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Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#159422 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that the whole system is corrupt. However, and I repeat, however corrupt dems are, they will leave crumbs for everyday Joe and Jane. Repbubs, as their track record amply shows, will not even do that.
I also agree with you that "less bad" is not good enough. What do you suggest, seeing as the president requites about half a billion dollars to be on the ballot? Those that supply that kind of cash expect something in return, no?
Crumbs?

Yes, they did leave crumbs years ago while the Republicans gave the whole loaf of bread to Wall Street.

Clinton changed all that when he terminated Glass/Steagall and many other bad policy, so Wall Street can contribute to Democrats also.

NAFTA, 1996 Telecommunications bill, etc. etc.

Obama had the most donations from average Americans then any other president before him, AND STILL sold out to Wall Street.

==========

Financial Sector Investments In Congress and the Senate Banking Committee / January 21, 2010 /
The financial sector greased the wheels of deregulation in Congress in the decade leading up to the economic meltdown. In the wake of the crisis, financial firms hope to erect enough roadblocks in the way of reform to preserve the status quo. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/Fin...

Obama's Half-Baked Bank Reform
Wall Street has already figured out how to game the president’s proposal to reform the banking system. Former Goldman executive Nomi Prins on how to stop the trickery./ January 22, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/yz4tz8g / by Nomi Prins
Seeing Paul Volcker, former Fed Chair and chairman of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board, lord over President Obama yesterday as he made his proposal to limit the scope and size of financial institutions, it was easy to imagine him saying “I told you so.” Volcker, after all, has been a long time advocate of slicing up banks and prohibiting them from the majority of speculative activities.
But as I called around New York and Washington yesterday, it already seems that Wall Street has figured out ways to circumvent the administration’s plan, which centers on “proprietary trading”—risky bets the banks make for their own accounts.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-storie...

Time to Reign in Out-of-Control Corporate Influences on Our Democracy
by Ralph Nader / January 23, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/ycwqwnw
Thursday's 5-4 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission shreds the fabric of our already weakened democracy by allowing corporations to more completely dominate our corrupted electoral process. It is outrageous that corporations already attempt to influence or bribe our political candidates through their political action committees (PACs), which solicit employees and shareholders for donations.
Much of this 183 page opinion requires readers to enter into a fantasy world and accept the twisted logic of Justice Kennedy, who delivered the opinion of the Court, joined by Chief Justice Roberts, and Justices Scalia, Alito, and Thomas. Imagine the majority saying the "Government may not suppress political speech based on the speaker's corporate identity."
Perhaps Justice Kennedy didn't hear that the financial sector invested more than $5 billion in political influence purchasing in Washington over the past decade, with as many as 3,000 lobbyists winning deregulation and other policy decisions that led directly to the current financial collapse, according to a 231-page report titled: "Sold Out: How Wall Street and Washington Betrayed America" (See: http://www.wallstreetwatch.org ).
The Center for Responsive Politics reported that last year the U.S. Chamber of Commerce spent $144 million to influence Congress and state legislatures.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/23
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#159423 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you realize they have a magazine online called Inspire! No electronics involved in that....naw. LMAO
http://tinyurl.com/62nmcq

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159424 Jun 13, 2013
In response to Linktv's post number 159369 :

I could not directly respond as your bible citations did not leave enough space. Sorry.

Who wrote Genesis? No one knows. Rumours have it Moses did. Probably not. Strange, educated men and women abide by Genesis and we don't even know who invented or wrote it. Faith is faith, yes, but this is going the limit.

Genesis, if God was on trial, is self-incrimination. God would have to take the fifth were he brought to trial.

1. God creates everything in 7 days. Yeah, suuuuure;
2. To fend off "ennui", creates man, Adam;
3. Adam is happy, has everything he wants and needs. Cannot be wanting company as he does not know about "company" or that it even exists or could exist;
4. He creates Eve OUT OF ADAM'S RIB. Yeah, suuuuure;
5. TV must be bad in heaven, as God is still bored;
6. He tells the snake, who at that time is standing, to tempt Adam and Eve beneath the apple tree, tell them to eat an apple so they can become as wise and ever-knowing as God. Question : Why does God do this? What's wrong with HIM? Why can't he leave well enough alone?;
7. Eve enjoins Adam to eat the apple so he'll become everything God is. Adam obeys, takes a bite, and BOOM, a VOICE, a grave voice bellows out : "Adam, what have you done?" And Adam, typical male that he is, turns to Eve and exclaims : "She made me do it";
8. Well, bad bad Eve. Punishment for her and billions of women that will follow her? Pain, atrocious pain giving birth. Why could the "rib thing" not continue? So much easier. Overkill? You betcha. Everyone from now on will toil and suffer and risk going to hell if bad ALL BECAUSE some poor sap ate an apple? Overkill? You betcha;
9. Driven out of Paradise, newly clothed (no Gucci here), they set up shop and have two boys, Abel and Cain;
10. Cain, who prepares a sacrifice of vegetables as sacrificing animals is not allowed by God, kills Abel who went against God's law and sacrificed an animal but nevertheless pleased God.

This story is going well, isn't it? The first dysfunctional family.

11.After killing his brother, and rightly so, Cain takes off with his wife. His wife? Where'd SHE come from? There were only Adam and Eve in the beginning. This is sounding more and more Fable-like, no?;
12. Anyhoo, Cain is NOT punished as we were taught in bible class, no, he becomes a farmer, has many wives (oops, where'd THEY come from?) children and becomes prosperous and dies of old age, goes unpunished for his crime;
13. Incest continues, world is populated until God regrets having created man and unleashes the great flood, after which incest resumes, as there are only Noah and his family left to fill the planet.

And so it goes, moves to Exodus, the most murderous, hatefull rapist-filled book in the whole wide world.

It's easy to blame God for this mess, like our beginnings by incest. As we all know, incest breeds insanity and explains in part the creation of the insane birther party and its looney-tooney members. And toss in a mix of Republicans and tea partyers. I digress. I love to digress. As I said, easy to say "God made me do it". All of these holy writings are gleaned from oral tradition and inventions and phantasms. God is to blame for none of this mess, but so easy to lay it on Him, no?
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#159425 Jun 13, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
The jig is up for Obama. He is going to jail.
Obama will never ever be impeached for continuing the crimes of Bush and Cheney.

NEVER EVER!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159426 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Spamming is against the rules. hsp LMAO!!!
Ellen wrote:
Rational people will notice that the above is not an answer to the question.
Justice LRS: Ditto! hsp
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159427 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that the whole system is corrupt. However, and I repeat, however corrupt dems are, they will leave crumbs for everyday Joe and Jane. Repbubs, as their track record amply shows, will not even do that.
I also agree with you that "less bad" is not good enough. What do you suggest, seeing as the president requites about half a billion dollars to be on the ballot? Those that supply that kind of cash expect something in return, no?
Sorry, your opinion doesn't matter as you are an outsider!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159428 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been hoping all along, but in vain, that WelbyMD signifies Maryland and not medical doctor.
"Nut Job" is a huge understatement. How about "birther"?
Silly dumbazzbastard! LMAO!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159429 Jun 13, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Crumbs?
Yes, they did leave crumbs years ago while the Republicans gave the whole loaf of bread to Wall Street.
Clinton changed all that when he terminated Glass/Steagall and many other bad policy, so Wall Street can contribute to Democrats also.
NAFTA, 1996 Telecommunications bill, etc. etc.
Obama had the most donations from average Americans then any other president before him, AND STILL sold out to Wall Street.
==========
Financial Sector Investments In Congress and the Senate Banking Committee / January 21, 2010 /
The financial sector greased the wheels of deregulation in Congress in the decade leading up to the economic meltdown. In the wake of the crisis, financial firms hope to erect enough roadblocks in the way of reform to preserve the status quo. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/Fin...
Obama's Half-Baked Bank Reform
Wall Street has already figured out how to game the president’s proposal to reform the banking system. Former Goldman executive Nomi Prins on how to stop the trickery./ January 22, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/yz4tz8g / by Nomi Prins
Seeing Paul Volcker, former Fed Chair and chairman of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board, lord over President Obama yesterday as he made his proposal to limit the scope and size of financial institutions, it was easy to imagine him saying “I told you so.” Volcker, after all, has been a long time advocate of slicing up banks and prohibiting them from the majority of speculative activities.
But as I called around New York and Washington yesterday, it already seems that Wall Street has figured out ways to circumvent the administration’s plan, which centers on “proprietary trading”—risky bets the banks make for their own accounts.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-storie...
Time to Reign in Out-of-Control Corporate Influences on Our Democracy
by Ralph Nader / January 23, 2010 /http://tinyurl.com/ycwqwnw
Thursday's 5-4 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission shreds the fabric of our already weakened democracy by allowing corporations to more completely dominate our corrupted electoral process.It is outrageous that corporations already attempt to influence or bribe our political candidates through their political action committees (PACs), which solicit employees and shareholders for donations.

Perhaps Justice Kennedy didn't hear that the financial sector invested more than $5 billion in political influence purchasing in Washington over the past decade, with as many as 3,000 lobbyists winning deregulation and other policy decisions that led directly to the current financial collapse,according to a 231-page report titled: "Sold Out: How Wall Street and Washington Betrayed America" (See: http://www.wallstreetwatch.org ).
The Center for Responsive Politics reported that last year the U.S. Chamber of Commerce spent $144 million to influence Congress and state legislatures.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/23
Crumbs, specially in an economic juggernaut like the US,is still a considerable asset to the middle class. And, better to receive crumbs than no crumbs. I do agree that this does not mean it's all okay.Mediocrity is never okay.

As to half-baked laws, the president can only sign the diluted laws that congress has passed. Otherwise, there are no laws. Of course, banks have found ways to circumvent the new laws, as Repub majority in congress saw to it that loopholes would prevail - after all, what are friends for? I recall when Obama invoked not paying bonuses to bankrupt bank and brokerage execs and how he was hauled down.As to the electoral process and financing of campaigns ,I was pretty clear on that a few hours ago. We have the same problem here with elections financing, and so do most "democratic" countries.

P§: forgive me, had to cut a bit off your post, mine could not fit in otherwise.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159430 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly dumbazzbastard! LMAO!
Do you enjoy posting idiocies that only prove my point, to wit, that it sucks to be you? You don't mind looking like a fool?
Patriot

Brighton, CO

#159431 Jun 13, 2013
The Usurpation of the Presidency is an Act of War

Arrest Barack Hussein Obama, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Saebarkah Under the Aliens and Seditions Acts, Publicly Try Him for Espionage, and Then Legally Execute Him for Treason! Then go after his NWO handlers.

http://www.commieblaster.com/ineligible/

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/i...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159432 Jun 13, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Rational people will notice that the above is not an answer to the question.
Er, Ellen, birthers are NOT rational people.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159433 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, your opinion doesn't matter as you are an outsider!
And that makes it not so? Ever considered an intelligent response?

Oops, forget the question.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159434 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
In response to Linktv's post number 159369 :
I could not directly respond as your bible citations did not leave enough space. Sorry.
Who wrote Genesis? No one knows. Rumours have it Moses did. Probably not. Strange, educated men and women abide by Genesis and we don't even know who invented or wrote it. Faith is faith, yes, but this is going the limit.
Genesis, if God was on trial, is self-incrimination. God would have to take the fifth were he brought to trial.
1. God creates everything in 7 days. Yeah, suuuuure;
2. To fend off "ennui", creates man, Adam;
3. Adam is happy, has everything he wants and needs. Cannot be wanting company as he does not know about "company" or that it even exists or could exist;
4. He creates Eve OUT OF ADAM'S RIB. Yeah, suuuuure;
5. TV must be bad in heaven, as God is still bored;
6. He tells the snake, who at that time is standing, to tempt Adam and Eve beneath the apple tree, tell them to eat an apple so they can become as wise and ever-knowing as God. Question : Why does God do this? What's wrong with HIM? Why can't he leave well enough alone?;
7. Eve enjoins Adam to eat the apple so he'll become everything God is. Adam obeys, takes a bite, and BOOM, a VOICE, a grave voice bellows out : "Adam, what have you done?" And Adam, typical male that he is, turns to Eve and exclaims : "She made me do it";
8. Well, bad bad Eve. Punishment for her and billions of women that will follow her? Pain, atrocious pain giving birth. Why could the "rib thing" not continue? So much easier. Overkill? You betcha. Everyone from now on will toil and suffer and risk going to hell if bad ALL BECAUSE some poor sap ate an apple? Overkill? You betcha;
9. Driven out of Paradise, newly clothed (no Gucci here), they set up shop and have two boys, Abel and Cain;
10. Cain, who prepares a sacrifice of vegetables as sacrificing animals is not allowed by God, kills Abel who went against God's law and sacrificed an animal but nevertheless pleased God.
This story is going well, isn't it? The first dysfunctional family.
11.After killing his brother, and rightly so, Cain takes off with his wife. His wife? Where'd SHE come from? There were only Adam and Eve in the beginning. This is sounding more and more Fable-like, no?;
12. Anyhoo, Cain is NOT punished as we were taught in bible class, no, he becomes a farmer, has many wives (oops, where'd THEY come from?) children and becomes prosperous and dies of old age, goes unpunished for his crime;
13. Incest continues, world is populated until God regrets having created man and unleashes the great flood, after which incest resumes, as there are only Noah and his family left to fill the planet.
And so it goes, moves to Exodus, the most murderous, hatefull rapist-filled book in the whole wide world.
It's easy to blame God for this mess, like our beginnings by incest. As we all know, incest breeds insanity and explains in part the creation of the insane birther party and its looney-tooney members. And toss in a mix of Republicans and tea partyers. I digress. I love to digress. As I said, easy to say "God made me do it". All of these holy writings are gleaned from oral tradition and inventions and phantasms. God is to blame for none of this mess, but so easy to lay it on Him, no?
Burn brightly lil ember!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159435 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you enjoy posting idiocies that only prove my point, to wit, that it sucks to be you? You don't mind looking like a fool?
How it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, how it must suck, LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159436 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Er, Ellen, birthers are NOT rational people.
I suppose a canadian who is obsessed with America is rational? LMAO! I think not!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159437 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
And that makes it not so? Ever considered an intelligent response?
Oops, forget the question.
Ever considered keeping your nose out of other's business? Why don't you focus on how quickly Ottawa is becoming a ghetto? Why there might even be a forum about it. And, there just might be canadians there! Are you not comfortable speaking with your fellow "countrymen" or have they already given you the boot?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159438 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Burn brightly lil ember!
Do you have any sane quasi-intelligent reply, some retort, rebuttal, reasoning? If you're such a staunch Christian, LMAO (LRs tm reg'd), you must surely have a quick answer for every one of my words.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159439 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever considered keeping your nose out of other's business? Why don't you focus on how quickly Ottawa is becoming a ghetto? Why there might even be a forum about it. And, there just might be canadians there! Are you not comfortable speaking with your fellow "countrymen" or have they already given you the boot?
Another "I have no intelligent or rational response", so don't opine on my country even when you're right.

Please do tell about the Ottawa ghetto.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159440 Jun 13, 2013
Poor lil jackfish. He ran off and changed his name! LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159441 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any sane quasi-intelligent reply, some retort, rebuttal, reasoning? If you're such a staunch Christian, LMAO (LRs tm reg'd), you must surely have a quick answer for every one of my words.
You simply can't figure out what my post means. bonehead

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