BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160634 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Rational readers will notice that the above is not a discussion of the facts. It simply claims that I do not know. Well, the fact is still a FACT that Hawaii does not photocopy the originals and send those photocopies to people who ask for their birth certificate. It has been issuing COLBs to everyone, new births plus those who ask for copies of their birth certificate, since that became the law in 2001. And many states do exactly the same thing.
Mitt Romney's birth certificate (which Michigan calls a Certificate of Live Birth) was also a computer-generated short-form birth certificate issued recently, not the one sent to his parents and not a photocopy of the original in the files.
You did notice Topix removing your spam yesterday, right? LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160635 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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You're the one whining because the new copy was only made six years ago.
You really can't learn shyt, can you?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160636 Jun 21, 2013
Why did Obumbler post a "certification" of live birth instead of a Certificate of Live Birth? Only a Certificate of Live Birth is accepted as an original birth certificate. Not a "certification" of live birth. Hawaii no longer issues a "Certificate of Live Birth", only a "certification" of live birth. So, if Obumbler was born in Hawaii in 1961 he should have a "Certificate" of Live Birth. But he doesn't. Why? Did the original get lost? Or perhaps, he was adopted and issued an amended birth certificate?
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160637 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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What wasn't very bright was putting a PDF file on the net as his BC, thinking no one will notice! Can you say STUPID? Are you getting a clue yet as to how dumb this admin is? And the lil butt-sore loser runs off like a scalded azz ape! It's said he could be heard yelling.....but wait, I'll buy you a drink! LMAO!
Answer: I agree that using PDF was stupid. But stupidity is normal in government and is not illegal.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160638 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're right about one thing; it was a special copy alright!
Answer: The long-form birth certificate was a special copy. But the short-form birth certificate was a normal copy, the same kind of copy that Hawaii issues to everyone, and it was sent to Obama way back in June 2007, when Obama was simply a junior senator from Illinois.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160639 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Why did Obumbler post a "certification" of live birth instead of a Certificate of Live Birth? Only a Certificate of Live Birth is accepted as an original birth certificate. Not a "certification" of live birth. Hawaii no longer issues a "Certificate of Live Birth", only a "certification" of live birth. So, if Obumbler was born in Hawaii in 1961 he should have a "Certificate" of Live Birth. But he doesn't. Why? Did the original get lost? Or perhaps, he was adopted and issued an amended birth certificate?
Yes, duh, Obama's family lost the original that was sent to them back in 1961---like millions upon millions of people lose the birth certificate that was sent to their families. So Obama, like millions of others, had to get a copy. And when he did so in 2007, Hawaii sent him the short-form birth certificate, the CertifiCATION of live birth, which is the current official birth certificate of Hawaii. His campaign posted it because that is what Hawaii sent.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160641 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Yes, duh, Obama's family lost the original that was sent to them back in 1961---like millions upon millions of people lose the birth certificate that was sent to their families. So Obama, like millions of others, had to get a copy. And when he did so in 2007, Hawaii sent him the short-form birth certificate, the CertifiCATION of live birth, which is the current official birth certificate of Hawaii. His campaign posted it because that is what Hawaii sent.
So, no original birth certificate was ever posted. Lost huh? Man, the list of excuses is getting very, very long! I think he was issued an amended BC and never had an original.
Learn to Read

United States

#160642 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>What wasn't very bright was putting a PDF file on the net as his BC, thinking no one will notice! Can you say STUPID? Are you getting a clue yet as to how dumb this admin is? And the lil butt-sore loser runs off like a scalded azz ape! It's said he could be heard yelling.....but wait, I'll buy you a drink! LMAO!
Still stuck on stupid huh romper? Yes. You ran and hid for a week. We all noticed a drop off in our laughter
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#160643 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>You really can't learn shyt, can you?
Poor puss boi. Gonna rant some more pathetic empty threats for us?
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160644 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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So, no original birth certificate was ever posted. Lost huh? Man, the list of excuses is getting very, very long! I think he was issued an amended BC and never had an original.
Answer: Who cares what you think.

Yes, people do lose their original birth certificates, and in fact the birth certificate that Mitt Romney posted, a short-form birth certificate, was a recent official copy and not a copy of what was sent to his family.

In both cases, Romney and Obama, the original is in the files and cannot be sent to anyone. Both men were sent official COPIES, and that is what they posted. Obama first posted his birth certificate way back in June 2008, long before the election of that year. He posted the long form copy in 2011. The officials in Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the copies to Obama and that the facts on the long-form published by the White House are exactly the same as on what they sent to him.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160645 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Poor puss boi. Gonna rant some more pathetic empty threats for us?
Another typical troll post from Mr. Kurly Q. Kerplunk! Watch it folks, he is dilated!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160646 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: Who cares what you think.
Yes, people do lose their original birth certificates, and in fact the birth certificate that Mitt Romney posted, a short-form birth certificate, was a recent official copy and not a copy of what was sent to his family.
In both cases, Romney and Obama, the original is in the files and cannot be sent to anyone. Both men were sent official COPIES, and that is what they posted. Obama first posted his birth certificate way back in June 2008, long before the election of that year. He posted the long form copy in 2011. The officials in Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the copies to Obama and that the facts on the long-form published by the White House are exactly the same as on what they sent to him.
Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Learn to Read

United States

#160647 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Another typical troll post from Mr. Kurly Q. Kerplunk! Watch it folks, he is dilated!
Poor Romper. Still can't comprehend English.
Learn to Read

United States

#160648 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Since he received a copy of each your fable is even more pathetic than usual
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#160649 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Psst, if the original is on file he would have received a copy of his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Certificate not certification! Please explain. Love your comeback though; "who cares what you think". LMAO
Answer: The original IS on file, and the official copy of it is the short form Certification of Live Birth---that is what Hawaii has been sending to everyone since it became the official birth certificate back in 2001.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160650 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Since he received a copy of each your fable is even more pathetic than usual
As usual, you're incorrect. You haven't comprehended any part of this conversation! All you add are your troll remarks. You remind me of the difference between a puppy and a ND fan. Eventually, the puppy quits whining!
T kiergen

Grand Rapids, MI

#160651 Jun 21, 2013
What I'd like to know is 2 part:
1 Why, if he was born in the US was he known as "The Senator From Kenya" in 2004
2 With all these lawsuits challenging his birth.. Why has he not just plunked the real certificate down on the counter in front of a Judge instead of costing himself (and us taxpayers)literally millions of dollars fighting said suits? Seems to me that 35 or 50 bucks for a certified copy of the original would be a lot cheaper all the way around..... To date there is not one judge who has seen it.. It's been fought every time.. why?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#160652 Jun 21, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
Poor Birfoons. Another Oily appeal dismissed ....
http://ia601700.us.archive.org/12/items/gov.u...
The failures just build one after the other
Yeah, but Zollo the Clown promises, "any day now."
Learn to Read

United States

#160653 Jun 21, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>As usual, you're incorrect. You haven't comprehended any part of this conversation! All you add are your troll remarks. You remind me of the difference between a puppy and a ND fan. Eventually, the puppy quits whining!
You are still wrong. About everything (and Rouge declares himself to be Romper's Siamese twin in 3 ... 2 ...)
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160654 Jun 21, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: The original IS on file, and the official copy of it is the short form Certification of Live Birth---that is what Hawaii has been sending to everyone since it became the official birth certificate back in 2001.
You are either missing or ignoring the point. When Obumbler was born ('61) he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth, not a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth, like they do now. He was sent a copy of what they had on file, a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth but not a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (which, had he been born in Hawaii in '61, he would have on record). They only issue CERTIFICATIONS now! That was not the case when he was supposedly born in Hawaii. At that time, he would have been issued a CERTIFICATE of Live Birth and a copy of that would have been sent to him but it wasn't. Why? Oh, I forgot the hospital lost it. Dang! LMAO!

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