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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159686 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said before, it is the message that is important, not the individual words and phrases. Yes, I have read the Bible, though it has been many years. What I am talking about is the message as a whole. You seem to want to nitpick about phrases and individual words. I don't need to justify anything. I asked you a question earlier about knowing a junkie, did you answer it?
I've known a few junkies, worked with them at the Shepherds of Good Hope here in Ottawa. Not a big deal, certanly not boasting, a lot of people do that much better and devotedly than I did. It's a weird and very discouraging world, but it helps to discover the whys and whens and wheres of those people. Most will never recover, it's like pedophilia, the specialists say, you just don't dump it.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159687 Jun 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A man or woman who does not 'believe' yet lives a good and decent life will not be forgiven? Forgiven what? Forgiven the guilt of a mythical 'sin' committed by a mythical 'first' man who was one half of the mythical first mating pair of humans?
Even the eminent theologian Joseph Ratzinger, later Pope Benedict XVI, admitted that the greatest challenge facing modern theologians is the concept of 'original sin'. The fact that man evolved puts a "monkey wrench" in the original sin theory as described in Genesis.(pun intended)
Thousands of humans, the founding population, who evolved from a common ancestral population of primates, need a Divine Savior in human form to die for them lest they all be condemned to burn eternally? Now who committed this 'original sin' among a population of thousands that condemned all his brethren? God selected one to stand for all the others? If your brother-in-law commits a crime you are guilty?
And if there is intelligent life beyond the Earth, do they need a savior?
Sorry, Ratzinger and other theologians understand that there is a real f------ problem.
The whole mess depends upon a literal reading of the Adam and Eve story, which has been proven FALSE.
<quoted text>
The Bible has never been proven false.

The Bible pulsates with LIFE and is NOT a dead book.

I hope you do know the difference between the Probability of a apelike human and a primate.

Big Difference.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159688 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I won't knock the living S out of ya. As I have said, I fire back. Why no mention of GB's comment to me out of the blue? Double standard?
I was surprised by GB's comments, well, thought they were wojar's. But hell, he was not even 10% as profane as you even in your mildest vocabulary.

As to knocking the living S out of me, would you care to say why you'd do that? Have I ever threatened you, ever spoken harshly or used profanity on you? Tell me, why'd you want to do that?
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159689 Jun 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You did type that out very clearly and replied that MAN wrote the bible, not God. So, what you actually meant was I'll take the word of man over the word of any man.""
GODs Holy Spirit wrote the Scriptures through humans.

------

2 Timothy 3:16-17

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159690 Jun 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct. So? Did you see the floods in Europe at the moment? In ancient times, with no means to evacuate, set up temporary lodging and soup kitchens, these floods would have killed 100 times more people.
Tell us about the great flood, and Noah, LRS. And answer some simple questions, all based on the Bible, I've invented zilch. God decided that he made a mistake creating man (it's in the bible and tell me how God can err) and wiped out the whole world except Noah. Why, because the whole world was sinful, bad. So everyone died because they were ALL bad. All bad, LRS? the newborns, children up to puberty, old men and women, they were ALL bad and deserved to drown? Unless there were no babies and children, I suppose, and no old and often demented people. Can you explain why babies, children, etc got punished? What'd they do?
Thank you! Sorry, but I'm not on this Earth to answer your questions. Try asking God.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159691 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is your post:
Yes, he agreed he was the Son of God. But, aren't we all? And to prove we are all sons of God (religious misogynous evangelists only use "son", not "daughters btw) He never ever said he was God. And, won't we all sit at the right of God? That statement to the High Priest is to say the least, very ambiguous. Any others where Jesus said he was God. And "Messiah" means "anointed one", not God.
Now, does your post say we are all the son of God or not? Yes, it does.
Yes, sons and/or children. What's the difference. And daughters. I am the son of my parents AND their child, as are my brothers and sisters.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159692 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
That was the second time I typed it very clearly. Sorry if you can't understand.
You typed it clearly twice that Noah saved every creature from Australia? And the various Siberian land species as well as North America? Wow! Did he have an ark-hydrofoil? Was it nuclear powered?
wojar wrote:
So you'll take the word that Noah saved every marsupial from Australia on his Ark?

MORON. Did he have assistance from Santa's helpers? Elf?
<quoted text>
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159693 Jun 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
That still doesn't say much for misanthropic and hateful believers, now does it?
<quoted text>
Yes, I am in agreement with you.

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Matthew 7:21-23

True and False Disciples

21 “Not everyone who says to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly,‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159694 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever read the book, "Heaven Is For Real"?
Have you ever read the book, "Stupid is Pathetic"?

[QUOTE "who=wojar"]
<quoted text>
If the 6000 year-old Earth was stated in the bible, please show it. If not, then it's not there. Not a yes or no answer?
The **conclusion** that the Earth is ~6000 years old is a conclusion that was reached by men, and stated by men. Now even if God "told you" that the earth is 6000 years old it would still be a yes or no question.
You're a coward. A dishonest coward. Either it is a yes or no question or it isn't. It "may not be a yes or no question" is a stupid hallucination. RU on drugs?
If it's not a yes or no question, why not? Dumbass.
<quoted text>
[/QUOTE]

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159695 Jun 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible has never been proven false.
The Bible pulsates with LIFE and is NOT a dead book.
I hope you do know the difference between the Probability of a apelike human and a primate.
Big Difference.
I'm sorry, insofar as the biological aspects of the bible are concerned, it flunks science.

"I hope you do know the difference between the Probability of a apelike human and a primate."

That is a coherent remark? What about the difference between the probability of a rat and a salamander? Or a bird and a dinosaur?

"Between the probability of"? RU on drugs?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
A man or woman who does not 'believe' yet lives a good and decent life will not be forgiven? Forgiven what? Forgiven the guilt of a mythical 'sin' committed by a mythical 'first' man who was one half of the mythical first mating pair of humans?
Even the eminent theologian Joseph Ratzinger, later Pope Benedict XVI, admitted that the greatest challenge facing modern theologians is the concept of 'original sin'. The fact that man evolved puts a "monkey wrench" in the original sin theory as described in Genesis.(pun intended)
Thousands of humans, the founding population, who evolved from a common ancestral population of primates, need a Divine Savior in human form to die for them lest they all be condemned to burn eternally? Now who committed this 'original sin' among a population of thousands that condemned all his brethren? God selected one to stand for all the others? If your brother-in-law commits a crime you are guilty?
And if there is intelligent life beyond the Earth, do they need a savior?
Sorry, Ratzinger and other theologians understand that there is a real f------ problem.
The whole mess depends upon a literal reading of the Adam and Eve story, which has been proven FALSE.
<quoted text>
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159696 Jun 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I've known a few junkies, worked with them at the Shepherds of Good Hope here in Ottawa. Not a big deal, certanly not boasting, a lot of people do that much better and devotedly than I did. It's a weird and very discouraging world, but it helps to discover the whys and whens and wheres of those people. Most will never recover, it's like pedophilia, the specialists say, you just don't dump it.
You're exactly right. How would you explain a junkie who woke up one day and simply no longer had the desire to use? The desire was simply gone. There's no explanation for it that I know of. How does this happen? In meetings we called it a "Burning Bush Experience". Not many had it happen to them, just a few. Why?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159698 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS"]
<quoted text>
That was the second time I typed it very clearly. Sorry if you can't understand.
Rest assured, if Noah could not capture every creature on earth before the flood in his hydrofoil yacht/ark, Santa's helpers would have provided assistance. If they failed, then God could simply have SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATED all the missing species since creationists believe that's what he originally did.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#159699 Jun 14, 2013
On the other hand, if he could have SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATED THE SPECIES, WTF was the point of the ark? Eh?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159700 Jun 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I was surprised by GB's comments, well, thought they were wojar's. But hell, he was not even 10% as profane as you even in your mildest vocabulary.
As to knocking the living S out of me, would you care to say why you'd do that? Have I ever threatened you, ever spoken harshly or used profanity on you? Tell me, why'd you want to do that?
The "you" in my post wasn't directed at you. It wasn't referring to anyone in particular.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159701 Jun 14, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Rest assured, if Noah could not capture every creature on earth before the flood in his hydrofoil yacht/ark, Santa's helpers would have provided assistance. If they failed, then God could simply have SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATED all the missing species since creationists believe that's what he originally did.
All I'm saying is that there is geological evidence to support "the" great flood.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159702 Jun 14, 2013
Hmmm, no arguing and they disappear. Whatever, off to the store.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#159703 Jun 14, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
I'll take the word of the Bible over the word of man everytime.
Which bible are you talking about?
The Lutheran bible has 66 books
The catholic bible has 73 books

The Protestant Bible has Books of the Apocrypha while others don't.
I could go on.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#159704 Jun 14, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, I don't think God got bored some 6,000 years, or 6.5 billion years ago, and created the Universe. I think He has been doing this from infinity and will continue to reinvent everything.
I suppose the are endless numbers of "Earths" similar to our whith intelligent human like creatures but I do not believe they have visited our Earth and probably never will.
I must disagree with you and them visiting Earth. The two i saw up close was not from this world.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#159705 Jun 14, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
Arrest Obama Under NDAA For Supporting Terrorists in Syria
http://www.infowars.com/detain-obama-under-nd...
Secret Service to outspoken Obama critic: We'll come for your guns; Media silent
http://www.examiner.com/article/secret-servic...
Fed Up
Alex Jones is a mental unblanced nut. Who's whacked out theories and full of B.S
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159706 Jun 14, 2013
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
Which bible are you talking about?
The Lutheran bible has 66 books
The catholic bible has 73 books
The Protestant Bible has Books of the Apocrypha while others don't.
I could go on.
The "Holy" Bible.

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