BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Jan 8, 2009, Chicago Tribune story titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#159714 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Now Poopo, how about this?
In 2006 75% of Republicans approved NSA surveillance program but only 37% of the Democrats did.
But now only 52% of Republicans do while 64% of Democrats do.
That is a net change of -23% for Republican but a +27 for Democrats which would imply that Democrats are more partisan than Republicans are.
Oh, so called Independents went from 44% to 53% for but most Independents are ... Liberals.
Majority Views NSA Phone Tracking as Acceptable Anti-terror Tactic June 10, 2013
http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-1...
I have a smart phone and an internet connection Rogue so I’ve never had any illusions about being secure.

Remember this guy?

“By 1960, the FBI had open,“subversive” files on some 432,000 Americans. Hoover deemed the most sensitive files as “personal and confidential” and kept them in his office, where his secretary, Helen Gandy, could watch them. Today, with few exceptions, Hoover’s FBI files are open for any American to see at the National Archives. They make fascinating reading and paint a stark portrait of power run amok”
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-11-09...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#159716 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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The man's just a plain hypocrite and fool. His birther followers are just plain fools, never mind hypocrites.
"I worked at ABC Radio with Sean {Hannity}," Bey told host Ricky Camilleri. "He doesn't know anything about history. He knows what they give him on the talking points."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/rich...

I believe you’re giving Hannity too much credit. It appears if Fox wants Hannity’s opinion they’ll give it to him.

Since: May 10

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#159717 Jun 15, 2013
nebka wrote:
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Fed Up
Alex Jones is a mental unblanced nut. Who's whacked out theories and full of B.S
And you are mentally balanced?

Since: May 10

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#159718 Jun 15, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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"I worked at ABC Radio with Sean {Hannity}," Bey told host Ricky Camilleri. "He doesn't know anything about history. He knows what they give him on the talking points."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/rich...
I believe you’re giving Hannity too much credit. It appears if Fox wants Hannity’s opinion they’ll give it to him.
Bey is an unknown left-wing radio talk show host and just because he worked at ABC radio the same time Sean Hannity was, what he says about Sean is an informed opinion???
I had never heard of Richard Bey before. I wonder what is his listenership as compared to Hannity's?

Hummmm Richard Bey Show ratings are ....- from "Jenny Jones" and "Ricki Lake" at the high end of the ratings list to "Rolonda" and "Richard Bey" at the bottom
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/20/arts/fallin...

No wonder I have never heard of him! Only some loony-tooney-lefties would bother watching him.

Since: May 10

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#159719 Jun 15, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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I have a smart phone and an internet connection Rogue so I’ve never had any illusions about being secure.
Remember this guy?
“By 1960, the FBI had open,“subversive” files on some 432,000 Americans. Hoover deemed the most sensitive files as “personal and confidential” and kept them in his office, where his secretary, Helen Gandy, could watch them. Today, with few exceptions, Hoover’s FBI files are open for any American to see at the National Archives. They make fascinating reading and paint a stark portrait of power run amok”
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-11-09...
AGAIN, who appointed Hoover? FDR! Enough said!!!

Since: May 10

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#159720 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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The only problem was that that law EXPIRED in 2011 and was replaced by a highly modified version by the same name which signed into law by ... Obama.
just because the new law has the same name as the old law, doesn't mean it is the same.
Poppo wrote:
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You’re as funny as Hannity Rogue, but at least the only thing that changed Hannity’s opinion is who happens to be running the show. The show itself hadn’t changed a line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Again you equate what Obama is doing with what happened when Bush was president and two things have changed. One is the law itself has changed and the other is how it is carried out.
I have no problem with them keeping my phone number but I do have a big problem with them even having my emails, credit card info, etc. and this part did not happen until Obama entered the White House.
How about the NSA Utah Data Center. Just who started it? Who was the president in April 2009? STOP BLAMING BUSH!!!

Utah Data Center
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In April 2009, officials at the United States Department of Justice acknowledged that the NSA had engaged in large-scale "overcollection" of domestic communications in excess of the federal intelligence court's authority, but claimed that the acts were unintentional and had since been rectified.

Since: May 10

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#159721 Jun 15, 2013
Stop blaming BUSH! If it was bad under Bush, why is Obama expanding his programs instead of shutting them down?!?
Sooner or later Obama has to own up for HIS mistakes!

Since: May 10

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#159722 Jun 15, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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The "Holy" Bible.
Repeatedly the Catholic Bible is the most complete and has the most accurate translations from the original texts. The original texts include Latin and Greek form the New Testament while most of the Old Testament was in Hebrew and Aramaic.
And it is the Catholic Bible that contains the apocryphal books which the Catholic Church itself has questions about.
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Originally Posted by Gracie Love
Why is it that we (as Christians) automatically rule out these texts?
I don't mean this in a rude way, but I'm honestly not sure why non-Catholics don't ever consider other books outside the canon.

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Originally Posted by Gracie Love
Why do Catholics and Protestants both rule out the other gospels?
Catholics do because they have not been a part of the canon since the early Church. Catholics accept the authoritative canon set down by early Church councils.

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Originally Posted by Gracie Love
And why do we except what a group of "holy men" said was supposed to be in the Bible?
If you want to come up with you're own canon I suppose you could claim the authority to do so. I mean, as far as I know this is what Martin Luther did, going with a canon that was rejected by the early Church and beyond, until him that is.

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And How did it come about that the protestants don't accept acrophilia? Who decided?
I'm not sure why they don't. It's been in the canon since the canon was determined. Luther went with a different one, one that was set up by the Jews that happened to be enemies with Jesus and His followers.
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http://crownofmartyrs.xphpbb.com
Nazrat

Mcdonough, GA

#159723 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, I don't think God got bored some 6,000 years, or 6.5 billion years ago, and created the Universe. I think He has been doing this from infinity and will continue to reinvent everything.
I suppose the are endless numbers of "Earths" similar to our whith intelligent human like creatures but I do not believe they have visited our Earth and probably never will.
nebka wrote:
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I must disagree with you and them visiting Earth. The two i saw up close was not from this world.
Oh, like wow, man. Did they have big eyes but no mouth or nose? What color where they? Did they wear cloths? And how did they communicate with you?

Since: May 10

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#159724 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
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GOD is Love.
At the last day JESUS will judge the hearts and minds of all humankind fairly.
wojar wrote:
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That still doesn't say much for misanthropic and hateful believers, now does it?
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Like whom are you talking about? The Occutards?!? The trade unionist that did $3.5 million dollars damage to Minnesota's state capitol building?

Since: May 10

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#159725 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
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The Bible has never been proven false.
The Bible pulsates with LIFE and is NOT a dead book.
I hope you do know the difference between the Probability of a apelike human and a primate.
Big Difference.
About a third of our world's population are Christians and who try to follow The Book while only 2% are godless atheists and who are lost in space and most of which are sexual deviants.
truman

Boise, ID

#159728 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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About a third of our world's population are Christians and who try to follow The Book while only 2% are godless atheists and who are lost in space and most of which are sexual deviants.
Well there are Christians who provide an example by LIVING their principals and following the Teaching of Jesus.
Then their are those Braying Tea Baggers who missed the scripture about trying to serve Two Masters so have NO problem worshipping at the Alter of FOX with Limbaugh and Beck and Bachman as their Patron Saints.
The ones where it is OBVIOUS by their own words that they HATE Obama FAAAAAR more then they love Jesus Christ.
Of course to be fair they cant discern between Reality and Wishful Thinking so why should anyone expect them to discern between Gospel and Koch Propaganda?
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159730 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
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I'm sorry, insofar as the biological aspects of the bible are concerned, it flunks science.
"I hope you do know the difference between the Probability of a apelike human and a primate."
That is a coherent remark? What about the difference between the probability of a rat and a salamander? Or a bird and a dinosaur?
"Between the probability of"? RU on drugs?
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You totally missed my point.

The difference is reasoning and intellect.

Adam and Eve had that and the primates don't.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159731 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
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GOD gave Adam and Eve free choice and that would apply to all humankind.
Could you imagine if all humans were loving and forgiving just like JESUS?
Would that not be the fulfillment of what God intended in the first place? It's why he supposedly created us in His own image? What happened? Did He push the wrong buttons? We've been at war and killing each other right from the start, from day ONE, from Adam and Eve and their warring sons, Abel and Cain.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159733 Jun 15, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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The "you" in my post wasn't directed at you. It wasn't referring to anyone in particular.
Oh no? You threatened me, not the first time and you flunked your reply. At least you have improved, this time it wasn't threat of death.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159734 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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About a third of our world's population are Christians and who try to follow The Book while only 2% are godless atheists and who are lost in space and most of which are sexual deviants.
Pedophilia have very little to do with atheists.

It is a horrific and disgusting behavior (SIN), perpetrated by some Husbands, some Priests, etc. etc.

The less than 1% of Pedophile Priests should have all been defrocked and reported to the authorities.

Same with Husbands/Men should be dealt with in a timely fashion with arrest, trial, and Prison.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#159735 Jun 15, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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All I'm saying is that there is geological evidence to support "the" great flood.
No there isn't. There is evidence that before mountains rose they were part of the sea floor of ancient oceans. That's not a flood, Bozo. It was not possible for flood waters due to rain (per the bible account) to submerge the entire earth. Have you ever heard of the water cycle? Unless God created rain from nothing, flooded the earth and then sucked it up with a giant wet vac, the great flood myth is just that -- a myth. It is estimated that the total water in the world's oceans is about 1.3 x 10^9 km^3.(That's 1.3 billion cubic meters for the scientifically illiterate.) The atmospheric water is about 12900 km^3 (about 0.001%). This means, Bozo, that if one part of the earth is gaining water, another part is losing water. Sea shells in the mountains is not evidence of a great flood, but rather of a great swamp, between the ears of biblical literalists.
wojar wrote:
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Rest assured, if Noah could not capture every creature on earth before the flood in his hydrofoil yacht/ark, Santa's helpers would have provided assistance. If they failed, then God could simply have SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATED all the missing species since creationists believe that's what he originally did.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159736 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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About a third of our world's population are Christians and who try to follow The Book while only 2% are godless atheists and who are lost in space and most of which are sexual deviants.
Sexual deviant? What about ALL of us, according to the Bible,(Genesis for one) who are the end results of Adam and Eve's and progenies' incest? How deviant is that? What about the pedophilia in the Catholic Church that was rampant and covered up by a Pope who had to resign? How deviant is that? How about castration of little boys by the Vatican so they could retain their little angels' voices? How deviant is that? What about David's 500 wives and 500 concubines? How deviant is that? How about Abraham marrying his sister and, to top it off, "renting" her to the Egyptian king? How deviant is that, from the father of us all, to boot? How deviant were the witch hunts, some of which took place not far from where you live, and the "Holy" Inquisition, how deviant was that? How many godless atheists do you see in all of the foregoing?- and I've only mentioned a fraction.

Best you be good now, Rogue, Santa's watching, he'll leave a lump of coal if you remain deviant.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#159737 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Would that not be the fulfillment of what God intended in the first place? It's why he supposedly created us in His own image? What happened? Did He push the wrong buttons? We've been at war and killing each other right from the start, from day ONE, from Adam and Eve and their warring sons, Abel and Cain.
Yes, that is the challenge we all face with free choice.

Good or Evil.

Unfortunately, it seems evil is more prevalent than good sometimes.

All Humans were born to serve GOD and serve one another.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159739 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
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Yes, that is the challenge we all face with free choice.
Good or Evil.
Unfortunately, it seems evil is more prevalent than good sometimes.
All Humans were born to serve GOD and serve one another.
And created in His own image . Was that not enough to at least prevent the FIRST offspring of the FIRST human beings from committing murder? And what happened after only gets better. Do you admit God erred when he created Adam? Even He admitted that he did before unleashing the great flood.

Of course, all of this is made-up fable, but I'm just thrusting the gist of the Bible at you and others to get some answers. None are forthcoming.

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