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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157178 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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What rank was Ike in 1933 when FDR became president? He was a major and in 1936 was promoted to Ltc and was promoted to BG in 1941.
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Again, you post gibberish which has nothing to do with the subject.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#157179 May 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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But you might try and change your name if you want to be taken seriously or not.
Do you know what Nebka or shal i say who?

Nebka is the birth name of an Ancient Egyptian king (pharaoh) who ruled during the 3rd dynasty of the Old Kingdom. He is thought to be identical with the Hellenized name form Necherophes (by Manetho). Nebka is one of the most disputed kings of the Old Kingdom, since his name is handed down as cartouche name only, but is preserved always in the same typographical way. And because the sources for the name “Nebka” are that numerous, this ruler is seen as a historically important figure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebka

Since: May 10

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#157181 May 28, 2013
nebka wrote:
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Do you know what Nebka or shal i say who?
Nebka is the birth name of an Ancient Egyptian king (pharaoh) who ruled during the 3rd dynasty of the Old Kingdom. He is thought to be identical with the Hellenized name form Necherophes (by Manetho). Nebka is one of the most disputed kings of the Old Kingdom, since his name is handed down as cartouche name only, but is preserved always in the same typographical way. And because the sources for the name “Nebka” are that numerous, this ruler is seen as a historically important figure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebka
No I didn't know and I will probably forget all about him soon. Wow, Wiki devoted a whole half page to him.

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#157182 May 28, 2013
Adrian Peterson not a believer in same-sex marriage
Posted by Mike Florio on May 27, 2013, 9:31 PM EDT

When we first saw the comments of Vikings running back Adrian Peterson on the issue of same-sex marriage, the decision was made to mention the situation in the one-liners, with no full-blown post.

Since then, however, the issue has popped up in plenty of places, and it makes sense on the day that honors those who fought for our freedoms to point to an issue the demonstrates in many ways the things we can do as Americans.

When Peterson says in a radio interview that he’s “not with” same-sex marriage, he exercises his right to say whatever he wants. And those who choose to disagree with Peterson are exercising the same rights. Meanwhile, those who are fighting for and against the legalization of same-sex marriage are exercise their rights to participate in the political process.

These rights all flow from the documents that gave rise to our nation, rights secured and then preserved by the men and women who fought and died to allow us to disagree on the issue of same-sex marriage and any other issue, from important to trivial and all points in between.

So feel free to call me an idiot in the comments if you disagree with this or anything else I’ve said today. You have the right to do it. And, of course, I have the right to delete the comment if it goes too far.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/...
truman

Boise, ID

#157183 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, but all budgets are passed by CONGRESS and the only thing any president can do is sign them into law.
Fact, Newt Gingrich rewrote Bill Clinton's budgets and BALANCED them and Bill Clintom signed them into law.
Bill Clinton also signed into law seven of the points of the Contract with America, to include Welfare Reform, into law and also signed the taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 into law.
But you, as a Libtard will only give Bill Clinton credit when it was Newt Gingrich who honchoed those bills through Congress!!!
In the through the looking glass world of a true Tea Bagger you retreat into Denial for any responsbiilty when it comes to the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Economic Meltown we were left with after George W.
Yet the Surplus Clinton left us with you try and claim credit for Republicans...in spite of the sheer volume of useless verbiage you load onto this thread Rogue you have no credibilty because frankly your Mindless Partisanship has made you intellectualy dishonest.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157184 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but all budgets are passed by CONGRESS and the only thing any president can do is sign them into law.
Fact, Newt Gingrich rewrote Bill Clinton's budgets and BALANCED them and Bill Clintom signed them into law.
Bill Clinton also signed into law seven of the points of the Contract with America, to include Welfare Reform, into law and also signed the taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 into law.
But you, as a Libtard will only give Bill Clinton credit when it was Newt Gingrich who honchoed those bills through Congress!!!
truman wrote:
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In the through the looking glass world of a true Tea Bagger you retreat into Denial for any responsbiilty when it comes to the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Economic Meltown we were left with after George W.
Yet the Surplus Clinton left us with you try and claim credit for Republicans...in spite of the sheer volume of useless verbiage you load onto this thread Rogue you have no credibilty because frankly your Mindless Partisanship has made you intellectualy dishonest.
And you can not even rebut one of my points. How sad a troll you are.
Oh, did not Obama say he would get us out of Afghanistan within ONE year? I would have just as soon as UBL was killed or captured! And I have never agree with Bush on rebuilding their economies or reforming their government. Muslims will never think like we do!
And as far as GITMO, all the detainees should be tried according to the Geneva Accords as Illegal Combatants and then executed!!! If we had, we would have closed GITMO six years ago.

Since: May 10

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#157185 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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What rank was Ike in 1933 when FDR became president? He was a major and in 1936 was promoted to Ltc and was promoted to BG in 1941.
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Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Again, you post gibberish which has nothing to do with the subject.
My point being that Ike advanced from Captain to a four-star general without commanding a brigade (colonel) or division (two-star gen.) or a corps (three-star gen.) and he did this all under FDR!!!
Again, ALL generals are appointed by the PRESIDENT (FDR)!

Since: May 10

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#157186 May 28, 2013
One of the smartest move Bush-41 did was making Gen. Colon Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff which is nothing more than an advisory job. And he chose Gen. Schwarzkopf as his combat field commander. If Powell had been the field commander I seriously doubt the Persian Gulf War would have turned out as well as it did.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157187 May 28, 2013
The Gordian Knot is a legend of Phrygian Gordium associated with Alexander the Great. It is often used as a metaphor for an intractable problem (disentangling an "impossible" knot) solved easily by cheating or "thinking outside the box" ("cutting the Gordian knot"):

"Turn him to any cause of policy,
The Gordian Knot of it he will unloose,
Familiar as his garter" (Shakespeare, Henry V, Act 1 Scene 1. 45–47)

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157188 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
What rank was Ike in 1933 when FDR became president? He was a major and in 1936 was promoted to Ltc and was promoted to BG in 1941.
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
My point being that Ike advanced from Captain to a four-star general without commanding a brigade (colonel) or division (two-star gen.) or a corps (three-star gen.) and he did this all under FDR!!!
Again, ALL generals are appointed by the PRESIDENT (FDR)!
Thereby proving that you need not go to war to exercise the duties of a 4-star general, as proven by Eisenhower. Good if you have, like McArthur, but not essential.

And, I repeat, your reply was not relevant. At all.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157189 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
One of the smartest move Bush-41 did was making Gen. Colon Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff which is nothing more than an advisory job. And he chose Gen. Schwarzkopf as his combat field commander. If Powell had been the field commander I seriously doubt the Persian Gulf War would have turned out as well as it did.
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you know that? Did you even read Gen. Schwarzkopf's book on the Gulf war? How Powell's support in so many areas crucial to the operation, including working with the Saudis' seemingly unreasonable conditions placed on American and allied troops?

And what is this remark?..."One of the smartest move Bush-41 did was making Gen. Colon Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff which is nothing more than an advisory job". One would think you were intimately linked to the Pentagon and White House chain of command. Can you give a few examples...no, never mind, just ONE example to confirm what you wrote about "advisory". Remember, Rogue, the Joint chief of staff and the president do not decide if a patrol should go out to scout the enemy. That's decided by a sergeant or lieutenant, as it should be.
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157190 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
One of the smartest move Bush-41 did was making Gen. Colon Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff which is nothing more than an advisory job. And he chose Gen. Schwarzkopf as his combat field commander. If Powell had been the field commander I seriously doubt the Persian Gulf War would have turned out as well as it did.
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6


Cheney 1994: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire C-SPAN
http://tinyurl.com/3d6x5b
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#157191 May 28, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Funny, prior to 1866 the various states made the citizens of the USA, no one lost their citizenship with the change of power from the various states to the US Government, it was just streamlined by the 14th amendment.
Insane. No one could have lost their citizenship due to passage of the 14th Amendment prior to the 14th Amendment?

Nonsense: "prior to 1866 ... no one lost their citizenship with the change of power ..."

Dufus Dale does not understand that the 14th Amendment SUPERSEDED previous law and if a person had been born in the US but beyond the jurisdiction of the US that person would not be a citizen, even if that person would have been considered a US citizen by a state prior to passage of the 14th Amendment"

"[F]or, if the contention of counsel for the government be correct, it will inevitably result that thousands of persons of both sexes who have been heretofore considered as citizens of the United States, and have always been treated as such, will be, to all intents and purposes, denationalized and remanded to a state of alienage.
In re Wong Kim Ark, 71 Fed. Rep. 382 (N.D. Cal. 1896).

"To hold that the fourteenth amendment of the constitution excludes from citizenship the children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of other countries, would be to deny citizenship to thousands of persons of English, Scotch, Irish, German, or other European parentage, who have always been considered and treated as citizens of the United States."

Sorry Dufus Dale, Play Law does not count.
wojar wrote:
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Funny how no one ever noticed the new Play Law rules that made thousands of people, previously thought to be citizens in 1865, aliens.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#157193 May 28, 2013
Sorry I forgot to include the citation.

"To hold that the fourteenth amendment of the constitution excludes from citizenship the children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of other countries, would be to deny citizenship to thousands of persons of English, Scotch, Irish, German, or other European parentage, who have always been considered and treated as citizens of the United States." US v Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 694 (1898).
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157194 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Everyone knows Ike was a closet Democrat. Truman offered to step aside if Ike ran as a Democrat, but he declined.
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So your admitting that one of the greatest Generals of WWII is a Democrat?

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Bob Dole is right. But, Republicans can’t follow his advice.

May 28, 2013

During an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” the former Senate Majority Leader gave his fellow Republicans a piece of advice:“I think they ought to put a sign on the National Committee doors that says closed for repairs until New Year’s Day next year and spend that time going over ideas and positive agenda.”

Ask any Republican and they probably agree with Dole. The party suffered two resounding defeats in the 2008 and 2012 presidential races, and gains made in the 2010 midterms look like the exception rather than the rule. The party continues to feud openly in the Senate over its direction.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157195 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but all budgets are passed by CONGRESS and the only thing any president can do is sign them into law.
Fact, Newt Gingrich rewrote Bill Clinton's budgets and BALANCED them and Bill Clintom signed them into law.
Bill Clinton also signed into law seven of the points of the Contract with America, to include Welfare Reform, into law and also signed the taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 into law.
But you, as a Libtard will only give Bill Clinton credit when it was Newt Gingrich who honchoed those bills through Congress!!!
For 6 out of 8 years Bush/Cheney had a Republican House and Senate which increased the size of government with the greatest deficits in history.

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Dole:'I doubt' I could make it in today's GOP

5/26/13 / http://tinyurl.com/p4sc35j

Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole says he doesn't believe he could make it in the modern Republican Party.

"I doubt it," he said in an interview aired on "Fox News Sunday" when asked if his generation of Republican leaders could make it in today's GOP. "Reagan couldn't have made it. Certainly, Nixon couldn't have made it, cause he had ideas. We might've made it, but I doubt it."

Dole, a wounded World War II veteran from Kansas and icon of the party, said he believes it needs to rethink the direction it's heading in.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#157196 May 28, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
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So your admitting that one of the greatest Generals of WWII is a Democrat?
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Bob Dole is right. But, Republicans can’t follow his advice.
May 28, 2013
During an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” the former Senate Majority Leader gave his fellow Republicans a piece of advice:“I think they ought to put a sign on the National Committee doors that says closed for repairs until New Year’s Day next year and spend that time going over ideas and positive agenda.”
Ask any Republican and they probably agree with Dole. The party suffered two resounding defeats in the 2008 and 2012 presidential races, and gains made in the 2010 midterms look like the exception rather than the rule. The party continues to feud openly in the Senate over its direction.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...
Rogue : "Whatever, but one thing for sure, it's all Obama's fault".

Rogue's predictions for today's DJIA :

1. DJIA tanks. Obama's fault
2. DJIA gains. Rep congress's doing. Oh, and Newt's budget LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157197 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, the ONLY Democrat who ever signed a balanced budget since 1958 was Bill Clinton. He signed four of Newt Gingrich's Balanced Budgets into law!!!
Let's see if you can debunk that?!?
You live in a corporate Republican bubble my friend.

Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton opened the floodgates to the Bush/Cheney 2008 financial meltdown.

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Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 2
http://tinyurl.com/ccs348

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999-Part 1
http://tinyurl.com/dfnkuu

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157198 May 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, the ONLY Democrat who ever signed a balanced budget since 1958 was Bill Clinton. He signed four of Newt Gingrich's Balanced Budgets into law!!!
Let's see if you can debunk that?!?
I did not realize you liked Clinton so much.

I guess you will be voting for Hillary in 2016 instead of Jeb Bush.

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Greenspan Concedes He `Found a Flaw' in His Free-Market Ideology
Oct. 23 (Bloomberg)-- Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, under a grilling from lawmakers at a congressional hearing today, conceded a flaw in his free-market ideology that contributed to a ``once-in-a-century credit tsunami.''
``Yes, I found a flaw,'' Greenspan said in response to questions from to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.``That is precisely the reason I was shocked because I'd been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.'' http://tinyurl.com/5ea9ng
Greenspan said he was ``partially'' wrong in his opposition in recent years to the regulation of derivatives. He said in a May 2005 speech that ``private regulation generally has proved far better at constraining excessive risk-taking than has government regulation.''
Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, a California Democrat, said Greenspan had ``the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis.''
``You were advised to do so by many others,'' he told Greenspan.``And now our whole economy is paying the price.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#157199 May 28, 2013
Nazrat wrote:
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You do know that about 90% of all millionaires are self-made, don't you?
Yep, and government needs to stop doling out subsidies to lazy people who will not go to work or to alcohol and drug abusers. People on welfare should not be allowed to use alcohol or tobacco and if they get caught using illegal drugs, the are off the welfare system! And if they can not take care of their children, they should have their children taken away and they should be spayed or neutered just like a dog or cat.
Richard B. Cheney became a Multi-Millionaire going from Government to Halliburton and back to government.

How do you think Cheney became CEO of Halliburton?

It was payback for the Billions of taxpayer dollars for War.

Republicans love government for their friends.

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To all Republicans put your name in the blanks

I,_________ as a conservative do hereby pledge I will continue my condemnations of the poor in the Charles Dickens story, "A Christmas Carol", because I know Bob Cratchit's family were lazy deadbeats who could pay for their own health care and gotten help for their son, Tiny Tim, if they wanted to. I believe Tiny Tim should be prevented from getting health care and die, because he is poor.

I,_______, as a conservative believe in individual rights for CEOs and business owners like Ebenezer Scrooge, but not for individual rights to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness for those who are poor, downtrodden or oppressed. Also, because I believe the poor in the Bible were deadbeats, I will continue to condemn Jesus because he was an evil socialist because he healed the sick for free, he fed the hungry for free and he lifted the spirits of the downtrodden for free. I also condemn the Good Samaritan for not charging to help that poor, beaten man who was left for dead on the side of a lonely road. I believe that the priest and the temple assistant who first found the beaten man and left him for dead without helping him did the right thing and that the Good Samaritan was an evil socialist, because not only did the Good Samaritan help the beaten man, he even gave him money so he could feed and cloth himself.

I,________, as a conservative further condemn Jesus for always attacking the rich and praising the poor, because I know CEOs and the wealthy are the true sons of god because, after all, look at how much god has rewarded them. I believe those on Wall Street deserve to make as much money as possible by using schemes and scams, like the guy who made 3 billion in 2008 alone. As a conservative I believe it is right that a person who makes 3 billion behind a computer producing nothing for his fellow man or society. I believe that Wall Street should be paid 86,000 times more than hard working teachers, firefighters, police officers and nurses, all of whom actually contribute to society and help their fellow man.

I,_________ as a conservative who always trusts the government to start wars, trusts government to bomb people, trusts government to spy on people, trusts government to incarcerate people without charges, trusts government to torture people, trusts government to arrest people without warrants and trusts government to use secret wiretaps on people, do hereby pledge to continue to distrust government to help heal sick and dying Americans. I fear government intrusion into my life, but I cheer on corporate intrusions on my privacy, my livelihood, and my life. I fear any government attempt to heal people, yet trust government to kill, maim, torture, arrest, incarcerate and execute people.

I,_______, as a conservative, make these pledges in the name of the 'god of unbridled, unregulated capitalism' and in the names of its disciples, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. Amen and amen.

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