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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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#157450 May 29, 2013
IAVA org wrote:
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The elites almost always are never held accountable.
Would you like me to add Obama to the list for his Birth Certificate?
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Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
Can you explain what Nixon had to do with the Watergate break in? He had no prior knowledge or consent .... but he did try and cover it up so he should have been removed from office!
Can you explain what Reagan/Bush had to do with Iran-Contra? Tye Dems looker hard but found no evidence that either one knew anything about it until after the fact.
Now, can you tell us about Bush/Cheney and the WMD in Iraq? He did not lie as EVERYONE agreed that Iraq had WMDs. To lie one must know that they are saying is not truthful.
Now, why did the Senate not convict Clinton in his impeachment trial? Clinton did commit perjury in a federal courtroom, perjury in a federal grand jury, did obstruct justice, did conspire with Monica to obstruct justice by hiding her DNA stained blue dress, did solicit a false affidavit from Monica, conspire with Monica to obtain a false affidavit from Linda Tripp and ... submitted two false affidavits to court as evidence. Hummm, that seems like Bill committed at least seven felonies but you are cool with that as it was only about sex.
Tell us, in the impeachment charges, was sex even mentioned ONCE?
They will probably not go ahead with impeachment proceedings on Obama because the RINOs in charge of the House do not have the guts and the Democrats control the Senate..... at least until January 2015!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

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#157451 May 29, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! It still doesn't change the fact, aliens have never been subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution, if this were not so, an alien would have the same rights and responsibilities to the US Constitution as that of a US citizen.
It shows that Play Law is a pipe dream.
wojar wrote:
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Nonsense.
“In short, the judgment in the case of The Exchange declared, as incontrovertible principles, that the jurisdiction of every nation within its own territory is exclusive and absolute, and is susceptible of no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 686 (1898)

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#157452 May 29, 2013
IAVA org wrote:
Information Control: Rupert Murdoch and the Media Moguls
http://tinyurl.com/ptf7ck / November 09, 2006
Today, more than ever, our national climate and economy is determined by our access to one thing: information. Companies who control the distribution of information have developed into some of the most lucrative businesses in the United States and the world.
More than any other individual, Rupert Murdoch may be responsible for fueling this intense interest in sensationalism and the tabloid sensibility that now pervades the media in the United States. Murdoch is responsible for launching A Current Affair, a gaudy newsmagazine TV show that became the prototype for all tabloid television programs to follow. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7677...
Hummmm, Afraid of the truth, are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

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#157453 May 29, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! It still doesn't change the fact, aliens have never been subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution, if this were not so, an alien would have the same rights and responsibilities to the US Constitution as that of a US citizen.

[QUOTE who="wojar"]
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Nonsense.
“In short, the judgment in the case of The Exchange declared, as incontrovertible principles, that the jurisdiction of every nation within its own territory is exclusive and absolute, and is susceptible of no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 686 (1898)
“no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”

That means the US never needed any permission vis a vis aliens via treaty as its jurisdiction has always been exclusive and absolute.

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#157454 May 29, 2013
IAVA org wrote:
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Obviously you do not have a party who represents your views.
NOT ONE Republican voted against the Resolution that states Obama was born in Hawaii.
Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are liars and propagandist.
Sincerely,
Josef Goebbels
Congress: Yes, Obama Was Born in Hawaii ( 378 - 0 )
July 28, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/lhngae
Yesterday, an innocuous-sounding resolution in honor of the 50th anniversary of Hawaiian statehood came up for vote on the House floor.
The resolution from Hawaii Democrat Neil Abercrombie, which Greg Sargent first reported, included this line: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii…"
Why is that notable? Because it's just the sort of claim that angers the birthers – the movement of folks who believe, against overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that President Obama was not really born in Hawaii, and is thus not a U.S. citizen.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/28/polit...
I hate to tell you that not one Democrat in the U.S. Congress voted on any resolution that Obama was an NBC!
Justice Dale

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#157455 May 29, 2013
wojar wrote:
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It shows that Play Law is a pipe dream.
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LMAO!!! You wish it were only Play Law, or a pipe dream, but that is OK, you only post what you are told to post.

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#157456 May 29, 2013
IAVA org wrote:
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"Our National Debt is up Three Trillion Dollars under George W. Bush!" / http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
You are a good Libtard because you are at least the tenth Libtard to post that same garbage on this forum.
Soooo during Bush's EIGHT years the National Debt went up three trillion dollars (not good) but in the first FOUR years of Obama it went up SIX trillion dollars and you think that is GOOD?!?
Justice Dale

United States

#157457 May 29, 2013
wojar wrote:
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“no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”
That means the US never needed any permission vis a vis aliens via treaty as its jurisdiction has always been exclusive and absolute.
LMAO!!! The US Constitution imposed the limitations itself with the first sentence of the 14th amendment, the only people that are taxed by the US Constitution are the citizens of the USA.

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#157458 May 29, 2013
The Republican Party will not miss this sorry azz!
Rogue

Chafee Plans to Run for Re-Election in R.I. as a Democrat By Annie Linskey - May 29, 2013

Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee, an independent, plans to seek re-election next year as a Democrat and will formally join the party tomorrow.
Christian Vareika, a Chafee spokesman, said the governor would sign the required papers at Warwick City Hall.

Top Democrats embraced the 60-year-old leader.
“I’m delighted to hear that Governor Chafee is joining the Democratic Party,” President Barack Obama said in a statement released today by the Democratic National Committee.“I enjoyed working with Linc when he was a Republican in the United States Senate, and I look forward to continuing that collaboration.”
The former Republican U.S. Senator from the Ocean State served as a co-chairman of Obama’s re-election campaign last year. While almost half of Rhode Island voters are independent, Democratic registrations outnumber Republican by about 4-to-1, and the party dominates the state legislature. Chafee said in an April interview he was considering a switch to seek re-election.
“Being a solo practitioner, as an independent, I enjoy the status,” he said.“But the practical realities sometimes are reason to think about options.”
A Brown University poll in February showed just 26 percent of voters approved of Chafee’s job performance, the lowest rating of any U.S. governor, according to the New York Times. The Feb. 21-23 survey of 593 registered voters had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-29/chaf...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

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#157459 May 29, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! The US Constitution imposed the limitations itself with the first sentence of the 14th amendment, the only people that are taxed by the US Constitution are the citizens of the USA.
It might seem that way if you believe in the Fantasy Play Law definition of jurisdiction. Sorry. Get help. Take your meds.
wojar wrote:
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“no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”
That means the US never needed any permission vis a vis aliens via treaty as its jurisdiction has always been exclusive and absolute.

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#157460 May 29, 2013
Hummm, tornado hits Italy. Must be Global Warming!
The Telegraph

Tornado leaves trail of devastation in Italy
A tornado rips through the Italian township of Cavenago di Brianza, some 15 miles northeast of Milan, overturning lorries and damaging buildings.
goto to watch video
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...
Justice Dale

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#157461 May 29, 2013
wojar wrote:
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It might seem that way if you believe in the Fantasy Play Law definition of jurisdiction. Sorry. Get help. Take your meds.
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LMAO!!! It doesn't seem that way, it is that way! Aliens have never been 'and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)", this is why we make reciprocal treaties with their countries.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#157462 May 29, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! It doesn't seem that way, it is that way! Aliens have never been 'and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof (US Constitution)", this is why we make reciprocal treaties with their countries.
Sorry, Dufus, but the USSC in 1812 made it perfectly clear that US jurisdiction within its own territories is exclusive and absolute, not depending upon treaties or anything not imposed by the nation itself.

So the claim that the Preamble limits US jurisdiction to citizens only, goes up in Play Law pipe smoke.

The 14th amendment uses the term, "jurisdiction" in the same sense as understood according to the Act March 26, 1790, without redefinition. So you are pissing in the wind.

“In short, the judgment in the case of The Exchange declared, as incontrovertible principles, that the jurisdiction of every nation within its own territory is exclusive and absolute, and is susceptible of no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 686 (1898)

“From the first organization of the national government under the constitution, the naturalization acts of the United States, in providing for the admission of aliens to citizenship by judicial proceedings, uniformly required every applicant to have resided for a certain time ‘within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States,’ and thus applied the words ‘under the jurisdiction of the United States' to aliens residing here before they had taken an oath to support the constitution of the United States, or had renounced allegiance to a foreign government. Acts March 26, 1790, c. 3 (1 Stat. 103); January 29, 1795, c. 20,§ 1 (1 Stat. 414); June 18, 1798, c. 54,§§ 1, 6 (1 Stat. 566, 568); April 14, 1802, c. 28,§ 1 (2 Stat. 153); March 22, 1816, c. 32,§ 1 (3 Stat. 258); May 24, 1828, c. 116,§ 2 (4 Stat. 310); Rev. St.§ 2165. And, from 1795, the provisions of those acts, which granted citizenship to foreign-born children of American parents, described such children as ‘born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.’ Acts Jan. 29, 1795, c. 20,§ 3 (1 Stat. 415); April 14, 1802, c. 28,§ 4 (2 Stat. 155); February 10, 1855, c. 71 (10 Stat. 604); Rev. St.§§ 1993, 2172. Thus congress, when dealing with the question of citizenship in that aspect, treated aliens residing in this country as ‘under the jurisdiction of the United States,’ and American parents residing abroad as ‘out of the jurisdiction of the United States.’” United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 686-687 (1898)

Sorry, loser.
wojar wrote:
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It might seem that way if you believe in the Fantasy Play Law definition of jurisdiction. Sorry. Get help. Take your meds.
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#157464 May 29, 2013
I don't know what the problem is? The new dam and reservoir will be only thirty odd miles upstream of a reservoir in Sudan. It will provide much needed electric power and water for irrigation during the dry spells. The Ethiopians will have food and power. Is that bad?
And the head waters of the Blue Nile start in Ethiopia. It's THEIR water. I wish they would just shut the f-up!
Rogue

Ethiopia diverts Nile for huge $4.7 bln hydro dam
By Aaron Maasho | Reuters – 17 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/ethiopia-diverts-nile-h...

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#157465 May 29, 2013
I bet the two who voted against this bill are a couple of Humbugs!
Rogue

Ho! Ho! Ho!‘Merry Christmas Bill’ expected to become law in Texas soon The Daily Caller –

After a good amount of hoopla, Texas Governor Rick Perry is expected to quietly sign legislation allowing public schools to celebrate Christmas and other winter holidays plainly and explicitly without fear of lawsuits.
The proposed law, dubbed the “Merry Christmas Bill,” sailed easily through both the Texas House and Senate and now awaits the Perry’s signature, reports the Dallas Observer. Vote tallies were 145-2 in the House and 29-0 in the Senate.
http://news.yahoo.com/ho-ho-ho-merry-christma...
Justice Dale

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#157466 May 29, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Sorry, Dufus, but the USSC in 1812 made it perfectly clear that US jurisdiction within its own territories is exclusive and absolute, not depending upon treaties or anything not imposed by the nation itself.
So the claim that the Preamble limits US jurisdiction to citizens only, goes up in Play Law pipe smoke.
The 14th amendment uses the term, "jurisdiction" in the same sense as understood according to the Act March 26, 1790, without redefinition. So you are pissing in the wind.
“In short, the judgment in the case of The Exchange declared, as incontrovertible principles, that the jurisdiction of every nation within its own territory is exclusive and absolute, and is susceptible of no limitation not imposed by the nation itself;”
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 686 (1898)
“From the first organization of the national government under the constitution, the naturalization acts of the United States, in providing for the admission of aliens to citizenship by judicial proceedings, uniformly required every applicant to have resided for a certain time ‘within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States,’ and thus applied the words ‘under the jurisdiction of the United States' to aliens residing here before they had taken an oath to support the constitution of the United States, or had renounced allegiance to a foreign government. Acts March 26, 1790, c. 3 (1 Stat. 103); January 29, 1795, c. 20,§ 1 (1 Stat. 414); June 18, 1798, c. 54,§§ 1, 6 (1 Stat. 566, 568); April 14, 1802, c. 28,§ 1 (2 Stat. 153); March 22, 1816, c. 32,§ 1 (3 Stat. 258); May 24, 1828, c. 116,§ 2 (4 Stat. 310); Rev. St.§ 2165. And, from 1795, the provisions of those acts, which granted citizenship to foreign-born children of American parents, described such children as ‘born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.’ Acts Jan. 29, 1795, c. 20,§ 3 (1 Stat. 415); April 14, 1802, c. 28,§ 4 (2 Stat. 155); February 10, 1855, c. 71 (10 Stat. 604); Rev. St.§§ 1993, 2172. Thus congress, when dealing with the question of citizenship in that aspect, treated aliens residing in this country as ‘under the jurisdiction of the United States,’ and American parents residing abroad as ‘out of the jurisdiction of the United States.’” United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 686-687 (1898)
Sorry, loser.
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LMAO!!! You posted all of this crap yesterday, go back and read my replies!!!
Oh, I get it, if you can't dazzle me with your brilliance, then try to baffle me with your BS!!!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157467 May 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The Republican Party will not miss this sorry azz!
Rogue
Chafee Plans to Run for Re-Election in R.I. as a Democrat By Annie Linskey - May 29, 2013
Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee, an independent, plans to seek re-election next year as a Democrat and will formally join the party tomorrow.
Christian Vareika, a Chafee spokesman, said the governor would sign the required papers at Warwick City Hall.
Top Democrats embraced the 60-year-old leader.
“I’m delighted to hear that Governor Chafee is joining the Democratic Party,” President Barack Obama said in a statement released today by the Democratic National Committee.“I enjoyed working with Linc when he was a Republican in the United States Senate, and I look forward to continuing that collaboration.”
The former Republican U.S. Senator from the Ocean State served as a co-chairman of Obama’s re-election campaign last year. While almost half of Rhode Island voters are independent, Democratic registrations outnumber Republican by about 4-to-1, and the party dominates the state legislature. Chafee said in an April interview he was considering a switch to seek re-election.
“Being a solo practitioner, as an independent, I enjoy the status,” he said.“But the practical realities sometimes are reason to think about options.”
A Brown University poll in February showed just 26 percent of voters approved of Chafee’s job performance, the lowest rating of any U.S. governor, according to the New York Times. The Feb. 21-23 survey of 593 registered voters had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-29/chaf...
Hard to swallow, eh? Well, proves once more that it's never to late to see the light. Chafee's Road to Damascus, no?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157468 May 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You are a good Libtard because you are at least the tenth Libtard to post that same garbage on this forum.
Soooo during Bush's EIGHT years the National Debt went up three trillion dollars (not good) but in the first FOUR years of Obama it went up SIX trillion dollars and you think that is GOOD?!?
And let's pretend, just for the hell of it, that GWB had been re-elected in 2008, how much would the national debt have been?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157469 May 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Can you explain what Nixon had to do with the Watergate break in? He had no prior knowledge or consent .... but he did try and cover it up so he should have been removed from office!
Can you explain what Reagan/Bush had to do with Iran-Contra? Tye Dems looker hard but found no evidence that either one knew anything about it until after the fact.
Now, can you tell us about Bush/Cheney and the WMD in Iraq? He did not lie as EVERYONE agreed that Iraq had WMDs. To lie one must know that they are saying is not truthful.
Now, why did the Senate not convict Clinton in his impeachment trial? Clinton did commit perjury in a federal courtroom, perjury in a federal grand jury, did obstruct justice, did conspire with Monica to obstruct justice by hiding her DNA stained blue dress, did solicit a false affidavit from Monica, conspire with Monica to obtain a false affidavit from Linda Tripp and ... submitted two false affidavits to court as evidence. Hummm, that seems like Bill committed at least seven felonies but you are cool with that as it was only about sex.
Tell us, in the impeachment charges, was sex even mentioned ONCE?
They will probably not go ahead with impeachment proceedings on Obama because the RINOs in charge of the House do not have the guts and the Democrats control the Senate..... at least until January 2015!!!
How do you know Nixon had no prior knowledge of the Watergate break-in? Were you there when a group of men decided to do it? Do you know for sure Nixon was not in on it? I certainly would never say he was or was not. I don't know. You do? You can ascertain he was not? Really?
Grand Birther

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#157470 May 29, 2013
Ricin tainted letter sent to Mayor Bloomberg?

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