BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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The fifth section details something very important, it reads

Section 5 –“The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”

Article 1, Section 8 enumerated the powers Congress has. The only power Congress has over citizenship is found here. It reads,

“To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;”

To make the freed slaves citizens, naturalization was the only power the 14th Amendment granted Congress to use. Look it up in the Constitution. Congress had no intention and no authority to making everyone born under the 14th Amendment “a natural born citizen.” This is born out by Congressional records regarding the debate of the Fourteenth Amendment. By the chief architect of Section 1 of this amendment.

“I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further, that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, and not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States.” John A. Bingham,(R-Ohio) US Congressman, Architect of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866), Cf. U.S. Const. XIVth Amend.

There is no doubt that anyone born under the 14th Amendment who is not subject is a “naturalized citizen,” or just “a citizen,” as the Amendment states. They are not natural born citizens.

To further understand why this is so, is to look at the first clause carefully.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

The words “born or naturalized” are joined with the conjunction “or,” and logically an or implies either of the two are equal. What they are equal in is being a citizen. Not “a natural born citizen.” This expressly negates the idea that simple birth of a person who is “subject to the jurisdiction” confers the coveted “natural born” status. If the term “citizen” did in fact convey a “natural born” status, then who were naturalized would be considered “natural born.”
Obviously, this is not the case, as it would mean that people like Kissinger, Albright and Schwarzenegger could run for office. Clearly, the Fourteenth Amendment is not conferring “natural born” status on anyone,... and bestows the coveted “natural born citizen” title to the children of citizens, while affirming simple citizenship to the children born to aliens. <<--<<<

As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens. A natural born citizen is not the child of an alien. In this there is no doubt. The question now that we seek answered is that Barack Hussein Obama, II is both the child of an alien who never had any intention on becoming a naturalized citizen and the child of a citizen minor.

If Barack Hussein Obama, II was in fact born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under Jus soli and afforded all rights any citizen has.

But he is not a citizen under Jus sanguinis, because we have laws that dictate how Jus sanguinis citizenship can be transferred.

If Barack Hussein Obama, II cannot claim citizenship under Jus sanguinis then he is not a natural born citizen.

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There three ways for a person claim citizenship, what most of us think of first is called Jus soli,“the right of the soil,” which is the physical location your place of birth.

The second is what is called Jus sanguinis,“the right of blood,” which you inherit from your parents.

The third is a combination of Jus soli and Jus sanguinis, and it is this combination that determines if one is a natural born citizen.

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Linktv org wrote:
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JESUS was not just a prophet HE IS GOD and HUMAN.
You cannot have it both ways.
JESUS was either a NUT or He really was GOD's only SON.
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1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Did Jesus not write anything of his own? Of course he didn’t. What you post are quotes from the gospel according to John (whoever he was) which differs from that according to Matthew, Mark and Luke (whoever they were)

Jesus if he existed at all certainly had some nutty ideas and for that he was obviously crucified; and since no one has established the existence of any gods it would be a bit premature to commence burdening them with sacrificial sons already.

Surely you can understand why the primitive notion of human sacrifice would be totally repugnant to the enlightened mind can you not? Of course you can’t. Some would say, Lord help us if the Christians ever seize control. LOL………

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Justice LRS wrote:
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What made you such a bitter and angry soul?
Well, how about my copying your language? It's YOUR dumbazzbastard, not mine. I don't talk like that.

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And human chromosome 2 resulted from a fusion of chromosomes 12 and 13 of an ancestor. Indeed, chimp chromosomes 12 & 13 if stitched together would have the same genes in the same arrangement as the human. Chromosomes fusions are well known in genetics, and mechanisms elucidated.
you're educating me and I don't mind at all. Er, hmmm, think you've lost the birthers, particularly Justice ha ha LRS and Rogue OMG Scholar.
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Please DO NOT any longer WASTE yours ... then ...
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Alexander Hamilton
Following the American Revolution, Hamilton studied law under James Duane. Hamilton qualified to practice law in record time. Duane schooled Hamilton in the natural law of Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss proponent of the Leibniz.[Vattel's Law of Nation's
Hamilton played a crucial role in convincing the population of the new American republic of the necessity to call a Constitutional Convention to establish a new Constitution, because the government of the Articles of Confederation was not functioning.
http://east_west_dialogue.trip od.com/vattel/id5.html
Minor v. Happersett
Happersett, 88 U.S. at 167; paraphrasing Emerich de Vattel, The Law of Nations,*book I, chapter XIX, section 212.^ Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. at 168. "For the ...
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*book I, chapter XIX, section 212.
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages.
The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. <<--<<<
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it.
The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born.
I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
http://constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm
I’m I missing something here AL? The guy I voted for is president and will have been when he finishes his term for eight years. The nonsense you proffer was a loser from the gate and to date only resonates within the caves of the ignorant birfoon.

What’s amazing is how you can actually see that your folly has gotten you absolutely nowhere yet can still somehow seriously believe imminent victory is just around the corner. Your silly pronouncements never has and never will be true and the sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be

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Oh this is funny!

Hannity Then and Now on NSA Surveillance
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I’m I missing something here AL? The guy I voted for is president and will have been when he finishes his term for eight years. The nonsense you proffer was a loser from the gate and to date only resonates within the caves of the ignorant birfoon.
What’s amazing is how you can actually see that your folly has gotten you absolutely nowhere yet can still somehow seriously believe imminent victory is just around the corner. Your silly pronouncements never has and never will be true and the sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be
he is a FRAUD!
more ways than one!

Fraud got obama and clinton on ballot in 2008
About 2,850,000 results

Dem Officials Convicted of Fraud in Getting Obama, Clinton on 2008
[http://www.breitbart.com/Big- Government/2013/04/26/Obama-An d-Hillary-Both-Got-On-Indiana- 2008-Primary-Ballot-Fraudulent ly]
Apr 26, 2013 – In 2008, both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton got on the ballot illegally in the presidential primary in Indiana. On Thursday, two Democratic ...

https://www.google.com/search...

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AFRAID OF BEING HIT BETWEEN THE EYES WITH A 2x4?
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DNA analysis of genetic diversity in the human genome has disproved the idea of a single mating pair as founder population. Sorry. Meanwhile there are so many independent molecular genetic examples, for example the GULO pseudogene that establish a common ancestor of the human and chimp. Mutated alu elements in the GULO pseudogene are in the same positions in both species. Either God is a divine merry prankster or you believe a person can reasonably expect to win powerball 100 times in succession. The science is unequivocal.
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And many scientists are mad. This entire Universe was a mere accident, huh? There are no coincidences. You'd be wise to take that to heart. So where is the missing link? For all any of us know, evolution may be nothing more than part of the divine plan.
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Did Jesus not write anything of his own? Of course he didn’t. What you post are quotes from the gospel according to John (whoever he was) which differs from that according to Matthew, Mark and Luke (whoever they were)
Jesus if he existed at all certainly had some nutty ideas and for that he was obviously crucified; and since no one has established the existence of any gods it would be a bit premature to commence burdening them with sacrificial sons already.
Surely you can understand why the primitive notion of human sacrifice would be totally repugnant to the enlightened mind can you not? Of course you can’t. Some would say, Lord help us if the Christians ever seize control. LOL………
What a screwed up bunch of garbage.
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Well, how about my copying your language? It's YOUR dumbazzbastard, not mine. I don't talk like that.
How does that in any way, shape or form begin to answer the question?
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Question : You're stranded on a deserted island. A genie tells you that you can have one companion and he/she can be conservative OR liberal. You're gonna have to live with him/her the rest of your life. Frankly now, who shall it be?
One of the opposite sex!

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Oh this is funny!
Hannity Then and Now on NSA Surveillance
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The only problem was that that law EXPIRED in 2011 and was replaced by a highly modified version by the same name which signed into law by ... Obama.
just because the new law has the same name as the old law, doesn't mean it is the same.

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Now Poopo, how about this?
In 2006 75% of Republicans approved NSA surveillance program but only 37% of the Democrats did.
But now only 52% of Republicans do while 64% of Democrats do.
That is a net change of -23% for Republican but a +27 for Democrats which would imply that Democrats are more partisan than Republicans are.
Oh, so called Independents went from 44% to 53% for but most Independents are ... Liberals.

Majority Views NSA Phone Tracking as Acceptable Anti-terror Tactic June 10, 2013
http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-1...

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Is this an issue? Really, is this an issue. She went to the Paris Air Show in 2011 and the London Air Show last year, does she really NEED to go to the Paris Air Show again?
I mean, they are BIG events with the London show on even years and the Paris on odd years and the are THE air shows!
I have been to the Paris Air Show in 1987. We went on a bus with our wives. The bus dropped us guys off at the airport and then took our wives shopping in ... Paris! Does anyone want to guess which group spent more Money?!?
Rogue

SC sending 16 people to air show; Haley not going
16-person SC delegation attending Paris Air Show does not include Gov. Haley this year

By Seanna Adcox, Associated Press | Associated Press – 14 hrs ago
It marks the first time the Republican governor has not been part of the state's delegation at an international air show since she took office.
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Ed Snowden voted for Obama..... twice!
No, this article quotes him he voted for a third party! He sounds like he maybe a Libertarian?
Rogue

Edward Snowden: I mistakenly believed in Obama’s promises
June 9, 2013

Edward Snowden, the self-revealed whistle-blower at the National Security Agency, explains that part of the reason he decided to come forward was because President Obama did not roll back the surveillance measures put into place by the Bush Administration.

“A lot of people in 2008 voted for Obama. I did not vote for him. I voted for a third party,” Snowden said in an interview with the Guardian.“But I believed in Obama’s promises. I was going to disclose it [but waited because of his election]. He continued with the policies of his predecessor.”

Snowden acknowledged that he watched Obama struggle as he attempted to justify the surveillance programs during his press conference on Friday.

“My immediate reaction was he was having difficulty in defending it himself,” Snowden said about Obama.“He was trying to defend the unjustifiable and he knew it.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/edward-snowden-...

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Barack Obama = War President

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You know Jacques, John McCain set a very poor example again when he entered Syria illegally and under the cloak of secrecy.
Length of his stay is irrelevant. He crossed the border illegally.

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Jacques,
You do know that Syria is also known as the Levant, yes?
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