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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#157138 May 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You wrote : "Wealthy people will never become poor because they have the Congress working for them"
All true, but aren't you forgetting the hordes of indoctrinated serfs like Rogue and company who, amazingly, are not even paid by the richest of the rich to defend them. Why, those very rich wouldn't even give them the time of day. Or they would, but would charge them for it. Just mind-boggling.
You hit another Grand Slam Home Run my friend.

Rogue is an apologist for the wealthiest 0.1% percentile who do not need his help.

Limbaugh laughs all the way to the bank.

LOL

Koch brothers’ plans for 2012: Spend $88 million
2/11/11 / http://tinyurl.com/4pk8w8n
In an expansion of their political footprint, the billionaire Koch brothers plan to contribute and steer a total of $88 million to conservative causes during the 2012 election cycle, according to sources, funding a new voter micro-targeting initiative, grassroots organizing efforts and television advertising campaigns.
In fact, as the annual Conservative Political Action Conference meets this week in Washington and conservatives assess the state of their movement, the Kochs’ network of non-profit groups, once centered around sleepy free-enterprise think tanks, seems to some to be emerging as a more ideological counterweight to the independent Republican political machine conceived by Bush-era GOP operatives Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie before the 2010 midterm elections.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/493...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157139 May 27, 2013
Yep, America has only 5% of the Earth population yet we use 25% of the energy and Libtards think that is .... BAD! Meanwhile we have 25% of the worlds lawyers and the Libtards think that is ..... good!?!
And they wonder why I call them Libtards?!?
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#157140 May 27, 2013
The Rich Get Richer, and They Have You to Thank, Says David Cay Johnston / Nov 19, 2010 /

The rich, thanks to government handouts, are getting richer at everyone else's expense. At least that's what David Cay Johnston claims in the book Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You with the Bill)

"This enormous growth of incomes at the top is not the result of market forces -- there's some market forces -- but it's largely the result of all these rules nobody knows about," he tells Dan and Aaron in this clip.
The problem starts with government subsidies, says Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. States are spending around $70 billion on government subsidies, he estimates. That doesn't include the hundreds of billions more doled out in federal subsidies.

"Is that capitalism?," he complains. "Go compete in a competitive arena. Don't go to Washington and say 'give me money' either by saying 'I don't have to pay taxes' or forcing other people to pay taxes that go to me. Go earn your money in the marketplace."

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157141 May 27, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Again you FAILED to explain these truths away SHEEPLE!
All of Congress has got no balls and are scared of being labeled as racist by SHEEPLE like you!
Obama's valid birth certificate resides in Kenya where Obama the usurper was born!
Why can't the SHEEPLE explain why Obama is the only person known to have a Hawaiian birth certificate with a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp?
Why can't the SHEEPLE explain why Obama's long form birth certificate does not have a raised visible embossed seal?
We all know why these are the FACTS!
Why can't you explain these truths away SHEEPLE?
We KNOW that the Obama Administration is tho most corrupt in US History.
We also know that Government in general is also the most corrupt that has ever existed because it stems from a usurper who has no respect for the Constitution or the law that it represents.
That is no earth shattering revelation SHEEPLE!
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Scandal? What Scandal?(Washington Post, 10/11/87).
Bush's Iran-Contra appointees are barely a story
Throughout the summer of 2001, the media were profligate with resources for the Chandra Levy story, excavating every corner of her and Rep. Gary Condit's past to unearth a prurient bounty of personal detail. That level of investigative vigor mighthave exposed far more vital information had it been applied to Bush's appointment of numerous Iran-Contra veterans to key posts.
But with a few admirable exceptions, news stories about Elliot Abrams, John Negroponte and Otto Reich have largely relied on past reporting and he-said, she-said soundbites by the usual supporters and critics, rather than in-depth investigations into their complicity in one of the bloodiest scandals of the past 20 years. And their guilt is based not on speculation or gossip, but on hard evidence that they aided torturers and death squads,circumvented Congress and the Constitution, and deceived the American people.
John Negroponte, as ambassador to Honduras from 1981-85, covered up human rights abuses by the CIA-trained Battalion 316. He is Bush's choice for U.S. ambassador to the U.N. and, as Extra! went to press, was expected to clear Senate confirmation hearings.
Elliott Abrams, an assistant secretary of state under Reagan, pleaded guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding evidence from Congress (i.e., lying) over his role in the Iran-Contra affair. Bush I pardoned him; Bush II has appointed him to the National SecurityCouncil as director of its office for democracy, human rights and international operations. The post requires no Senate approval.
Otto Reich's nomination as assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs, the top post for Latin America, was predicted to draw the most congressional fire. Reich was head of the now-defunct Office for Public Diplomacy (OPD), which the House Committee on Foreign Affairs censured for "prohibited, covert propaganda activities"
Please note the Libtard does not attempt to contests even one of your points, throws peanuts and .... changes the subject. Just like Obama!!!
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#157142 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Again you FAILED to explain these truths away SHEEPLE!
All of Congress has got no balls and are scared of being labeled as racist by SHEEPLE like you!
Obama's valid birth certificate resides in Kenya where Obama the usurper was born!
Why can't the SHEEPLE explain why Obama is the only person known to have a Hawaiian birth certificate with a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp?
Why can't the SHEEPLE explain why Obama's long form birth certificate does not have a raised visible embossed seal?
We all know why these are the FACTS!
Why can't you explain these truths away SHEEPLE?
We KNOW that the Obama Administration is tho most corrupt in US History.
We also know that Government in general is also the most corrupt that has ever existed because it stems from a usurper who has no respect for the Constitution or the law that it represents.
That is no earth shattering revelation SHEEPLE!
<quoted text>
Please note the Libtard does not attempt to contests even one of your points, throws peanuts and .... changes the subject. Just like Obama!!!
David Cay Johnston: "The Fine Print: How Big Companies Use 'Plain English' to Rob You Blind"

September 19, 2012 /
http://tinyurl.com/9qv48f8

In part two of our interview with David Cay Johnston, we discuss his new book, The Fine Print: How Big Companies Use 'Plain English' to Rob You Blind. Johnston writes, "No other modern country gives corporations the unfettered power found in America to gouge cus­tomers, shortchange workers, and erect barriers to fair play. A big reason is that so little of the news ... addresses the private, government-approved mechanisms by which price gouging is employed to redistribute income upward."

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/9/19/da...
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#157143 May 27, 2013
No Republican administration has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1957.
Dwight Eisenhower was last Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#157144 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Again you FAILED to explain these truths away SHEEPLE!
All of Congress has got no balls and are scared of being labeled as racist by SHEEPLE like you!
Obama's valid birth certificate resides in Kenya where Obama the usurper was born!
Why can't the SHEEPLE explain why Obama is the only person known to have a Hawaiian birth certificate with a one-of-a-kind error in the registrars stamp?
Why can't the SHEEPLE explain why Obama's long form birth certificate does not have a raised visible embossed seal?
We all know why these are the FACTS!
Why can't you explain these truths away SHEEPLE?
We KNOW that the Obama Administration is tho most corrupt in US History.
We also know that Government in general is also the most corrupt that has ever existed because it stems from a usurper who has no respect for the Constitution or the law that it represents.
That is no earth shattering revelation SHEEPLE!
<quoted text>
Please note the Libtard does not attempt to contests even one of your points, throws peanuts and .... changes the subject. Just like Obama!!!
Re: "Obama's valid birth certificate resides in Kenya where Obama the usurper was born!"

Answer: People who will believe that will believe anything.

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Re "most corrupt administration." Answer: In each of the last two years of the Bush Administration there was $200 billion in no-bid contracts.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157145 May 27, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
No Republican administration has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1957.
Dwight Eisenhower was last Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
Ah, but all budgets are passed by CONGRESS and the only thing any president can do is sign them into law.
Fact, Newt Gingrich rewrote Bill Clinton's budgets and BALANCED them and Bill Clintom signed them into law.
Bill Clinton also signed into law seven of the points of the Contract with America, to include Welfare Reform, into law and also signed the taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 into law.
But you, as a Libtard will only give Bill Clinton credit when it was Newt Gingrich who honchoed those bills through Congress!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157146 May 27, 2013
OMG, I can't believe Obama said it! He said it has been fifty years since the end of combat during the Korean War unlike most Libtards who actually think the Korean War actually ended in 1953!
Oh, do you know why North Korea signed that armistice? Because Ike had just taken over the White House and they knew he would not be a wimp like Truman was!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157147 May 27, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
No Republican administration has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1957.
Dwight Eisenhower was last Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
Ah, the ONLY Democrat who ever signed a balanced budget since 1958 was Bill Clinton. He signed four of Newt Gingrich's Balanced Budgets into law!!!
Let's see if you can debunk that?!?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157148 May 27, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re: "Obama's valid birth certificate resides in Kenya where Obama the usurper was born!"
Answer: People who will believe that will believe anything.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
Re "most corrupt administration." Answer: In each of the last two years of the Bush Administration there was $200 billion in no-bid contracts.
And how about Obama's real birth certificate? No one has debunked it!!!
http://alohareporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#157149 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And how about Obama's real birth certificate? No one has debunked it!!!
http://alohareporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
Actually, it was debunked by WND.

But, duh, it is MAINLY debunked by the fact that Obama was not born in Kenya.

When only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and the Kenyan government says that Obama and his mother were not two of them, and the Hawaii government (officials of both parties) says that he was born in Hawaii-----then the odds of Obama having been born in Kenya are miniscule.

Conversely, the odds that a "Kenyan birth certificate" shown by a CONVICTED FELON who claims that he got the birth certificate in Kenya but has refused to show proof that he had ever gone to Kenya is A FORGED BIRTH CERTIFICATE are---wait for it---GIGANTIC.
Nazrat

Jacksonville, FL

#157150 May 27, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
The Rich Get Richer, and They Have You to Thank, Says David Cay Johnston / Nov 19, 2010 /
The rich, thanks to government handouts, are getting richer at everyone else's expense. At least that's what David Cay Johnston claims in the book Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You with the Bill)
"This enormous growth of incomes at the top is not the result of market forces -- there's some market forces -- but it's largely the result of all these rules nobody knows about," he tells Dan and Aaron in this clip.
The problem starts with government subsidies, says Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. States are spending around $70 billion on government subsidies, he estimates. That doesn't include the hundreds of billions more doled out in federal subsidies.
"Is that capitalism?," he complains. "Go compete in a competitive arena. Don't go to Washington and say 'give me money' either by saying 'I don't have to pay taxes' or forcing other people to pay taxes that go to me. Go earn your money in the marketplace."
You do know that about 90% of all millionaires are self-made, don't you?
Yep, and government needs to stop doling out subsidies to lazy people who will not go to work or to alcohol and drug abusers. People on welfare should not be allowed to use alcohol or tobacco and if they get caught using illegal drugs, the are off the welfare system! And if they can not take care of their children, they should have their children taken away and they should be spayed or neutered just like a dog or cat.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#157151 May 27, 2013
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
Ellen1 Some people think the President Obama's birth was predestined
that his mother and father was meant to meet and give birth to Him and he was going to be president.
That is how some of the birthers see it. The N.W.O or the Illuminati was behind it all.
They are a bunch of mental unbalanced nut cases
Obama is not a Messiah, a God, or even a true patriot. He is anti religion,anti American and he never should have been elected to any position of importance in the United States. If he never won an election he probably would have followed in the footsteps of some of his mentors and bombed government buildings.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157152 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but all budgets are passed by CONGRESS and the only thing any president can do is sign them into law.
Fact, Newt Gingrich rewrote Bill Clinton's budgets and BALANCED them and Bill Clintom signed them into law.
Bill Clinton also signed into law seven of the points of the Contract with America, to include Welfare Reform, into law and also signed the taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 into law.
But you, as a Libtard will only give Bill Clinton credit when it was Newt Gingrich who honchoed those bills through Congress!!!
Let's see now. Obama makes deficits. Well, in his first two years, that was the fault of the majority Dem congress and Obama.

Then, Repubs got a hold of the House. Obama's deficits became...Obama's fault

Before that, Clinton made surpluses. Guess what, it was the Repub majority in Congress and Newt who made that possible. Clinton had zich to do with that.

Eisenhower made 2 surpluses. HIS doing. Eisenhower had 6 deficits. Damn Dem congress.

Bush(es), father and son, had 12 out of 12 deficits. Guess whose fault THAT was? Damn congress, nothing to do with the Bush clan.

And so it goes with Rogue. There are no losers for his side, only winners.

I have to laugh, laugh uncontrollably, when he writes about Newt's surplus budgets. There were surpluses because both sides compromised, with Clinton probably compromising a tad too much.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157153 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
OMG, I can't believe Obama said it! He said it has been fifty years since the end of combat during the Korean War unlike most Libtards who actually think the Korean War actually ended in 1953!
Oh, do you know why North Korea signed that armistice? Because Ike had just taken over the White House and they knew he would not be a wimp like Truman was!!!
Truman, who, right or wrong, dropped two A-bombs on Japan, fired the ever-popular McArthur, was a wimp? The daring and brilliant landing at Inchon that changed the course of the war by McArthur was approved by Truman who would've had to pay a terrible price, like Obama's Osama bin Laden operation, had it failed. Eisenhower had zilch to do with the Korean armistice, he had just arrived. Inchon did it.

As a footnote, Eisenhower, great tactician, consensus builder, formidable general, had no personal combat experience, Rogue. Eisenhower was first and foremost a man of peace, which is as it should be for any great military leader, as this is the underpinning principle, namely, peace, for which he fights.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#157154 May 27, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Everything I post is factual and nobody can disprove me.
You are only a parrot saying whatever Fox News, Rush, and Glen Beck tell you.
You still believe the corporate mainstream media is liberal and Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya.
LOL
Barack Hussein Obama is a anti-American, Kenyan-American who as a youth lived in Indonesia as a Muslim. It is not against the law to be a Muslim in the United States,it is however unpatriotic to lie about your religious beliefs. It is against the law to take an oath of office to defend the Constitution while you are trying to destroy it. Every since Obama has been occupying The White House he has been trying to destroy and divide our county. The past five years have been full of scandal and deceit. Why hasn't Obama been impeached by now?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157155 May 27, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that about 90% of all millionaires are self-made, don't you?
Yep, and government needs to stop doling out subsidies to lazy people who will not go to work or to alcohol and drug abusers. People on welfare should not be allowed to use alcohol or tobacco and if they get caught using illegal drugs, the are off the welfare system! And if they can not take care of their children, they should have their children taken away and they should be spayed or neutered just like a dog or cat.
Good thing you changed moniker in order to camouflage the above incredibly stupid post, Rogue. Everything, and I mean everything about it is wrong, I wouldn't even know where to start it is so bad.
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#157156 May 27, 2013
numb in the head nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
Ellen1 the SHEEPLE think pResident Obama's birth was predestined
that his mother and father was meant to meet and give birth to Him and he was going to be president.
FIFY!
Now it is the truth!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157157 May 27, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is not a Messiah, a God, or even a true patriot. He is anti religion,anti American and he never should have been elected to any position of importance in the United States. If he never won an election he probably would have followed in the footsteps of some of his mentors and bombed government buildings.
When you know you are about to type outlandishly stupid messages such as the above, you should emulate Rogue and do it under another moniker. Frankly, Frank, you are hopeless.

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