BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160645 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Poor puss boi. Gonna rant some more pathetic empty threats for us?
Another typical troll post from Mr. Kurly Q. Kerplunk! Watch it folks, he is dilated!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160646 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: Who cares what you think.
Yes, people do lose their original birth certificates, and in fact the birth certificate that Mitt Romney posted, a short-form birth certificate, was a recent official copy and not a copy of what was sent to his family.
In both cases, Romney and Obama, the original is in the files and cannot be sent to anyone. Both men were sent official COPIES, and that is what they posted. Obama first posted his birth certificate way back in June 2008, long before the election of that year. He posted the long form copy in 2011. The officials in Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the copies to Obama and that the facts on the long-form published by the White House are exactly the same as on what they sent to him.
Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160647 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Another typical troll post from Mr. Kurly Q. Kerplunk! Watch it folks, he is dilated!
Poor Romper. Still can't comprehend English.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160648 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Since he received a copy of each your fable is even more pathetic than usual
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160649 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Answer: The original IS on file, and the official copy of it is the short form Certification of Live Birth---that is what Hawaii has been sending to everyone since it became the official birth certificate back in 2001.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160650 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Since he received a copy of each your fable is even more pathetic than usual
As usual, you're incorrect. You haven't comprehended any part of this conversation! All you add are your troll remarks. You remind me of the difference between a puppy and a ND fan. Eventually, the puppy quits whining!
T kiergen

Venice, FL

#160651 Jun 21, 2013
What I'd like to know is 2 part:
1 Why, if he was born in the US was he known as "The Senator From Kenya" in 2004
2 With all these lawsuits challenging his birth.. Why has he not just plunked the real certificate down on the counter in front of a Judge instead of costing himself (and us taxpayers)literally millions of dollars fighting said suits? Seems to me that 35 or 50 bucks for a certified copy of the original would be a lot cheaper all the way around..... To date there is not one judge who has seen it.. It's been fought every time.. why?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160652 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
Poor Birfoons. Another Oily appeal dismissed ....
http://ia601700.us.archive.org/12/items/gov.u...
The failures just build one after the other
Yeah, but Zollo the Clown promises, "any day now."
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160653 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>As usual, you're incorrect. You haven't comprehended any part of this conversation! All you add are your troll remarks. You remind me of the difference between a puppy and a ND fan. Eventually, the puppy quits whining!
You are still wrong. About everything (and Rouge declares himself to be Romper's Siamese twin in 3 ... 2 ...)
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160654 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: The original IS on file, and the official copy of it is the short form Certification of Live Birth---that is what Hawaii has been sending to everyone since it became the official birth certificate back in 2001.
You are either missing or ignoring the point. When Obumbler was born ('61) he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth, not a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth, like they do now. He was sent a copy of what they had on file, a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth but not a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (which, had he been born in Hawaii in '61, he would have on record). They only issue CERTIFICATIONS now! That was not the case when he was supposedly born in Hawaii. At that time, he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth and a copy of that would have been sent to him but it wasn't. Why? Oh, I forgot the hospital lost it. Dang! LMAO!

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#160655 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: The original is in the files, where it is supposed to be and where it always will stay. Hawaii, like all the other states, does not send out the originals. It sends out official copies on security paper. That is what Hawaii sent to Obama twice, first the official COLB, the short form, and then the long form, which is a photocopy onto security paper of the original in the files. And that is what the officials in Hawaii have said that they sent to Obama, both times, and officials of BOTH parties said so, and they have also repeatedly confirmed that the FACTS on the birth certificate that the White House has shown are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
Ellen1
No matter what you tell a birther they will only believe in mental unbalanced nuts like Joseph Farah , Jerome Corsi , Alex Jones.
Who spew this B.S they think there was a vast conspiricay to elect Obama president.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160656 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Yeah, but Zollo the Clown promises, "any day now."
I guess I missed your answer, so I'll assume you agree that a great flood could have been the cause of a bottleneck.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160657 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're an idiot! A copy of his original BC is what we're waiting on. Do you think they're going to send you an old "copy"? The only one with a comprehension problem is you. Farnsworth, you might be able to figure it out if you look at Pop's post again. Then again, maybe not! Watch it everyone, Mr. Kerplunk is dilated! Still acting like a butt-sore loser cause I made you cry, huh? Don't worry, be happy! LMAO! Would you be interested in some beautiful river front property on the mighty Red River????? LMAO! DS
Two certified copies of the original vital record were provided by HDoH to President Obama. They included the signatures of both the attending physician, the mother who was in the hospital, and the local registrar. Apparently birfoons demand a photocopy of the particular copy that was issued to Obama's mommy, rather than a certified copy of the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD from which momma's copy was made. Apparently in Birfoon World, if they cannot see a copy reproduced from momma's copy, then there can be no proof.

LMAO. Please take your meds.
Learn to Read wrote:
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And Romper again fails basic English comprehension. "We keep the original on file" requires that ANYONE requesting their BC be issued a new copy.
Duh
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160658 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Two certified copies of the original vital record were provided by HDoH to President Obama. They included the signatures of both the attending physician, the mother who was in the hospital, and the local registrar. Apparently birfoons demand a photocopy of the particular copy that was issued to Obama's mommy, rather than a certified copy of the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD from which momma's copy was made. Apparently in Birfoon World, if they cannot see a copy reproduced from momma's copy, then there can be no proof.
LMAO. Please take your meds.
<quoted text>
Apparently in FlapperLand there are only idiots. Try and follow this, it really isn't complex. If you were born in Hawaii today you would be issued a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth (with me so far?). If you were born in Hawaii before this change in policy then you would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (still there?). On file, a person will either have a CERTIFICATE or a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth. So, why is Obumbler posting only a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth? He should have a CERTIFICATE! Comprende'?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160659 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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I'm pretty clear on it. There is no original.
Really? There is no original vital record at HDoH from which the certified long form copies were made? There is only one original, and that is kept at the Department of Health in Honolulu, and although they copied the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD to new security paper, that doesn't mean it is not a copy of the ORIGINAL. Really, a copy of the original is not an authentic copy unless it was printed on 1961 paper?

Please take your meds!
wojar wrote:
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The State of Hawaii provided Senator Obama with a Certification of Live Birth in 2007 because, just like anyone else born in Hawaii, and for whom an original vital record is kept on file by the Department of Health, he was entitled to it, if he paid the correct fee.
Indeed, if they didn't have an original vital record on file wherein the facts of his birth were recorded, he would have been out of luck, just like anyone else.
Does that help clear up your confusion?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160660 Jun 21, 2013
T kiergen wrote:
What I'd like to know is 2 part:
1 Why, if he was born in the US was he known as "The Senator From Kenya" in 2004
2 With all these lawsuits challenging his birth.. Why has he not just plunked the real certificate down on the counter in front of a Judge instead of costing himself (and us taxpayers)literally millions of dollars fighting said suits? Seems to me that 35 or 50 bucks for a certified copy of the original would be a lot cheaper all the way around..... To date there is not one judge who has seen it.. It's been fought every time.. why?
Answer: he wasn't known as "The senator from Kenya." Birthers made that up.

Re lawsuits: The cheapest easiest way to throw out a lawsuit is to show that the plaintiffs lack standing. And they do lack standing.

And, now, since I have answered your questions, why not try to answer mine?

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160661 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You are either missing or ignoring the point. When Obumbler was born ('61) he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth, not a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth, like they do now. He was sent a copy of what they had on file, a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth but not a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (which, had he been born in Hawaii in '61, he would have on record). They only issue CERTIFICATIONS now! That was not the case when he was supposedly born in Hawaii. At that time, he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth and a copy of that would have been sent to him but it wasn't. Why? Oh, I forgot the hospital lost it. Dang! LMAO!
Who says that it wasn't sent to his family in 1961? Like everyone else, they got the birth certificate in 1961, the original long form, the CERTIFICATE, but they LOST IT.

People do lose their birth certificates, you know. When people lose their birth certificates, they ask the state to send them another one.

Obama did that in 2007, and Hawaii sent him the official birth certificate that had been official since October. That is why a CERTIFICATION, the only birth certificate that Hawaii issued or sent to anyone in 2007, is a copy of the CERTIFICATE that was sent to Obama's parents. It is not a photocopy, the law requires that it be a short-form birth certificate, the CERTIFICATION.

When Obama was born, his family received the normal CERTIFICATE, the long form, but they lost it. The long-form birth certificate that was sent to Obama in 2011 is a photocopy onto security paper of the original CERTIFICATE.

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#160662 Jun 21, 2013
T kiergen wrote:
What I'd like to know is 2 part:
1 Why, if he was born in the US was he known as "The Senator From Kenya" in 2004
2 With all these lawsuits challenging his birth.. Why has he not just plunked the real certificate down on the counter in front of a Judge instead of costing himself (and us taxpayers)literally millions of dollars fighting said suits? Seems to me that 35 or 50 bucks for a certified copy of the original would be a lot cheaper all the way around..... To date there is not one judge who has seen it.. It's been fought every time.. why?
KENYAN-BORN Obama did mention having his "birth certificate" on page 26 of "Dreams from My Father". Whatever happened to that one? Did he actually lose it or 'accidently' shred it?
His Grandma Sarah Obama insisted she was present at this usurper's birth in Mombassa before he was later adopted in Indonesia. BHO is using a stolen SSN and forged Hawaiian Birth Certificate. Worse yet Obama is the Antichrist. Pope Francis is the False Prophet and same-sex marriage is the abomination of desolation. All these ills have been brought upon us by The Illuminati/Freemasons of which there are 6-million members worldwide half of them in the U.S. including Romney & Paul Ryan.
ALSO: BHO is gay and his mother was a pornstar.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160663 Jun 21, 2013
nebka wrote:
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Ellen1
No matter what you tell a birther they will only believe in mental unbalanced nuts like Joseph Farah , Jerome Corsi , Alex Jones.
Who spew this B.S they think there was a vast conspiricay to elect Obama president.
Vast conspiracy? I've said for a long time that I think Obumbler pulled a fast one on his own party. Personally, I think it is what, I suppose, could be called a technicality. Either way it is wrong. But a vast conspiracy? Not that I see. I see Chicago style politics than anything else. He pulled a fast one. And yes, even on his own people (if he really has any)!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160664 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Here, I'll put it in terms you can understand. I don't buy those numbers for one second. Obumbler has been propped up and protected from day one. Guess they figured he couldn't handle the truth!
Why are marine fossils found in strata high up in the mountains? It may not have covered the entire globe, you haven't heard me make that statement. However, at the time, even you have to admit the human population was much, much smaller than it is now or in the 50's, no? This flood would have occurred right in the middle of the "hub" of human life. Geological evidence supports this flood theory. And surely a flood could be the cause of a bottleneck, no? The Black Sea was once much smaller and contained freshwater, you knew that right?
Birfoon: "I don't buy those numbers for one second."

So we must trust LSR's bare unsubstantiated assertion as fact because he doesn't "buy" the numbers.

Why are marine fossils found high in the mountains? Because the land that those mountains are composed of were once ancient ocean floors, before the mountains were formed. There was never enough water on this planet to submerge mountains. Sorry.

BTW, moron, if the marine fossils high in the Andes and Himalayas were due to a flood that deposited fossils at those elevations, the land masses of the earth would have been covered by flood waters, and again, there was never enough water on the earth for such a fantasy. Physically impossible.

Hub of human life?

Moron: "Geological evidence supports this flood theory."

What flood theory? A flood that occurred in the region of the Black Sea submerged the Andes? Is that your theory?

Moron: "And surely a flood could be the cause of a bottleneck, no?"

A flood that only drowns humans and not squirrels, hamsters, bears, deer, caribou, cats, et cetera?

What RU smoking?

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
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Thank you for admitting your claim of steady job losses under Obama is a pipe dream.
Oh my oh my! The Black Sea once presumably had a flood and some of the people living there probably died. Connecticut once had a big flood in 1955, and there were people living there too, and some of them died! Golly gee!
But neither was a worldwide flood that immersed the entire earth and covered mountains killing all humans and land animals, save for those on Noah's supercalifragilistic ark.

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