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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159762 Jun 15, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually there is. Look it up. Read about it. What's with all the name calling this morning? Surely, you got your fill yesterday? No? In Geological terms you don't know what you're talking about.
Typical birfoon, when confronted with facts and evidence, his non-rebuttal is "go look it up." The impotent little twerp folds when his cards are called.

There is no evidence for the biblical rains that allegedly caused immersion of the entire effing world and destruction of all creatures save for those collected by Noah on his warp speed yacht.

Not only is there no evidence for such a flood, it could not have possibly happened. Again, have you ever heard of the water cycle? Where did all that water come from to immerse the earth, and where did it go? God had a great big celestial fire hose and wet vac?

When you find the link to the wet vac, let me know, OK?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
No there isn't. There is evidence that before mountains rose they were part of the sea floor of ancient oceans. That's not a flood, Bozo. It was not possible for flood waters due to rain (per the bible account) to submerge the entire earth. Have you ever heard of the water cycle? Unless God created rain from nothing, flooded the earth and then sucked it up with a giant wet vac, the great flood myth is just that -- a myth. It is estimated that the total water in the world's oceans is about 1.3 x 10^9 km^3.(That's 1.3 billion cubic meters for the scientifically illiterate.) The atmospheric water is about 12900 km^3 (about 0.001%). This means, Bozo, that if one part of the earth is gaining water, another part is losing water. Sea shells in the mountains is not evidence of a great flood, but rather of a great swamp, between the ears of biblical literalists.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159763 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Caught in you own lies again. What about this ?:
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I won't knock the living S out of ya. As I have said, I fire back. Why no mention of GB's comment to me out of the blue? Double standard?
Yes, you wrote : "Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I won't knock the living S out of ya."
What does "ya" mean?
How many times do you need it explained to you? If you'll give me a number, I'll go ahead and type them all up at once for you. I think we're at three times now.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159764 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical birfoon, when confronted with facts and evidence, his non-rebuttal is "go look it up." The impotent little twerp folds when his cards are called.
There is no evidence for the biblical rains that allegedly caused immersion of the entire effing world and destruction of all creatures save for those collected by Noah on his warp speed yacht.
Not only is there no evidence for such a flood, it could not have possibly happened. Again, have you ever heard of the water cycle? Where did all that water come from to immerse the earth, and where did it go? God had a great big celestial fire hose and wet vac?
When you find the link to the wet vac, let me know, OK?
<quoted text>
Remain ignorant on the subject then. That is your right. Still going with the cheap and petty name-calling, huh? Go for it, it fits you well.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159765 Jun 15, 2013
The only problem is, it maybe the exact opposite! You see, during the Medieval Warm Period our Southwest was WETTER than normal. That was when the Anastasie culture flourished because..... they had more rain ....... so they could cultivate their maize and they is why their population boomed.
Why it is also fact that when the Medieval Warm Period ended around 1200 CE, and the Global Cooling kicked in, the SW returned to a persistent drought!!!
But you see, Live Science is part of the Progressive agenda which must prove Global Warming, so if the Earth gets hotter, there must be more drought!
But also when the Medieval Warm period was cooking, Mongolia was also much wetter, food was plentiful, the population boomed, and when it all ended just before ..... 1200 CE, they returned to drought so Genghis Khan took his people to China to get food.
Where did the Anastasie go? I don't know but they left their cliff dwellings!
Rogue

Another 1930s Dust Bowl Drought Possible This Century (Op-Ed)
By Marlene Cimons, Climate Nexus | LiveScience.com

More importantly, the threat posed by drought could become even greater as the planet heats up, especially in parts of the United States — and the world — that already are dry.
http://news.yahoo.com/another-1930s-dust-bowl...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159766 Jun 15, 2013
Oh, I would rather have Global Warming than Global Cooling as Global Cooling will bring famine, insurrection and war!
The French Revolution started five years after a famine started which was started by ..... volcanic activity in Iceland..... which caused ... Global Cooling!
Yep, 25% of the population of Iceland died following the eruptions of 1783-84.
Laki, Iceland - 1783
http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/education/gase...
Yep, and about 5-10% of the pop of the British Isles died as did 3-5% of French.
The people in Washington DC ought not forget what the Frenchies did to the King and Queen of French either as it might happen to them too!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159767 Jun 15, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Remain ignorant on the subject then. That is your right. Still going with the cheap and petty name-calling, huh? Go for it, it fits you well.
Still no rebuttal? Why not? Please illuminate us all about the source of all that water that immersed the entire land mass of the earth ~5000 years ago.

I provided facts and evidence, LRS is the name caller, crying "ignorance" in the face of his abject impotence and inability to rebut.

Where's your evidence, little twerp. Your cards have been called. Either show 'em or fold.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical birfoon, when confronted with facts and evidence, his non-rebuttal is "go look it up." The impotent little twerp folds when his cards are called.
There is no evidence for the biblical rains that allegedly caused immersion of the entire effing world and destruction of all creatures save for those collected by Noah on his warp speed yacht.
Not only is there no evidence for such a flood, it could not have possibly happened. Again, have you ever heard of the water cycle? Where did all that water come from to immerse the earth, and where did it go? God had a great big celestial fire hose and wet vac?
When you find the link to the wet vac, let me know, OK?
<quoted text>

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#159768 Jun 15, 2013
Obama lied about Columbia just like he lied about his birth certificate
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RUSH: Democrats Need Poor People So Badly, They Must Import Them
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Who are YOU Talking To?
http://cnsnews.com/blog/dan-joseph/who-are-yo...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159769 Jun 15, 2013
Make sure you go to the link to look at the graph.

Laki, Iceland - 1783
It is estimated that 80 Mt of sulfuric acid aerosol was released by the eruption (4 times more than El Chichon and 80 times more than Mount St. Helens).

http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/education/gase...

The climatic effects of the Laki eruption are impressive. In the eastern United States, the winter average temperature was 4.8 degrees C below the 225 year average. The estimate for the temperature decrease of the entire Northern Hemisphere is about 1 degree C. The top graph shows change in acidity in micro equivalents H+ per kg in the Greenland icecap. The bottom graph represents the winter temperature records in the eastern United States. From Sigurdsson (1982).

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159770 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical birfoon, when confronted with facts and evidence, his non-rebuttal is "go look it up." The impotent little twerp folds when his cards are called.
There is no evidence for the biblical rains that allegedly caused immersion of the entire effing world and destruction of all creatures save for those collected by Noah on his warp speed yacht.
Not only is there no evidence for such a flood, it could not have possibly happened. Again, have you ever heard of the water cycle? Where did all that water come from to immerse the earth, and where did it go? God had a great big celestial fire hose and wet vac?
When you find the link to the wet vac, let me know, OK?
<quoted text>
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Remain ignorant on the subject then. That is your right. Still going with the cheap and petty name-calling, huh? Go for it, it fits you well.
Ya know, they would not be on this forum unless they were worried!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159771 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical Rouge, thinks an expiring law that was extended in 2011 has something to do with NSA activities reported in April 2009. BTW, those activities were REPORTED in 2009 in the New York Times. In Rouge's infantile mind, that means NSA over-collection BEGAN in April 2009 and was specifically ordered by Obama himself.
"The legal and operational problems surrounding the N.S.A.’s surveillance activities have come under scrutiny from the Obama administration, Congressional intelligence committees and a secret national security court, said the intelligence officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because N.S.A. activities are classified."
Nope, the need a bigger facility because Obama wants to collect even more data on private citizens that he has already been doing. Plus he needs to computer capacity to filter all of that new data!
At what point does that attack our civil rights?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159772 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think it is just a coincidence that the Muslims and Jews cannot get along?
I Think Not!
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The intifada started in Genesis 16:12
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
ISHMAEL IS THE FOUNDER OF Jebusites, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines, Hivites, Hittites, Midianites, Amalekites, Egyptians, Chaldeans, Babylonians, Arabs, Medes and Persians.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Moses of Israel won and Pharaoh of Egypt lost.
David of Israel won and Goliath of Philistines lost.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
Ishmael was the illegitimate son of Abraham and his wofe's slave whom he conceived upon coaching from his wife who was barren, but abandoned to die in the desert with his mother when the so-called barren wife gave birth to Isaac...the first attempted murder by the father of us all, Abraham, the second being the attempted murder of his other son, Isaac. Keep going...And if what the writers of God's words insist that Ishmael is the creator of Moslems, that would fight the Jews, who can blame him?

The above is written is a Sunday school manner so you and others can understand. If you want references, I shall get them for you.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159773 Jun 15, 2013
And you Libtards never figured out how the Roman Warm Period doomed Rome, did you!
You see, during the Roman Warm Period it was .. warmer but also wetter and in Northern and Eastern Europe the Germanic tribes pops boomed. So when the weather moderated and it started to get colder north of the Alps, The Germanic tribes headed south. The East Goths (Ostrogoths) and the West Goths (Visigoths). To the west of these tribes and extending over a large area of the Rhine were the Vandals, Lombards, Alemanni, Burgundians, and Franks. and by 400 CE there were more of them than there were Romans and the rest is history.
I sure hope those damn Canadians don't head south! We have enough of them already during our Winter months.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159774 Jun 15, 2013
Hummm, this article did not mention Gov. Sarah Palin or Gov. Rick Perry who also spoke there. I wonder how come? Oh, the article was written by AP and the AP hates true conservatives!!!
Rogue

Religious conservatives asked to back GOP plans
By STEVE PEOPLES | Associated Press – 1 hr 1 min ago

http://news.yahoo.com/religious-conservatives...
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159775 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Ishmael was the illegitimate son of Abraham and his wofe's slave whom he conceived upon coaching from his wife who was barren, but abandoned to die in the desert with his mother when the so-called barren wife gave birth to Isaac...the first attempted murder by the father of us all, Abraham, the second being the attempted murder of his other son, Isaac. Keep going...And if what the writers of God's words insist that Ishmael is the creator of Moslems, that would fight the Jews, who can blame him?
The above is written is a Sunday school manner so you and others can understand. If you want references, I shall get them for you.
I can tell you have knowledge of scriptures but you misinterpret the true meanings and the overall conclusions.

It all comes down to one thing, You either obey GOD or disobey GOD.

You seem to blame GOD instead of sinners saved by GODs Grace.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159776 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, the need a bigger facility because Obama wants to collect even more data on private citizens that he has already been doing. Plus he needs to computer capacity to filter all of that new data!
At what point does that attack our civil rights?
Apparently January 20, 2009, according to Rouge. Everything was hunky-dory until Dubya rode off into the sunset.

"Because Obama wants ...." Of course Rouge cannot back that up. NSA data collection has been steadily increasing for over a decade, but it's all about what Obama wants?

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical Rouge, thinks an expiring law that was extended in 2011 has something to do with NSA activities reported in April 2009. BTW, those activities were REPORTED in 2009 in the New York Times. In Rouge's infantile mind, that means NSA over-collection BEGAN in April 2009 and was specifically ordered by Obama himself.
"The legal and operational problems surrounding the N.S.A.’s surveillance activities have come under scrutiny from the Obama administration, Congressional intelligence committees and a secret national security court, said the intelligence officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because N.S.A. activities are classified."
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159777 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, the need a bigger facility because Obama wants to collect even more data on private citizens that he has already been doing. Plus he needs to computer capacity to filter all of that new data!
At what point does that attack our civil rights?
Fox News Republican Propaganda Channel loved the Police State when Bush and Cheney were in charge.

=========

AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein to Senate: "they’re doing a huge, massive domestic dragnet on everybody in the United States"
http://www.correntewire.com/at_t_whistleblowe...

AT&T Whistleblower Speaks Out Against Retroactive Immunity


AT&T Whistleblower: Spy Bill Creates 'Infrastructure for a Police State'
Mark Klein, the retired AT&T engineer who stepped forward with the technical documents at the heart of the anti-wiretapping case against AT&T, is furious at the Senate's vote on Wednesday night to hold a vote on a bill intended to put an end to that lawsuit and more than 30 others.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/att-...

Whistleblower Mark Klein
Mark Klein alleges that AT&T cooperated with the National Security Agency in 2003 to install equipment capable of eavesdropping on the public's e-mail messages and other Internet traffic. He worked for AT&T as a technician for over 22 years, first in New York and then in California, before leaving the company in 2004
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/307/mark-klein.h...

AT&T Whistleblower Urges Against Immunity for Telecoms in Bush Spy Program / July 07, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/7m7s6q
The Senate is expected to vote on a controversial measure to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act tomorrow. The legislation would rewrite the nation’s surveillance laws and authorize the National Security Agency’s secret program of warrantless wiretapping. We speak with Mark Klein, a technician with AT&T for over twenty-two years. In 2006 Klein leaked internal AT&T documents that revealed the company had set up a secret room in its San Francisco office to give the National Security Agency access to its fiber optic internet cables.
http://i4.democracynow.org/2008/7/7/att_t_whi...

AT&T U-Verse plans for Public Access Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Mark Klein on Washington Journal
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

A Reason interview with NSA whistleblower Russell Tice
http://tinyurl.com/2jtgsc / January 13, 2006

In December, New York Times reporters James Risen and Eric Lichtblau commandeered the news cycle with the revelation that President Bush had approved a program of warrantless wiretaps of domestic-to-international communications by the super-secretive National Security Agency. Days later, they disclosed that the NSA's electronic eavesdropping may have been far more extensive than initial reports suggested, involving the harvesting of enormous volumes of telecommunications data for analysis.
One of their sources was former NSA insider Russell Tice, who earlier this week told ABC News that the communications of millions of Americans might have been vacuumed up in one of a number of classified NSA programs. "If you picked the word 'jihad' out of a conversation," Tice explained, "the technology exists that you focus in on that conversation, and you pull it out of the system for processing."
http://www.reason.com/news/show/33016.html
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159779 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't make your point, and you still haven't. Evolution is driven by natural selection forces, which are not random, but rather a consequence of complexity in the universe. Humans filled an evolutionary niche that was available. In that respect, the evolution of intelligence is not at all improbable when compared to any other organism at the higher phylogenic levels. Indeed, evolution of intelligent animals is just one example of the general phenomenon of evolution of complexity in the universe, which does not require any supernatural intervention but which is consistent with universal laws of nature.
When nature selects a mutation that had randomly occurred it is not unlike a pharmaceutical drug discovery application of combinatorial chemistry, in which huge libraries of compounds are randomly generated and then those which have some advantage are selected.
The process is not random, but the libraries are randomly generated.
<quoted text>
GOD created evolution.

I see logic in Adam and Eve being apelike hairy HUMANS.

A primate cannot read or write, nor do they possess reasoning and intellect to solve problems.

They do have Animal Instincts and that's it.

========

God's Pharmacy

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159780 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I would rather have Global Warming than Global Cooling as Global Cooling will bring famine, insurrection and war!
The French Revolution started five years after a famine started which was started by ..... volcanic activity in Iceland..... which caused ... Global Cooling!
Yep, 25% of the population of Iceland died following the eruptions of 1783-84.
Laki, Iceland - 1783
http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/education/gase...
Yep, and about 5-10% of the pop of the British Isles died as did 3-5% of French.
The people in Washington DC ought not forget what the Frenchies did to the King and Queen of French either as it might happen to them too!
Ha, ha, Rogue has found the wherewithal of the French Revolution. While every historian and scholar have attributed the French Revolution to starving serfs or vassals, to Kings who robbed the people to build untold numbers of "châteaux" such as Versailles, Le Louvre, Chambord, Chenonceau, Azay le Rideau, Angers and hundreds more, wars that in today's dollars would be in billions, throne successions, etc, well, wow, mope, not that, it's the volcano activity in Iceland that spawned the Revolution. Is there a vacant history chair at La Sorbonne or Oxford or Harvard that you could occupy, Rogue?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159781 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical birfoon, when confronted with facts and evidence, his non-rebuttal is "go look it up." The impotent little twerp folds when his cards are called.
There is no evidence for the biblical rains that allegedly caused immersion of the entire effing world and destruction of all creatures save for those collected by Noah on his warp speed yacht.
Not only is there no evidence for such a flood, it could not have possibly happened. Again, have you ever heard of the water cycle? Where did all that water come from to immerse the earth, and where did it go? God had a great big celestial fire hose and wet vac?
When you find the link to the wet vac, let me know, OK?
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Ya know, they would not be on this forum unless they were worried!
I'm worried about a mythical story of Noah and the ark?

Pray tell, why? Why on earth should I be worried about a fable?

Now which is less credible, Noah saving all the animals of the world on his warp-speed yacht or Obama born in Kenya and smuggled back into the US by his college student teenage mother with a Hogwarts invisibility cloak? Which should I be worried about? Eh?

Still waiting for Rougie's explanation of item 23. Now just what [allegedly deleted] comments could negate both Dr. Sinclair's and Ann Dunham's signatures on the BC indicating Kenyan birth.

Rougie, you opened the door, and I'm closing it because your a wimp with no explanation but with a big mouth. So put your tail between your legs and run away little boy. We know you have no coherent theory to back up your item 23 fantasy.

"Duh! The doctor lied and it was really Ann Dunham's evil twin who signed the BC in the Hospital for her child who was born on the same day Ann was giving birth to Barack Obama in KENYA."

C'mon MORON. How do you explain a HOSPITAL BIRTH SIGNED FOR BY THE DELIVERING PHYSICIAN AS A SILLY LITTLE MISTAKE corrected in item 23?

C'mon MORON.
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Remain ignorant on the subject then. That is your right. Still going with the cheap and petty name-calling, huh? Go for it, it fits you well.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159782 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, the need a bigger facility because Obama wants to collect even more data on private citizens that he has already been doing. Plus he needs to computer capacity to filter all of that new data!
At what point does that attack our civil rights?
The Republican party was against Clinton for wiretapping al Qaeda.

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COMPREHENSIVE ANTITERRORISM ACT OF 1995
http://tinyurl.com/ys56o4

Congressional Record: April 18, 1996 (House)- Pages H3605-H3618 Government Printing Office's Online Records: DOCID:cr18ap96-43

Conference Report on s. 735, Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996
Dan Burton (R-Ind): If the Government of the United States can through, quote-unquote, good faith tap our phones and intrude into our lives, they violate our constitutional liberties, and that is something that we should not tolerate, and that is in section 305 and section 307. The FBI can gain access to individual phone billing records without a subpoena or a court order. Once again I believe that infringes upon our constitutional rights and liberties, and while we are trying to deal with terrorism, and we should, we should not violate our constitutional rights and liberties, and I believe this bill in its present form does. And that is why I think the Barr amendment is absolutely essential if we are going to pass something that will really deal with terrorism crime, but protect the liberties that we fought so hard for in the Revolutionary War.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

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TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT--CONFERENCE REPORT
http://tinyurl.com/2lj3t8

Congressional Record: April 17, 1996 (Senate)- Pages S3454-S3478 DOCID:cr17ap96-153

Terrorism prevention Act--Conference Report

Orrin Hatch: Mr. President, again, in the real world, in the case of the Unabomber or a terrorist where there is a real threat or an immediate concern, you do not need this provision to get an emergency wiretap. All the Senator's motion does is expand the number of crimes that would trigger the wiretap statute. This amendment was offered during the Senate debate. It was defeated. It was not a part of the Senate bill. It was not a part of the House bill. It is not a part of our conference report, and rightly so. I oppose this provision that could expand emergency wiretap authority to permit the Government to begin a wiretap prior to obtaining court approval in a greater range of cases than the law presently allows. I personally find this proposal troubling. I am concerned that this provision, if enacted, would unnecessarily broaden emergency wiretap authority. Under current law, such authority exists when life is in danger, when the national security is threatened, or when an organized crime conspiracy is involved. In the real world, we do not need this amendment to get emergency wiretap authority, and that is a fact.
Let me also say that this authority is constrained by a requirement that surveillance be approved by the Court within 48 hours, but that authority already exists in those areas I have addressed.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

Clinton PDD 63
http://tinyurl.com/cvuom

For Immediate Release May 22, 1998 FACT SHEET PROTECTING AMERICA'S
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES: PDD 63
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd-63.htm

Clinton PDD 62
http://tinyurl.com/bze57

COMBATING TERRORISM: PRESIDENTIAL DECISION DIRECTIVE 62
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ciao/62fa...

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