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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160185 Jun 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Show me where I stated the Earth was 6,000 years old. The link was posted for the geological information it contained.
Sorry, you opened the door. The so-called evidence you linked to is presented in support of a 6000 year-old Earth via fake geology. Fake science is not legitimate science.
Sorry.
wojar wrote:
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Now that's a real joke. Mr. Great Flood Really Happened whines that rational criticism of pseudoscience is "too literal". His fantasies have no legs.

According to the scientific method, if hypotheses are falsified either through experimentation or observation, new hypotheses must be developed. The biblical great flood young Earth claptrap is simply not supported by the evidence. I'm really sorry if FALSE and DELUSIONAL is too literal for you. A deluge that immersed the entire Earth 4600 years ago is an impossibility. It physically could not have happened. There was never enough water on the earth. Young Earth is similarly impossible. Studies of protein and DNA sequences show evolution occurred over many millions of years, and that primates walked the earth over one million years ago. Chemical physics provides radioisotopic methods to date some minerals. Radiometric dating proves the Earth to be about 4.5 billion years old.

Speaking of too literal, your heroes' pseudoscience at earthage.org interpret the bible as literally as can be, with creation about 6000 years ago and Noah sailing through the great flood around 4600 years ago. You claimed it was science, Bozo. Too literal? My a$$.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#160186 Jun 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Yes it is pretty simple. I think God is a little more focused on the battle between good and evil. Nice job of twisting, though.
How did I twist anything?

God says clearly in Leviticus that you may not enslave your countrymen but all others are fair game.

There just isn't any way around it.

He provided the part where you cant enslave your countrymen.

I provided the part where you are to enslave those of surrounding nations.

And if you believe the bible is the inspired word of God...then you have no choice but to agree.

These are God's RULES of slavery...a MANDATE from the all-father.

You can't change God's law because you perceive it as unimaginable.

Game-set-match

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160187 Jun 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me where I stated the Earth was 6,000 years old.
wojar wrote:
Speaking of too literal, your heroes' pseudoscience at earthage.org interpret the bible as literally as can be, with creation about 6000 years ago and Noah sailing through the great flood around 4600 years ago. You claimed it was science, Bozo. Too literal? My a$$.
I claimed LRS stated the Earth was 6,000 years old?

Where?

I said LRS **believes** the Earth is 6000 years old. That is why he believes the pseudoscience garbage at young earth web sites.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#160188 Jun 17, 2013
So Wojar, where did all that pesky blue water on Earth originate from anyway?
Comets and other cosmic debris zooming in at super-sonic speeds form outer-space?
And why does it look blue?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#160189 Jun 17, 2013
Hey Wojar,
So where do you think all that pesky blue water on Earth originated from anyway?
Comets and other cosmic debris hurtling in from outer space at super-sonic speeds?
It's not a trick question and one which remains a fundamental mystery to scientific researchers.
I'm going with the comets and asteroid theory myself.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160190 Jun 17, 2013
"Geologists assess theories by how well they fit data, and creationists evaluate facts by how well they fit their theories. This simple distinction frames an unbridgeable intellectual rift. Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge. "

GSA Today

http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/22...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160191 Jun 17, 2013
wojar wrote:
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<quoted text>
I claimed LRS stated the Earth was 6,000 years old?
Where?
I said LRS **believes** the Earth is 6000 years old. That is why he believes the pseudoscience garbage at young earth web sites.
And I believe I told you, you were incorrect. Did I not? Word games now? Very childish indeed. But, to each his own.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160192 Jun 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Then why did the GSA have a series of seminars on the subject in which cases were made both for and against a great flood? These geologist came from all parts of the world. I suppose they are all delusional?
Yes the great biblical flood idiots are delusional.

"no geologic evidence of a global deluge"

Here's what the GSA's own publication has to say about it.

"Geologists assess theories by how well they fit data, and creationists evaluate facts by how well they fit their theories. This simple distinction frames an unbridgeable intellectual rift. Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge."
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160194 Jun 17, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
How did I twist anything?
God says clearly in Leviticus that you may not enslave your countrymen but all others are fair game.
There just isn't any way around it.
He provided the part where you cant enslave your countrymen.
I provided the part where you are to enslave those of surrounding nations.
And if you believe the bible is the inspired word of God...then you have no choice but to agree.
These are God's RULES of slavery...a MANDATE from the all-father.
You can't change God's law because you perceive it as unimaginable.
Game-set-match
You take the Bible too literally. To take this Biblical story and bring it, unchanged, into present day is ludicrous. You're reading interpretations that don't fit in today's world. See the conflict?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160195 Jun 17, 2013
GSA Today:

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge

What part of 'no geologic evidence' does LRS not get?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160197 Jun 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
And I believe I told you, you were incorrect. Did I not? Word games now? Very childish indeed. But, to each his own.
And LRS is lying to himself.

"Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge."

And yet LRS believes in the Great Flood, despite "no geologic evidence" and he doesn't believe in a young Earth? I'm not gonna buy that bridge.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160198 Jun 17, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Yes the great biblical flood idiots are delusional.
"no geologic evidence of a global deluge"
Here's what the GSA's own publication has to say about it.
"Geologists assess theories by how well they fit data, and creationists evaluate facts by how well they fit their theories. This simple distinction frames an unbridgeable intellectual rift. Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge."
Once again, you assumed incorrectly. You think I'm trying to prove Noah's Flood when that simply isn't the case. Because of your assumptions, I don't think you've understood my point yet. See what I mean about that tunnel vision?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160199 Jun 17, 2013
Little LRS caught with his hand in the cookie jar: "No momma I was only lookin' at them I wasn't gonna take any. Cross my heart and hope to die!"

Young Earth creationist and birther. They go together so perfectly.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160202 Jun 17, 2013
Read completely or don't waste your time.

http://www.geosociety.org/meetings/2003/prAva...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160204 Jun 17, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
And LRS is lying to himself.
"Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge."
And yet LRS believes in the Great Flood, despite "no geologic evidence" and he doesn't believe in a young Earth? I'm not gonna buy that bridge.
And again, you assume incorrectly. Really. Don't you know assumption will bite you everytime?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160205 Jun 17, 2013
"[C]reationists lack any independently supported geological evidence to support their views."
David R. Montgomery, Quaternary Research Center and Dept. of Earth and Space Sciences, Box 351310, University of Washington, Seattle, Washington

http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/22...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#160206 Jun 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, you assumed incorrectly. You think I'm trying to prove Noah's Flood when that simply isn't the case. Because of your assumptions, I don't think you've understood my point yet. See what I mean about that tunnel vision?
I understand your fig leaf fell off. You're exposed as a liar and fool.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes the great biblical flood idiots are delusional.
"no geologic evidence of a global deluge"
Here's what the GSA's own publication has to say about it.
"Geologists assess theories by how well they fit data, and creationists evaluate facts by how well they fit their theories. This simple distinction frames an unbridgeable intellectual rift. Nowhere is this divide deeper than over how to interpret the story of Noah’s Flood, for the ideas invoked to explain such an event have been refuted time and again, and there is no geologic evidence of a global deluge."
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160207 Jun 17, 2013
Before I head out for my ride, I want to thank you wojar, for taking my part in my +/-3 day experiment. Honestly, I didn't think it would work but to my surprise they were exactly right. Much light has been shed on our "little" thread. Thanks again wojar!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160208 Jun 17, 2013
*taking part in.....
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#160209 Jun 17, 2013
Funny you should mention EXPOSED! LMAO! You poor dip.

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