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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#160587 Jun 20, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't it be great if we still had rivers that catch fire? Lakes loaded with PCBs? Rivers that smell worse than a sewer with no fish but lots of heavy metals? Damn that EPA. And wouldn't it be great if we had air quality like it was in the 60s? Kids dying of asthma is what we need?
Pa sits right on top of something called the Marcellus Shale...

It is one of the largest natural gas deposits in the world.

How much is there?

Enough to power the U.S. for generations...it is immense.

What that could do for the state is clearly understood but, a new technique is required.

It is undeniable what fracking does... it is hard for me to believe there isn't another way.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160590 Jun 20, 2013
Utah, western Wyoming and Colorado have all recently found huge oil reserves as well. Possibly more than all of OPEC.
Tea Party Patriot

Topeka, KS

#160591 Jun 21, 2013
We are the Tea Party Patriots in too many numbers to ignore. Sarah Palin in 2016

The House GOP revolts: John Boehner officially has no control over his caucus
By Jon Terbush | The Week – 12 hrs ago

The speaker suffers another embarrassing defeat at the hands of his own party
In a stinging blow to Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), the House on Thursday voted down a five-year farm bill, with 62 Republicans siding against the party leadership and voting no.
By a vote of 234 to 195, the House defeated the measure, largely over objections to proposed cuts to food stamps. Democrats decried those cuts as too deep, while conservative Republicans who joined them said those cuts should have been much deeper.
The embarrassing defeat for Boehner comes one year after he opted to not even bring the massive,$940 billion measure to the floor for a vote because of Republican objections. The bill was thought to have had more bipartisan support this time around, and its defeat came as a surprise.
Boehner even took the unusual step of publicly backing the bill — to no avail. And to pour salt in the wound, the divisive food-stamp cuts that scuttled the legislation had been pushed by Boehner's top lieutenant, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.).
Republicans tried to pin the blame for the bill's defeat on Democrats, saying they'd been banking on 40 promised votes from across the aisle that allegedly evaporated at the last moment; only 24 Democrats voted in favor of the bill. Yet as Roll Call pointed out, even with all 40 of those votes, the bill still would have failed.http://news.yahoo.com/h ouse-gop-revolts-john-boehner- officially-no-control-19290040 0.html

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#160592 Jun 21, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, your claim of job losses flies in the face of steady job gains.
http://tinyurl.com/7oubyt8
And the job gains are eve better today than when this data was published.
You're not doing to well when it comes to facts.
BTW, have you found Noah's ark yet?
Did you notice, in YOUR graph, that just as soon as Obama entered the White House there is another flag that claims things are improving? How about this graph?
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
WE have TEN MILLION fewer employed Americans since the start of the Great Recession, and Seven MILLION few since Obama entered the White House, and to fix that we will need 500,000 new jobs per month for TEN years to fix that (because of population growth).
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160593 Jun 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, he posted a JPG image of a document that did not exist. Hawaii has NEVER made a document that resembles either the so called CoLB or the so called BC and you can not show us any document from another person born in Hawaii that looks remotely like either document.
No you can't because there are no other documents.
Answer: As Poppo has pointed out, Hawaii has in fact said that the short form birth certificate (COLB) is just like the other ones that it issues. And, as I have pointed out repeatedly, the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have stated that the facts on Obama's long form birth certificate are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him (and that there was a raised seal attached).

There is a third point that disproves what you claim and it should be obvious. It is that MILLIONS of people have been getting Hawaii COLBs ever since they became the official birth certificate of Hawaii in 2001, and if Obama's COLB looked different from theirs, they or their parents would have said something about it.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160594 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
So we have a six year old as president? LMAO!
LMAO at you.

There is a reason why states issue birth certificates to people years after they were born. It is, duh, that often people lose the originals that were sent to them.

LMAO!!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160595 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Why was Obumbler issued a new BC when his original was/is on file?
Duh
Answer: in 2001 Hawaii adopted the COLB as its official birth certificate, and the procedure for anyone who wants a copy of her or his birth certificate is that they get a COLB.

The COLB procedure is for the clerk to look into the file, read the facts on the document, enter them onto the computer form, and the computer spits out the COLB. It is more efficient to do this than to make photocopies of the paper documents in the file (and it reduces wear on tear on the paper documents as well).
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#160596 Jun 21, 2013
Re: "(and it reduces wear on tear on the paper documents as well)"

That should read: "wear and tear."

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160597 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Why was Obumbler issued a new BC when his original was/is on file?
Duh
The State of Hawaii provided Senator Obama with a Certification of Live Birth in 2007 because, just like anyone else born in Hawaii, and for whom an original vital record is kept on file by the Department of Health, he was entitled to it, if he paid the correct fee.

Indeed, if they didn't have an original vital record on file wherein the facts of his birth were recorded, he would have been out of luck, just like anyone else.

Does that help clear up your confusion?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Every new certified BC issued looks just like Obama's 2007 BC. They are not photocopies of the original vital record.
Duh!
See the problem with IGNORANCE?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160598 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What is our economic growth rate? 2% at best? That's basically a standstill. How many people have simply quit looking for work? Bet ya those numbers are inflated.
I have not found Noah's ark. Haven't been looking either. Here's a theory for you; polar ice sheets were melting, sea levels were rising, the Mediterranean rose and spilled into the Black Sea. Which at the time was probably a loci for human habitation. Geological evidence supports this but since you don't think Geology is a real science, I'm sure it won't mean anything to you.
Thank you for admitting your claim of steady job losses under Obama is a pipe dream.

Oh my oh my! The Black Sea once presumably had a flood and some of the people living there probably died. Connecticut once had a big flood in 1955, and there were people living there too, and some of them died! Golly gee!

But neither was a worldwide flood that immersed the entire earth and covered mountains killing all humans and land animals, save for those on Noah's supercalifragilistic ark.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, your claim of job losses flies in the face of steady job gains.
http://tinyurl.com/7oubyt8
And the job gains are eve better today than when this data was published.
You're not doing to well when it comes to facts.
BTW, have you found Noah's ark yet?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160599 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What is our economic growth rate? 2% at best? That's basically a standstill. How many people have simply quit looking for work? Bet ya those numbers are inflated.
I have not found Noah's ark. Haven't been looking either. Here's a theory for you; polar ice sheets were melting, sea levels were rising, the Mediterranean rose and spilled into the Black Sea. Which at the time was probably a loci for human habitation. Geological evidence supports this but since you don't think Geology is a real science, I'm sure it won't mean anything to you.
Excerpted from an article in GSA Today.

“Geologists assess theories by how well they fit data, and creationists evaluate facts by how well they fit their theories. This simple distinction frames an unbridgeable intellectual rift. Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge.”

http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/22...

The simple fact is if the world were as primitive today as it was 5000 years ago, people on what is now the Eastern Seaboard may well have thought Hurricane Floyd caused a worldwide flood. So what?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160600 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
So we have a six year old as president? LMAO!
If you think August 4, 1961 was six years ago then I cannot help you. You need a psychiatrist.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Every new certified BC issued looks just like Obama's 2007 BC. They are not photocopies of the original vital record.
Duh!
See the problem with IGNORANCE?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160601 Jun 21, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Pa sits right on top of something called the Marcellus Shale...
It is one of the largest natural gas deposits in the world.
How much is there?
Enough to power the U.S. for generations...it is immense.
What that could do for the state is clearly understood but, a new technique is required.
It is undeniable what fracking does... it is hard for me to believe there isn't another way.
Agreed.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't it be great if we still had rivers that catch fire? Lakes loaded with PCBs? Rivers that smell worse than a sewer with no fish but lots of heavy metals? Damn that EPA. And wouldn't it be great if we had air quality like it was in the 60s? Kids dying of asthma is what we need?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160602 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Could you possibly be any more lame? I've never seen anyone even close to your level of pinkness. DoDo bird
DoDo bird? Poor Romper is obviously experiencing his 2nd childhood. Well, maybe this trip through age 7 won't include getting beaten up by a give year old girl.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160603 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Why was Obumbler issued a new BC when his original was/is on file?

Duh
And Romper again fails basic English comprehension. "We keep the original on file" requires that ANYONE requesting their BC be issued a new copy.

Duh

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160604 Jun 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you notice, in YOUR graph, that just as soon as Obama entered the White House there is another flag that claims things are improving? How about this graph?
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
WE have TEN MILLION fewer employed Americans since the start of the Great Recession, and Seven MILLION few since Obama entered the White House, and to fix that we will need 500,000 new jobs per month for TEN years to fix that (because of population growth).
Hmmmm. Jobs were plummeting, precipitously, and then Obama came in and staunched the hemorrhaging. Rouge thinks the after effects of this near death experience is evidence that we should have just let the patient die under the Repubs.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, your claim of job losses flies in the face of steady job gains.
http://tinyurl.com/7oubyt8
And the job gains are eve better today than when this data was published.
You're not doing to well when it comes to facts.
BTW, have you found Noah's ark yet?
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#160606 Jun 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, obviously you have no idea how it works in DC because if you did, the president can declassify anything!!! And you have ZERO evidence that Cheney did either.
If Obama could have prosecuted them, he would have.
Oh, to avoid being prosecuted Bill Clinton did sign a Consent DEcree!
Oh, and Vote Vets, is NOT a veterans organization. Only 5% of their members have ever been in the military. All Vote Vets is is a front group for .... Progressives!
VoteVets fight very hard to benefit our troops.

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G I Bill 2008
http://www.gibill2008.org/

SENATE “D LIST”
4 Republican Senators against funding our troops & GI Bill in 2008
Below you will find a complete list of Senators
who earned a D or lower from IAVA Action
this year. These legislators must improve their voting records if they are to legitimately claim that they support our troops and veterans.
Tom Coburn OK
Michael Enzi WY
John McCain AZ
Jim DeMint SC
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
http://www.iava.org/
http://www.veteranreportcard.org/reportcard.p...

2008 Congressional Report Card
Find out who in Washington really supports our troops and veterans.
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
http://www.iava.org/
http://www.veteranreportcard.org/reportcard.p...

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Mr. Bush and the G.I. Bill
May 26, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/69thm5
President Bush opposes a new G.I. Bill of Rights. He worries that if the traditional path to college for service members since World War II is improved and expanded for the post-9/11 generation, too many people will take it.
He is wrong, but at least he is consistent. Having saddled the military with a botched, un-winnable war, having squandered soldiers’ lives and failed them in so many ways, the commander in chief now resists giving the troops a chance at better futures out of uniform. He does this on the ground that the bill is too generous and may discourage re-enlistment, further weakening the military he has done so much to break.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/opinion/26m...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160607 Jun 21, 2013
Poor Birfoons. Another Oily appeal dismissed ....

http://ia601700.us.archive.org/12/items/gov.u...

The failures just build one after the other
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#160608 Jun 21, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
1) What lies did Bush and Cheney tell about WMD in Iraq? To lie one must know what they are saying is untrue and you can not prove that.
2} Name for me the generals, admirals and CIA people who came out publicly?
3) Ford pardoned Nixon to simply put the issue behind us. If Bill Clinton had also resigned like Nixon had, I too would think it would be proper to pardon him.
4) "the prostitutes in Congress" where all DEMOCRATS and they gave North immunity because they thought he was going to finger Reagan and they got greedy!
Now, tell us what a Neo Con is, if you can???
1. I have said it
already.

2. I have told you already.

3. Not true. The Elites always pardon their friends.

4. Wrong, Both parties like to embarrass the other side with phony baloney hearings.

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What I Knew Before the Invasion
http://tinyurl.com/dtpyy November 20, 2005
By Senator Bob Graham
I, too, presumed the president was being truthful -- until a series of events undercut that confidence.

In February 2002, after a briefing on the status of the war in Afghanistan, the commanding officer, Gen. Tommy Franks, told me the war was being compromised as specialized personnel and equipment were being shifted from Afghanistan to prepare for the war in Iraq -- a war more than a year away. Even at this early date, the White House was signaling that the threat posed by Saddam Hussein was of such urgency that it had priority over the crushing of al Qaeda.

In the early fall of 2002, a joint House-Senate intelligence inquiry committee, which I co-chaired, was in the final stages of its investigation of what happened before Sept. 11. As the unclassified final report of the inquiry documented, several failures of intelligence contributed to the tragedy. But as of October 2002, 13 months later, the administration was resisting initiating any substantial action to understand, much less fix, those problems.

At a meeting of the Senate intelligence committee on Sept. 5, 2002, CIA Director George Tenet was asked what the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) provided as the rationale for a preemptive war in Iraq. An NIE is the product of the entire intelligence community, and its most comprehensive assessment. I was stunned when Tenet said that no NIE had been requested by the White House and none had been prepared. Invoking our rarely used senatorial authority, I directed the completion of an NIE.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

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The Iran-Contra Affair 20 Years On
Documents Spotlight Role of Reagan, Top Aides
Pentagon Nominee Robert Gates Among Many
Prominent Figures Involved in the Scandal
http://tinyurl.com/y9rduo
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB210...

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Iran-Contra Felons Get Good Jobs from Bush
http://tinyurl.com/ebx8
http://www.blythe.org/nytransfer-subs/Central...
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#160609 Jun 21, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>JESUS CHRIST is Lord of all forever.
Kenyan-born illegal-alien bisexual son-of-a-pornstar Obama is the Antichrist.
100% Italian & Jesuit Pope Francis is the False Prophet.
Same-sex Marriage is the abomination of desolation.
Next comes World War Three, Rapture & Tribulation.
George W. Bush's January 20, 2001 inauguration was unconstitutional. This isn't because Bush lost the popular vote. Nor is it because he lost Florida and thus the electoral vote. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to hear the Florida recount lawsuit, Bush v. Gore, violated the U.S. Constitution. It's a states' rights issue. Elections fall under state law; the highest court that may resolve a legal challenge about an election is a state supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court--a federal body--didn't have jurisdiction in the case.

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