160889 Jun 23, 2013
Donald Trump was here with family a few days ago.

Trump wants to build a fancy hotel here.

One wonders if he saw hot-dog vendors when he visited the near location area where the hotel was supposed to be constructed and asked some vendors if they thought Obama had no real BO?

(BO is Birth ownership (of the presidency, based on the birth in US, and not in a foreign country.)

Is it good or bad, that he builds one here and not in US?

After all, there is the high density of hotel concentration in this town, you bet they the hot-dog vendors know why that is so, only upon people wanting to know by buying hot dogs and shoot them with the questions to get answers.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#160890 Jun 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You post quotes from a third party and you tell me to carry on a "decent debate"? Are you kidding. You maybe contributed max 5 words to the above post.
And, I don't care about covenant, Exodus and chronology. You have sex with your mom or dad or sister or half-sister, you are committing an incestuous act. And, the medical consequences are well known, physical and intellectual infirmities to name just two. Were the latter two not a consequence of incest BEFORE it was declared verboten? If God is God, could he have not found a better way than incest to populate the earth? How'd he make Adam and Eve? Why did He just not continue thus?
Just like God tested Job… and Peter… and even His own Son.

God asked Abraham to take what he treasured most,“your only son, yes, Isaac, who you love so much-“[3] out into the bleak wilderness of Moriah[4]. There Abraham would be required to “offer him up” in absolute dedication to the LORD.

I squirm in my seat as I read those words.

How could God ask that of one He called a friend?

Why would He?

Yet Abraham, father of our faith, didn’t ask those questions. He just went.

Setting off as the sun was rising over the desert, Abraham saddled his donkey, hoisting his young son on it’s back along with a bundle of wood for the sacrificial offering. All the boy knew was that he was on an adventure with his father and a couple of servants.

A strange entourage trekking across that barren land.

Three days into the journey, Abraham spotted way off in the distance that place where all his dreams would die.

And still he went.

When his little boy asked,“Father where is the lamb for the sacrifice?” Abraham must have choked on his answer.“God will yirah, my son.”[5]

Can’t you see them?

Father and son walking together towards death.

How God must have loved His friend in that moment. Did tears spill from the Father’s eyes as He watched the determined steps of a father willing to let his own son— his only son, die just because God said so?

At the last moment, God caught Abraham’s hand in His and provided a ram caught in the thicket to sacrifice in his son’s stead.

Can you imagine the worship that went on there on that mountain? Father and son, arms wrapped around each other in heart-pumping relief. Weeping, laughing, hollering, as shouts echoed off barren cliffs.

There was nothing tame about Abraham’s faith!

http://www.hespeaksinthesilence.com/2011/05/y...

He has 'tested' you ...
-n-
you have FAILED!

just like the pResident FAILS d-a-i-l-y ...!!!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160891 Jun 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, as refreshing as a jug of warm urine.
Every bit of it is true except to 209 courts of law, 535 congresspersons, 50 governors, 9 supreme court justices, why, even ALL of senior Republican brass including GWB, Cheney, Grove, Rumsfeld, Romney, Ryan, Rice, etc. Yet, you haters continue your rant, calling all of it "refreshing" and "every bit of it is true".
Yes, kudos to you, Frank, you're a breath of fresh birther air LMAO (LRS tm reg'd.)
I've never drank a jug of warm urine, I'll take your word for it.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160892 Jun 23, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
LRSA is a typo (I'm always polite). But if you like you can read it: "LRS ASSHOLE."
What word requirement?
Re Blonde. Answer, not that it matters, but no.
Rational people will notice that LRS (or LRSA) did not respond to the facts but attempted to convince people on the basis of speculation about my hair color.
Oh, rest assured my dear, it's much more than speculation! BTW, you wrote, "what word requirement?", you're the one that first mentioned the word. Yep, blonde.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160893 Jun 23, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>If the United States would stay out of the affairs of other countries and concentrate on the defense of our soil then civil unrest in the middle east would not so offensive. It doesn't help that Obama always takes the wrong side on every issue.
Not to mention he hasn't a clue how to deal with any of the issues!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#160894 Jun 23, 2013
Obama’s Eligibility Attorney Behind Illegal IRS Targeting
https://usjf.net/2013/06/obamas-eligibility-a...

mavie
2 days ago
This all started back in 2008 when Obama’s eligibility was not seriously questioned, much less investigated to the fullest. There has been so much evidence of his > ineligibility < that it stuns me to just think that no one in Congress or the Justice Department had the guts to push for a thorough investigation before he was even put on the ballot. To have allowed him to be a presidential candidate without verifying his eligibility is truly a lack of responsibility and dereliction of duty on the part of all concerned. I truly believe that Congress and the Justice Department, along with those entrusted with upholding our voting laws are to blame and should be held accountable.

I say get this eligibility question settled first, and then invalidate everything Obama has shoved down our throats. After that, press charges accordingly. Had this issue been settled in 2008, we would not be on the verge of losing our country and what it has been for over 230 years.

How can one person in less than five (5) years destroy our 230+ year old country?? America has to wake up and get off the complacency stage and back into the “fight for our country” stage. Go back and read our history to find out the “how and why” our country was founded. At the same time, you will understand why our Constitution and Bill of Rights are written as they are. Our Founders knew from experience what a tyrannical government was capable of doing. God Bless America and may all our enemies, both foreign and domestic, be brought to justice.
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A~M~E~N
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Rachel Maddow Goes Bonkers Over Birthers
I love to see liberals lose it ...
June 19, 2013 @ NewsEditor

https://usjf.net/2013/06/rachel-maddow-goes-b...

John
4 days ago
How much does this idiot woman make covering up for her masters in this corrupt government? Does anyone really take her seriously? What a total JOKE she is...

Lisa Smith
4 days ago
Poor Rachel. She doesn't even know she was born a man!

Elleryqueen
4 days ago
Speaking of birth. This broad wasn't born. She was issued.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160895 Jun 23, 2013
JBH wrote:
Donald Trump was here with family a few days ago.
Trump wants to build a fancy hotel here.
One wonders if he saw hot-dog vendors when he visited the near location area where the hotel was supposed to be constructed and asked some vendors if they thought Obama had no real BO?
(BO is Birth ownership (of the presidency, based on the birth in US, and not in a foreign country.)
Is it good or bad, that he builds one here and not in US?
After all, there is the high density of hotel concentration in this town, you bet they the hot-dog vendors know why that is so, only upon people wanting to know by buying hot dogs and shoot them with the questions to get answers.
I think The Donald has built outside the U.S. before so why not there?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160896 Jun 23, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer: However, he was elected on November 6, 2012, confirmed by the US Congress and sworn in (several times) by that RINO, the Cief Justice of the USA. And, unless someone does something brutal and stupid (and Joe Biden would become president), he will be president until January of 2017. Get used to it.
Something stupid and brutal? Like standing up for what the law SAYS? The law as written says he is not eligible to EVEN run. The DSDems didn't properly vett their own candidate! Or maybe they did? Hmmm? No wonder the gov. has been stocking up on ammo. Say Blondie, is your husband's name Dagwood?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160897 Jun 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
Obama’s Eligibility Attorney Behind Illegal IRS Targeting
https://usjf.net/2013/06/obamas-eligibility-a...
And do you know who Bob Bauer's wife is? Anita Dunn!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Dunn
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160898 Jun 23, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You post quotes from a third party and you tell me to carry on a "decent debate"? Are you kidding. You maybe contributed max 5 words to the above post.
And, I don't care about covenant, Exodus and chronology. You have sex with your mom or dad or sister or half-sister, you are committing an incestuous act. And, the medical consequences are well known, physical and intellectual infirmities to name just two. Were the latter two not a consequence of incest BEFORE it was declared verboten? If God is God, could he have not found a better way than incest to populate the earth? How'd he make Adam and Eve? Why did He just not continue thus?
Well, now we know what happened to you.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160899 Jun 23, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "the fabricated stamp on Obama’s Selecive Service certificate are due in 4 days, on June 27th..."
I can tell you the answer to whether or not that stamp was forged right now. It WAS forged. You do not have to wait for the Postmaster General.
However, duh, Obama did NOT post his Selective Service card, nor did any Obama representative. A guy posted it, claiming to have gotten it from the Selective Service Administration (not from Obama or any representative of Obama). So, who forged it?
Who do you think???
The guy who posted it, of course.
Quit making excuses for the usurper!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160902 Jun 23, 2013
The Newest US Navy Warship - Can't Afford To Go To Sea~!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160904 Jun 23, 2013

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#160905 Jun 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
CUT because of 'your' PROFANITY!
Do NOT want it in with MY comment!
``````````
Q & A WITH SCRUTINY
Headline:
Arm the homeless!
I Belong To:
my wife.
When I'm Not on Topix:
I work.
I'm Listening To:
Christopher Hitchens <<--<<<-------- --<<<
Read This Book:
There was a crooked man
Favorite Things:
Black Holes and String theory
On My Mind:
The stupidity of intelligent design.
I Believe In:
The elegant simplicity of the cosmos.
http://www.topix.com/member/profile/scrutiny
Christopher Hitchens’ lies do atheism no favors
I'm also an atheist and believe the religious right is a problem. But so is Hitchens' intellectual dishonesty
BY CURTIS WHITE
SUNDAY, JUN 23, 2013 07:00 AM EDT
...
Hitchens’s “God Is Not Great” is an intellectually shameful book.
To be intellectually shameful is to be dishonest, to tell less than you know, or ought to know, and to shape what you present in a way that misrepresents the real state of affairs.
In this sense, and in Hitchens’s own term, his book lacks “decency.”(You may think that I lack decency for attacking a man so recently deceased, but I do no more than what Hitchens himself did. Speaking of Jerry Falwell, Hitchens pointedly refuses a “compassionate word” for this “departed fraud.”)
...
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/23/christopher_h...
But that's book reviewing for you, and No One Left To Lie To demands that those leftish British readers who respond to the ugly spectacle of the Third Way in power with passive uncertainty are prodded to buy this record of the consequences of Clintonism.
Hitchens's theme is that bewildered (and bewildering) remnants of progressive opinion in America have sacrificed their honour and the livelihoods of the American poor in defence of a 'crooked President and a corrupt and reactionary administration' merely because Bill Clinton found it easier to advance to office by calling himself a Democrat rather than a Republican.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/1999/ma...
You ARE a 'weak minded' individual for using SUCH language! imo
And you are entitled to your opinion. IMO...that is exactly the case where that phrase is needed most.

Also interesting is that you found three little words I wrote to be profane while discussing a man who was going to gut his child.

I was lucky enough to be able to call Christopher my friend.(for a short period of time)

So, before you go off cutting and pasting the first negative write up you can find about him...the man was a lot of things, a liar was not among them. He didn't have to lie.

I am 99% sure you have never read, watched, or listened to the man.

But if you can come up with a case where Christopher knowingly lied, I would be interested. As would a lot of his readers.

Even Hitchens' most determined detractors stood in awe of his intellectual strength and absolute command of the English language.

Here is why I think you are "weak minded"...

I have never seen you come up with an independent thought. It is always the same. A quick clipping of what someone else thinks or wrote. That confirms, for sure...a notion another person you heard had...you are sure you agree because, that is what media that you think is relevant to you said. Pump out an "our father" and call it a day.

Despite this, I do find you intelligent and good spirited. I would like to hear more of what you have to say and less of the supporting banter.

Who knows? You may find that you like yourself more than hacks who could call into question Christopher Hitchens' intellectual anything.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#160906 Jun 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
CUT because of 'your' PROFANITY!
Do NOT want it in with MY comment!
``````````
Q & A WITH SCRUTINY
Headline:
Arm the homeless!
I Belong To:
my wife.
When I'm Not on Topix:
I work.
I'm Listening To:
Christopher Hitchens <<--<<<-------- --<<<
Read This Book:
There was a crooked man
Favorite Things:
Black Holes and String theory
On My Mind:
The stupidity of intelligent design.
I Believe In:
The elegant simplicity of the cosmos.
http://www.topix.com/member/profile/scrutiny
Christopher Hitchens’ lies do atheism no favors
I'm also an atheist and believe the religious right is a problem. But so is Hitchens' intellectual dishonesty
BY CURTIS WHITE
SUNDAY, JUN 23, 2013 07:00 AM EDT
...
Hitchens’s “God Is Not Great” is an intellectually shameful book.
To be intellectually shameful is to be dishonest, to tell less than you know, or ought to know, and to shape what you present in a way that misrepresents the real state of affairs.
In this sense, and in Hitchens’s own term, his book lacks “decency.”(You may think that I lack decency for attacking a man so recently deceased, but I do no more than what Hitchens himself did. Speaking of Jerry Falwell, Hitchens pointedly refuses a “compassionate word” for this “departed fraud.”)
...
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/23/christopher_h...
But that's book reviewing for you, and No One Left To Lie To demands that those leftish British readers who respond to the ugly spectacle of the Third Way in power with passive uncertainty are ....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/1999/ma...
You ARE a 'weak minded' individual for using SUCH language! imo
And you are entitled to your opinion. IMO...that is exactly the case where that phrase is needed most.

Also interesting is that you found three little words I wrote to be profane while discussing a man who was going to gut his child.

I was lucky enough to be able to call Christopher my friend.(for a short period of time)

So, before you go off cutting and pasting the first negative write up you can find about him...the man was a lot of things, a liar was not among them. He didn't have to lie.

I am 99% sure you have never read, watched, or listened to the man.

But if you can come up with a case where Christopher knowingly lied, I would be interested. As would a lot of his readers.

Even Hitchens' most determined detractors stood in awe of his intellectual strength and absolute command of the English language.

Here is why I think you are "weak minded"...

I have never seen you come up with an independent thought. It is always the same. A quick clipping of what someone else thinks or wrote. That confirms, for sure...a notion another person you heard had...you are sure you agree because, that is what media that you think is relevant to you said. Pump out an "our father" and call it a day.

Despite this, I do find you intelligent and good spirited. I would like to hear more of what you have to say and less of the supporting banter.

Who knows? You may find that you like yourself more than hacks who could call into question Christopher Hitchens' intellectual anything.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#160907 Jun 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
10
Like my answer here, you need to keep the chronology right. There is no levitical law at the time of Abraham.
Thus, even if he did marry his sister, remember that he was breaking no covenantal restriction on doing so. As I said in that answer, you don't convict someone of a crime ex post facto.
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questio...
There is a third option -
The prohibition on incest didn't come about until the covenant in Leviticus & Deuteronomy, and to accuse Cain, Abel, and Seth of incest is to accuse them ex post facto.
As an aside, a Young Earth Creationist would date the Creation to 4004 BC, and the Exodus (and hence the Covenant) to about 1440BC. As such, you would be accusing them of a crime that wasn't mandated for nearly 2600 years.
If you want to say, "but surely the law goes back further than the covenant," you get into territory of, "So when did it become a law?"
Incest is prohibited in most secular cultures today because it weakens the gene pool.
Over time, the level of closeness has gotten wider in order to ensure a wider mixing. In modern times, a first or second cousin is off-limits. If I remember correctly in Leviticus, immediate family was prohibited, but I believe that cousins were ok. If you follow the trajectory backwards, you'd probably arrive at a date at which it was ok even for family members to procreate together, societally speaking.
And, a fourth option -
Finally, Genesis 6:1-4 mentions the "Nephilim" - potentially an alternate breeding stock.
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questio...
LEARN you "biblical history"
AND
your World history!
you might be ABLE to carry on a 'decent' debate THEN!
)8~D>
Using this logic. Cain broke no law murdering Abel.
You don't need a law to know inbreeding is against nature. The results are often immediately apparent.

World history doesn't have anything to say of young earth creationism or Nephilim for that matter.

Isn't the very reason for christianity and the Jesus story all about "original sin"?

But let us not convict anyone ex post facto...that would be barbaric.

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