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Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#157931 Jun 2, 2013
American Lady wrote:
Vattel defines IT!
Book I
Chapter XIX[19]
Section § 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages.

The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it.

The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born.

I[Vattel] say[s], that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen;

for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

http://constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

As 'defined' in The US Constitution Art I Section 8 Clause 10
10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenc(s)es against the

>> [Vattels] Law of Nations; <<
http://constitutionus.com/

The[Vattel's] law of nations, Chief Justice Marshall famously said in 1815, is part of the law of our land.

The U. S. Constitution, in Article I, authorized Congress to define and punish “Offences against the Law of Nations,” and the very first Congress passed the Alien Tort Act, which empowers federal courts to entertain civil actions brought by an alien for a tort “committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States.”

Decisions of the courts of other countries, Marshall explained, show how the law of nations is understood elsewhere, and will be considered in determining the rule which is to prevail here. Those decisions, he clarified, while not binding authority for U. S. courts, merit respectful attention for their potential persuasive value.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/speech...

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5
Document 2
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 3:§§ 1472--73
1833
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/docum...

S~I~M~P~L~E ... Really ...

Two American Citizens make a Natural Born citizen

American - Mother
American - Father ...

0's father IS Kenyan ... NOT American!

Same as Ted Cruz ...
Father is Cuban ...
He was NOT "naturalized" before Ted was born!

Had he been, Ted would BE a "NATURAL born" citizen!
Get a new fable androgynous commie

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157932 Jun 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh goody, more peanutz from the peanut gallery. I must have struck someone's nerve!!!
Hmm, more insane to-yourself ramblings. Wow. Butterfly nets and chains, anyone?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157933 Jun 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
During the Korean War. Most MiG 15 pilots were "Honchos" (Russian pilots). But since they only flew over territory controlled by the Chinese, when they were shot down, they were not captured by us.
Yes, the Russians made sure that their pilots were never captured!
Same thing in North Vietnam.
Now you will probably claim I listed a source or that Soviet pilots flew COMBAT misison during the Korean War!!!
MiG Alley
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"MiG Alley" is the name given by U.S. Air Force pilots to the northwestern portion of North Korea, where the Yalu River empties into the Yellow Sea. During the Korean War, it was the site of numerous dogfights between U.S. fighter jets and those of the Communist forces, particularly the Soviet Union, which was confirmed after the fall of the Soviet Union. The North American F-86 Sabre and the Soviet-built Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 were the aircraft used throughout most of the conflict, with the area's nickname derived from the latter. Because it was the site of the first large-scale jet-vs-jet air battles, MiG Alley is considered the birthplace of jet fighter combat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley
So the USSR waged war on the USA by piloting MIGs over North Korea? Are you totally insane?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157935 Jun 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
All roads lead to Obama!
Republican lawmaker says IRS targeting likely led by Washington By Patrick Temple-West | Reuters
By Patrick Temple-West
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- A Republican U.S. congressman investigating the Internal Revenue Service's scrutiny of conservative groups said on Sunday the targeting was likely directed from Washington, a claim quickly rejected by a top Congressional Democrat involved in the probe.
In a move that could jeopardize the bipartisan co-operation that so far has characterized Congress's IRS investigations, Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said on CNN that interviews his staff conducted last week with Cincinnati IRS employees indicate these employees were being "directly ordered" from Washington to target Tea Party groups.
The Oversight Committee Republicans posted online on Sunday excerpts from interview transcripts of two Cincinnati IRS employees, one man and one woman, who talked to Democratic and Republican staffers in Washington, committee aides told Reuters. The individuals' names are being withheld to protect their identities, they said.
http://music.yahoo.com/news/republican-lawmak...
It's bad news for Obama if indeed the orders came from Washington. But here is what I don't understand. Why in hell would the administration waste precious funding spying on conservatives, tea partyers and birthers? What a waste. Why not spy on the Three Stooges? At least they're funny. If indeed Obama ordered spying on those useless harmless gormless brainless groups, then he deserves hell.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157937 Jun 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
During the Korean War. Most MiG 15 pilots were "Honchos" (Russian pilots). But since they only flew over territory controlled by the Chinese, when they were shot down, they were not captured by us.
Yes, the Russians made sure that their pilots were never captured!
Same thing in North Vietnam.
Now you will probably claim I listed a source or that Soviet pilots flew COMBAT misison during the Korean War!!!
MiG Alley
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"MiG Alley" is the name given by U.S. Air Force pilots to the northwestern portion of North Korea, where the Yalu River empties into the Yellow Sea. During the Korean War, it was the site of numerous dogfights between U.S. fighter jets and those of the Communist forces, particularly the Soviet Union, which was confirmed after the fall of the Soviet Union. The North American F-86 Sabre and the Soviet-built Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 were the aircraft used throughout most of the conflict, with the area's nickname derived from the latter. Because it was the site of the first large-scale jet-vs-jet air battles, MiG Alley is considered the birthplace of jet fighter combat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG_Alley
You cite Wikipedia here to buttress your MIG alley story, which is true btw. So why don't you believe the same Wikipedia when it states that F-14s flew combat missions? And other sources to boot?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#157939 Jun 2, 2013
SOROS-FUNDED ACTIVIST:'I HELPED WRITE OBAMACARE'
Argued individual mandates will achieve 'near-universal coverage'

The CAP has long been closely tied to the Obama administration. The centers co-director, John Podesta, was co-director of Obamas White House transition team.

The CAP is funded by billionaire George Soros. Its board includes Van Jones, Obamas former green jobs czar, who resigned in September 2009 after it was exposed he founded a communist revolutionary organization.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/soros-funded-activ...

Do you believe ME now?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#157940 Jun 2, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Get a new fable androgynous commie
CommieBlaster: Communist Obama Marxist Socialist Maoist ...
www.commieblaster.com/&#8206 ;
Proof Obama is a Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Maoist, Progressive, Islamic, Terrorist, Ineligible Imposter, Usurper.

http://www.commieblaster.com/
American Lady

Danville, KY

#157943 Jun 2, 2013
STILL afraid of the TRUTH, I see.
Post #157942 - GONE
``````````

Nullification By 10th. Amendment
The States Have De Facto Control Of Their Employee ~ The Federal Government.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/nullification-10...

President George Washington Structured The Militia System To Prevent Treason And Tyranny By Public Officials!

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/03/31/presi...
Las Cruces retiree

Las Cruces, NM

#157944 Jun 2, 2013
American Lady wrote:
STILL afraid of the TRUTH, I see.
Post #157942 - GONE
``````````
Nullification By 10th. Amendment
The States Have De Facto Control Of Their Employee ~ The Federal Government.
http://politicalvelcraft.org/nullification-10...
President George Washington Structured The Militia System To Prevent Treason And Tyranny By Public Officials!
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/03/31/presi...
I say Bill Clinton (of all people) got it right:

Here are some quotes by Bill Clinton from a New York Post article:

"Obama doesnt know how to be president. He doesnt know how the world works. Hes incompetent. Hes an amateur!
.....
"Obama has made a lot of promises and nothing ever happened."

"He (BO) once boasted that hed bring the Israelis and Palestinians to the negotiating table and create a permanent peace in the Middle East. Nothing happened. "

"He (BO)said hed open a constructive dialogue with Americas enemies in Iran and North Korea and, through his special powers of persuasion, help them see the error of their ways. And nothing happened."

"He (BO) said hed solve the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and put millions of people back to work. And nothing happened."

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/gets_hi...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#157946 Jun 2, 2013
BACKLASH! GUN-CONTROL LAWS NULLIFIED
Sheriffs take bold stand to protect citizens from federal overreach
http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/backlash-gun-contr...

Karl 14 hours ago
This is good news! I'm a Police Officer in Kentucky and am glad to see our Sheriff's Association on the list. Although there are may patriotic amerians in this state and officers who swear to uphold the constitution, it would be GREAT to see these Associations and pro constitution groups meet with our smaller communities to insure their support and to boost the moral of the people in these communities.

I swear by my oath and America patriotism to uphold the constitution and all amendments within it to the best of my ability.
``````````
Sheriff's can "deputize" ALL the help they need ...
Patriots will do it for FREE!

``````````

As college student, Eric Holder participated in armed takeover of former Columbia University ROTC office
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/30/as-college-...

winslow
So how is a S*B like Holder with his hatred for white people, the head of OUR Justice Department?
A racist president and .........all the kings men
``````````
Good Night to all God fearing
Christians and Patriots

Thanks for another day of ...
Keeping on KEEPING on!

:)
WOW

Canyon Country, CA

#157947 Jun 3, 2013
""Obama administration threatened the media if they reported on birth certificate

Government
June 2, 2013
By: Vicky Nissen
Subscribe

Sheriff Joe Arpaio investigates the birth certificate
Sheriff Joe Arpaio investigates the birth certificate
Credits:
AP

Government
Barack Obama
birth certificate
Fraud
Arpaio

Obama
Birth Certificate

The media has long been silent on the birth certificate issue. According to Mike Zullo, the lead investigator for Sherriff Arpaios Maricopa County Cold Case Posse, he recently talked with prominent members of the press and was told, in anonymity, that their job security and even personal safety was threatened if they reported on the birth certificate issue; not even Fox News will cover it. Although Zullo was scheduled to appear on Hannity in the past, his appearance was cancelled.

At the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Convention yesterday, Mike Zullo presented evidence of the biggest fraud in history being perpetrated on U.S. citizens. President Barack Obamas birth certificate is a complete forgery.

Zullo said that "audible gasps" could often be heard during his presentation as the audience reacted with shock. He said that one official came up to him afterwards and said, "I have been purposely ignoring this matter - until NOW! I will ignore it no longer." Zullo reports that several constitutional officers, public officials, attorneys, elected officials, and others are now pledging full and personal support in moving this matter to a congressional investigation. Zullo says that the media blackout has kept many of these officials in the dark. He says most of them are now outraged now that they have seen the evidence that they should have seen from the beginning.

Not convinced?

In September, 2012, top Israeli scientists including Israel Hanukoglu, PHD, a former science adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, indicated the certificate was a fake. His website even carries instructions for taking apart the fabricated document.

Hanukoglu, an award-winning researcher, is a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology in the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center of Samaria in Ariel, Israel. According to Hanukoglu, the publication of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reins on the most powerful country of the World.

Back to Arpaio...

Soon, according to Zullo, certain members of the media, the courts, and congress are going to look very silly. They have been ignoring this, sitting on it, marginalizing it, and flat-out trashing the matter for years. They will soon be seen for what they are. This matter should have been investigated by Congress years ago. It is their constitutional mandate and they ignored it purposely. This whole thing could have been resolved one way or the other years back. The media blacked it out. But we dont need the pundit media anymore. We are going around the MSM. We have other venues now. More and more, very important people of constitutional standing are being enlightened and coming on board. Soon, the world will know that we have been correct in this matter all along."

...that says it all. Why do you have to threaten people if he has a birth certificate? Why do you have to threaten people if it is untrue?? Why???

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157948 Jun 3, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
CommieBlaster: Communist Obama Marxist Socialist Maoist ...
www.commieblaster.com/&#8206 ;
Proof Obama is a Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Maoist, Progressive, Islamic, Terrorist, Ineligible Imposter, Usurper.
http://www.commieblaster.com/
Proof you are a "Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Maoist, Progressive, Islamic, Terrorist, Ineligible Imposter, Usurper." : YOUR love for Pravda and everything Russian. A century ago, you would've been jailed or, better yet, shot, for treason

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157949 Jun 3, 2013
American Lady wrote:
STILL afraid of the TRUTH, I see.
Post #157942 - GONE
``````````
Nullification By 10th. Amendment
The States Have De Facto Control Of Their Employee ~ The Federal Government.
http://politicalvelcraft.org/nullification-10...
President George Washington Structured The Militia System To Prevent Treason And Tyranny By Public Officials!
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/03/31/presi...
President George Washington would've had you arrested as a spy and a communist if communism had existed.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157950 Jun 3, 2013
Las Cruces retiree wrote:
<quoted text>
I say Bill Clinton (of all people) got it right:
Here are some quotes by Bill Clinton from a New York Post article:
"Obama doesnt know how to be president. He doesnt know how the world works. Hes incompetent. Hes an amateur!
.....
"Obama has made a lot of promises and nothing ever happened."
"He (BO) once boasted that hed bring the Israelis and Palestinians to the negotiating table and create a permanent peace in the Middle East. Nothing happened. "
"He (BO)said hed open a constructive dialogue with Americas enemies in Iran and North Korea and, through his special powers of persuasion, help them see the error of their ways. And nothing happened."
"He (BO) said hed solve the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and put millions of people back to work. And nothing happened."
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/gets_hi...
All this from...The NY Post? That rag? And you give credence to this kind of crap? Everyone knows there is no love lost between Obama and Clinton, but to reproduce mere gossipy hearsay from a journalistic rag is preposterous to say the least. Cite a serious publication and then we'll see.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#157952 Jun 3, 2013
WOW wrote:
""Obama administration threatened the media if they reported on birth certificate

Government
June 2, 2013
By: Vicky Nissen
Subscribe

Sheriff Joe Arpaio investigates the birth certificate
Sheriff Joe Arpaio investigates the birth certificate
Credits:
AP

Government
Barack Obama
birth certificate
Fraud
Arpaio

Obama
Birth Certificate

The media has long been silent on the birth certificate issue. According to Mike Zullo, the lead investigator for Sherriff Arpaio’s Maricopa County Cold Case Posse, he recently talked with prominent members of the press and was told, in anonymity, that their job security and even personal safety was threatened if they reported on the birth certificate issue; not even Fox News will cover it. Although Zullo was scheduled to appear on Hannity in the past, his appearance was cancelled.

At the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Convention yesterday, Mike Zullo presented evidence of the biggest fraud in history being perpetrated on U.S. citizens. President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a complete forgery.

Zullo said that "audible gasps" could often be heard during his presentation as the audience reacted with shock. He said that one official came up to him afterwards and said, "I have been purposely ignoring this matter - until NOW! I will ignore it no longer." Zullo reports that several constitutional officers, public officials, attorneys, elected officials, and others are now pledging full and personal support in moving this matter to a congressional investigation. Zullo says that the media blackout has kept many of these officials in the dark. He says most of them are now outraged – now that they have seen the evidence that they should have seen from the beginning.

Not convinced?

In September, 2012, top Israeli scientists including Israel Hanukoglu, PHD, a former science adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, indicated the certificate was a fake. His website even carries instructions for taking apart the fabricated document.

Hanukoglu, an award-winning researcher, is a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology in the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center of Samaria in Ariel, Israel. According to Hanukoglu, the publication “of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reins on the most powerful country of the World.”

Back to Arpaio...

Soon, according to Zullo, certain members of the media, the courts, and congress are going to look very silly. They have been ignoring this, sitting on it, marginalizing it, and flat-out trashing the matter for years. They will soon be seen for what they are. This matter should have been investigated by Congress years ago. It is their constitutional mandate and they ignored it – purposely. This whole thing could have been resolved one way or the other years back. The media blacked it out. But we don’t need the pundit media anymore. We are going around the MSM. We have other venues now. More and more, very important people of constitutional standing are being enlightened and coming on board. Soon, the world will know that we have been correct in this matter all along."

...that says it all. Why do you have to threaten people if he has a birth certificate? Why do you have to threaten people if it is untrue?? Why???
Wow. Why do Birfoons believe these fables?
Nazrat

Jacksonville, FL

#157953 Jun 3, 2013
A friend of mine just started his own business. He manufactures landmines that look like prayer mats. Its doing well.

He says prophets are going through the roof.
Nazrat

Jacksonville, FL

#157954 Jun 3, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
CommieBlaster: Communist Obama Marxist Socialist Maoist ...
www.commieblaster.com/&#8206 ;
Proof Obama is a Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Maoist, Progressive, Islamic, Terrorist, Ineligible Imposter, Usurper.
http://www.commieblaster.com/
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof you are a "Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Maoist, Progressive, Islamic, Terrorist, Ineligible Imposter, Usurper." : YOUR love for Pravda and everything Russian. A century ago, you would've been jailed or, better yet, shot, for treason
Commieblaster is Pravda? LOL you phunny guy!
Rogue Scholar 05

Jacksonville, FL

#157955 Jun 3, 2013
Ah, it is called SUMMER! During the Winter months the trade Winds are at their peak but come Summer the Trade Winds go away and the Doldrums dominate! The Doldrums are also affected by the El Nino Southern Oscillations!
I know the Libtards are grasping at straw to prove Global Warming and I am sure a few Libtards will gulp down the res Kool Aide!

Trade winds drop, and Hawaii gets muggy
By AUDREY McAVOY | Associated Press

HONOLULU (AP) Part of what makes living in Hawaii so pleasant is the gentle breeze. Arriving from the northeast, it's light enough that it is barely noticeable but strong enough to chase away the humidity.
It's a natural draw to the outdoors. It is not uncommon to show up at a house to find its residents relaxing out in the covered porch or in the car port, not their living room, and enjoying the cooling winds and a cool drink.
Nowadays, experts say, these breezes, called trade winds, are declining, a drop that's slowly changing life across the islands.
The affects can be seen from the relatively minor, such as residents unaccustomed to the humidity complaining about the weather and having to use their fans and air conditioning more often, to the more consequential, including winds being too weak to blow away volcanic smog.
http://news.yahoo.com/trade-winds-drop-hawaii...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157956 Jun 3, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
A friend of mine just started his own business. He manufactures landmines that look like prayer mats. Its doing well.
He says prophets are going through the roof.
More Christian "love thy neighbour" talk, Rogue? You do know that Moslem share Old Testament prophets with Jews and Christians, now don't you? Oh, they have no modern-day prophets, same as Christians.

Assuming it's a joke, although to you, it surely is not, it's not funny, rather some kind of thigh-slapping cheap beer birther kind of humour.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157957 Jun 3, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
CommieBlaster: Communist Obama Marxist Socialist Maoist ...
www.commieblaster.com/&#8206 ;
Proof Obama is a Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Maoist, Progressive, Islamic, Terrorist, Ineligible Imposter, Usurper.
http://www.commieblaster.com/
<quoted text>
Commieblaster is Pravda? LOL you phunny guy!
Can you understand reading past the grade 2 level? Who said anything about commie-blaster? I referred to her well-documented love, approved by you, of Pravda. Whoever taught you to fly a helicopter must be the most intelligent and best of the best and most patient instructor in the world.

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