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#157815 Jun 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"Unlike Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so doesn't make it so."
-Judge Clay D. Land
"Unlike Al in Wonderland, simply saying something is so doesn't make it is so!"
Rogue Scholar

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#157816 Jun 1, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey Jacqueau, Do you understand "DID"? Your article is dated 2008!!!
Hummmm, isn't 2008 the same year that they changed "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"?
Oh, your link did work, schock, this time.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
2008 was also the year when Christy's gigantic flub-up was exposed.
Hee hee.
Real men don't go "Hee hee". they "Haa haa"!

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#157817 Jun 1, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Where's my Sunoco proof? Look, fabricator and calumniator supreme, why don't you just admit you made it up? Everyone, including your poor loser birther ilk, know it, as they well know that you are wrong on the F-14. Come clean, it's what God wants you to do.
How does a gawdless person like you know what Go thinks? I dew knot profess to know what God thinks!

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#157818 Jun 1, 2013
Sally applied for a job in a Florida lemon grove and seemed to be far too qualified for the job. She had a liberal arts degree from the University of Michigan and had worked as a social worker and a school teacher.

The foreman frowned and said, "I have to ask you, have you had any actual experience in picking lemons?"

"Well, as a matter of fact, I have," she said: "I've been divorced five times, owned three Chryslers and I voted for Obama twice."

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#157819 Jun 1, 2013
Elmer Bendiner was a navigator in a B-17 during WW II. He tells this story of a World War II bombing run over Kassel, Germany and the unexpected result of a direct hit on their gas tanks:

“Our B-17, the "Tondelayo," was barraged by flak from Nazi antiaircraft guns. That was not unusual, but on this particular occasion our gas tanks were hit. Later, as I reflected on the miracle of a 20 millimeter shell piercing the fuel tank without touching off an explosion, our pilot, Bohn Fawkes, told me it was not quite that simple.
“On the morning following the raid, Bohn had gone down to ask our crew chief for that shell as a souvenir of unbelievable luck. The crew chief told Bohn that not just one shell but 11 had been found in the gas tanks! Eleven unexploded shells where only one was sufficient to blast us out of the sky. It was as if the sea had been parted for us. Even after 35 years, so awesome an event leaves me shaken, especially after I heard the rest of the story from Bohn.
“He was told that the shells had been sent to the armorers to be defused. The armorers told him that Intelligence had picked them up. They could not say why at the time, but Bohn eventually sought out the answer.
“Apparently when the armorers opened each of those shells, they found there was no explosive charge. They were as clean as a whistle and just as harmless. Empty? Not all of them! One contained a carefully rolled piece of paper. On it was a scrawl in Czech. The Intelligence people scoured our base for a man who could read Czech. Eventually they found one to decipher the note. It read: "This is all we can do for you now."

Using a conquered people (the Czechs) as slave laborers was not such a good idea.

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#157820 Jun 1, 2013
Don't piss of any Texicans
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dUr1NxJDC94...
Gay Trucker

Kansas City, MO

#157821 Jun 1, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Don't piss of any Texicans
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dUr1NxJDC94...
Hey good buddy, I got me a two stack Pete. If you'll be my boyfriend I'll have a two stack Pete with a homo in the jump seat.
How about good buddy, come on'

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#157822 Jun 1, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Before the Constitution the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. In book one chapter 19,
§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
At this point there can be little doubt that the Framers of our Constitution considered both Blackstone and Vattel, and they choose Vattel over Blackstone. The Founding Fathers placed into Constitutional concept that the loyalty of a Natural Born Citizen is a loyalty can never be claimed by any foreign political power. The only political power that can exclusively claim the loyalty of a natural born citizen is that power that governs of his birth. Vattel by including the parents and place removes all doubt as to where the loyalties of the natural born citizen ought to lie, as Vattel’s definition removes all claims of another foreign power by blood or by soil, and is the only definition that is in accord with Jay’s letter to Washington.
http://birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html
The U. S. Constitution, in Article I, authorized Congress to define and punish “Offences against the Law of Nations,” and the very first Congress passed the Alien Tort Act, which empowers federal courts to entertain civil actions brought by an alien for a tort “committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States.”
The law of nations[Vattels BOOK], Chief Justice Marshall famously said in 1815, is part of the law of our land. Decisions of the courts of other countries, Marshall explained, show how the law of nations is understood elsewhere, and will be considered in determining the rule which is to prevail here. Those decisions, he clarified, while not binding authority for U. S. courts, merit respectful attention for their potential persuasive value.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/speech...
Sorry, but saying, the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” does not make it so. That's so old and debunked. Get a life.

BTW, birthers.org is not an authority.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"Unlike Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so doesn't make it so."
-Judge Clay D. Land

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#157823 Jun 1, 2013
I guess you loony-lefties should not use Google if you want information on how to make pipe bombs or ricin poison letters.
Rogue

Judge Rules GOOGLE Must Comply With FBI’s Warrantless Requests, June 1, 2013

A federal judge has ruled that Google must comply with the FBI’s warrantless requests for confidential user data, despite the search company’s arguments that the secret demands are illegal.

CNET has learned that U.S. District Judge Susan Illston in San Francisco rejected Google’srequest to modify or throw out 19 so-called National Security Letters, a warrantless electronic data-gathering technique used by the FBI that does not need a judge’s approval. Her ruling came after a pair of top FBI officials, including an assistant director, submitted classified affidavits.

The litigation taking place behind closed doors in Illston’s courtroom — a closed-to-the-public hearing was held on May 10 — could set new ground rules curbing the FBI’s warrantless access to information that Internet and other companies hold on behalf of their users. The FBIissued 192,499 of the demands from 2003 to 2006, and 97 percent of NSLs include a mandatory gag order.

Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/2013/06/judge-rules-...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#157824 Jun 1, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Before the Constitution the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. In book one chapter 19,
§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
At this point there can be little doubt that the Framers of our Constitution considered both Blackstone and Vattel, and they choose Vattel over Blackstone. The Founding Fathers placed into Constitutional concept that the loyalty of a Natural Born Citizen is a loyalty can never be claimed by any foreign political power. The only political power that can exclusively claim the loyalty of a natural born citizen is that power that governs of his birth. Vattel by including the parents and place removes all doubt as to where the loyalties of the natural born citizen ought to lie, as Vattel’s definition removes all claims of another foreign power by blood or by soil, and is the only definition that is in accord with Jay’s letter to Washington.
http://birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html
The U. S. Constitution, in Article I, authorized Congress to define and punish “Offences against the Law of Nations,” and the very first Congress passed the Alien Tort Act, which empowers federal courts to entertain civil actions brought by an alien for a tort “committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States.”
The law of nations[Vattels BOOK], Chief Justice Marshall famously said in 1815, is part of the law of our land. Decisions of the courts of other countries, Marshall explained, show how the law of nations is understood elsewhere, and will be considered in determining the rule which is to prevail here. Those decisions, he clarified, while not binding authority for U. S. courts, merit respectful attention for their potential persuasive value.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/speech...
Sorry, BirfoonLady, but if Vattel was the authority on American citizenship, children of Germans immigrants born in Pennsylvania would have been ALIENS throughout US history.

“Is not the child born in this country of German parents a citizen? I am afraid we have got very few citizens in some of the counties of good old Pennsylvania if the children born of German parents are not citizens.”-Senator Lyman Trumbull, Cong. Globe 39th, 1st Sess 498 (1866).

Hee hee.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#157825 Jun 1, 2013
Law men and elected officials "SHOCKED" by new evidence Obama Birth credentials fraudulently and criminally fabricated! Biggest FRAUD in US History!
http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/06/law-men...

FRIENDS,
You've seen the pictures and read about the gigantic migrations of the world into the U.S. during the long Ellis Island era.

Can you even imagine what it will be like if the Senate passes S. 744 and gives green cards to that many and many more in just the next 10 years?

Later in this email, you will see more astounding comparisons of our immigration history with the radical immigration policy being pushed through the U.S. Senate.

Most Americans are asleep about this bill and have no idea how their entire way of life may be about to change forever.
• Will you please share this email with others to educate them and warn them?
• Will you let them know that they can join more than 2 million other Americans who are mounting opposition to S. 744? And that they can do it by going to www.NumbersUSA.com where they will find free tools to use to easily contact their Senators?
• And will you please contact every talk show on radio and TV that you follow and ask them to read the information in this email and to talk about it on air? Look up their websites, post comments, send them emails, phone them. Most hosts have been so busy with the scandal s that they haven't yet focused on the magnitude of 33 million.

You can start doing these things this weekend.

Rumors are that Senate Majority Leader Reid may file this next week to put the bill on the floor on Monday, June 10. We have very little time left to generate the massive public outcry that is necessary to defeat this bill.

The Oversized Amnesty & Immigration Super-Surge Bill

Don't be fooled that this amnesty is like the one the public defeated in 2006 and the other one in 2007.

S. 744 is far worse and far larger, big enough to capsize our society as we have known it.

I am not over-stating the case.

Consider these per/decade immigration numbers that are our country's immigration tradition:

2 -- Do you think your Senators realize that, in the hundred years between our country's first Census in 1790 and 1890, the numerical level of that incredible flow of immigration from Europe that filled the Eastern Seaboard and spread out across the continent was 2 million per decade?

The world had never quite seen a movement like that of masses of people fleeing a crowded continent and completely taking over another. That human flood so covered the land that the U.S. Census Bureau in 1890 declared that there was no more true frontier left in a country that in 1790 had been almost nothing but frontier.

It took 2 million immigrants per decade to do that.

33 -- The Senate is expected in little more than a week to take up S. 744 which would offer lifetime work permits and residency to 33 million citizens of other counntries in the first decade alone -- about 11 million of them being current illegal aliens and another 22 million of them being new immigrants.

Has somebody discovered a new frontier to occupy?

And, yes, if you are able to quickly multiply by 10 decades you see that Senators Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Rubio (R-Fla.) want to cram far more immigrants into our country in the next 10 years than came during the entire century after 1790..

4-- Ellis Island operated primarily through the 1890-1950 period when 4 million immigrants came per decade. This is the immigration that so colors most Americans' sense of our im migration tradition. The frontier and free land were gone, but the number of foreigners arriving here doubled. Sailing into New York harbor past the newly installed Statue of Liberty by the millions, immigrants just kept piling on top of each other in cities across America whose infrastructures were overwhelmed and poverty soared.

CONT

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#157826 Jun 1, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Before the Constitution the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. In book one chapter 19,
§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
At this point there can be little doubt that the Framers of our Constitution considered both Blackstone and Vattel, and they choose Vattel over Blackstone. The Founding Fathers placed into Constitutional concept that the loyalty of a Natural Born Citizen is a loyalty can never be claimed by any foreign political power. The only political power that can exclusively claim the loyalty of a natural born citizen is that power that governs of his birth. Vattel by including the parents and place removes all doubt as to where the loyalties of the natural born citizen ought to lie, as Vattel’s definition removes all claims of another foreign power by blood or by soil, and is the only definition that is in accord with Jay’s letter to Washington.
http://birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html
The U. S. Constitution, in Article I, authorized Congress to define and punish “Offences against the Law of Nations,” and the very first Congress passed the Alien Tort Act, which empowers federal courts to entertain civil actions brought by an alien for a tort “committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States.”
The law of nations[Vattels BOOK], Chief Justice Marshall famously said in 1815, is part of the law of our land. Decisions of the courts of other countries, Marshall explained, show how the law of nations is understood elsewhere, and will be considered in determining the rule which is to prevail here. Those decisions, he clarified, while not binding authority for U. S. courts, merit respectful attention for their potential persuasive value.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/speech...
According to Vattel, children born in a country of not two citizens are aliens (not citizens). Do the math. By 2289, almost no one in the US would be a citizen; we would be a country of ALIENS. By 35 generations there would be essentially no persons born citizens as virtually all would be descended from at least one non-citizen.

Get real.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#157827 Jun 1, 2013
Yes, multiply by six decades and you will note that far fewer immigrants arrived during the entire Ellis Island era than Senators Menendez (D-N.J.) and Flake (R-Ariz.) are insisting on adding in just a single decade.

2.5 -- around 2 .5 million immigrants arrived in the decade of 1950s. Labor markets were tight. Businesses innovated to produce more per worker. Wages rose rapidly. America became a true middle-class society. When Congress didn't meet demand for labor with more foreign workers, employers turned to the country's historic underemployed Black population, enabling the great successes of the Civil Rights movement in this and the next decade.

3.3 -- around 3.3 million immigrants arrived in the decade of the 1960s. In the middle of the decade, Congress changed immigration laws to give every country equal access to the system but promised that the numbers would not rise more than a half-million for a decade.

4.5 -- around 4.5 million immigrants arrived in the decade of the 1970s as chain migration categories produced increases far above the promises of those who pushed the 1965 law.

7.3 -- around 7.3 million immigrants were given green cards in the decade of the 1980s. In the middle of the decade, Congress passed an amnesty for some 3 million illegal aliens and promised enforcement to stop future illegal immigration. The enforcement never really happened, but employers got another big increase in the legal workforce.

10 -- In 1990, Congress approved a surge in green cards at the request of businesses who warned that they faced labor shortages in a couple more decades. But the 1990 law provided for a bi-partisan U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform to study the surge to see if it had any negative impacts on American workers as the opponents of the bill argued. In 1995, the commission concluded that the surge was depressing wages and harming the most vulnerable member of the national community and recommended cutting immigration to something like 5 million a decade. Under great pressure from business lobbyists, Congress in 1996 turned down the recommendations and has kept the 1990 Immigration Surge in place, on a pace of adding more than 10 million immigrants per decade (1990-2012).

33 -Shall I remind you that even in light of the constant increases in immigration from traditional numbers,Senators Durbin (D-IL) and Graham (R-S.C.) are iinsisting on a SUPER SURGE over the 1990 Immigration Surge?

They and their Gang of Eight pals Sen. Bennett (D-Colo.) and Sen. McCain (R-Ariz.) argue that the reason the 1986 amnesty didn't work is that Congress didn't increase legal immigration to handle the demand for extra labor.

Would you help me get the above numbers to these Senators?

Congress has done nothing but increase immigration every decade for a half-century. This is a truth that almost nobody in the news media will let the public know. In fact, many reporters simply quote the Gang of Eight and their supoorters as they say that we have a big illegal immigrant population because Congress in recent decades has been becoming increasingly restrictive on lawful immigration!

LOOK AT THE NUMBERS! The immigration numbers shown above don't lie. And it is because le gal immigration has been growing so rapidly over the last half-century that the most popular answer for Americans on the standard question about immigration is that the numbers are "too high."

This S. 744 Oversized-Amnesty & Immigration Super-Surge bill would give out nearly half as many green cards in a single decade as every person who has permanently settled in this country over the previous FOUR CENTURIES -- since the founding of Jamestown in 1607.

If you have a Senator who is on the fence about whether to vote for this bill, make sure he/she understands THE MAGNITUDE.

CONT

Since: May 10

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#157828 Jun 1, 2013
Will the next Director of the FBI investigate his boss?
Either Obama is smart or he just made another big mistake!!!

President Obama is expected to name former Justice Department official James Comey as the next director of the FBI, sources tell NPR. Comey is a Republican who has a reputation for bipartisanship and even-handedness.
http://www.npr.org/2013/05/30/187227968/obama...

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#157829 Jun 1, 2013
Ask the Senators' staff if they know how many green cards are being offered by this bill. Are they really stopping to count the cost before deciding how to vote? They can't evaluate the costs without realizing what 33 million really looks like.

HERE IS WHAT ADDS UP TO 33 MILLION Because the Gang of Eight say they never took time to add up how many green cards would be handed out under S. 744, many people are skeptical that the 33 million can be right.

Check out the detailed analysis of 26 immigration categories at: https://www.numbersusa.com/content/files/10-Y...

The 33 million green cards offered by S. 744 in the first decade would go to:
• around 11 million for illegal aliens (could be millions more if the official estimate is wrong)
• around 11 million in continuation of elevated flows from 1990 surge policy
• around 5 million from end of numerical limits on people waiting in line (mostly chain migration)
• around 6 million from new and expanded categories

Here's the 30-second video raising deep moral questions about what kind of national community we are going to be.

CLICK ON THE PICTURE TO VIEW VIDEO


This video has been running on local TV news in 16 states.

Help spread the message by sharing this email with others.

Will we abandon 20 million of our fellow Americans who need a job by allowing lobbyists for wealthy special interests to persuade the Senate to pass the immigration bill?

roy beck, NumbersUSA President
Sat, June 1st

PEOPLE THE SENATE WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. IF THIS "SHAMNESTY" PASSES WE CAN KISS OUR COUNTRY GOODBYE. WE WILL BECOME A THIRD WORLD DUMP LIKE MEXICO. PLEASE CALL YOUR 2 SENATORS.

JOIN ME ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stand-With-Sou...

Since: May 10

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#157830 Jun 1, 2013
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), Pub.L. 99–603, 100 Stat. 3359, enacted November 6, 1986, also Simpson-Mazzoli Act, is an Act of Congress which reformed United States immigration law.

In brief the act

required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status.
made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit unauthorized immigrants.
legalized certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants.
legalized illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt. About three million undocumented immigrants were granted legal status.
Let's see, did employers to attest to their employees' immigration status? NO!
Are employers prosecuted for knowingly hire or recruit unauthorized immigrants? NO!

So, why should we trust any new bill that gives amnesty to illegal aliens?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#157831 Jun 1, 2013
Fed Up wrote:
Ask the Senators' staff if they know how many green cards are being offered by this bill. Are they really stopping to count the cost before deciding how to vote? They can't evaluate the costs without realizing what 33 million really looks like.
HERE IS WHAT ADDS UP TO 33 MILLION Because the Gang of Eight say they never took time to add up how many green cards would be handed out under S. 744, many people are skeptical that the 33 million can be right.
Check out the detailed analysis of 26 immigration categories at: https://www.numbersusa.com/content/files/10-Y...
The 33 million green cards offered by S. 744 in the first decade would go to:
• around 11 million for illegal aliens (could be millions more if the official estimate is wrong)
• around 11 million in continuation of elevated flows from 1990 surge policy
• around 5 million from end of numerical limits on people waiting in line (mostly chain migration)
• around 6 million from new and expanded categories
Here's the 30-second video raising deep moral questions about what kind of national community we are going to be.
CLICK ON THE PICTURE TO VIEW VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =y7xqryEuaG4XX
This video has been running on local TV news in 16 states.
Help spread the message by sharing this email with others.
Will we abandon 20 million of our fellow Americans who need a job by allowing lobbyists for wealthy special interests to persuade the Senate to pass the immigration bill?
roy beck, NumbersUSA President
Sat, June 1st
PEOPLE THE SENATE WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. IF THIS "SHAMNESTY" PASSES WE CAN KISS OUR COUNTRY GOODBYE. WE WILL BECOME A THIRD WORLD DUMP LIKE MEXICO. PLEASE CALL YOUR 2 SENATORS.
JOIN ME ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stand-With-Sou...
Let's give green cards to young qualified foreign people for technical jobs because we know that older (over 45) citizens are senile and incompetent and should FOAD. That's the opinion of big American business, the heroes of the Republican Party.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157832 Jun 1, 2013
What happened when QEI ended in 2010? The stock market took a dive and interest rates shot up!
What happened when QEII ended in 2011? The stock market took a dive and interest rates shot up!
Now, what do you think will happen when QEIII ends?
Do you really think it will be any different this next time.
Rich people will be protected. It is the average Joe that will take it in the shorts,,,,, again!!!
When will Obama ever learn?!? NEVER!!!

The Bull Market’s Dangerous Illusion
By John Maxfield | June 1, 2013

It's hard to bemoan a bull market, but there's reason to believe that we should. Since the last major correction in the summer of 2011, during which the S&P 500 (SNPINDEX:^GSPC ) lost 17% of its value over the course of a month, the broader market is up by 46%. While this is great for anyone who holds stocks, as I and most of our readers do, it's fueled a dangerous illusion of economic prosperity that simply isn't reflected in the underlying economy.

How many times over the last few months have you read about the need for the Federal Reserve to begin tapering its monetary support for the economy? Chances are, a lot. The mainstream financial media can't seem to go a day without postulating if and when the central bank will begin reducing its monthly purchases of long-term treasuries and mortgage-backed securities that are designed to drive down borrowing costs and spur employment.

What's causing this angst? The only reasonable explanation is the media's unhealthy obsession with the daily, weekly, and monthly fluctuations in the stock market. This pressure has built up so much, in fact, that the chairman of the Fed, Ben Bernanke, felt obligated to address the impact of monetary policy on asset prices in a recent speech titled "Monitoring the Financial System."
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/06...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#157833 Jun 1, 2013
Immigrant men have a higher rate of work than native born men in this country.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#157834 Jun 1, 2013
"Despite the fact that a large share of immigrants have few years of schooling, most immigrants do work. In fact, the share of immigrant men holding a job is higher than native-born men."

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