BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160639 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Why did Obumbler post a "certification" of live birth instead of a Certificate of Live Birth? Only a Certificate of Live Birth is accepted as an original birth certificate. Not a "certification" of live birth. Hawaii no longer issues a "Certificate of Live Birth", only a "certification" of live birth. So, if Obumbler was born in Hawaii in 1961 he should have a "Certificate" of Live Birth. But he doesn't. Why? Did the original get lost? Or perhaps, he was adopted and issued an amended birth certificate?
Yes, duh, Obama's family lost the original that was sent to them back in 1961---like millions upon millions of people lose the birth certificate that was sent to their families. So Obama, like millions of others, had to get a copy. And when he did so in 2007, Hawaii sent him the short-form birth certificate, the CertifiCATION of live birth, which is the current official birth certificate of Hawaii. His campaign posted it because that is what Hawaii sent.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160641 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Yes, duh, Obama's family lost the original that was sent to them back in 1961---like millions upon millions of people lose the birth certificate that was sent to their families. So Obama, like millions of others, had to get a copy. And when he did so in 2007, Hawaii sent him the short-form birth certificate, the CertifiCATION of live birth, which is the current official birth certificate of Hawaii. His campaign posted it because that is what Hawaii sent.
So, no original birth certificate was ever posted. Lost huh? Man, the list of excuses is getting very, very long! I think he was issued an amended BC and never had an original.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160642 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>What wasn't very bright was putting a PDF file on the net as his BC, thinking no one will notice! Can you say STUPID? Are you getting a clue yet as to how dumb this admin is? And the lil butt-sore loser runs off like a scalded azz ape! It's said he could be heard yelling.....but wait, I'll buy you a drink! LMAO!
Still stuck on stupid huh romper? Yes. You ran and hid for a week. We all noticed a drop off in our laughter
Learn to Read

Columbus, IN

#160643 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>You really can't learn shyt, can you?
Poor puss boi. Gonna rant some more pathetic empty threats for us?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160644 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
So, no original birth certificate was ever posted. Lost huh? Man, the list of excuses is getting very, very long! I think he was issued an amended BC and never had an original.
Answer: Who cares what you think.

Yes, people do lose their original birth certificates, and in fact the birth certificate that Mitt Romney posted, a short-form birth certificate, was a recent official copy and not a copy of what was sent to his family.

In both cases, Romney and Obama, the original is in the files and cannot be sent to anyone. Both men were sent official COPIES, and that is what they posted. Obama first posted his birth certificate way back in June 2008, long before the election of that year. He posted the long form copy in 2011. The officials in Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the copies to Obama and that the facts on the long-form published by the White House are exactly the same as on what they sent to him.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160645 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Poor puss boi. Gonna rant some more pathetic empty threats for us?
Another typical troll post from Mr. Kurly Q. Kerplunk! Watch it folks, he is dilated!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160646 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer: Who cares what you think.
Yes, people do lose their original birth certificates, and in fact the birth certificate that Mitt Romney posted, a short-form birth certificate, was a recent official copy and not a copy of what was sent to his family.
In both cases, Romney and Obama, the original is in the files and cannot be sent to anyone. Both men were sent official COPIES, and that is what they posted. Obama first posted his birth certificate way back in June 2008, long before the election of that year. He posted the long form copy in 2011. The officials in Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the copies to Obama and that the facts on the long-form published by the White House are exactly the same as on what they sent to him.
Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160647 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Another typical troll post from Mr. Kurly Q. Kerplunk! Watch it folks, he is dilated!
Poor Romper. Still can't comprehend English.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160648 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Since he received a copy of each your fable is even more pathetic than usual
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160649 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Answer: The original IS on file, and the official copy of it is the short form Certification of Live Birth---that is what Hawaii has been sending to everyone since it became the official birth certificate back in 2001.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160650 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Since he received a copy of each your fable is even more pathetic than usual
As usual, you're incorrect. You haven't comprehended any part of this conversation! All you add are your troll remarks. You remind me of the difference between a puppy and a ND fan. Eventually, the puppy quits whining!
T kiergen

Venice, FL

#160651 Jun 21, 2013
What I'd like to know is 2 part:
1 Why, if he was born in the US was he known as "The Senator From Kenya" in 2004
2 With all these lawsuits challenging his birth.. Why has he not just plunked the real certificate down on the counter in front of a Judge instead of costing himself (and us taxpayers)literally millions of dollars fighting said suits? Seems to me that 35 or 50 bucks for a certified copy of the original would be a lot cheaper all the way around..... To date there is not one judge who has seen it.. It's been fought every time.. why?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160652 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
Poor Birfoons. Another Oily appeal dismissed ....
http://ia601700.us.archive.org/12/items/gov.u...
The failures just build one after the other
Yeah, but Zollo the Clown promises, "any day now."
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160653 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>As usual, you're incorrect. You haven't comprehended any part of this conversation! All you add are your troll remarks. You remind me of the difference between a puppy and a ND fan. Eventually, the puppy quits whining!
You are still wrong. About everything (and Rouge declares himself to be Romper's Siamese twin in 3 ... 2 ...)
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160654 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer: The original IS on file, and the official copy of it is the short form Certification of Live Birth---that is what Hawaii has been sending to everyone since it became the official birth certificate back in 2001.
You are either missing or ignoring the point. When Obumbler was born ('61) he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth, not a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth, like they do now. He was sent a copy of what they had on file, a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth but not a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (which, had he been born in Hawaii in '61, he would have on record). They only issue CERTIFICATIONS now! That was not the case when he was supposedly born in Hawaii. At that time, he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth and a copy of that would have been sent to him but it wasn't. Why? Oh, I forgot the hospital lost it. Dang! LMAO!

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#160655 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: The original is in the files, where it is supposed to be and where it always will stay. Hawaii, like all the other states, does not send out the originals. It sends out official copies on security paper. That is what Hawaii sent to Obama twice, first the official COLB, the short form, and then the long form, which is a photocopy onto security paper of the original in the files. And that is what the officials in Hawaii have said that they sent to Obama, both times, and officials of BOTH parties said so, and they have also repeatedly confirmed that the FACTS on the birth certificate that the White House has shown are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
Ellen1
No matter what you tell a birther they will only believe in mental unbalanced nuts like Joseph Farah , Jerome Corsi , Alex Jones.
Who spew this B.S they think there was a vast conspiricay to elect Obama president.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160656 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, but Zollo the Clown promises, "any day now."
I guess I missed your answer, so I'll assume you agree that a great flood could have been the cause of a bottleneck.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160657 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're an idiot! A copy of his original BC is what we're waiting on. Do you think they're going to send you an old "copy"? The only one with a comprehension problem is you. Farnsworth, you might be able to figure it out if you look at Pop's post again. Then again, maybe not! Watch it everyone, Mr. Kerplunk is dilated! Still acting like a butt-sore loser cause I made you cry, huh? Don't worry, be happy! LMAO! Would you be interested in some beautiful river front property on the mighty Red River????? LMAO! DS
Two certified copies of the original vital record were provided by HDoH to President Obama. They included the signatures of both the attending physician, the mother who was in the hospital, and the local registrar. Apparently birfoons demand a photocopy of the particular copy that was issued to Obama's mommy, rather than a certified copy of the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD from which momma's copy was made. Apparently in Birfoon World, if they cannot see a copy reproduced from momma's copy, then there can be no proof.

LMAO. Please take your meds.
Learn to Read wrote:
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And Romper again fails basic English comprehension. "We keep the original on file" requires that ANYONE requesting their BC be issued a new copy.
Duh
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160658 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Two certified copies of the original vital record were provided by HDoH to President Obama. They included the signatures of both the attending physician, the mother who was in the hospital, and the local registrar. Apparently birfoons demand a photocopy of the particular copy that was issued to Obama's mommy, rather than a certified copy of the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD from which momma's copy was made. Apparently in Birfoon World, if they cannot see a copy reproduced from momma's copy, then there can be no proof.
LMAO. Please take your meds.
<quoted text>
Apparently in FlapperLand there are only idiots. Try and follow this, it really isn't complex. If you were born in Hawaii today you would be issued a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth (with me so far?). If you were born in Hawaii before this change in policy then you would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (still there?). On file, a person will either have a CERTIFICATE or a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth. So, why is Obumbler posting only a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth? He should have a CERTIFICATE! Comprende'?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#160659 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm pretty clear on it. There is no original.
Really? There is no original vital record at HDoH from which the certified long form copies were made? There is only one original, and that is kept at the Department of Health in Honolulu, and although they copied the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD to new security paper, that doesn't mean it is not a copy of the ORIGINAL. Really, a copy of the original is not an authentic copy unless it was printed on 1961 paper?

Please take your meds!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The State of Hawaii provided Senator Obama with a Certification of Live Birth in 2007 because, just like anyone else born in Hawaii, and for whom an original vital record is kept on file by the Department of Health, he was entitled to it, if he paid the correct fee.
Indeed, if they didn't have an original vital record on file wherein the facts of his birth were recorded, he would have been out of luck, just like anyone else.
Does that help clear up your confusion?

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