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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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American Lady

Danville, KY

#159504 Jun 13, 2013
There three ways for a person claim citizenship, what most of us think of first is called Jus soli,“the right of the soil,” which is the physical location your place of birth.

The second is what is called Jus sanguinis,“the right of blood,” which you inherit from your parents.

The third is a combination of Jus soli and Jus sanguinis, and it is this combination that determines if one is a natural born citizen.

http://tinyurl.com/7rro6gj

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#159505 Jun 13, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
JESUS was not just a prophet HE IS GOD and HUMAN.
You cannot have it both ways.
JESUS was either a NUT or He really was GOD's only SON.
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1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Did Jesus not write anything of his own? Of course he didn’t. What you post are quotes from the gospel according to John (whoever he was) which differs from that according to Matthew, Mark and Luke (whoever they were)

Jesus if he existed at all certainly had some nutty ideas and for that he was obviously crucified; and since no one has established the existence of any gods it would be a bit premature to commence burdening them with sacrificial sons already.

Surely you can understand why the primitive notion of human sacrifice would be totally repugnant to the enlightened mind can you not? Of course you can’t. Some would say, Lord help us if the Christians ever seize control. LOL………

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159506 Jun 13, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What made you such a bitter and angry soul?
Well, how about my copying your language? It's YOUR dumbazzbastard, not mine. I don't talk like that.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#159507 Jun 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
And human chromosome 2 resulted from a fusion of chromosomes 12 and 13 of an ancestor. Indeed, chimp chromosomes 12 & 13 if stitched together would have the same genes in the same arrangement as the human. Chromosomes fusions are well known in genetics, and mechanisms elucidated.
you're educating me and I don't mind at all. Er, hmmm, think you've lost the birthers, particularly Justice ha ha LRS and Rogue OMG Scholar.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#159510 Jun 13, 2013

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#159511 Jun 13, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Please DO NOT any longer WASTE yours ... then ...
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Alexander Hamilton
Following the American Revolution, Hamilton studied law under James Duane. Hamilton qualified to practice law in record time. Duane schooled Hamilton in the natural law of Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss proponent of the Leibniz.[Vattel's Law of Nation's
Hamilton played a crucial role in convincing the population of the new American republic of the necessity to call a Constitutional Convention to establish a new Constitution, because the government of the Articles of Confederation was not functioning.
http://east_west_dialogue.trip od.com/vattel/id5.html
Minor v. Happersett
Happersett, 88 U.S. at 167; paraphrasing Emerich de Vattel, The Law of Nations,*book I, chapter XIX, section 212.^ Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. at 168. "For the ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_v._Happers...
*book I, chapter XIX, section 212.
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages.
The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. <<--<<<
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it.
The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born.
I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
http://constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm
I’m I missing something here AL? The guy I voted for is president and will have been when he finishes his term for eight years. The nonsense you proffer was a loser from the gate and to date only resonates within the caves of the ignorant birfoon.

What’s amazing is how you can actually see that your folly has gotten you absolutely nowhere yet can still somehow seriously believe imminent victory is just around the corner. Your silly pronouncements never has and never will be true and the sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#159512 Jun 13, 2013
Oh this is funny!

Hannity Then and Now on NSA Surveillance
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#159513 Jun 13, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
I’m I missing something here AL? The guy I voted for is president and will have been when he finishes his term for eight years. The nonsense you proffer was a loser from the gate and to date only resonates within the caves of the ignorant birfoon.
What’s amazing is how you can actually see that your folly has gotten you absolutely nowhere yet can still somehow seriously believe imminent victory is just around the corner. Your silly pronouncements never has and never will be true and the sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be
he is a FRAUD!
more ways than one!

Fraud got obama and clinton on ballot in 2008
About 2,850,000 results

Dem Officials Convicted of Fraud in Getting Obama, Clinton on 2008
[http://www.breitbart.com/Big- Government/2013/04/26/Obama-An d-Hillary-Both-Got-On-Indiana- 2008-Primary-Ballot-Fraudulent ly]
Apr 26, 2013 – In 2008, both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton got on the ballot illegally in the presidential primary in Indiana. On Thursday, two Democratic ...

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ARE YOU AFRAID TO READ MY LINKS?
AFRAID OF BEING HIT BETWEEN THE EYES WITH A 2x4?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159515 Jun 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
DNA analysis of genetic diversity in the human genome has disproved the idea of a single mating pair as founder population. Sorry. Meanwhile there are so many independent molecular genetic examples, for example the GULO pseudogene that establish a common ancestor of the human and chimp. Mutated alu elements in the GULO pseudogene are in the same positions in both species. Either God is a divine merry prankster or you believe a person can reasonably expect to win powerball 100 times in succession. The science is unequivocal.
<quoted text>
And many scientists are mad. This entire Universe was a mere accident, huh? There are no coincidences. You'd be wise to take that to heart. So where is the missing link? For all any of us know, evolution may be nothing more than part of the divine plan.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159516 Jun 13, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Jesus not write anything of his own? Of course he didn’t. What you post are quotes from the gospel according to John (whoever he was) which differs from that according to Matthew, Mark and Luke (whoever they were)
Jesus if he existed at all certainly had some nutty ideas and for that he was obviously crucified; and since no one has established the existence of any gods it would be a bit premature to commence burdening them with sacrificial sons already.
Surely you can understand why the primitive notion of human sacrifice would be totally repugnant to the enlightened mind can you not? Of course you can’t. Some would say, Lord help us if the Christians ever seize control. LOL………
What a screwed up bunch of garbage.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#159517 Jun 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, how about my copying your language? It's YOUR dumbazzbastard, not mine. I don't talk like that.
How does that in any way, shape or form begin to answer the question?
Nazrat

Mcdonough, GA

#159519 Jun 14, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Question : You're stranded on a deserted island. A genie tells you that you can have one companion and he/she can be conservative OR liberal. You're gonna have to live with him/her the rest of your life. Frankly now, who shall it be?
One of the opposite sex!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159520 Jun 14, 2013
Poppo wrote:
Oh this is funny!
Hannity Then and Now on NSA Surveillance
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The only problem was that that law EXPIRED in 2011 and was replaced by a highly modified version by the same name which signed into law by ... Obama.
just because the new law has the same name as the old law, doesn't mean it is the same.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159521 Jun 14, 2013
Now Poopo, how about this?
In 2006 75% of Republicans approved NSA surveillance program but only 37% of the Democrats did.
But now only 52% of Republicans do while 64% of Democrats do.
That is a net change of -23% for Republican but a +27 for Democrats which would imply that Democrats are more partisan than Republicans are.
Oh, so called Independents went from 44% to 53% for but most Independents are ... Liberals.

Majority Views NSA Phone Tracking as Acceptable Anti-terror Tactic June 10, 2013
http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-1...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159522 Jun 14, 2013
Is this an issue? Really, is this an issue. She went to the Paris Air Show in 2011 and the London Air Show last year, does she really NEED to go to the Paris Air Show again?
I mean, they are BIG events with the London show on even years and the Paris on odd years and the are THE air shows!
I have been to the Paris Air Show in 1987. We went on a bus with our wives. The bus dropped us guys off at the airport and then took our wives shopping in ... Paris! Does anyone want to guess which group spent more Money?!?
Rogue

SC sending 16 people to air show; Haley not going
16-person SC delegation attending Paris Air Show does not include Gov. Haley this year

By Seanna Adcox, Associated Press | Associated Press – 14 hrs ago
It marks the first time the Republican governor has not been part of the state's delegation at an international air show since she took office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley#Raci...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#159523 Jun 14, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
Ed Snowden voted for Obama..... twice!
No, this article quotes him he voted for a third party! He sounds like he maybe a Libertarian?
Rogue

Edward Snowden: I mistakenly believed in Obama’s promises
June 9, 2013

Edward Snowden, the self-revealed whistle-blower at the National Security Agency, explains that part of the reason he decided to come forward was because President Obama did not roll back the surveillance measures put into place by the Bush Administration.

“A lot of people in 2008 voted for Obama. I did not vote for him. I voted for a third party,” Snowden said in an interview with the Guardian.“But I believed in Obama’s promises. I was going to disclose it [but waited because of his election]. He continued with the policies of his predecessor.”

Snowden acknowledged that he watched Obama struggle as he attempted to justify the surveillance programs during his press conference on Friday.

“My immediate reaction was he was having difficulty in defending it himself,” Snowden said about Obama.“He was trying to defend the unjustifiable and he knew it.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/edward-snowden-...

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#159524 Jun 14, 2013
Barack Obama = War President

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#159525 Jun 14, 2013
You know Jacques, John McCain set a very poor example again when he entered Syria illegally and under the cloak of secrecy.
Length of his stay is irrelevant. He crossed the border illegally.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#159526 Jun 14, 2013
Jacques,
You do know that Syria is also known as the Levant, yes?
loose

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#159527 Jun 14, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "2] This issue has been addressed many times and even the Hawaiian government will not confirm whether or not the jpeg image is a copy of any State of Hawaii document! All they have commented on is the "information" which they say is correct. But they did not mention whether or not there was any deleted information. "
What they said was that the facts MATCH. That means that there cannot be any deleted information There can be no more facts or less facts on one than the other or they would not MATCH.
True, but the entire notion of "deleted information" is precluded because item 23 which would contain reference to evidence for an altered birth certificate or late registration cannot possibly pertain to a foreign birth listed as a local hospital birth registered within four days of the event. HDoH has confirmed that the information matches, and that means David A. Sinclair was the attending physician at Kapiolani in Honolulu, which we all know, is not in Kenya. Furthermore, if there were a late registration, it could not pertain to registration on August 8 for an August 4 birth, so late registration is precluded. Also, in the cased of an amended birth certificate, there would be an affidavit on file. There is no affidavit. Rogue is being dishonest with himself whenever he deludes himself into believing the fantasy that information could have been deleted from item 23 that would support foreign birth given the fact pattern of the case.

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