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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157634 May 31, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
FIFY!
FIFY!= "I am forced to agree that my hero Reagan did just that but I'm hoping my reply (FIFY) will look smart and snappy". LMAO (LRS tm reg'd)
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#157635 May 31, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
<quoted text>Bush and Obama are in the same cabal. You go after Bush, I am exposing Obama's treason.
Bobbie exposes himself to children at the bus stop
Glock

Austin, TX

#157637 May 31, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
And you're Glock. Most sane people would rather be a POS.
Eff off you socialist, frog scumbag....

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#157638 May 31, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea and don't care. Nut jobs are nut jobs. You care about their extremities. I don't
Judging by Rogue's posts, he also cares about their appendages.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157639 May 31, 2013
North Korea wrote:
<quoted text>
:
What stupid Americans are!
While we and our friends in Iran make nuclear bomb, stupid American worry about birth certificate.
We hope Democrats don't get full control.
We like republican drama instead.
LMAO (LRS tm reg'd)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#157641 May 31, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! No that would be you who is confused.
The US consists of landmass, but not all the people in that landmass are "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)", these would be the aliens.
In order for those aliens to become "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)", they would have to be naturalized.
Geez, Dufus, I do not see 'NOT ALL PERSONS' in the definition.

jurisdiction, n.(14c) 1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory;

But the definition which has been understood since before our independence was never valid according to Dufus dale's idiosyncratic reading of the Constitution.

Emmerich de Vattel:
84. Jurisdiction.

The sovereignty united to the domain establishes the jurisdiction of the nation in her territories, or the country that belongs to her. It is her province, or that of her sovereign, to exercise justice in all the places under her jurisdiction, to take cognisance of the crimes committed, and the differences that arise in the country.

According to Dufus Dale, Black's Law Dictionary has the definition all wrong, Vattel was clueless, and the founders did not understand their own constitution. Ditto for the USSC throughout US history.

Dufus Dale is simply jerking off.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dufus Dale confuses jurisdiction with landmass. Retarded.
<quoted text>

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157642 May 31, 2013
President Obama can not afford to lose Holder. Eric Holder knows where all of Obama skeletons are at and they are both in deep kimchi. If Holder is forced out it is much more likely Obama will also be forced out so Obama has no recourse but to be loyal to him.
And one more point. When Pres. Obama had a Super Majority Senate when he appointed Holder and now he has a slim majority and it will be much more difficult to get another political hack Democrat in as the Attorney General.
In other words, Pres. Obama is on a narrow ledge with a long fall to the bottom.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157643 May 31, 2013
Las Cruces retiree wrote:
<quoted text>
I would love to see Obama impeached (and I think he should be impeached); however, that means that absent minded Joe would be the commander in chief. If nothing happens with the impeachment,at least Obama still has a respectable reputation overseas.
That is why they did not convict Clinton in the Senate impeachment trial. We would have had Owl "Hoot hoot" Gore move into the White House and no one wanted that!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157644 May 31, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
<quoted text>Bush and Obama are in the same cabal. You go after Bush,
learn to read wrote:
I am exposing Obama's treason.
Bobbie exposes himself to children at the bus stop
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Judging by Rogue's posts, he also cares about their appendages.
And learn to read never mentions people's appendages? Hypocrite!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157646 May 31, 2013
This is what over taxation gets you. The rich move to countries that have lower taxes! Like Florida, USA! I know several Germans who retired here.
They not only enjoy our weather but also our low taxes and cost of living!!!
Rogue

Germany has revised down its population by 1.5 million to 80.2 million in the first census since before the country's 1990 reunification, the federal statistics office said on Friday.

BERLIN: Germany has revised down its population by 1.5 million to 80.2 million in the first census since before the country's 1990 reunification, the federal statistics office said on Friday.

The new data shows that Germany's population is not only ageing and shrinking - a key challenge for Europe's biggest economy - but also smaller than previously thought and with fewer foreigners.

The new census for the European Union's most populous country measured the number of people who were living in Germany on May 9, 2011, said the federal office Destatis.

It was Germany's first census in more than two decades and revised down by 1.8 per cent the previously assumed population of 81.7 million.

That figure had long been deemed unreliable because the last census figures were taken in the former West Germany in 1987 and in the former East Germany in 1981.

Of the new total, 74 million inhabitants or 92.3 per cent were German nationals. About 6.2 million or 7.7 per cent were foreign nationals - 1.1 million fewer than previously thought.

Another 15 million people, or 19 per cent of the population, had a first- or second-generation immigrant background.

About 40 million people were in paid work and 2.1 million were out of work. In terms of accommodation, almost 46 per cent of households lived in their own homes, while more than half were renting.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ger...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157647 May 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
President Obama can not afford to lose Holder. Eric Holder knows where all of Obama skeletons are at and they are both in deep kimchi. If Holder is forced out it is much more likely Obama will also be forced out so Obama has no recourse but to be loyal to him.
And one more point. When Pres. Obama had a Super Majority Senate when he appointed Holder and now he has a slim majority and it will be much more difficult to get another political hack Democrat in as the Attorney General.
In other words, Pres. Obama is on a narrow ledge with a long fall to the bottom.
Rogue, why did or do you never mention Alberto Gonzales who made Holder look like an altar boy? Did you ever wonder why none of the Halliburton companies and sub-companies can be sued for a host of illegal and crooked actions in Iraq and Afghanistan? Have you by any chance read the scathing Vanity Fair Report on Halliburton supplying expired foods and faulty bullet-proof vests to troops, of Halliburton spun-off companies , mostly security ones that regularly overcharged and killed indiscriminately and why no one was allowed to sue? Read up on Alvarez. Very educational.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157649 May 31, 2013
North Korea wrote:
<quoted text>
:
See what I mean?
Bomb almost finish and stupid republican talk about holder protecting black President.
republican forget about republican President Nixon pardoned by Vice President Ford.
We remember that shocker!
Anyway, we hope like poster say Democrat no have full control because we afraid of President Obama and drone attack.
We also remember while President Clinton attack Afghanistan terrorist training camp in 1997, republican criticize him for taking away attention from real issue; Monica Lewinski.
Now today, same republican say 911 happen because President Clinton not do enough to stop them when President.
Ooooo, republican drama give me Korean size headache! Ufda!
And who pardoned Bill Clinton? Clinton signed a consent decree and paid a small fine. Have you ever heard of a consent decree in a criminal case? Sure, they have them all the time in civil lawsuits but I have never heard of one, before or since, in a CRIMINAL CASE! And that is essentially a pardon as he has already been punished without be convicted so he can never be tried!!!

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#157650 May 31, 2013
Have no fear.
The the Pigs of Pyonyang couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157651 May 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
learn to read wrote:
I am exposing Obama's treason.
Bobbie exposes himself to children at the bus stop
<quoted text>
And learn to read never mentions people's appendages? Hypocrite!
Not as often as you've mentioned Clinton's, that's for sure. As a matter of fact, I don't recall, except to quote you or a birther, Learn to Read ever mentioning anyone's appendage. Me neither, except to respond to your Clinton appendage fantasies. We do not initiate that kind of talk, just birthers. It's part of the patended tea party and birther culture and language.
Pdamerica org

East Islip, NY

#157652 May 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
How many times have you Loony-Lefties claimed that "local weather" is not climate? According to Dr. John Christy, globally the troposphere did not changed from 1998 to 2008 but since then it has cooled over a half a degree centigrade (about one degree Fahrenheit) and that is a lot!
All Dr, James Hansen has proven is that the Urban Heat Island effect is real and the only thing Dr. Michael Mann has proven is that at sometimes the growing conditions are better than at other times.
And the NCIDC stopped recording Antarctic ice all together!
Wake up and smell the coffee.

The Artic Ice is melting rapidly and there is snow in places like Texas, that never happened before.

The Science is correct and the corporate Rightwing Republicans are liars.

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Former Surgeon General Says Politics Took Priority
Bush More Corrupt Than Nixon: July 12, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2uyndl
Richard H. Carmona told a House hearing Tuesday that he believed his task as surgeon general from 2002 to 2006 was to improve "health literacy" using the best medical and scientific data he could collect. But top Bush administration officials, Carmona testified, had other ideas. The following are excerpts from testimony by Carmona -- a former Army Special Forces medic, hospital chief executive and university professor -- before the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform:

"The vetting was done by political appointees who were specifically there to be able to spin, if you will, my words in such a way that would be preferable to a political or an ideologically preconceived notion that had nothing to do with science.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#157653 May 31, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, and the First Congress was clueless and the USSC and every court since.
Moron.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Sure looks that way doesn't it, but I am only interested in the biggest violation of the US Constitution that the USSC has handed us (Ark v. US).

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157654 May 31, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
This is what over taxation gets you. The rich move to countries that have lower taxes! Like Florida, USA! I know several Germans who retired here.
They not only enjoy our weather but also our low taxes and cost of living!!!
Rogue
Germany has revised down its population by 1.5 million to 80.2 million in the first census since before the country's 1990 reunification, the federal statistics office said on Friday.
BERLIN: Germany has revised down its population by 1.5 million to 80.2 million in the first census since before the country's 1990 reunification, the federal statistics office said on Friday.
The new data shows that Germany's population is not only ageing and shrinking - a key challenge for Europe's biggest economy - but also smaller than previously thought and with fewer foreigners.
The new census for the European Union's most populous country measured the number of people who were living in Germany on May 9, 2011, said the federal office Destatis.
It was Germany's first census in more than two decades and revised down by 1.8 per cent the previously assumed population of 81.7 million.
That figure had long been deemed unreliable because the last census figures were taken in the former West Germany in 1987 and in the former East Germany in 1981.
Of the new total, 74 million inhabitants or 92.3 per cent were German nationals. About 6.2 million or 7.7 per cent were foreign nationals - 1.1 million fewer than previously thought.
Another 15 million people, or 19 per cent of the population, had a first- or second-generation immigrant background.
About 40 million people were in paid work and 2.1 million were out of work. In terms of accommodation, almost 46 per cent of households lived in their own homes, while more than half were renting.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ger...
You are so full of it, again, once more extrapolating from your own made-up fantasies.

A while back, I asked you to compare the tax levy of Florida with, let's say, NY, CA. Still waiting. Total, meaning, income tax, state and federal sales tax. Yes, still waiting. Yet, you must have the figures at hand, surely, as you STATED that Americans and their corporations were gravitating to Florida because of its lower tax base. Well, let's have it.

As to your demographical study of Germany, it's, as per all your ramblings, totally off-base. So, the population of Germany is down by about 1.5 million because of high taxes and immigration to the USA, notably Florida. Well, well, impressive, Rogue. Who would have thought that 1.5 million German retirees would immigrate to the US. And are aged people allowed to even immigrate to the US? Do you think that some of those Germans would have a winter home in Florida because of the climate and low prices? They don't pay taxes, Rogue, so that can't be it.

The German population numbers are stagnating. Many reasons of which you are of course ignorant. Overpopulation is one. 80 million people in a country half the size of Texas. Running out of room, Rogue. Also, one if not the most prosperous industrialized nation on earth, high earners, who can afford to move around, but not necessarily emigrate. Spain, Portugal, Morocco, are brimming with well-to-do Germans.Birth rates are the lowest in the world.

Did you also note the large number of non-Germans living and working in Germany? Much much higher per capita than that of the US. And just imagine, with the Schengen treaty, how many more illegals.

Please refrain from opining on other countries, Rogue unless you some day decide to read something more than a hateful paragraph in one of your crappy media.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157655 May 31, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue, why did or do you never mention Alberto Gonzales who made Holder look like an altar boy? Did you ever wonder why none of the Halliburton companies and sub-companies can be sued for a host of illegal and crooked actions in Iraq and Afghanistan? Have you by any chance read the scathing Vanity Fair Report on Halliburton supplying expired foods and faulty bullet-proof vests to troops, of Halliburton spun-off companies , mostly security ones that regularly overcharged and killed indiscriminately and why no one was allowed to sue? Read up on Alvarez. Very educational.
Ooooo Oooo, Halliburton does not make bullet-proof vests!!! And you are totally clueless to "No bid contracts" and if you had any knowledge on the subject is they have a billing process which includes an arbitration system.
Oh, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama also did No Bid Contracts with ... Halliburton!!!
As far as rules of engagement, there are always "accident"! The happen to police all the time. Twice here in Florida last year police entered houses without warrants and shot and killed homeowners and the police will eventually lose in CIVIL COURT and have to pay!
Two years ago here in Jacksonville we had a cop doing 98 mph in a 45 mph zone without his emergency lights on and he T-boned a pickup killing the driver. He was tried and convicted of vehicular manslaughter! WHY? Well, he claimed he was chasing a speeder but his dash camera was not on and the dashcam comes on when you turn your blue lights on!!!
I have brought this up several times but you continue to bring up the same BIGOTED remarks! Get a brain!!!

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#157656 May 31, 2013
Nixon not pardoned by vice-president.
Nixon pardoned by President Ford, chop chop.
Pdamerica org

East Islip, NY

#157657 May 31, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Not as often as you've mentioned Clinton's, that's for sure. As a matter of fact, I don't recall, except to quote you or a birther, Learn to Read ever mentioning anyone's appendage. Me neither, except to respond to your Clinton appendage fantasies. We do not initiate that kind of talk, just birthers. It's part of the patended tea party and birther culture and language.
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