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Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159779 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't make your point, and you still haven't. Evolution is driven by natural selection forces, which are not random, but rather a consequence of complexity in the universe. Humans filled an evolutionary niche that was available. In that respect, the evolution of intelligence is not at all improbable when compared to any other organism at the higher phylogenic levels. Indeed, evolution of intelligent animals is just one example of the general phenomenon of evolution of complexity in the universe, which does not require any supernatural intervention but which is consistent with universal laws of nature.
When nature selects a mutation that had randomly occurred it is not unlike a pharmaceutical drug discovery application of combinatorial chemistry, in which huge libraries of compounds are randomly generated and then those which have some advantage are selected.
The process is not random, but the libraries are randomly generated.
<quoted text>
GOD created evolution.

I see logic in Adam and Eve being apelike hairy HUMANS.

A primate cannot read or write, nor do they possess reasoning and intellect to solve problems.

They do have Animal Instincts and that's it.

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God's Pharmacy

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159780 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, I would rather have Global Warming than Global Cooling as Global Cooling will bring famine, insurrection and war!
The French Revolution started five years after a famine started which was started by ..... volcanic activity in Iceland..... which caused ... Global Cooling!
Yep, 25% of the population of Iceland died following the eruptions of 1783-84.
Laki, Iceland - 1783
http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/education/gase...
Yep, and about 5-10% of the pop of the British Isles died as did 3-5% of French.
The people in Washington DC ought not forget what the Frenchies did to the King and Queen of French either as it might happen to them too!
Ha, ha, Rogue has found the wherewithal of the French Revolution. While every historian and scholar have attributed the French Revolution to starving serfs or vassals, to Kings who robbed the people to build untold numbers of "châteaux" such as Versailles, Le Louvre, Chambord, Chenonceau, Azay le Rideau, Angers and hundreds more, wars that in today's dollars would be in billions, throne successions, etc, well, wow, mope, not that, it's the volcano activity in Iceland that spawned the Revolution. Is there a vacant history chair at La Sorbonne or Oxford or Harvard that you could occupy, Rogue?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#159781 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical birfoon, when confronted with facts and evidence, his non-rebuttal is "go look it up." The impotent little twerp folds when his cards are called.
There is no evidence for the biblical rains that allegedly caused immersion of the entire effing world and destruction of all creatures save for those collected by Noah on his warp speed yacht.
Not only is there no evidence for such a flood, it could not have possibly happened. Again, have you ever heard of the water cycle? Where did all that water come from to immerse the earth, and where did it go? God had a great big celestial fire hose and wet vac?
When you find the link to the wet vac, let me know, OK?
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Ya know, they would not be on this forum unless they were worried!
I'm worried about a mythical story of Noah and the ark?

Pray tell, why? Why on earth should I be worried about a fable?

Now which is less credible, Noah saving all the animals of the world on his warp-speed yacht or Obama born in Kenya and smuggled back into the US by his college student teenage mother with a Hogwarts invisibility cloak? Which should I be worried about? Eh?

Still waiting for Rougie's explanation of item 23. Now just what [allegedly deleted] comments could negate both Dr. Sinclair's and Ann Dunham's signatures on the BC indicating Kenyan birth.

Rougie, you opened the door, and I'm closing it because your a wimp with no explanation but with a big mouth. So put your tail between your legs and run away little boy. We know you have no coherent theory to back up your item 23 fantasy.

"Duh! The doctor lied and it was really Ann Dunham's evil twin who signed the BC in the Hospital for her child who was born on the same day Ann was giving birth to Barack Obama in KENYA."

C'mon MORON. How do you explain a HOSPITAL BIRTH SIGNED FOR BY THE DELIVERING PHYSICIAN AS A SILLY LITTLE MISTAKE corrected in item 23?

C'mon MORON.
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Remain ignorant on the subject then. That is your right. Still going with the cheap and petty name-calling, huh? Go for it, it fits you well.
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159782 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, the need a bigger facility because Obama wants to collect even more data on private citizens that he has already been doing. Plus he needs to computer capacity to filter all of that new data!
At what point does that attack our civil rights?
The Republican party was against Clinton for wiretapping al Qaeda.

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COMPREHENSIVE ANTITERRORISM ACT OF 1995
http://tinyurl.com/ys56o4

Congressional Record: April 18, 1996 (House)- Pages H3605-H3618 Government Printing Office's Online Records: DOCID:cr18ap96-43

Conference Report on s. 735, Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996
Dan Burton (R-Ind): If the Government of the United States can through, quote-unquote, good faith tap our phones and intrude into our lives, they violate our constitutional liberties, and that is something that we should not tolerate, and that is in section 305 and section 307. The FBI can gain access to individual phone billing records without a subpoena or a court order. Once again I believe that infringes upon our constitutional rights and liberties, and while we are trying to deal with terrorism, and we should, we should not violate our constitutional rights and liberties, and I believe this bill in its present form does. And that is why I think the Barr amendment is absolutely essential if we are going to pass something that will really deal with terrorism crime, but protect the liberties that we fought so hard for in the Revolutionary War.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

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TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT--CONFERENCE REPORT
http://tinyurl.com/2lj3t8

Congressional Record: April 17, 1996 (Senate)- Pages S3454-S3478 DOCID:cr17ap96-153

Terrorism prevention Act--Conference Report

Orrin Hatch: Mr. President, again, in the real world, in the case of the Unabomber or a terrorist where there is a real threat or an immediate concern, you do not need this provision to get an emergency wiretap. All the Senator's motion does is expand the number of crimes that would trigger the wiretap statute. This amendment was offered during the Senate debate. It was defeated. It was not a part of the Senate bill. It was not a part of the House bill. It is not a part of our conference report, and rightly so. I oppose this provision that could expand emergency wiretap authority to permit the Government to begin a wiretap prior to obtaining court approval in a greater range of cases than the law presently allows. I personally find this proposal troubling. I am concerned that this provision, if enacted, would unnecessarily broaden emergency wiretap authority. Under current law, such authority exists when life is in danger, when the national security is threatened, or when an organized crime conspiracy is involved. In the real world, we do not need this amendment to get emergency wiretap authority, and that is a fact.
Let me also say that this authority is constrained by a requirement that surveillance be approved by the Court within 48 hours, but that authority already exists in those areas I have addressed.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...

Clinton PDD 63
http://tinyurl.com/cvuom

For Immediate Release May 22, 1998 FACT SHEET PROTECTING AMERICA'S
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES: PDD 63
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd-63.htm

Clinton PDD 62
http://tinyurl.com/bze57

COMBATING TERRORISM: PRESIDENTIAL DECISION DIRECTIVE 62
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ciao/62fa...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159783 Jun 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, this article did not mention Gov. Sarah Palin or Gov. Rick Perry who also spoke there. I wonder how come? Oh, the article was written by AP and the AP hates true conservatives!!!
Rogue
Religious conservatives asked to back GOP plans
By STEVE PEOPLES | Associated Press – 1 hr 1 min ago
http://news.yahoo.com/religious-conservatives...
Why of why do the Repubs insist on assembling born losers/incompetents - why I saw on the news that Jeb Bush, Palin and front-man Trump spoke at the same event. Why this collective suicide, why ASSURE right here and now the Dems' victory in 2016? LOSERS, trying to outdo the 8-candidate stooges of 2012.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#159784 Jun 15, 2013
correction "because you're a wimp ..."

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159785 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
I can tell you have knowledge of scriptures but you misinterpret the true meanings and the overall conclusions.
It all comes down to one thing, You either obey GOD or disobey GOD.
You seem to blame GOD instead of sinners saved by GODs Grace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tMy_w5HsfdIXX
I said earlier that writers of scriptures blamed God for their misdeeds, not the other way around. Go back and see.

When, just ONE example, I read that He killed (so say the writers) every human being and animal on earth with the great flood, and this must have included innocent babes and children and old infirm people, I question His sense of justice. Well, again, please read, it's all made up by MEN. God would not, CANNOT do that, otherwise he is a murderer. Moses and Joshua attributed the hundreds of thousands of inhabitants killed in Canaan to God, men, women and innocent children and all the animals. Whole cities razed, not even a wall standing. Written by men and Joshua who easily blamed God "God made me do it". Strange, have you not heard that from killers in this very century?

Misunderstood? How can I misunderstand the killing of innocent human beings? Were there not babes and innocent children in Sodom and Gomorrah? There were only adult sinners in those two towns?

Don't say I blame God. I never did, don't do and never will.
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159786 Jun 15, 2013
Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and associations; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions of property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.,

The tone is familiar. Is it Clinton’s Anti-Terrorism Act of 1996?

Is it the Bush Patriot Act of 2001?

No. It is from Hitler’s 1933 speech calling for an Enabling Act for the protection of the People and the State after the catastrophic Reichstag fire that the Nazis had secretly lit.

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Bush challenges hundreds of laws / President cites powers of his office
http://tinyurl.com/ogv5u / April 30, 2006
WASHINGTON -- President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems,''whistle-blower " protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/20...
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159787 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Why of why do the Repubs insist on assembling born losers/incompetents - why I saw on the news that Jeb Bush, Palin and front-man Trump spoke at the same event. Why this collective suicide, why ASSURE right here and now the Dems' victory in 2016? LOSERS, trying to outdo the 8-candidate stooges of 2012.
I bet Gov. Christie was not invited.

LOL

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159788 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD created evolution.
I see logic in Adam and Eve being apelike hairy HUMANS.
A primate cannot read or write, nor do they possess reasoning and intellect to solve problems.
They do have Animal Instincts and that's it.
========
God's Pharmacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CDhMmPWWTxQXX
At the turn of the 20th century, over 80% of the world's population was illiterate. In the so-called developed world, e.g., Europe and North America, it was over 50? So?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#159789 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD created evolution.
I see logic in Adam and Eve being apelike hairy HUMANS.
A primate cannot read or write, nor do they possess reasoning and intellect to solve problems.
They do have Animal Instincts and that's it.
========
God's Pharmacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CDhMmPWWTxQXX
It is fallacious to categorize all reasoning under the ability to read and write. Animals do have some reasoning ability. Indeed, chimpanzees have been taught sigh language and have been able to communicate with humans.

http://www.npr.org/2008/05/28/90516132/the-ch...

Ever do something irrational (as a joke) and have your dog look at you
while tilting his head quizzically?

That head tilt is a means of communication: "WTF are you doing?"

The "all they have is animal instincts" bullshit went out along with with the 1957 Baltimore Catechism.

Again, religious beliefs are not scientific evidence.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't make your point, and you still haven't. Evolution is driven by natural selection forces, which are not random, but rather a consequence of complexity in the universe. Humans filled an evolutionary niche that was available. In that respect, the evolution of intelligence is not at all improbable when compared to any other organism at the higher phylogenic levels. Indeed, evolution of intelligent animals is just one example of the general phenomenon of evolution of complexity in the universe, which does not require any supernatural intervention but which is consistent with universal laws of nature.
When nature selects a mutation that had randomly occurred it is not unlike a pharmaceutical drug discovery application of combinatorial chemistry, in which huge libraries of compounds are randomly generated and then those which have some advantage are selected.
The process is not random, but the libraries are randomly generated.
<quoted text>
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159790 Jun 15, 2013
I'm guessing the two twins had a lover's spat last night and that's why they're in such a foul mood this morning.
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159791 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I said earlier that writers of scriptures blamed God for their misdeeds, not the other way around. Go back and see.
When, just ONE example, I read that He killed (so say the writers) every human being and animal on earth with the great flood, and this must have included innocent babes and children and old infirm people, I question His sense of justice. Well, again, please read, it's all made up by MEN. God would not, CANNOT do that, otherwise he is a murderer. Moses and Joshua attributed the hundreds of thousands of inhabitants killed in Canaan to God, men, women and innocent children and all the animals. Whole cities razed, not even a wall standing. Written by men and Joshua who easily blamed God "God made me do it". Strange, have you not heard that from killers in this very century?
Misunderstood? How can I misunderstand the killing of innocent human beings? Were there not babes and innocent children in Sodom and Gomorrah? There were only adult sinners in those two towns?
Don't say I blame God. I never did, don't do and never will.
Again, it all comes down to obey or disobeying GOD.

A mere mortal cannot understand GODs purposes.

There are many times GOD said to wipe out the whole entire city including live stock and spoils and the Jewish leaders did not listen and paid a price for it, BTW, and still are paying for it.

I certainly do not have all the answers But you and wojar don't either.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#159792 Jun 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I said earlier that writers of scriptures blamed God for their misdeeds, not the other way around. Go back and see.
When, just ONE example, I read that He killed (so say the writers) every human being and animal on earth with the great flood, and this must have included innocent babes and children and old infirm people, I question His sense of justice. Well, again, please read, it's all made up by MEN. God would not, CANNOT do that, otherwise he is a murderer. Moses and Joshua attributed the hundreds of thousands of inhabitants killed in Canaan to God, men, women and innocent children and all the animals. Whole cities razed, not even a wall standing. Written by men and Joshua who easily blamed God "God made me do it". Strange, have you not heard that from killers in this very century?
Misunderstood? How can I misunderstand the killing of innocent human beings? Were there not babes and innocent children in Sodom and Gomorrah? There were only adult sinners in those two towns?
Don't say I blame God. I never did, don't do and never will.
More than 60% of fertilized ova are spontaneously aborted. The murder goes on and on.

(OK, that's not God's fault,(nyuk nyuk) it's because of ORIGINAL SIN!)

OMG! Adam was a mass murderer!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159793 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
I bet Gov. Christie was not invited.
LOL
Incredibly, he apparently attended. Can't figure why. Christie is NOT a loser, and he certainly is very valid and solid contender for the presidency. And he'd probably make a good president too. But he'll have to deal with Repub malcontents who never forgave him for thanking Obama for a good job on "Sandy". The same repubs who'd like to see another god forbid president Bush or worse, Palin OMG.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#159794 Jun 15, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
I'm guessing the two twins had a lover's spat last night and that's why they're in such a foul mood this morning.
Still waiting for your explanation of the Divine Fire Hose and the Divine Wet Vac.

Now where's all that 'scientific' evidence for the great flood that immersed the earth 5000 years ago?

Cat got your tongue?

(The evidence is written down on losing lottery tickets that LRS keeps stashed in his pointy white hat made from a sheet.)
Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159795 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It is fallacious to categorize all reasoning under the ability to read and write. Animals do have some reasoning ability. Indeed, chimpanzees have been taught sigh language and have been able to communicate with humans.
http://www.npr.org/2008/05/28/90516132/the-ch...
Ever do something irrational (as a joke) and have your dog look at you
while tilting his head quizzically?
That head tilt is a means of communication: "WTF are you doing?"
The "all they have is animal instincts" bullshit went out along with with the 1957 Baltimore Catechism.
Again, religious beliefs are not scientific evidence.
<quoted text>
You are being unreasonable.

Let me see your dog write a thesis or communicate with words, or drive a plane, etc. etc. etc.

Maybe You and your dog can create the Sun? the Stars? Galaxies? Life? et cetera.

I admit I do not have all the answers to life's questions but neither do you.

Lets just agree to disagree.



Pdamerica org

Edison, NJ

#159796 Jun 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Still waiting for your explanation of the Divine Fire Hose and the Divine Wet Vac.
Now where's all that 'scientific' evidence for the great flood that immersed the earth 5000 years ago?
Cat got your tongue?
(The evidence is written down on losing lottery tickets that LRS keeps stashed in his pointy white hat made from a sheet.)
You must have seen Spaceballs?

Good movie.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159797 Jun 15, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, it all comes down to obey or disobeying GOD.
A mere mortal cannot understand GODs purposes.
There are many times GOD said to wipe out the whole entire city including live stock and spoils and the Jewish leaders did not listen and paid a price for it, BTW, and still are paying for it.
I certainly do not have all the answers But you and wojar don't either.
I have no answers, except to say that God did none of those things, all done by men who conveniently did it all in HIS name So easy.

And suppose God did kill all those innocent people, well, I don't expect you to have an answer for that, but no questions? Mostly, that He said that in Sodom and Gomorrah , there was not ONE single just man. Even the babies and pre-puberty children were fornicators and thieves? You don't question that? You are not expected to answer why Lot was cruelly transformed into a salt pillar for looking back. For looking back, you get killed? A merciful forgiving God would do that? No. A writer would attribute it to HIM, is all.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#159798 Jun 15, 2013
Barack Hussein Obama Sr was never a citizen of The United Sates and was never an immigrant to the United States. He had ten children,only one of them still lives in Kenya. The Barack H.Obama Foundation is a fully tax-exempt charitable organization (501(c)3) receives large amounts of money from United States citizens much of that money helps top fund Al Qaeda and other causes that are anti-American. Why should that money be tax exempt?

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