BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
wojar

Bristol, CT

#160613 Jun 21, 2013
correction: constructed a database
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160615 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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And Romper again fails basic English comprehension. "We keep the original on file" requires that ANYONE requesting their BC be issued a new copy.
Duh
You're an idiot! A copy of his original BC is what we're waiting on. Do you think they're going to send you an old "copy"? The only one with a comprehension problem is you. Farnsworth, you might be able to figure it out if you look at Pop's post again. Then again, maybe not! Watch it everyone, Mr. Kerplunk is dilated! Still acting like a butt-sore loser cause I made you cry, huh? Don't worry, be happy! LMAO! Would you be interested in some beautiful river front property on the mighty Red River????? LMAO! DS
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160616 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "(and it reduces wear on tear on the paper documents as well)"
That should read: "wear and tear."
You don't know what you're talking about, as usual.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160617 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
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The State of Hawaii provided Senator Obama with a Certification of Live Birth in 2007 because, just like anyone else born in Hawaii, and for whom an original vital record is kept on file by the Department of Health, he was entitled to it, if he paid the correct fee.
Indeed, if they didn't have an original vital record on file wherein the facts of his birth were recorded, he would have been out of luck, just like anyone else.
Does that help clear up your confusion?
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I'm pretty clear on it. There is no original.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160618 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Thank you for admitting your claim of steady job losses under Obama is a pipe dream.
Oh my oh my! The Black Sea once presumably had a flood and some of the people living there probably died. Connecticut once had a big flood in 1955, and there were people living there too, and some of them died! Golly gee!
But neither was a worldwide flood that immersed the entire earth and covered mountains killing all humans and land animals, save for those on Noah's supercalifragilistic ark.
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Here, I'll put it in terms you can understand. I don't buy those numbers for one second. Obumbler has been propped up and protected from day one. Guess they figured he couldn't handle the truth!

Why are marine fossils found in strata high up in the mountains? It may not have covered the entire globe, you haven't heard me make that statement. However, at the time, even you have to admit the human population was much, much smaller than it is now or in the 50's, no? This flood would have occurred right in the middle of the "hub" of human life. Geological evidence supports this flood theory. And surely a flood could be the cause of a bottleneck, no? The Black Sea was once much smaller and contained freshwater, you knew that right?
Learn to Read

Columbus, IN

#160619 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>You're an idiot! A copy of his original BC is what we're waiting on. Do you think they're going to send you an old "copy"? The only one with a comprehension problem is you. Farnsworth, you might be able to figure it out if you look at Pop's post again. Then again, maybe not! Watch it everyone, Mr. Kerplunk is dilated! Still acting like a butt-sore loser cause I made you cry, huh? Don't worry, be happy! LMAO! Would you be interested in some beautiful river front property on the mighty Red River????? LMAO! DS
A copy of the original BC us what you've seen. Of course the Lil puss got his panties in a wad because the State of Hawaii certified "this is an exact copy" but since the certification was in English, your concussion is not surprising
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160620 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Excerpted from an article in GSA Today.
“Geologists assess theories by how well they fit data, and creationists evaluate facts by how well they fit their theories. This simple distinction frames an unbridgeable intellectual rift. Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge.”
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/22...
The simple fact is if the world were as primitive today as it was 5000 years ago, people on what is now the Eastern Seaboard may well have thought Hurricane Floyd caused a worldwide flood. So what?
Yes, just as people in the "cradle of life" would have thought! Global. I've never said it was global.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160621 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
If you think August 4, 1961 was six years ago then I cannot help you. You need a psychiatrist.
<quoted text>
Would you like a little more time to look at that?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160622 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
And Romper again fails basic English comprehension. "We keep the original on file" requires that ANYONE requesting their BC be issued a new copy.
Duh
Idiot. Do you think they keep "old" copies lying around? Dense.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160623 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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A copy of the original BC us what you've seen. Of course the Lil puss got his panties in a wad because the State of Hawaii certified "this is an exact copy" but since the certification was in English, your concussion is not surprising
Then by your own words he does not have a birth certificate, only a certificate of live birth, which can be mailed in from somewhere other than Hawaii!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160624 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Would you like a little more time to look at that?
Now, is this normal logic? Math problem, hmmmm, call a shrink! HUH?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160625 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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I'm pretty clear on it. There is no original.
Answer: The original is in the files, where it is supposed to be and where it always will stay. Hawaii, like all the other states, does not send out the originals. It sends out official copies on security paper. That is what Hawaii sent to Obama twice, first the official COLB, the short form, and then the long form, which is a photocopy onto security paper of the original in the files. And that is what the officials in Hawaii have said that they sent to Obama, both times, and officials of BOTH parties said so, and they have also repeatedly confirmed that the FACTS on the birth certificate that the White House has shown are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160626 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Ellen, that's not quite the procedure. The clerk does not do the data entry. Hawaii hired hordes of people to do the massive data entry, contracted a database, and set up their system. The clerk merely needs to identify the correct database file and print. No need to look at the image of the original paper record.
Then it was the clerk who entered the birth certificate into the database. For that to have happened there had to be a birth certificate, and it had to say on it that Obama was born in HONOLULU because that is what the COLB says.

However, I'm not at all sure about the "hired hordes of people to do the massive data entry" that you say occurred. Have you got a link to show for that? It is possible, of course, but it is expensive, and barring a good reason to digitize other than by entering the images of the BCs, many states would not spend the money. All that they would do is enter the images of the BCs, index them by name and date, and let the clerk check the place of birth (Oahu or an other island) and enter it. Otherwise they would have to enter the town and island for every file even those who do not ask for copies.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160627 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>I'm pretty clear on it. There is no original.
And Lil Romper us going to hold his breath until he sees a copy of a document he claims doesn't exist. Not too bright that Romper
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160628 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Then by your own words he does not have a birth certificate, only a certificate of live birth, which can be mailed in from somewhere other than Hawaii!
OReaLY moron? Hawaii issues a COLB - do they use a shared service center in Mussissippi to issue it? And of course there's the long form that they made a special copy if for him .... But those are just legal documents and absolute proof of place of birth. They have no value in a court of play law

Poor Lil Puss Boi. So many words, do little comprehension
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160629 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You don't know what you're talking about, as usual.
Rational readers will notice that the above is not a discussion of the facts. It simply claims that I do not know. Well, the fact is still a FACT that Hawaii does not photocopy the originals and send those photocopies to people who ask for their birth certificate. It has been issuing COLBs to everyone, new births plus those who ask for copies of their birth certificate, since that became the law in 2001. And many states do exactly the same thing.

Mitt Romney's birth certificate (which Michigan calls a Certificate of Live Birth) was also a computer-generated short-form birth certificate issued recently, not the one sent to his parents and not a photocopy of the original in the files.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160630 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Idiot. Do you think they keep "old" copies lying around? Dense.
You're the one whining because the new copy was only made six years ago.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160631 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Then by your own words he does not have a birth certificate, only a certificate of live birth, which can be mailed in from somewhere other than Hawaii!
Answer: It is nutty to believe that a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth (the short form) and a Certificate of Live Birth (the long form) are not both birth certificates. Both are simply fancy names for birth certificates. The birth certificate that Mitt Romney showed was called a Certificate of Live Birth. It was, however, only a short-form birth certificate. So Michigan calls its short-form birth certificates Certificates and Hawaii calls its short-form birth certificates Certifications. The fact is that both of them are the official birth certificates of those states.

No, neither the certification of live birth nor the certificate of live birth can be mailed from anywhere but Hawaii. Only Hawaii can send out those birth certificates, and it does not send out birth certificates that lie about the place of birth, and both the short-form and the long-form say that Obama was born in Honolulu. And the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that that fact appears on Obama's birth certificate and, in fact, that ALL the facts on the birth certificate that the White House has published are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160632 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
And Lil Romper us going to hold his breath until he sees a copy of a document he claims doesn't exist. Not too bright that Romper
What wasn't very bright was putting a PDF file on the net as his BC, thinking no one will notice! Can you say STUPID? Are you getting a clue yet as to how dumb this admin is? And the lil butt-sore loser runs off like a scalded azz ape! It's said he could be heard yelling.....but wait, I'll buy you a drink! LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160633 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
OReaLY moron? Hawaii issues a COLB - do they use a shared service center in Mussissippi to issue it? And of course there's the long form that they made a special copy if for him .... But those are just legal documents and absolute proof of place of birth. They have no value in a court of play law
Poor Lil Puss Boi. So many words, do little comprehension
You're right about one thing; it was a special copy alright!

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